Warcraft III Reforged: Neutral Units (Outland+StarCraft+Fel Orcs) Part 3 Comparison (2002 VS 2020)

[@Starfals]

HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone :) Sorry if i made some editing mistakes, i had a few computer problem as always xD (old computer ftw)

[@midnightflare9879]

You know what, anybody can say anything, Warcraft 3 2002 is still looking good!

[@Starfals]

Yepp, it will forever look great, even better at 1080p or 1440p. The old models look very sharp at high resolutions! :P

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

They have all this age and thus character. Every model of an old,good game that was played A LOT has that. Too bad the models of reforged will never have the chance to grow like that.

[@MrMarbles0Xecution]

the new graphics are what i imagined it looked like when i was a kid

[@Starfals]

Same lol :D And now we finally got the real deal, altho.. its not even too amazing cuz we always imagined this XD

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

Same thing, mate

[@KingLich451]

lame

[@darkravenbest8970]

7:14 Honestly, WC3 mod understands what REMASTER is better. Some of models in reforge dont look like themselfs.

[@Starfals]

I keep saying that to everyone too. The mod is the real Remaster, Reforged is more like a whole new game. Its not coping WC3 very well, but its still cool to me i guess.. I just prefer the Mod more lol. Its trying to stay true to WC3.

[@HyveTheLegend]

because it's more REMAKE than REMASTER

[@gnockgnock6965]

@Stormrage It's not even World of WarCraft continuity, because the WC3 Mod uses the actual character models of WoW instead of this generic bs.

[@yuribrito9794]

Its very weird what they have done to the Draenei, i used to like them more in War3. As i can see, in reforged, they even redone their architeture

[@saimyintmyat9373]

Draenei in Wc3 didn't have their architecture

[@YasonYou]

The Marine is interesting. Mostly based on the SCR design, but a hint of the SC2 esthetic. The Zerg however are GORGEOUS! The Hydra is stuck with it's flaps open for some reason, but that Zergling is simply perfect!

[@Starfals]

The Hydra is fixed too. The new update fixed the ears. Its all great now. Warcraft 3 has better marines and zerg units than Starcraft 2. LOL

[@ThatVulcan]

@@Starfals Makes me wish there was a Zealot unit in War3 honestly, would love to see animated blades in this style.

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

@@Starfals i guess it is because more units in SC2 and totally different game,but yes,they do look better.

[@Omerizorman]

9:31 i always wonder Warcarft 3 : how does the Mother Dragon didn't attack us ? Reforged : BECASUE THEY CHAIN HER

[@Starfals]

It used to be a random red dragon making eggs, now they added the WoW lore so its more fitting :P

[@brandonl7759]

I cant get over how cool the Broken look. Honestly I'm wanting a playable race now lol

[@Starfals]

Yeah, that would be cool. In legion, they had some cool models too (in WoW) Speaking of Legion.. that should be a faction in Warcraft 3, idk why they never did that (and the Naga)

[@brandonl7759]

@@Starfals yeah that's wild that it's not, would have a ton of units to choose from

[@xinquiote9572]

Warcraft 3, The shoulderplates update.

[@Starfals]

Thats kind of how Warcraft and Wow are :P Its the Blizzard style

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

I love the new nether dragons,i know people will miss the old ones,but the new nether dragon remake is one of the best and has some kind of character with the shark heads. Lets hope they don't get forgotten.

[@Starfals]

Sure! They look great and now they got new spell effects on them as well. I just miss the old shadow bird as well. The new shark dragons are from WoW and i always loved them, i cant really complain ;p

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

@@Starfals i personally hope they get some love so that they can be considered as worthy as the old ones. They have the unique style,now what they're missing is been used so that they gain a character,a soul as some call it.

[@kacperszlapinski7436]

What i especially like about reforged is that it provides seperate models for all The units that were just recolors in classic. It provides some interesting options when using The editor, although it also makes it weird-looking when you use imported models, wich is a shame. But eh, you can always change between Classic And reforged, so that’s not really a problem.

[@Starfals]

Yeah, i just wish it was more like Starcraft or Halo. I want 1 press of a button to switch between the old and the new. Also ye, its so cool to finally see new models of units that just used the basic grunt or whatever units. Now everyone has a unique look, which is the best part of reforged imho!

