WARDEN VS SLEDGER VS GLADIATOR | TDS ROBLOX

in tower defense simulator there are now 3 melee towers that are up for debate, i end it in this informative video..
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[@GDILIVES]

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[@Coolperson2337]

Ok

[@7.42am]

fellas

[@TabForReal]

John heart my comment

[@elenarosales145]

Ok

[@YesYez]

Real

[@indraa0001]

The only thing Warden lacks is splash damage. However, seeing how well it chunks minibosses with Call to Arms, splash damage would be too overpowered.

[@wadakipvp]

Warden is more like sledger, but different.

[@Polengue]

@@wadakipvp more like eletroshocker but melee

[@timtan852]

@@Polengue just built different

[@JustinePro_Animator]

Each event or update it just frys my pc faster

[@TVWomanE]

@@Polengue ye

[@Julius72958]

The 3 are quite balanced , since u could see uses for each , and i like that . We just need a buff / rework for slasher and itd be perfect ( maybe a dot effect that does more dmg the more hp the target got to make it a boss shredder )

[@lordoffrost6264]

good idea

[@gamerits]

Give slasher 10 more dmg at max, bleeding effect which damages enemy at time and hes good.

[@kurrent5848]

Yeah, I think making a zombie not barely able to move an inch is perfectly balanced 🍵

[@colourfungus]

@@kurrent5848 they cost a lot though to upgrade

[@_Meta.]

@@kurrent5848 -Upgrade Cost -Limited splash damage

[@Frixworks]

Can definitely see that Warden is good for bosses, Gladiator is good for crowd control, and Sledger is pretty balanced, and more centered around support.

[@omgdin]

sledger has splash damage and freeze so It's good for crowd control too

[@jayxd9177]

gladiator is good for early game mid game and late game and it cannnot be stunned it’s also unfair for gladiator because it’s ledger and warden can stop enemies

[@omgdin]

@@jayxd9177 wdym glad has been meta in tds for a long time, it's very fair to compare it

[@jayxd9177]

@@omgdin I never said it was unfair to comepare gladiator. I said it’s unfair for gladiator

[@omgdin]

@@jayxd9177 glad is still op

[@raymond3663_]

0:35 ok, john might need some night vision goggles now

[@9uke]

10 most epic anime battles of all time:

[@UnIdiotConUnChannel]

Stop posting about B A L L E R

[@hardiecuizons]

@@UnIdiotConUnChannel Why does baller matter.

[@sen8078]

@@UnIdiotConUnChannel you will never be *BALLIN*

[@victorsanchez8568]

@@UnIdiotConUnChannel I loved it when he said it's balling time and proceeded to ball all over his enemies

[@tibeok8498]

Baller

[@Aguywhopissesoffpeople217]

"Talk about police brutality" My guy John still remembers criminality with tank fish

[@webIQ162]

He was probably the best slaughter they had lol

[@paksimeon236]

I would say that sledger is good for when you are playing with about 2-3 ppl including yourself because the max limit is 20. Sledger taking those 6 slots are fine. Plus, its freeze and debuff makes it a great support unit for other towers to do more damage.

[@goldrushgaming7390]

I love how a warden is supposed to be able too deal with alot of prisoners, but its horrible with tds in crowd control

[@nightstreakgaming]

Lmao

[@darrentan872]

Tds is a game with no real life logic so yea

[@goldrushgaming7390]

@@darrentan872 ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@adamridza977]

wdqdqw

[@bonieesdiosyteexplicoporqu9835]

the warden is supposed to be a security guard

[@NoNameTaken117]

I find it funny that warden was based off of riot control armor which deals with crowd control and Gladiator deals with only 1 person which is based off Roman Gladiators (Most of the time) in combat but tds flips the roles!

[@NoahPickle]

Thats because in real life a sword can damage multiple people in one swing if they are in close proximity to one another, but on the other hand a baton can only hit one person at a time, it isnt like the baton can chain electricity through its opponents and hit multiple people in one blow.

