Want to learn how to easily make gold without leaving the Auction House? - Start material flipping!

[@tychus8219]

Encouraging people to fail and learn not just in the game but in real life too felt pretty good advice to kids and even grown ups in a videogame video. Thank you for your work and time.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Just make sure failure doesnt kill you or ruin you, and you are good to go!

[@tychus8219]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Btw sorry for bothering, just wanna ask if u can share with us if you post items with Dbminbuyout or Dbmarket.. im sure u've said it somewhere but i cannot find it. Thank you!

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@tychus8219 dbmarket only, minbuyout is in my personal opinion mostly useless.

[@tychus8219]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker so, but then that means that u aint undercutting and u get undercut by alot of sellers, so how u manage to sell ur stuff?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@tychus8219 you can undercut without using minbuyout in your operations, but I dont undercut when material flipping, players often buy many materials at once, so the price can and will change. On top of that players are lazy, if you are the cheapest in a specific stack size you will get sales even if you arent the cheapest.

[@psykotedy]

This is some great insight into the approach. Everybody talks about flipping like it's easy (and fundamentally, it is: buy low, sell high), but there are complexities that nobody else has covered. This was the most in-depth look into the nuances of flipping as I've seen (akin to having someone in the car with you when you're trying to learn to operate a manual transmission). Thank you!

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

The interesting part is that even just buying brainlessly below my max and selling at market value works surprisingly well, but it's always better to understand why you something works!

[@willem9434]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Good Day and thank you for the great tips. What do you do if you are undercut by others? Cancel all items and reslist them?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@willem9434 I just leave them up for materials, since I sell in nice stack sizes there are often players willing to buy even if I'm not the cheapest. Part of the strategy is to not even really try to compete on short term price, but keep stuff up at a reasonable price where it will eventually sell.

[@myravied7965]

What I figure out over time: once I find a nice gap and have 50% price difference, I am posting 1 x20 stack, 2 X10 stacks, 5 X5 stack and so on up to x1, so it's great choice for ppl and things selling faster

[@CQueen96]

Good thing to keep in mind. Don't stress about being perfect. Mistakes are how we learn and do better each time. Even if it's frustrating, mistakes help you see what is wrong or what you are doing right but could do better at

[@fernandocordoba5934]

Finally someone who fully explained how to flip. really good and quick explanation. I´ll follow your blog and suscribe :)

[@MrM3f]

I have returned to wow just a few days ago from a long absence. Truly awesome explanation. I am on my work place but when I get home going to check your videos. Thank you very much for the great video and explanation.

[@brainstubber]

Great video, but can't say, that I was able to do this kind of flipping on practice. It seems that on my realm almost every single player has an AH addon of some kind, which helps them with posting stuff. I'm able to do scans quite often, but it's mostly unreal to find underpriced materials :

[@SanctumRubis]

Your guides are so good and underrated. The channel is so imformative. I'm starting to get familiar with TSM and flipping thanks to you. I've been a bit daring and flipping some items such as BoE epics lately and it's been a rollercoster but still profiting! Could you provide us with the export of your groups please? I couldn't it on your written guide.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

They show up for me at the bottom of the post, in two code boxes. One string each for TBC and classic materials.

[@BESTGINGEREU]

This video was amazingly helpful, and so insightful. I am really struggling to deal with the current lag on the AH when using TSM, can you give any advise on how to overcome this?

[@juvygenius]

Very good video and furthers my knowledge on flipping. I have played with flipping for about a month for now and learned some things about myself pertaining to it. I seem to not like the low profit flips that much pertaining to what time is invested into finding those and with consideration of how well they sell based on sell rate that TSM provides. While the profits can more or less be assured, I argue with myself on it being efficient to do. Thus I have come to favor crafting flips more compared to just pure resale flips. Mostly been doing alchemy and tailoring which has more to do with how you basically print gold through duplication procs or specialization. On top of that, the primal market fits pretty well in with that where I am looking for those cheaper prices to buy them in bulk which works alongside both alchemy and tailoring. But if the market shoots up in value, I can resell those primals for direct profit and rebuy low at a later point in time which seems to consistently occur around that market.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Yeah I do a lot of crafting as well, jewelcrafting with prospecting, certain tailoring recipes and a bit of alchemy in particular.

[@lolomanen11]

Hi, quick question; do you buy and certain times during the week? Idea is of course to buy when low and sell when price is high

[@Cyanji]

By importing the groups, will I be able to just buy up to 100% like you do in the vid or do I have to set something up in TSM regarding the max price at 80%? Thanks

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

no, you use them exactly as I did in the video, no extra setup needed.