[@mr.bananasman5028]

Sup Stalin

[@donkalzone6671]

The elementals are more slime than "element"

[@Starfals]

Lol ye, or jelly, especially the water ones

[@cominksuadnyana4980]

They ruin all ethereal or "abstract form" based units, yes even the Nether Dragon Don't get me wrong, the models are good, I could say they're great, but the lose the semblance of their former selves and becomes unrecognizable even though it still fits the concept of nether dragon so it's still OK, but elementals and void walker? They all just plain awful

[@billmcelgunn7819]

I swear Christmas is celebrated earlier every year

[@Starfals]

Earlier and earlier :D

[@ReinoHawate]

Every minion and their mother got a now model now. Nice.

[@Starfals]

Everyone can be a hero now. Lol.

[@zachseabass7414]

I don't like those voidwalkers. The original ones were better and more ominous without that ridiculous armor

[@Starfals]

Why would they even need armor or abs is beyond me haha

[@zachseabass7414]

@@Starfals I know right? Those are ethereal otherworldly beings. With cool looking gaunt skeletal features. Back in the day when I was messing with world editor I could use their models as Efreet unit. Now I doubt that.

[@Starfals]

@@zachseabass7414 You could always make some kind of ice cream related map and use them :P

[@cominksuadnyana4980]

They're the most awful change in the entire game I could pass Nether Dragons (tho I'll miss the old model) and actually they're great, but void (and elementals) just plain awful

[@FargothUr155]

7:07 Nobody: Classic Orc Warlock: :D

[@Starfals]

XD

[@AlesterMyersWick]

you know what the marine said, "how can i get out of this chickensh*t outfit?"

[@BX19]

wow the w3 mod thrall looks better than the reforge model 9:55 why??????

[@Starfals]

It is a good question xD Its more detailed too.

[@EvilNecroid]

4:52 whats the deal with the big dumbo ears? the old 1 looks better

[@Starfals]

They fixed them now lol. I think it was either a mistake from BLizzard or a joke. Its ok now :P

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

It was a mistake,this is how,on lore and kinda in game in SC1,the old school hydralisks attacked. The animation has the hydralisk opening these things and shooting acid and spines. Probably because the spines were the main source of dmg,Abathur evolved the hydralisks to what they are in SC2. I like both,but the OG non-remastered SC1 hydralisk is the best,it has this combo of insectoid and reptile feel the other 2 don't. The hydraslisk of reforged still opens these "ears" in the attack animation and then closes them and then repeat.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

[@Starfals]

Happy new year to you too :)

[@user-cs9ye7yt2d]

8.55 damn that modded thrall looks fiiiine!

[@Starfals]

He looks soo detailed too!

[@user-cs9ye7yt2d]

@@Starfals yes the quality is amazing and so much more realistic and the face! ooh if only the reforged one was like it!

[@knightyknight8430]

FINALLY NEW VIDEO!! fel orc = Garosh ???

[@silverknight9851]

Yes !!!

[@Starfals]

Hahah yea, big fail on blizzard

[@Starfals]

@@silverknight9851 lol u know it

[@RefractArt]

the SC2 mod for WC looks better in terms of fidelity, seems like they gave no shit about the remake.

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

There is effort put to the models and all,but there was rush from above,so they did what they could with the limited money and time if i am informed well.

[@RefractArt]

@@fotismanolopoulos1098 They've put too much effort put into making them look realistic, anatomically and texture wise... when in reality they should've looked closer to what the original game was. The same stuff they did for SC2. Idk why they took such a drastic direction.

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

@@RefractArt it was supposed to be a hole rework even for them back when the project started. When the cuts in time and money started, changing it all to a reskin,they had probably already made the most of the models,so they couldn't do much. I know they learnt what was happening before us,but it was still a giant change in their work,so, yeah,I can't blame them,at least they did their best.

[@KainsStudio]

That Doom Guard needs the flame...

[@Starfals]

Yea.. its just not the same

[@KainsStudio]

Starfals But what really make me disappointed are those elementals (bane, water...). They look like chewing gums...