[@ezzcoolong3267]

@@NoahPickle max level: WAT DA F*CK DO U MEAN I HABE ELECTRICITY IN ME S P L A S H D M G N O W

[@rafaelalvesoliveira245]

@@ezzcoolong3267 i mean half life has stun sticks Ans stun sticks cant hit multiple people And the same go for tasers im real life

[@PosterityIslesNews]

swords aren't meant to hit two people at a time either, they're too heavy and lost speed after hitting the first one

[@ezzcoolong3267]

@@rafaelalvesoliveira245 its literally sarcasm i already know that

[@tackyinbention6248]

I think that sledger actually performs better as a support tower because of its freeze and placement limit. Put them in key areas that alot of towers can cover the freeze will allow other towers to attack them for longer. I'd say its better at stunning because of the splash damage since you will rarely encounter one boss on its own. I'm not saying warden is bad, in fact I use it with the sledger in my loadout, it's just that they have different uses and thrive in different situations

[@ActuallyBren]

true

[@dfornuggetthe3rd792]

Hmmm what about Warden or Sledger that they're two does stunlocks very well?

[@Drago20056]

I can say accel. And sledger is a key to survive the event.

[@dfornuggetthe3rd792]

@@Drago20056 sledger isnt a key to triumph an event... Accel is, sledger is just a (primarily)support tower

[@playfulwaddles]

@@dfornuggetthe3rd792 your very stupid there was this round in pizza party golden minigunners only and supports the one with sledgers tho carried hard and was 3 minutes faster IMAGINE THINKING SLEDGER DOES NOT CARRY IM EVENTS

[@stefandiacenco]

warden is only held back by the phasing out of mysteries for the nimble Breakers. this is fixed by getting an accelerator around the time they first come out or just bringing along crowd control to help it, though

[@Rexya_Store]

Yay Thanks For Information :>

[@TheGodOfLag]

Warden’s damage is similar to executioner’s damage at max level, fire rate is kind of decent, but it’s problem is it cannot do splash unlike the gladiator and sledger. But overall it’s a decent tower

[@molten8777]

just use gladiator and warden that would be a op combo

[@lordoffrost6264]

better at single enemys

[@kakunz9352]

It was better that it was without splash damage because otherwise it would be very op removing the uses to the glad and the sledger

[@somebodyiguess7611]

good tower cut all the way to decent just because of splash

[@Scamingo]

if it could do splash i swear it would be WAYY too overpowered

[@XGplays]

i like how wardens final upgrade is named "riot control" but it cant even kill a small group of enemies

[@microphon1549]

riot control not crowd smasher

[@timmcdonald1477]

Yo I love ur vids amazing

[@thebigpotate]

Warden is essentially a good mix between dps and speed. Bad at crowd control but pair him with a glad or two and basically nothing will get past

[@AdrianShephard_5]

Maybe a few breakers but support it with some firepower

[@ggappqw711]

Johns fresh content is fresher than air

[@xdankmemer6615]

if you live in china that doesn't say a lot

[@thefreshnoob7832]

John you can do that test with the gladiator again when they add the hotbar keys so you can activate them easier

[@user-jm3pg8uo2q]

4:05 "You call this police brutality, we call this a difficulty tweak"

[@robloxplayer0003]

The thing is, gladiator isn't meant to be a boss killer. It is meant to carry early so the others can farm to something bigger.

[@reudu]

8:03 I thought it was an ad 💀

[@s-tran69]

epik drawings :0

[@fulIonnow]

the baton tower is lowkey a mix of glad and sledger, it both stuns. does high damage and a fair attack speed

[@rapter_xd2569]

John making fun of the marshlands logo at the start was hilarious

[@alexanderoregon2816]

the thing about warden is it costs more in game than sledger and also i think that the upgrades cost more to and the stun dosnt last as long as the sledgers freeze atleast i think also if you place 6 level 3 4 or 5 sledgers as the start of the map like you would do with glad the sledger carry all the way up to wave 40 only thing you would have to worry about is hiddens but they can hit hiddens if they try to hide a not hidden enimy they can sometimes hit hiddens but if you pute a few wardens at the start unlike sledger they dont spawn kill i would say sledge and warden are around the same amount of good they would prob go on the same level of a teir list

[@littleman4925]

Even with no splash damage, it can be used in early game, mid game, and late game, early being for damage, mid being for damage/stuns and late game being stun bait and stun supports, and damage. Glad can reflect stuns but cannot stun himself, so he isn't a support tower, and sledger is able to do good damage but has a placement limit and can't reflect stuns. So obviously the winner is slasher

[@Grindsaw]

LMAO I DID NOT EXPECT THAT

[@Imperium262]

WHERE THE HECK DID SLASHER COME FROM WHAT

[@itzdaboi6464]

Wtf 😳

[@ceplus6491]

Still trash for Late this Tower it's for Early/Mid not it's for be used to Late

[@Imperium262]

@@ceplus6491 u talking about warden or slasher

[@Nightfall4ik]

Lol, the thing when John laughs, this sounds legendary!

