War Thunder Air Combat Maneuvers: The Headon

War Thunder Air Combat Maneuvers.
Bf 109 F-4, F-86F-2 Sabre, Ta 152 C-3 and more in ACM, The Headon.
War Thunder Arcade and Realistic Battle.
War Thunder, Patch 1.59. The Headon in Air Combat Maneuvers.
Today its time for the Third episode of our series: Air Combat Maneuvers. In Today's episode we're taking a look at the Headon, a risky but rewarding maneuver. Hope you enjoy :)
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[@worvernscar]

Awesome video as always man. I have noticed the frame rate dropping a bit in certain parts of the video. I'm not sure if it's because of KZbin or from a hiccup in your recording software or exporting at 30 fps. Just wanted to let you know. :)

[@jengar6258]

ty mate, i noticed it too, i think it happened in the recording, must have had a lag spike or internet problem. My internet connection isnt the best.

[@jengar6258]

Hey guys, We're looking at the Headon today in this episode of Air Combat Maneuvers. A maneuver that is very risky, but can be very rewarding :) Let me know what you think, and do enjoy ;)

[@CAL1MBO]

On the stat card of my R2Y2 V3 it says that the max repair cost is 50000 Lions. Does that mean when I die, I have to pay 50k?

[@lucassanders9951]

Depends on mode and the extent of the damage. AB repair costs are less than RB/SB. A completely wrecked aircraft will cost more/take longer to repair than one that's shot to hell but you manage to belly land. Also, the fee is not incurred immediately; you only incur the fee if you pay for an immediate repair on the plane. For this reason most frugal people un-click the "auto repair" option. Your crews will repair damaged aircraft over time which depends on the rank and level of their skills- this costs no money. You can also let the crews partially repair the aircraft before paying a lesser repair cost.

[@CAL1MBO]

+Lucas Sanders I'm aware but surely if I just crash it straight into the ground in RB I would pay a straight up cost of 50k? That's insane!

[@lucassanders9951]

Such is the price of playing Japan!

[@CAL1MBO]

+Lucas Sanders Isn't that the highest cost in the game for RB?

[@cptflyingfort7147]

Great video, this debunks the myth that people who don't know how to headon always say: headons are a 50/50 chance. The biggest way people fail at headons is they don't even try to evade until the opponent is dead. If you want to survive a headon, you must evade around 600 meters at the latest, or you will still receive hits and possibly die.

[@jengar6258]

i agree its a myth, and also that many people make the mistake to only evade when the enemy is dead. Forgetting that he also shot off a salvo. I would say evade even earlier then 600m. 600 already means that you often die.

[@cptflyingfort7147]

+Jengar I'd day 600 only if you pull an inverted headon pass, meaning you are rolling inverted as you are shooting which only works with nose mounted guns, I usually start to evade around 900 meters.

[@jengar6258]

Fair enough, good stuff :)

[@JumonkeyOnline]

Some great kills there mate and some handy tips :)

[@jengar6258]

Cheers Monk :)

[@dukecrom]

Thx 4 that tutorial. Didn't thought of firing early.... And it is so obvious Stupid me :D TYVM!

[@jengar6258]

you are very welcome mate, im glad it helped you out :)

[@damo4959]

Nice addition to the set Jengar, much appreciated

[@jengar6258]

You're welcome damo :)

[@MARCTOWNUSA]

Thank you much JENGAR for posting different types of combat maneuvers for us to learn. They are a much needed!👍😎✈

[@jengar6258]

np marc! :)

[@MARCTOWNUSA]

Jengar......can you do a video of the K-100 and the A7M2. It would be awesome to watch and learn about these planes since I just got them.....thank you👍😎✈(JASTA11_BOOGER1)

[@antoinecharron6062]

Realy realy good things to know! Again, a good video mate ;)

[@jengar6258]

Cheers Royal, glad it helped out :)

[@MARCTOWNUSA]

Great move...shoot first....get away first!👍😎✈

[@silo_fx3182]

Head on with a LA9 - Twice! Brave man :-) Nice vid...

[@jengar6258]

Ty Mate, gotta be fearless, im the hunter ;) that is always how i look at it ;)

[@dr.michaelr.foreman2170]

I have gotten killed in head-ons when the other guy wants to play chicken and, I shoot him down either with guns or rockets when he is right on top of me, and of course, I end up running into his debris. As long as I killed him even a split second before I run into his debris, is fine. Then it still counts as a kill for me, and a crash for him. Otherwise, it is recorded as a crash for both of us.

[@jengar6258]

i just try to shoot them early, no crash needed, me alive ;)

[@user-gs8cd5nm1w]

😂😂i was always just evading the head on with a barrel roll moving down cause i was afraid of them so much

[@jengar6258]

you should either always do them and excell at it trough experience, or never. There's no middle way. These days i do them less often, and i lost some of my old mastery.