[@blankabs7056]

My disappointment was beyond immeasurable when i saw it did not have the flame or armour

[@KaldonisPondo]

The comparison for the *Lost Draenei* at 3:08 is unfair. The models on the left and the right are *Lost Draenei* , while the current WoW model shown in the middle is a *Krokul* model. These are similar but technically different species. The broken and the lost are mutated *Draenei*, which are descendant from *Eredar*. the Krokuul are mutated Eredar, not Draenei, which is why they are slightly different. Eredar -> Draenai -> Broken -> Lost Ones Eredar-> Krokul.

[@Starfals]

Yea i know, but still. Some people dont know that and wanted to see them in the comparisons :) Its great that at least someone knows the differences between them!

[@WindiChilliwack]

wasn't there a fire-bat orc? I remember that a long time ago.

[@Starfals]

Yea, its gone now... sadly

[@genericgamer5137]

I wonder who decided to give the hydralysc ears

[@Starfals]

They got removed in the last update :D Good thing i recorded them before the update haha

[@marielpetterson1370]

Love the videos

[@Starfals]

thanks

[@XavionofThera]

Can you still import models in Reforged? As many models as there are, sometimes there just isn't something in-game that fits what you need.

[@Starfals]

Hmm, i'm not sure. I gotta check, but i think you still can? If you can, Reforged could be saved by the mods lol. Thats a good question btw :P

[@jallerxzl1966]

Yikes I feel really disappointed with the Warlock's new skin In the original War3 it was one of my favorites units due to his design, but now---

[@teoch5217]

Orc Warlord look like ideal Blackhand

[@Starfals]

Ye, badass model right?

[@teoch5217]

@@Starfals yes, but why green have spike in back, but fel red not? xd

[@taanielveltmann4399]

Reforge voidwalker looks a bit off imo.

[@Starfals]

The icecream walkers look a TON off :P

[@fotismanolopoulos1098]

I'd prefer WoW style ones.

[@salihkara2211]

Jus how the fel orc eats anything?

[@Starfals]

Has to go between the teeth xD

[@matthewsteele99]

hope to see a reforged version of the chaos orc ranged model

[@Starfals]

Chaos orc ranged model? Do u mean the space marine one? The fel marine? or

[@matthewsteele99]

@@Starfals no the unused fel orc model that has wolverine claws

[@hallo-mt5tx]

its weird that they only made akama look like a broken from wow, the other ones are still lost ones

[@Rodrigokdo]

9:19 I like the black knight, why didn't they do the same?

[@Starfals]

No idea but he was really cool, shame he is not in Reforged

[@skymanito]

the w3 mod looks way better :D

[@Starfals]

Yea right? :D I thought so too hahha

[@Kacpa2]

Wait till you see Starcraft 2 War3HD models especially for demons. They are spot on.

[@Animus120]

W3 mod version is made in the same style as old good W3 just looks better. W3 Reforged on the other hand went into more realistic style (like in cinematics). I like both styles and I would be happy to be able to play in both :)

[@dnpdjfdlwmejshty7947]

5:03 does hydralisk has ears? or the largest eyes just like owls??

[@rock2k14]

Am I crazy or does the Thrall WC3 Mod model look better than the reforged one? the Reforged one just isn't that good compared to all the other models 10:06

[@Starfals]

The reforged one has lower polygons for some items like the belt and gloves, and the colors of the mod look a bit better to me as well. I think the hammer also looks kind of low

[@rock2k14]

@@Starfals I find it very strange that Thrall, one of the most prominent characters in WC3's story, has one of the worst reforged models I've seen when it comes to quality

[@BFG-hv2ml]

I dont really like the wolf’s armor

[@arkguy5103]

I actually like the fel orc's design tho

[@costamcostam8961]

The orc's teeth seem very uncomfortable to have.

[@Starfals]

They have the same problem as the trolls. :P

[@discotech6178]

1:18 lol the old mushrooms are better than the new ones

[@themrfj]

"Wacraft"? The new Wario RTS? WA!

[@Starfals]

:D Where lol, did i make a mistake xD (btw Wario is awesome

[@Starfals]

LOL! I noticed it now :O I blame the new year's party :D I still got drinks in my blood and brain

[@0786RICARDO]

They should add content to this, such as broxigar and such

[@holdyourcolor-8288]

*FINALLY*

[@Starfals]

XD I will make more soon lol

[@timberwolfbrother]

Anybody else find it awkward that the Starcraft 2 models look better?

[@MrLuca12121]

Missing orc models

[@Starfals]

Like what?

