I love the data behind your observations. Objective with the subjective. Thanks for the consistent quality reviews.
@dlloyd63003 ай бұрын
I love you adding the EQ walkthrough! This should be on all speaker reviews where applicable!!!
@leeh47223 ай бұрын
Yes that’s a great idea…
@mattholland3153 ай бұрын
You do have to be careful as adjusting the on-axis might not result in the idea estimated room response. It depends on your room and your positioning, but EQ with some caution.
@User_not_found_4033 ай бұрын
Erin - appreciate you breaking down your definitions and the added diagrams. Really helps clarify, on access, tow-in, distance from wall. Many other reviews make too many assumptions :)
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@fonkenful3 ай бұрын
As well as having entirely different ideas of what those terms represent.
@User_not_found_4033 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Also appreciate the pragmatism. If people are buying bookshelf speakers, typically space is a constraint, otherwise we could opt for towers. So the measurements and space from wall tips really help, especially when in a non ideal listening space.
@johnvolanski7879Ай бұрын
I bought a pair of these DB63 speakers in September 2024 after hearing them at the THE Show. I have them in my living room, being driven by a Proton AA-1150 power amplifier (which can deliver up to 400WRMS/ch on dynamic peaks, but 50WRMS/ch normally). My living room is huge- about 40' wide with a cathedral ceiling. I have the Elac speakers paired with a Velodyne F-1200 servo subwoofer to handle the bottom of the bottom octave. In short, this system sounds ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL for this price point! The sound certainly is dependent on the source material, but for some of the music I've done in my own studio and played back at 24bit/48kHz, the soundstage image is no kidding the full 40' wide by 10' high with excellent depth. It is really hard to believe that the sound I'm hearing is coming out of those little bookshelf speakers. When people come over for a demo, I tell them to close their eyes and listen, because the visual of what they are seeing in front of them doesn't at all match the audio soundstage they are hearing. Interestingly, the Proton amp never goes into Dynamic Power on Demand mode even when I have these cranked (which means it is putting out 50WRMS/ch or less). I can HIGHLY recommend these Elac speakers for their outstanding price/performance ratio. I am an Electrical Engineer and an Audio Engineer.
@flash49733 ай бұрын
As always, amazing video. Great info straight to the point. Thank you for this man you are the only channel providing such high quality, non biased information. Never stop bro.
@andrewforsythe72403 ай бұрын
I have the B6.2's, the tweeter was always holding that speaker back. Glad they changed the tweeter. My B6.2's are back in the box in mint condition. Now rocking Klipsch. Great review thanks.
@serjturischev955710 күн бұрын
holding back? but it has way more clear and transparent response, how can it be holded back?
@maxvargas10072 ай бұрын
which one is a better buy Debut 3 DB63 or the DBR62?
@DragonWhisper1418 күн бұрын
He said if you have the 62 and you have extra money, you should get the 63. You can probably sell the 62 for more than the cost of the 63. 62 looks better imo but they may drop the price soon.
@pylgrin12 күн бұрын
He say the opposite
@jamesquinn27595 күн бұрын
@@DragonWhisper14 dbr62 is not the same as the db62
@jamyv78264 күн бұрын
2 months and still no answer 😢 Debut 63 or debut reference 62?
@deankeaton1629 күн бұрын
Man, the job you do and advice you provide is invaluable. You remind me of one or two best university professors I ever had. Deep knowledge transferred simply and effortlessly. Absolute top of the game. Respect and best wishes!
@ErinsAudioCorner9 күн бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@lukeselker51753 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Erin!
@1patula3 ай бұрын
First of all, man you know your stuff!! It’s a level of knowledge and confidence that I relate to but in a different domain. But when I listen to you I can feel that you like it, and that you think about all this a lot. And that is great, and that is so precious for me as someone who wants professional review! Well done sir!
@DiyMan-g3i3 ай бұрын
How would you compare these to the DBR62.
@teamstevensonGenEric3 ай бұрын
Have owned these speakers for 3 weeks now and feel they are just starting to get broken in. Very happy with them great starter set to get into the brand motivating to look at ELAC's next level speakers.
@419jeremy3 ай бұрын
Wow great review. They way you can show what you’re hearing by implementing the graphics helps explain things so well. Nicely done sir. Subscribed
@fwiler3 ай бұрын
I bought a pair along with the center. I did do an A1 evo audyssey calibration, which brought them into a very flat response and really enjoying these. Personally, I can't hear a 1-2db difference like you show in your in-room responses. In fact I've never seen any speaker not have 1-2db dips or peaks. I definitely don't hear hallow or loss of detail and that was comparing to Klipsch RP-150, and SVS ultra evolution nano's. Thanks for your review.