[@markoniksic3630]

HI, love your guide. Why does the shopping scan search items that are not in the selected group?

[@icemanmcpherson1821]

Can you make ATS M setting to add to this one for wrath now

[@matteusbranka3579]

Hey great content mate. Im just starting out and wondering if its often worth to sell in stacks or in single stack? :) Cheers

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Depends on the item. For items that players usually by more than one of larger stack sizes are generally better. For most materials I use stack sized of 20, 10 and 5.

[@Vin0Monster]

Hi there, thnx for the TSM groups! I've been using them for quite a while now and they have been very profitable! Do you also have the same idea for WotLK Materials?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Yes, the same operations will work well for wrath materials, I'll make an updated guide with updated groups soon. Right now prices are still nlt stable, so hard to use the general approach until things stabilize

[@Vin0Monster]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Tyvm, can't wait for the update/video!

[@dasse1588]

Imported the groups and operations from your blog. Tried both imports you provide. (TBC And Classic) Wondering about the over writes. TSM prompts: "over ride existing operations?" . Having some weird results with auctions postings very high pricing.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

You should override yes. I believe the operations use your average purchase price, so if you bought materials at a higher price in the past it can post stuff higher than you want.

[@RobReder]

Sadly this only works on servers with people who post things way below market value. It's SUPER rare to find any raw mats below 90% market value at any time on my server (Fairbanks Horde). I keep watching this videos on making money on the AH, and all of them just blow my mind that stuff is available that cheap (below MV).

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

This has worked for me on a variety of servers, but there's never any guarantees of course. Is Fairbanks a very high population server? This worked even on one of the highest population EU realms back in classic, so there should be opportunities, even if they are rarer.

[@Tpachal]

13:53 That was me just yesterday. Leveled enchanting to 300 and some people made a lot of money off me. Now I am here trying to make it all back and be able to get into gdkp's because I am pretty far behind.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

If you have tailoring you can make a good chunk of gold shuffling the leveling materials. White bandit mask -> disenchant -> vision dust is a classic (literally the first goldmaking method I ever learned back in vanilla TBC).

[@Tpachal]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Vision dust has been great, as well as dream dust. I kind of been following you to the letter and had I not needed to buy a bunch of things to get me geared enough to eventually do BT/Hyjal with my guild after they get Sunwell on farm, TSM probably would show that I have made my money back already. I think I spent around 800g getting Enchanting and Tailoring up to 300 each and I have sold about 1200g worth of Auctions so far. So thank you kindly for your videos and TSM settings.

[@TylerWMueller52]

So let's say there's 10 items at 70% and you buy them all, but a ton more at 81% and it's not feasible to buy them all out. Do you just hold those 10 items until the market value goes back to 100% and then post them? How do you know when it's time, do you just click Auctioning -> Post scan, and then if it says undercutting competition it's good to go, and it will say cheapest below minimum price if not?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

It depends on the quantities and items, in some cases I'll buy everything below 70% and just repost at around 100 and wait for the sales, other cases I might buy a lot of the 81% stuff or just not buy. For something I know sells in large quantities or that has low deposit costs like say enchanting dust used to level enchanting IO'll just buy a ton an keep it on the AH. I tend to just run post scans with everything I have without checking the AH, some items are going to be unlikely to sell, and some will sell quickly every post scan and the time sace from not micro managing is worth the smal efficiency loss in my opinion.

[@icemanmcpherson1821]

Would you mind showing us your operation settings What percentage you have for minimum maximum and normal Thanks much

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

You can find the full TSM Setup in the blog post linked in the video description. Typically I use 100% min, 105% normal and 120% max for material flipping

[@icemanmcpherson1821]

Are those percentages for dbmarket value

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@icemanmcpherson1821 yes

[@Sebastianwiberg]

is there a way to copy the tsm settings? like the shopping lists and all that?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

There's an import code in the linked blog post. I don't have a video showing how to import settings, but it's the small arrow next to the search box in the top left on the groups page of the TSM UI.

[@omerovic6]

Hi.Is this method doable on wotlk classic ? And how is your tsm loading so fast I waiting on wotlk like 4-5min until i get scanned

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

This still works on wrath. The AH is slowed down artificially on wrath, so all addons are slower than they "should" be. I'm not getting these speeds now either.