[@diefreundlichemk-1083]

i fucking adore head ons. If someone invites me to do one, I accept it and usually the opponent dies. The trick is to fire at 1.5km, he goes up in flames while you can easily avoid the incoming bullets. Works with almost every aircraft (except for the F2 Sabre, because Sparks)

[@jengar6258]

shoot early, move early

[@thefredkalis]

nice I watch it in Los angeles california

[@jengar6258]

hey mate, holiday time? :)

[@Galaxy-oy4nj]

I did a head on with my friend in customs, him in MiG-23MF, me in the Yak-9T. And smh i won lol

[@jengar6258]

hehe, nice1 ;)

[@Ken-se9ru]

Hey Jengar. Is it recommended not to fly straight if you want to head-on? I mean like turning a bit just to avoid having a predictible line of flight? Last question off topic: I use 500m convergence for all my planes. What would be your choice of convergence for a normal arcade game? Choice for a wing mounted guns in particular. Cheers and thanks for your help!

[@jengar6258]

i often fly with 600 meters for wingmounted guns, and 800 meters for centrally mounted guns. 800m is also ideal for headons, as it gives you the best range, which is what you want in head ons.

[@SsiolisP]

Yes Jengar time! So, opponent coming from below, shoot below him (or directly on him). Opponent coming from above, shoot above him!!! Easy-peasy rule to remember! UP-UP DOWN-DOWN ...must check your snap-roll video, I'm sure I saw it in your videos but I don't recall watching it. -Navigator set course for Jengar's video list. -Aye aye, Sir!

[@jengar6258]

do keep a sharp eye on the movements of the enemy though, because if a plane comming from avove puts its nove down you'll have to switch the lead to below quickly, and visa versa :)

[@SsiolisP]

Thanks Jengar So many things to learn! And once I'm hit and on fire, with both wings and half of the plane missing... I hear that annoying voice in the background shouting: "CHECK YOUR OIL PRESSURE" :D :D XD

[@jengar6258]

hehe, yea thats a funny one what that comes up :)

[@pseudo_sapiens2461]

G'day Jengar, one question I do have is, do you help people to get them kills or to get the enemy more active and hence give yourself the greater challenge? cheers pseudo

[@jengar6258]

Both mate :) a large part of the WTcommunity still doesnt know what the hell their doing. I'm trying to help remedy that :)

[@pseudo_sapiens2461]

+Jengar yeah you are probably right. do you think it is due to gamers coming from fps's and the likes. Although I really cannot comment on the complexity of the game in correlation to other games, as this is the only game I've ever played. I think alot of guys can't get kills and blame gaijin, but I also think that the youtubers have a great effect on the perception of the game for these newer player. tha is also shouldn't be underestimated.

[@jengar6258]

true, i cant completely compare it either, i havnt played a shooter in awhile, but might do so again in the future, aside from that i think indeed that is where the russian bias myth comes from, im talking for air here, i dont play tanks :)

[@budsmoker60]

Advice on convergence anyone, currently I play US, the 50's don't seem to do much in the way of damage, I have better results with the cannon Mustang (obviously.)

[@jengar6258]

convergence for head ons should preferably be 800M :)

[@budsmoker60]

Jengar Thanks jengar, I'll give it a try, BOOM, and I'm shot down lol. Love the content by the way!

[@jengar6258]

Hehe, keep at it mate :) Cheers!

[@KK-yn7tk]

Yes, a new Tutorial :)

[@jengar6258]

glad you happy mate :)

[@akbardwiputra2912]

Jengar, can you make a video of how to react if there is a plane diving on me. Should i try to turn or what ?

[@jengar6258]

Defensive flying, i could, but it'll take a while to gather footage. In the meantime you could look at my Thank you compilations, there's a lot of defensive dog fighting in those. its a skill you build up over the years, much of it is instinctive.

[@akbardwiputra2912]

+Jengar ohh ok , thanks for the heads up

[@lucassanders9951]

In general, turn into the dive. They'll generally have too much speed to react and will have to reset their attack, which should buy you some time. If you execute a full turn you can sometimes catch them in your sights as they overshoot you. I've done this a grand total of 1 time, against a Zero which had every advantage against my stock Firefly. He dove and was attempting to engage in a turn-fight (which would have been dumb for me) but as he banked left to pursue I was already finishing my right-hand turn and he was in my sights at about a distance of 10 meters. After I got done peeing myself I unloaded a burst of 20mm into him as a snap shot that I'll never be able to do again if I tried. You don't need to research improved cannons/ammo if you're firing at 10 meters. Just saying.

[@jengar6258]

getting someone to overshoot by either rolling, snaprolling or turning and then turning into him and shooting him in his zoom is a solid tactic, that i've executed many times. This isnt easy if you've never done it though as it requires you to move the plane while looking at the opponent in your maneuvers.

[@PREPERMIKE2012]

I do my best to avoid Head on battles, but on the subject you did not mention Gun Convergence and range. I wish there was a simple guide for each aircraft in WT that could tell me what the average or better than my guess as to what range I should have my guns at. Wing Gun mounted Fighters (300m) Nose Gun Mounted Fighters (300m) Attackers Same as Fighters? Bombers (not for AI) but user shooting (300/400/500m) no idea, for my the worst of my shooting in RB. =NmY= GoGoFly

[@jengar6258]

gun convergence for head ons is best at 800m. as you want to fire between 2 and 1 km distance. 800 meter convergence give you effective range till 1600-2000 meters. in a lot of wing mounted fighters i do run 600m though, centrally mounted guns i always set to 800 meters.