@1337sim13 ай бұрын
Great review ! Thank you for providing the EQ as most would set these up with a WiiM amp or another value oriented product 👍
@user-a33kixd2wq413 ай бұрын
wiim amp is really a game changer. Unfortunately, it's still quite expensive in the used market.😂
@1337sim13 ай бұрын
@@user-a33kixd2wq41 it was just on sale in my country. Also, a new "pro" version should come out. I expect sales coming up to liquidate the stock. Hope this helps 🙂
@Karto863 ай бұрын
Wiim streamers also have peq :)
@user-a33kixd2wq413 ай бұрын
@@Karto86 Wiim Pro + Steoro Amp (Fosi/Ayima) cost the same as Wiim Amp, but no Arc input and no sub-out. I think Wiim Amp is a better choice.
@DearSX3 ай бұрын
How can you eq gain setting on wiim amp? I see some eq for speakers say something like -2db gain before eq
@psyphonyxaudio3 ай бұрын
We are all better off for having your analysis in this hobby. Thank you.
@timomy83 ай бұрын
Yep as already mentioned extra points for the eq recommendations will help many who may not have the ability to test.
@shipsahoy17933 ай бұрын
👍Heyy, thanks for the review Erin.. It still seems to me that the DBR 62 reference is a better bang for the buck for a few more (bucks). Cheers, y'all ! 😉
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
I agree.
@pkdude53343 ай бұрын
I have the dbr62 and it was one of the best purchases I've ever made. After trying the Klipsch rm600 and triangle bro03, I finally tried the dbr62 and couldn't be happier.
@x-techgaming3 ай бұрын
Or DF63! 3 woofers instead of 1, for only +$100!
@25-82 ай бұрын
I have the RPM600 and I'm debating between the triangles and the Elac DBR62's.. why did you settle on those? @@pkdude5334
@serjturischev955710 күн бұрын
@@pkdude5334 dont you think that dbr62 sounds like more layed back, dark and dull in comparison of triangle br03 or klipsch 600?
@dereky30953 ай бұрын
To be honest, I have a hard time with Klipsch the Fives with the piercing hurt on my ears. Then I understand I will never enjoy the bright speakers for rest of my life. I switched ELAC Debut 3.0 today and couldn’t be happier. The mid range is so impressive, and my ear doesn’t hurt on the highs. Anyone hesitated if you see this video, I will give you my honest feedback based on my experience. Science matters, your actual hearing matters too.
@crBudgetWatches3 ай бұрын
I am upgrading from the Edifier 1280DB to these , still hunting for an amp , can't wait to get them!!!!
@anxiousappliance19 күн бұрын
I hear you. There's bright and then there is bright. I feel the same way about B&W - like a dentist drill on my molars. But SVS, which is considered "energetic" is fine and entertaining. These boxes are interesting.
@AbsoluteFidelity3 ай бұрын
Measurements dont look too bad... Its ok for its price range. I can see why some people like it from that on axis and EIR graph, its inoffensive and will in no way sound fatiguing. MD is rather high at a sensitive region though, so it will sound shouty when cranked up.
@bryede3 ай бұрын
13:50 Often you'll get surround resonances off the woofer too which typically looks like a dip followed by a peak in the lower midrange. This happens when the rubber surround starts to flap out of phase with the cone.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Usually these are closer to 1kHz on a 6.5” driver (wavelength of effective radius).
@Cringing_Cranium2 ай бұрын
Q350 vs db63?
@jacobsimm96093 ай бұрын
yet another stellar review amen
@corumuk673 ай бұрын
My Dynaudio Emit M10's are 6 inches away from the back wall! Not ideal but the room isn't wide enough for any more. Sometimes practicalities have to outweigh other considerations. They still sound great to me, although I don't play them that loud.
@UnitedRedDevil133 ай бұрын
I have rp600m bookshelves for home theater use in 5.1.4 using Dirac. What’s the upgrade route from here ? 😂
@austinobrien60092 ай бұрын
Are these good value for a Home Theater Setup?
@stormtrooper94043 ай бұрын
I know a reviewer who is neck deep with Elac and promoting them waayyy too hard... I already know who is cursing now 😂 cheapsomethingsell or similar 😂 Thanks Erin for being objective!
@AndrewB233 ай бұрын
I used to enjoy his stuff until he got a taste of the high end and even started promoting power cables 😂
@swllz3 ай бұрын
that cheapsomethingsell only provide some entertainment value if some one finds his video has entertainment value for some viewer's.
@4thewinir3443 ай бұрын
He’s the only salesman (I mean reviewer) I’ve actually unsubscribed from due to his blatant profiteering. I enjoyed his early videos as he really sold the ‘ I’m salt of the earth’ schtick. Then out came the Mcintosh gear and sponsored trips to Europe by his supplier friends.