[@omerovic6]

@@TheLazyGoldmakerWill you post any guide for wotlk classic or to focus on this one.Im total noob about AH hah

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@omerovic6 We have to wait for markets to stabilize for this to work, at expansion launches prices just trend down for a while. i'll update my guide as soon as the market is "safe" to enter (probably a week or two).

[@BananaJointTV]

Great video man!

[@Raion-Games]

is there something in can do about the TSM errors when i buy to much to quick via macro?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Sadly no, that's the AH throttle kicking in. Blizzard added it to combat lag as the entire game slows down if there is too much stuff on the AH.

[@joeg7942]

Is there a way to filter out the scammers who set bids at 1c? It makes bidding on low cost items difficult.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

I just look at Buyouts when doing this so I've never tried filtering out 1c bids

[@leeeeni]

how do i decide if i should transfor my essences into greater/lesser essences?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Compare the prices, if whatever would give you the most gold, or by looking at the most popular recipes for that essence type and selling in whichever recipe is most likely to sell well.

[@matejsipek]

Hey mate so you just buy everthing under 100 % becasue in your operation 100 % = really 80 % ye ?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Yep, that's the gist of it. There are situations where I choose not to buy if there's say thousands of Strange dust below 100%, as that might mean the price is trending downwards.

[@matejsipek]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Thanks Btw on your website you have under 80 % i was not sure

[@matejsipek]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker And one more questions where i can find update tsm tbc group because i dont have mail plate cloth leather items in this group and in this video you have it

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@matejsipek The BoEs are in another group. I've never published that group and I never really use it so, you're not missing out.

[@matejsipek]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker ok one more thanks

[@Aomusouka]

My server might be broken to do this, I imported the string and run the sniper scan and it finds nothing, can anyone help?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

It's for shopping scans using the browse screen, not sniping.

[@BigJahk]

The operations in your groups have min price set to well over 100% of market value on tons of items. Am i missing something?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Do you have any examples? I'm looking through my operations now and they all seem to have 100%dbmarket as the minimum price. I have checked "match stack size" which means the operations will ignore auctions in other stack sizes than the one it's posting which will lead to posting above min price in many situations where you might have not expected it to.

[@xinov8548]

Do you have a WOTLK TSM IMPORTS

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

Yes, available for all patrons, and publicly as I publish guide videos to specific markets.

[@MrMannerless]

can you or someone please tell me how to add or show the "total profit" tab in revenue, mine doesnt show this.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

There's three dots at the top bar, where you can choose to add or remove columns from the view.

[@MrMannerless]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Thanks man, I actually found this myself when i saw them, i literally couldnt believe such important information was by default hidden from view... thats like having laced shoes left untied!

[@MrMannerless]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker Is there any way for the app to calculate your total purchase expenses for a list of items (aka fel iron ore total purchase) or is this something you need to manually add up row by row?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@MrMannerless If you click an item you will get a list of all your transactions, as well as some overall data. Alternatively you can export your accounting data as a .csv file and do it in excel or some other data analysis software.

[@MrMannerless]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker thanks I’ll try it and get back to you.

[@wgardi1762]

Is it possible to get a link so I can import your strings please?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

It should be available in the blog post I linked in the video description!

[@glennovich1006]

I am trying to find your operations, would you mind sharing that please

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

The TSM import strings are at the bottom of the post on my website linked in the video description!

[@jonathanbody3890]

Thank you brother

[@laudi94]

hi sir, your tsm import string isnt correct on your website ! otherwise well done !

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

I'll have to fix that ASAP, are both wrong, or just one of them?

[@fernandocordoba5934]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker both are wrong

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@fernandocordoba5934 I tried updating them, see if it works know, or I'll have to check more later tonight when I can get to my computer again

[@janickmarbot4548]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker they are still invalid unfortunately :(

[@fernandocordoba5934]

@@janickmarbot4548 Check the comments in the post (in the blog)

[@moss8430]

How do I import your settings? From the website

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

The TSM import codes are at the bottom of this post: thelazygoldmaker.com/tbc-goldmaking-material-flipping-the-number-one-entry-level-market

[@jorgequirant4289]

hey, how can i import your configuration?

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

The import code should be in the blog post linked in the description!

[@dacu8738]

Is z2u credible?

[@ДениславМетодиев-е6г]

Meh too risky, I found the way to make 1g profit per item, try cooking, meat sells 1g cheaper than the food buff, so at this point everyone is raiding and min/maxing roughly I sell about 1500-2000 blackened bassilisks per day which is 1k+ profit just chilling in sw and cooking

[@myravied7965]

Умно!!