[@MrLuca12121]

@@Starfals like fel grom

[@MadHarry-tk7mr]

The orcs are the best

[@Starfals]

They are soo badass! XD

[@0786RICARDO]

Also 1st snd 2nd war

[@likiliki8]

The old dark portal looks way better. How did they get it so wrong

[@Starfals]

They even got the hair of many elf heroes wrong XD When they got box art of them and how they should look...

[@Nat-uu3zn]

how is there starcraft in warcraft

[@Starfals]

Haha, watch my latest video if you wanna see how they even compare to each other and fight the zerg (in both Starcraft+WC3+MOD)

[@user-cs9ye7yt2d]

8.53 what unit is that on right side? that's not a regular grunt

[@MxIxTxC]

Fel orfs don't seem red enough

[@kitianarmada8487]

Where is the Agility tome?

[@joshuataylor9016]

What is the WC3 mod pictured in some of the screenshots?

[@simonwilliamnoelmurray9179]

Such a shame that the graphics are so great but they fucked up literally everyhting els

[@feitopuns]

where's the chaos blademaster

[@Starfals]

He wasn't in the game when i made the video back then :P

[@arkguy5103]

Wtf the dranei looks like an octopus🐙

[@Gman18]

Almost every unit got steroids LOL

[@Starfals]

Keep ur hands off the units with abs Gman, you already got Gordon and Shephard !

[@izuraile465]

Why that hydralisk like thaat

[@ffrai3094]

why's there starcraft characters in warcraft?

[@Starfals]

Easter Eggs i guess, they love to put those in their RTS engines. WC3 had Starcraft units, and Starcraft 2 has Warcraft 3 units.

[@TitanDraugen]

Thrall WC3 mod looks better than Reforged. :P

[@Starfals]

Hah yea, because its from Heroes of the storm :P

[@drakolobo]

reforged>wow

[@CaboWojak91]

how can i download and install that mod ??

[@jovanvladetic8772]

Black wolf? *NAH ITS WHITE NOW* (Thrall)

[@Starfals]

Lol ye, totally new now xD

[@jovanvladetic8772]

@@Starfals can I have a heart please? :3

[@DrOn-bz4bj]

what is BGM name bro??

[@gvi_never]

to be honest, its looks awesome at close look but you at birdsview xD

[@locuscorvuswed336]

How marines enter to warcraft 3? 😮

[@dragonflipsi]

warcraft 3 mod - Thrall looks better then remake

[@Starfals]

Finally someone else agree about Thrall and the mod :P

[@yuma850]

5:36 Chogath??

[@Starfals]

What is chogath lol

[@yuma850]

@@Starfals chogath from League of Legends

[@SMILE53335]

@@yuma850 Chogath looks quite similar to zerglings

[@devpashupati9168]

@@SMILE53335 check the character The Violator from Spawn. It's where Riot got the design inspiration from.

[@SMILE53335]

@@devpashupati9168 it's been three years. THREE years.

[@BeegBWolf]

There's a Warcraft 3 Mod???!

[@Starfals]

Yep, and it does a good job to make everything look HD and better textured.

[@eucantonagorillaz3476]

Units names?...

[@Starfals]

Do you want unit names for every unit or what ? :P I dont get it

[@eucantonagorillaz3476]

@@Starfals every names

[@eucantonagorillaz3476]

Plz :)

[@Starfals]

@@eucantonagorillaz3476 Fel orcs, fel peons, thrall, nether drakes, fel orc rider, marine, zergling and some others that i forgot lol

[@eucantonagorillaz3476]

@@Starfals and "Red samuro"?

[@huskarang3351]

Wow doomguard are better

[@Starfals]

Yep, and they look more like doomguards

[@johr7534]

El thrall del War Craft mod está un poco mejor que el de reforged por lo demás el Reforged les gana todo aunque no me gustó mucho el venomancer parecen dos vaginas no sé qué wuevadas le ponen a los costados si le quitarán ello en fin no es yo no hago los diseños no me quejo espero el dota reforged con unreal engine 4 con ansias

[@Morg8685]

4:04 that shit right there, make an fps of starcraft already and name it skippidy something doesn't matter but make starcraft into an fps game like BF 2142 but without zergs and protos, no need for those kinds of gimmicks