@AbsoluteFidelity3 ай бұрын
@@stormtrooper9404 Mr SSCS5 himself.
@fonkenful3 ай бұрын
@@4thewinir344Some folks have a word for those who so clearly sell their integrity like that.
@trevorbartram54733 ай бұрын
Hi Erin, I purchased the 62 based on your excellent review. At $225/pair they were a bargain. I do not hear sibilance? The 52 has boosted bass & my fear was the 63 would go the same way but no. The 62 & 63 have the same 750Hz resonance. The 62 xover has a notch filter across the midbass driver to tame the resonance. It is only partially successful. Perhaps a peak is better than a dip, considering the shelf that precedes it? Danny's 62 YT video shows stored energy at 750Hz, Danny did not identify the source, midbass driver or cabinet?
@SirWaddlesworth3 ай бұрын
You may have answered this before, but I might have missed it and I'm kind of curious but Why do resonances show up in the impedance graph? I thought impedance was more about how hard the speaker is to drive rather than the sound it produces.
@socksgratecheese3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why the comment section has been so down on this speaker. It's an Interesting speaker. The looks are a definite upgrade from the 6.2. Distortion, compression, multitone, and on-axis linearity are good for its class. In room response is good. However, the resonance at 650hz and the directivity at 2 and 5 khz aren't well controlled. This seems like a good contender if your budget is fixed below $500, but Elac, Revel, Wharfdale, and KEF's step-up options are very compelling and imo very much worth the investment.
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
The low mid dip is a real problem for many types of music. As are the upper frequency issue. KEF q150 or even q350 can be had for less and don’t have the problems of these and image wonderfully. Or The Polk es series and at this price the Polk r1 seem better performing overall, though with issues, and also image well.
@socksgratecheese3 ай бұрын
@@ManFromLaBamba the Q150 is discontinued and discounted to ~350/pr and has great directivity but elevated treble and less output capability. The discontinued Q350 retails for 800/pr and can be had new at a discount for ~50 percent more than this speaker. For sure, though, you can compare any speaker to any other speaker.
@AndrewB233 ай бұрын
@@socksgratecheese the q150/350 aren't discontinued they're still available on all audio sites and kef has nothing about it being discontinued on theirs, those are the actual prices they just raise the prices to make it seem like a deal the 90% of the time
@socksgratecheese3 ай бұрын
@@AndrewB23 The q150/350 have been replaced by the Q1 Meta and Q3 Meta, as you can see yourself on their website.
@omeee3 ай бұрын
it looks like it is just a worse DBR62 at a similar price.
@hgamba463 ай бұрын
Which model sounds better between the ELAC debut 3 or the Elac Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52? thank you
@seanb33033 ай бұрын
In most rooms putting a bookshelf speaker 3 feet from the wall will maximize the SBIR dip…which is above subwoofer crossover and is difficult to treat with bass traps.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Sure. But that’s not my typical audience (I’ve polled them). It’s good to have other options. 👍
@seanb33033 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner acousticians can’t really explain why pulling speakers from the front wall creates the illusion of depth. Do you have any theories?
@authenticNL23 ай бұрын
I'm no acoustician but I'll try. Soundstage depth, firstly, is arguable between listeners' setups. Some people say it's fake, or that it is real. I think it has to with the speakers frequency response/directivity, size of the room, distance of the back wall to listener and speaker, and listener's distance from the speakers. The further the speaker is from the back wall, the more dispersed the sound will be. The "wider" dispersion will make the original sound quieter. Additionally, the greater distance between the speaker and backwall will delay first and second order rear reflections. As we know, early side reflections can ruin soundstage width, so it's safe to assume that soundstage depth will also be affected. The listening position also needs to be away from the rear wall as well to delay reflections. Directivity applies to reflections in order to keep the speaker's soundstage and imaging accurate. Frequency response in my experience may matter. Bloaty bass can mask frequencies used for sound localization. This is why some speakers need to be moved away from boundaries to achieve soundstage depth. But by pulling out the speakers far into the room and removing low-end may help unmask localization cues. I think it's bad speaker design in some cases such as bass is masking sound, tweeter distortion, bad crossover design, or unsmooth frequency response. The information I used here is not 100% objective. It is from my own listening experience. I do suggest listening to speakers nearfield at low volume to decrease the effect of room reflections, and with your eyes closed. I achieved a very odd effect of soundstage width, and a little depth from crappy laptop speakers with EQ to remove the bass bloat. If you have any questions, I'd love to try to answer because I'm bored. Cheers. @seanb3303
@seanb33033 ай бұрын
@@authenticNL2 thanks for sharing. Magnepans generate amazing depth perception as dipoles do…so i think we can agree that it’s the loading of the dipole that creates an effect or coloration. If we wall mount the speaker like a high end studio does, recordings that don’t have depth spatial cues will sound flat and that sucks…but my guess is they can still have depth if it’s in the recording…which kind of gets back to the listening to your hi-fi vs listening to a facsimile of a recording debate…and I’m going to say that pulling your speakers 3 feet into the room to add extra depth is a very hi-fi thing to do as is ignoring SBIR consequences 😉
@holbobb67773 ай бұрын
Hey Erin. I noticed you did speaker eq based upon the on axis response. I think I noticed in the past you did speaker eq based upon the in room response. Can I ask what changed your mind? I'm interested because I do speaker eq on my Revel M106 - and there is a peak around 4.5 - 5k in the on axis response which doesn't show when the in room response is calculated.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
The eq suggestions translate to all axes due to the pretty good directivity in those regions (except the 2-3kHz area). The suggestions therefore translate to the EIR. Hope that helps.