[@TheRealJamesRussell]

Crafting profits always depend on server... flipping isn't really that risky either...

[@myravied7965]

@@TheRealJamesRussell but he's doing 1k per day, so he's gucchi

[@myravied7965]

@@TheRealJamesRussell flipping is not risky at all +++

[@adamgrabowski938]

too risky? literally every rich gold maker in wow uses flipping as their primary source of income

[@eazykillz1]

I wish you added, in-game footage with your commentary

[@shamrock5133]

its much easier to just farm gold while watching a movie lmao

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

If you like farming then yes, I agree it is easier. If you want to really get rich playing the AH is a lot more time-efficient than farming though. Personally I hate farming, you'll never catch me farming unless something is BoP.

[@shamrock5133]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker right i get the passive goldmaking but at some point you are spending more time waiting for the ah than you can just farming dungeons solo with the right proffesions and zero competition. All that said, i get what you are doing and trying to show, and more powerr to you if you can succeed.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

That requires a lot of time though. If you just want to login and spend 20 minutes on the AH, the wait time isn't really an issue. The absolute best approach is to combine the AH, professions and farming. Once you've stocked everything you can on the AH you can spend the rest of your time farming, but most players don't have infinite time, or even much time that they want to spend farming, and if you play 2 hours a day or less on average and want to do other things than making gold the AH becomes a much better value proposition.

[@shamrock5133]

@@TheLazyGoldmaker spent 30 minutes in mana tombs get 200g. Your spending more time looking in the AH for like 5g profit lmao. Not even mentioning the cost to put up the items and the 5% AH cut.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

@@shamrock5133 I generated more than 200g profit off the items I spent like 10 minutes buying when I recorded this video. What are you farming in Mana Tombs? I'm not really familiar with any TBC farming methods since I dislike spending my time doing it. Deposit costs and AH cut will happen to everyone. Doesn't seem like I'll convince you that this has an edge over farming though, so just enjoy your farms, and I'll enjoy the AH.

[@brianyou2]

I hate mats flipperrrrr:(

[@nuvynavy999]

Some of Farmers need fast gold. They put lowest price of auction house. Well... Some buyers take it and sell it again with 100% avg market. I had practicing these but none work for 100% profit. Some matts are very long to sold. But yeah, this way for passively income. Don't spend what you affraid to lose

[@sheesh3028]

Making 250g a day is pretty bad. Even if you just spend 1h a day flipping.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

I would only spend 10-15 minutes on this per day, which would put 250 gold per day at 1000-1500 gold per hour, which is very good compared to most farming methods. This is definitely on the entry level scale of AH-based methods though.

[@gabrielzardet3768]

The only useful information you need to actually auction house/station trade and flip is not even mentionned in the video. You NEED to know (on average) volumes that are being BOUGHT (not SOLD) of any given item before even concidering buying it out for potential resell and thing is, in wow, you simply do not have access to that bit of information. With your method you might just end up pilling up tons of shits you wont be able to sell back (in time) on less populated servers simply because the market you are buying them from is already over supplied. It does not matter how high the BUYING price has gone up on anything if you cant correlate it with actual stats on volume BOUGHT. And by that I mean how many are being bought per h/day, in what amount are they being bought per order etc... This is my "pro" tip (well I've been doing this on multiple games for nearly 20 years... FML) one can only SAFELY flip things that are actually bought (and preferably in great volumes) by players ;D and TSM wont help you with that, only your personal knowledge will and on that point your experience may GREATLY vary depending on which server you are playing. Also. If you wanna run with lvl 1 banks, please dont make it harder for you than it is, head them to the Exodar, less walking distance from mail box to auction house.

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

TSM actually has stats on region average sold per day. Not on a realm per realm basis though. Obviously you are correct in that you need to know how much people are buying, which often equates to knowing what players are using the item for. Unless I misremember I do use the example of Vision dust and that you need around 300 to power level classic enchanting if you follow the normal leveling guide. Understanding what items have demand and why is definitely a key skill though, one I probably often take for granted since I've been doing it for so long. Would probably make for a good video for beginners.

[@Rychleji]

Nice. I wondered if exodar has shorter AH-mail distance than IF. The funniest place to visit AH is Darnassus for sure :D

[@billyumbraskey8135]

no mailboxes in the AH this video is a lie

[@TheLazyGoldmaker]

There's literally a picture of the results in the video description after things started selling, but you are free to believe whatever you want my dude.