[@PREPERMIKE2012]

That seems really long to me, but you would know better than me so I will give 600 a try and see how it goes.

[@jengar6258]

i think it will help you, i almost never come as close as 300 meters to an enemy target.

[@Wes5501]

what about vertical targeting....with what you said in the video, were you using vertical targeting?

[@jengar6258]

i dont use vertical targeting wes ;)

[@Wes5501]

Jengar ahh, ok. thank ya buddy!

[@jengar6258]

np mate

[@angelavila8722]

In RB, should you only try to head-on with planes that have good roll rates?

[@jengar6258]

you can headon with anything, you just got to be aware of your technique :)

[@lucassanders9951]

You *can* head-on anything. That doesn't mean you *should*. It takes some learning, but I try to avoid head-ons with aircraft that either have 1.) More cannons than me; or 2.) have a substantial center-line armament (B-25s/PBJs, F-82s, I-16s at lower levels, P-39/63s, Russian planes built around 37/45mm cannons, etc.).

[@jengar6258]

its more risk true, but its save to say if you start early and evade early you'll win 70-80% of the time :)

[@dhakagod]

If my guns converge at 500 meters, how will it hit a target headon at 1000-2000 meters?

[@jengar6258]

with 500 m then will still have the wih of your guns at 1000m after they crossed, at 1500 meters they might still hit a wingtip, but its unlikely, at 2000m they will not hit anything.

[@dhakagod]

@@jengar6258 Thanks for the response :) It still isn't making much trigonometric sense to me but I'll give this a go. If it works, it works! ;) Thanks for your vids. They are helpful.

[@mrplop38]

@@dhakagod make an X with your fingers, the start and the end are still in line with each other :)) think of the middle being the 500m mark

[@edwardblomstrand7203]

What's the name of your squadron? I'd be honoured if you had me:)

[@jengar6258]

=NmY= Unrivaled. You're welcome to sign up :)

[@pseudo_sapiens2461]

by the way, isn't a head on against you called JOUSTING WITH JENGAR?

[@jengar6258]

Haha, nice touch :)

[@sloppymcfloppy5661]

You should do some jet sim.

[@jengar6258]

ab and rb for me mate ;)

[@EnricoZulu]

+Jengar ground forces Jengar, you can do it :D

[@jengar6258]

hehe, i know, but i doubt it's going to happen with the playtime i have atm ;)

[@PhantomViper49]

Dude people don’t care and will just kamikazee

[@wonderbread2190]

what distance do you prefer your convergence? sorry if this has been asked a lot

[@jengar6258]

600m for wingmounted guns, 800m for centrally mounted guns.

[@tcatcocploumhs6564]

how can I join the squad?

[@jengar6258]

By leaving an application with =NmY= Unrivaled ;)

[@tcatcocploumhs6564]

Hehe ok mate I will

[@jengar6258]

alrighty :)

[@Polaventris]

I really suck at head-ons...

[@jengar6258]

I used to be as well, but with practice have gotten good at it, alyhough there's still lots to perfect ;)

[@ruub9971]

Should read the reaction just below and try out in test flight, single mission or custom battles. And... Just 2 MG's don't work for head-ons...

[@jengar6258]

gets a bit harder with just MG's ;) but can still get that pilotsnipe ;)

[@ruub9971]

True, but if you're that good, you don't need head-ons or else you got lucky

[@jengar6258]

true, gotta practice it with cannons i'd say, if you're new to headons

[@jaek_898]

Jengar really? The outro was as long as the video! Keep it short and sweet.

[@jaek_898]

*btw the video part was great

[@jengar6258]

Cheers mate, the outro was as long as it always is, its just the vid thats a bit shorter usually in this series ;)

[@jaek_898]

Well still, imo an outro should be a quick "thanks for watching, please like comment and subscribe, have a good day". Just giving you a little feedback.

[@jengar6258]

i'll take it with me and think about it :) but its not written in stone what an outro should be ;)

[@pseudo_sapiens2461]

+Jengar I think that the outro is great, gives me enough time to press the like button, these youngins' don't know what it's like to be over 35 😉

[@IcehairsStuff]

2:38 minutes of new video? Just to voice the opposite opinion from the guy on the previous video who complained that your vids are too long, I would like to state for the record that I very much prefer the longer ones. Not saying I disliked this video, I'm sure it's great for beginners, I just wish I could double-like the other vids ;)

[@jengar6258]

Cheers Icehair :) good to see you in the comments again, hadn't seen you in a while :) in this series im keeping the vids short and sweet ;) Although there is no set time. I think about what i want to say and look for the right material, and then put it together. All the 3 episodes of ACM have been short up till now ;) maybe the next one will be a bit longer. My other series will be their normal lenght though :)