@regulartxdude78133 ай бұрын
Loved the review! Are you planning to review any of the higher priced Elac offerings like the Vela VBS404.2 GB that retails for $3,499?
@flagshipdog92993 ай бұрын
Would you consider the Polk XT20 better than these?
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Hmmm. I’d need to go back and evaluate but there’s a lot of positives for the Polk, for sure.
@rags0153 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner The Elac DB63’s have much better build quality than the Polk XT20. Also the Elacs have magnetic grilles! So a win win all round!
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh3 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCornerthat would make for a nice comparison. They both seem very equable.
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
Isn’t the Polk es20 or even r1 (often on sale for $400-500) a better comparison?
@DearSX3 ай бұрын
Loving the EQ info
@romboom24053 ай бұрын
I have just discovered your channel ! Thank you so much for existing, I am really impressed by your test rig and the complete experimental protocole you are running through with each speaker you are testing ! I have also watched your complete playlist about the measurements understandings. Very well done ! I was just wondering you are planning to make one on impulse response (I may have missed it) ? Just to explain how difficult it is to find a trade off between ported and sealed speakers for low bass qualitative response. Again thanks for this work and for making your data and script accessible ! A home-theater enthusiast from France ;)
@tomasmikeskaАй бұрын
excellent review and EQ tips, thank you
@cschwacofer3 ай бұрын
Infinity used the same style/type of tweeter wave guide.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Many have. It’s an interesting one.
@cschwacofer3 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner make sure you get this posted to r/budgetaudiophile
@tomschwiehn3 ай бұрын
Great review! Thank you!
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@gregorymorrill75583 ай бұрын
These look very good for the retail price and certainly the price will be discounted further for the holiday's. Nice job here. Some flaws but no deal breakers IMHO.
@DiyMan-g3i3 ай бұрын
So after all that testing and interpretation of the results. What did they sound like? I know its in the ears of the beholder and other factors....but did you like them? Would be nice to know.
@JLudwig06Ай бұрын
How close to the wall would you say is the limit? Reason i ask is im shopping for my next speakers. Would be a 5.1.4 system and im searching for atmos and rear surrrounds to match. Front would be towers. My rear surrounds need to basically sit on a shelf against the wall.
@MargaQuarki3 ай бұрын
Can anyone compare the Elac DB63 with Heco Aurora 300?
@MrWslindsay3 ай бұрын
I have the Heco 300's. I love them. I have the Elac db53's, the smaller brother of these new Elacs. The 53's are pretty darn good. But the Heco's are another level above IMO. I did have the Heco 200's but returned them. The 200's only reproduced about 70 percent of what the 300's could do. I may try these db63's at some point. That would be a head to head you're looking for but I thought I would throw that out there. At the same time though. I'm keeping the Elac DB53'S. They're good if you like a laid back, refined, Elac budget "house" sound
@Karto863 ай бұрын
Heco aurora series measures really well, there are reviews on KZbin with measurements
@crazyprayingmantis55963 ай бұрын
Hecos look way better imo.
@MargaQuarki3 ай бұрын
@@MrWslindsay Thanks for you feedback, dude! I'm using the Heco 300 Aurora as well - they sound great!
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
Great review as always. I can’t understand why anybody would intentionally design a speaker to have 500-1000hz suck out that these have. Lowering response in the 2500-4000hz region is often found, and is often called “British sound” or BBC Sound. A slight boost at 150-350 or so can also compensate for a small speaker’s limits below 100hz (gives an impression of low end fullness and can raise a port response for increased low end from it. But the dip these Elacs have are going to do bad things to many recordings, especially vocals in that range.
@gregorymorrill75583 ай бұрын
They are going to fill near a wall. Many people will place these very close to the wall so not a bad design IMHO. For folks with more hifi intentions you'll have peq so just do that thing up.
@einekleineente13 ай бұрын
I dont understand most of the tech details..In summary it is a good speaker for that price?
@yottabyter3 ай бұрын
Not speaking for Erin but I think he summed it up pretty good. If you have the ability to eq it's got good bang for the buck. Also don't forget the sub to bring up that low end.
@hartsickdisciple3 ай бұрын
Yes
@einekleineente13 ай бұрын
@@yottabyter thank you
@greenbeginner92213 ай бұрын
You speak of setting up an equalizer at specific frequency points. Where do you get an equalizer these days and how would I hook it up to my integrated amplifier with turntable, CD player and a streamer? I haven't seen an equalizer for sale since the '70s
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
You can buy something like the miniDSP. Or as I said in the video use something from WiiM’s product line which has built-in EQ options. If you want to go high end with EQ then there is the DEQX brand of products.
@greenbeginner92213 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCornerIs that how everyone is doing that? Wiim products are popular but I can't imagine that every one of your viewers owns a wiim or the other product you mentioned.
@Mark198d3 ай бұрын
@@greenbeginner9221 Many (most?) people are listening to music through streaming (Spotify, Tidal) or music files (FLAC, mp3) and not physical media (CD's, vinyl) anymore. So people have access to EQ through their streamer like the WiiM, through PC music playing software (foobar2000), or the miniDSP products. Schiit Audio sells analog EQ products (Loki, Lokius) similar in function to those from the 70's, but the digital ones are more precise.
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
@@greenbeginner9221well another option is to buy speakers you won’t need to eq…or at least not like these need to be. WiiM is just an example. However, I recommend checking out one of the Wiim preamp/streaming devices that has a phono input and phono preamp built in. Of course it also has at least one line level rca input for your cd player and a couple digital ones if your cd player has a digital output. For very little money that little Wiim likely matches and outperforms the preamp section of your integrated. Alternatively, as erin mentioned, if your integrated has preouts between the preamp section and power amp section (usually with jumpers across rca jacks) you can put a minidsp device between them and everything you run through the integrated will have whatever eq or dsp you set it up with. You can even do room measurements etc. Or you could put a minidsp device before the preamp one one input and use a passive signal switcher to switch inputs. Some of the devices can accommodate more than one source and have multiple channels of output. But that’s is a mess of cables! The mini dsp devices will let you eq anything, including turntables and cassette tapes to your hearts content. The analogue signals are first converted into digital, then eq is applied, and then output. I’m sure the idea of converting a turntable signal to digital will be horrifying to some, but these days if done right you will never know and in any case and degradation will be far less than an old analog eq. Old analogue graphic equalizers are obsolete. We are in the golden age of eq, dsp, etc. without ANY signal degradation. Capabilities now goes far beyond basic eq, you can compensate of time delays, many room reflections, etc. Though as erin notes: you cannot eq or dsp away every issue, and some speakers eq well and others do not. Most decent streaming devices have eq , some better than others. If using a computer as a source, with software like roon etc you can eq to your hearts content. Most AVRs have at least some sort of rudimentary manu al equalizer you can use. And any decent one will have now have decent auto measuring dsp protocols (audessy, Dirac, etc) . Not using those with an avr is like trying to drive a car without a suspension.
@tylerrynberg3 ай бұрын
It's primarily done in software these days, not hardware. Most people use digital sources so it is straightforward to do so. Pro audio world still has analog PEQ boxes.
@aladdinswunderlampe27 күн бұрын
thank you very much! How do they compare to the Kali LP-UNF?
@maxigabime530810 күн бұрын
Great review! I don't know if someone could give me a hint or your thoughts, by prices here in Argentina I could get the polk xt20 at $580 usd, the polk es20 at $720usd and the Wharfedale 12.1 at $620usd. If you scale the speakers, the prices scale too, just to give you and idea, the Polk r200 is $1325usd so scaling in speakers it's not an option haha Sadly buying them and returning them it's not an option here, so what do you think it will be a better choise? Thank you!
@maxigabime530810 күн бұрын
Ah yeah, and this Elac goes around $640.
@lisjak82Ай бұрын
You really have detailed reviews to make it easier for people to decide, because it's really not possible to test all speakers live before buying. I'm looking for bookshelf speakers for a 3.1 system that will stand near the back wall. Which would sound better, the KEF Q150 or the Elac debut DB53, the price is currently practically the same. Thanks
@ErinsAudioCornerАй бұрын
I haven’t heard the DB53. So for that reason I’d default to the Q150.
@lisjak82Ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner honest answer 😉Do you recommend any other brand or model in this size and price range that you tested?
@middleearthltd3 ай бұрын
Interesting Not surprised that all the KZbin reviewers said this was punching 10x above its price point 🤔 Thank you for doing all this work and putting out the review You do the community a great service At some point Danny will be asked to do an upgrade As one comment noted, they bought from Crutchfield and did an in home demo and returned
@AndrewB233 ай бұрын
Snake oil Danny 😂
@middleearthltd3 ай бұрын
@@AndrewB23 Danny/GR Research are fine by me so my opinion is contrary to your opinion I do believe that he will end up with a pair of these speakers for upgrade Because the owner thought they were buying a great speaker and did not, or were not, able to do an in home demo to see if they liked them Some I expect would be just fine owing these speakers and be happy and that is all that matters 10% of Danny’s business is speaker upgrades Snake oil to me is shilling sub-optimal components on KZbin
@CC-xu2yz3 ай бұрын
@@middleearthltd You mean like power cables?🤣
@Chris-sj5fhАй бұрын
Looking for a close-to-back-wall, truly on a bookshelf, speaker. Stereo, w an SVS sub. I currently am trying these ELACs and am enjoying them a lot. I do feel like I'm missing some "warmth" so hoping someone has advice on what I might try or like?
@frankmaze19723 ай бұрын
What about the ELAC SW1225, which is the most bang for your buck?
@josegallegosdds2 ай бұрын
Would you buy these over the Wharefeld Lintons 85?
@ErinsAudioCorner2 ай бұрын
Heck no.
@DanAndreiVladut3 ай бұрын
Erin, I just picked up a pair of the XT20 and have not even unboxed them for $200 new. I have access to a pair of the DB63 for about 400. Is it worth the upgrade? I have a Wiim amp and plan to do some serious room correction.
@angelotero25813 ай бұрын
In your opinion, is this one better than the Kef q3 metas you recently reviewed?
@AndrewB233 ай бұрын
I wouldn't think so
@trinityflow3 ай бұрын
Nice review! Quick question… Is it possible that the room correction on the WiiM can damage speakers? It seems my Klipsch RP600Ms sound lifeless after running the room correction. Even with room correction off or on.
@LucMaasgreenwolf49Ай бұрын
Great review! Are you also going to review the DB53? I'm really curious how they compare.
@Mjaybird3 ай бұрын
Would you recommend these with the towers for a starter 5.1 system then add onto it?
@asx12483 ай бұрын
Hi @ErinsAudioCorner, what software calculates EPDR for you? Do you happen to have the formula? Thanks.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
I have a formula in matlab that takes the impedance phase and magnitude and calculate it. I don’t recall where I found the equation offhand, though.
@jamestimmons60223 ай бұрын
What software did you use? i mean the eq software?
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
What I showed on screen is REW. What I used to make the adjustments is in the WiiM Ultra (or the WiiM Amp).
@jamestimmons60223 ай бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner ok i wonder if i can use equalizer apo to do the same?
@CC-xu2yz3 ай бұрын
@@jamestimmons6022 Pretty sure you can.
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
Did you screw in the speaker feel? Huge difference! Kidding. Sorry.
@nukmuk3 ай бұрын
Since you said most people would have these in a living room setting, what do you look for in a speaker for a setup like that? Of course the bass shelf like on the KEF, but other than that, is it just good directivity, flat on-axis response, and low bass extension? Also do you have a list of the best speakers at certain price points? For example based on your reviews, for $400 I would definitely get the Kali LP-6v2 over these ELACs. But then I'm left wondering if there are even better speakers than the LP-6v2's for the same or less money 🤔
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Those are what I’d be looking for, yes. 👍 I do have a few different videos at different price points. I believe I did one last fall for under $500. And I’ve had others sprinkled in.
@DominikV2352 ай бұрын
You gave more information and did a great work with presenting this amazing speaker then Pfizer ever gave info about the vaccine. Thanks for this you are amazing. I am now tempted to buy
@Billy-rr7re2 ай бұрын
these vs debut reference. are the reference really better than these?
@David-tp5rv3 ай бұрын
Where can I find that shirt? 👀
@NotSure89Ай бұрын
DB63 sounded "thin" to me so after listening to a dozen other speakers I went with Polk ES20 instead and to my ear it's perfect AND it's almost half the price of these Elacs. I wonder why no review for ES20 a hidden gem IMO.
@Chris-sj5fhАй бұрын
I'm trying these ELACs now and while I like them I also find them "thin". Not sure I will keep them.
@daniellawdaniel569522 күн бұрын
Toe them in and you will hear a difference
@cbayardelle10 күн бұрын
Moving the speakers away or closer to the wall would make changes in the bass & mids that you hear, great reviews
@Time-Travelling-Lesbian3 ай бұрын
When you say that the sibilance is crossover related what do you mean exactly? And why can't it be resolved by equalization
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
There’s a directivity mismatch that is “baked in” to the design where the on-axis response differs from the off-axis a good bit in the crossover region. And since you cannot separate on axis from off axis response you cannot EQ them separately. Which means you can’t “EQ away” those kind of issues. Not without sacrificing something else in tonality. This was more prevalent in the previous model. Not this one.
@paspolc3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. However, I didn't quite understand, despite reading all the comments, whether it would be worth switching from Elac Dbr62 to Db63. Opinions are welcome.
@hiroshisama3 ай бұрын
he basically said, if you have money itching to be spend, you might get a minor upgrade, so sure go ahead. If you don't really have extra money it might not be worth it, since its just a minor upgrade
@paspolc3 ай бұрын
I would be curious to listen to those new db63, but there aren't hifi shops nearby, unfortunately they all closed.
@ziggy87573 ай бұрын
so these debut 3.0 are not significantly better than the previous debut 6.2? this statement is holding me back to buy this ones...omg
@trevorf20982 ай бұрын
Would you choose the Kali LP6 over these?
@ErinsAudioCorner2 ай бұрын
Yeah.
@trevorf20982 ай бұрын
@ Thanks!
@MechAdv3 ай бұрын
So if you have the cash, it looks like it’s still quite a step up to get the DBR62. I wonder if they’re going to refresh the reference model pretty soon as well.
@victorvalenzuela69493 ай бұрын
Hello 👋🏼 What about the 3.0 Towers?
@EclipseCircle2 ай бұрын
How are these for near field? Like on a desktop?
@ErinsAudioCorner2 ай бұрын
Kind of overkill. Check out the Kali LP-UNF. Review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noDOfomYjJyMqtU
@ThomasKahalepuna3 ай бұрын
Erin, any chance of you getting Ascend Accoustics too Bookshelf speaker any time soon
@lammy88421 күн бұрын
thanks for the review, can someone out there help me with how the elac behaves in comparison to the triangle br03. thanks
@dangerzone0073 ай бұрын
Any frequency response problems can easily be fixed with a Behringer 31 band EQ. .
@ManFromLaBamba3 ай бұрын
Not true. Depends on what is causing the response problems, as erin noted in the review. You can’t fix problems stemming from directivity for example. Or many crossover issues. And please…there are MUCH better, More precise and flexible and sonically superior ways to apply eq than that berringer. In software or software/hardware. And 31 bands are ok but will never be as good as proper parametric eq.
@dangerzone0073 ай бұрын
@@ManFromLaBamba ok but most frequency response problems can be fixed with EQ
@CC-xu2yz3 ай бұрын
@@dangerzone007 Not necessarily.
@Vladetz3 ай бұрын
Hi Erin! Do you have plans to review Mission 700 or 770, or maybe new Leak sandwich? All of them are designed by Peter Comeau
@MjaybirdАй бұрын
I am going to use your link to buy the center speaker
@ErinsAudioCornerАй бұрын
Well, thank you.
@oliviu111193 ай бұрын
Are the db53's same liniar, does somebody know?
@SuperSnks2 ай бұрын
Hi! I have the Elac Debut Connex (The small active ones). While they sound good, anyone have any idea how Debut 3.0 compares?
@kaplandjk29 күн бұрын
Why doesn't anyone review the ELAC Debut 3.0 DF63-BK Floorstanding Speaker. I see no reviews out there, but you all went crazy on bookshelf version.
@ErinsAudioCorner28 күн бұрын
You thought I went crazy for this speaker? Are we watching the same review?
@kaplandjk26 күн бұрын
@@ErinsAudioCorner Rewatched video. I think you kind of liked them. But I love your data first review style. Strong work! Hope you do 63 floors.
@tomerikstokness2763 ай бұрын
What I see, is a little to mild baffelstep compensation. If you ignore the resonance at 750hz, there is a step below 1khz-isj.. Most likely a "voicing" decision done, because most of the buyers will use this near a wall..
@sertacersin3 ай бұрын
Hi Erin,I would be glad if you review Mission Qx5 Mk2.Thank you
@scottbennett3119Ай бұрын
Very informative review.. Thank you. It would be really cool if you would review the smaller DB53 version to see how it measures and compares in sound quality. Randy, 'The Cheap Audio Man' likes the DB53 better. Have a good one.
@dannyrichie97433 ай бұрын
Hey everybody! That made me laugh! A couple of thoughts on this one and something for you to consider or try.... I'd love to see you add a spectral decay to your measurements. This speaker is a good example of how that will give you some very useful and telling information. That big peak in the response at 650Hz could be a number of things. If it is a resonance then it will show stored energy at that spot and it will show up in the spectral decay as an area that takes longer to settle. Or it could be more of an amplitude peak with little to no ringing. Typically a peak like this will be ringing, but the spectral decay will show how bad it is. It could be ringing a little or a lot. We also sometimes see a dip and peaked area in the 800 to 1,100 region that is actually a reflection or diffraction from the inside edge of the woofer through hole if it was not radiused with a rounded or chamfered edge on the inside. This diffraction will cause issues in the response like that but it will not have the ringing of a resonance. That problem is also solvable with a special round over bit for a router that will round off the inside edge. It would also be interesting to see the spectral decay before and after you apply the EQ to fix it. EQ is basically turning it down in the peaked area. If it is a resonance then it turns the level down a little, but the resonance is still there and there will still be ringing, and still be audible. So it could be a band aid and not a real fix. Also, a bad resonance will often show up in the impedance curve. That will confirm the resonance.
@ErinsAudioCorner3 ай бұрын
Haha. Glad you got a laugh out of it. Thanks for the recommendations on the other stuff. In the past I’ve taken out drivers to make sure the issue isn’t that (basket resonance, surround resonance, etc). I need to go that more often in cases where we see these high-Q resonances. Take care!
@mustdobetter6748Күн бұрын
I’m in the UK; I sit 3ft away from the front wall! 😅
@PossibleAudio3 ай бұрын
Thanks Erin!!!
@KillerSneak3 ай бұрын
Still have to watch the full video (doing now) but I ordered a pair last week (they didn’t arrive yet) but I have the feeling I should cancel the order.. Will update/comment once I finished watching the video.
@KillerSneak3 ай бұрын
Well I think for me personally I’ll keep them. They still seem like nice speakers for the price point. And I’m sure after running Audyssey and my custom REW script afterwards I can get rid of some of the issues you mentioned.
@williamdirks58053 ай бұрын
Could you please consider reviewing the new Dali Rubikore 2 bookshelf speaker? I'd love to see some objective measurements. Thanks
@GeirRssaak3 ай бұрын
Well spoken!cheap audio man is just cheap! Where is the old cheap audioman?!
@jukingeo3 ай бұрын
@Erin. It would be nice if you could take things a step further and take the speaker apart to show how well it is built inside. I know GR Research does this as well as a couple others. I like it because it does help to justify the build quality vs price and to know if I am getting a good deal or I am just being trolled.
@CinnabonMcTasty3 ай бұрын
This speaker really disappointed me, and the Erin professional test results solidified why. I had bought a pair from Crutch and returned a week later, just something about them.
@MrCommunistGen3 ай бұрын
*Interesting* I'm just listening to the intro now, but I was going into the video kinda expecting these to perform "pretty OK".
@Carl-bd1rf3 ай бұрын
Must be the cheesy crossover!!😜
@CinnabonMcTasty3 ай бұрын
@@Carl-bd1rf Oh boy not Danny, its probably got some real cheesy parts in it ROFL, He wants you to buy his $400 crossover network upgrades for a $300 speaker though.
@Carl-bd1rf3 ай бұрын
@@CinnabonMcTasty Lol, exactly!
@alejandrobusquets62143 ай бұрын
@@CinnabonMcTasty With all due respect, it makes sense to me: that way I can enjoy a pair of speakers for $700.00 with $2,000.00 performance...
@NotSure7233 ай бұрын
Large radius port flares damp pressure wave tuning. Andrew Jones had it right on the original Debuts.
@maynard54923 ай бұрын
Speaking of Danny. But he would say .... u will need a 300 to 600 dollars for a upgrade I've heard these speakers and yes it Needs something
@AndrewB233 ай бұрын
Lol yep
@dannyb58743 ай бұрын
7.2kg Erin :) Simple math, wight in pounds / 2 and then substract another 20%... or weight in pounds and devide by 2.2 :) thanks for the review btw
@flash49733 ай бұрын
I would love to see you review the Evoke 30 speakers as it is a speaker i am seriously considering but i have no means to listen to it and even if i could i would still wait till you make a review on it.
@crazyprayingmantis55963 ай бұрын
Get a pair of EPOS instead
@Mikeymikemike3 ай бұрын
Erin, you keep menitoning the March audio amplifiers which are Purifi based. I am looking to purchase the new stereo amplifier once it is available. Can you please do a review of these or comment here on how they perform, especially this versus their stereo models or versus other class D or AB amps in the same price range. I know they are also releasing a new stereo model. You could end up putting march Audio (a small western Australian company) that genuinely makes good products at a good price on the map and I am totally here for that!
@gio-garagedambrosio31443 ай бұрын
Previous serie have front reflex now rear...I dont understand why...mah really misterious 😂
@JF-em6hrАй бұрын
3 Ft? Really? I don't have that kind of room anywhere in my home. Why can't they just make them front ported?
@Chris-sj5fhАй бұрын
Same here. I'm leaning DBR62 because of the front port.