[@BaconBroOfficial]

i just love the reaction you get when you get mad 🤣🤣

[@diamondguy-xs4lg]

I feel like the gladiator is great for dealing groups of small enemies, the warden and the sledger are better off taking down minor bosses

[@NoahPickle]

I would say that warden isn’t just good for minor bosses but major ones as well such as the minions of the fallen king and molten boss, plus warden is similar in terms of support with sledger but has no placement limit, does more damage and has better range and can therefore be more effective, especially if you are using something like accel and only a few wardens at the entrance.

[@diamondguy-xs4lg]

@@NoahPickle what I mean minor bosses like the normal boss and slow boss

[@webIQ162]

​@@diamondguy-xs4lg nah wardens could take down fallen gaurdians and major bosses like molten boss. SLEDGER could take down minor bosses like tank

[@PosterityIslesNews]

@@NoahPickle actually warden is perfect for minor bosses since it has both dps AND stun

[@MentallyInsaneMobileIAPlayer]

@@NoahPickle lies. Sledger only has a placement of six. Final bosses are weak to sledgers, this may also affect the warden but as you can see warden’s damage at max is compared more than sledgers. Plus at max level the warden can block stuns. If you say that its expensive. You may be right. But you have plenty of time to max it before facing the boss if you have farm. But at this rate everyone will have farms if they are level 25+. Plus if your solo 3 level 2 wardens handle a normal boss maybe even two. And since wardens get hd over level 1. And your solo. You get plenty of time to get alot of level 2 wardens because it has no limit and solo a hidden boss. Sledgers early game is really trash since you get no access to level 3 yet.

[@KingN00B1]

In my opinion, bosses should at least receive a 1/4 or a 1/2 of the stun time compared to regular enemies. Maybe even an 8th of the stun time if the tower is op.

[@Honk7]

I can see that balance out warden a bit

[@Mayorascat31]

nah warden is ok

[@swovca]

@@Honk7 I'm think I'm saw your comment in shorts video

[@colourfungus]

he’s fine don’t give them ideas

[@pizza8725]

Or maybe be slowed down a bit

[@eduardb2397]

John i have an idea for tdx when a tower has an ability and u placed like 30 of them u have a button that acctivates all theyre ability

[@TotallyFunWasTaken]

Now with the archer buff/rework and all the new rebalances whatever you wanna call it i have hope for Slasher, Freezer, commando and all the rest of the towers. Here is my theory, they will do just like archer, give it a buff or a rework, make it good and then sell it as a gamepass for money. Its just business

[@mistyeggs7898]

I feel like 3 of these towets have their own specific uses. Gladiator is great for speedruns and early game. Warden is good for high health mini bosses (tank) and sledger is good for mini bosses and for support. Overall though I like gladiator more because it fits in with basically most loadouts.

[@akibmuaz3519]

Sledger is also is good for energy immunity enemies quick tanky enmmies like error glitch I've seen it able to stop a a few all these towers are fairly balanced glad is definitely the best speedrun tower warden is best late game sled good for mid late it sucks in early cuz it doesn't have the freeze and a slower than lvl 4 glad is gof mid-early warden is to expensive to be be in early

[@mydogghost]

@@akibmuaz3519 warden isn’t that expensive

[@akibmuaz3519]

@@mydogghost i said in the early game it is because your paying 1250 cash for a single upgrade which by the way you won't get much money unless you farmed and we are only talking abou without farms

[@mydogghost]

@@akibmuaz3519 yeah I mean fair enough

[@Phan7055]

people seem to forget that sledger is more support, when its leveled up frozen enemies take 2x dmg from all sources. making it undeniably better than the other 2

[@oskaei8991]

frozen enemies dont take x2 dmg, they take x2 dmg from other sledgers have you ever used sledger?

[@mydogghost]

The 2x damage is for only sledger and warden critical hits do more damage than sledger hitting frozen enemies

[@criedgaming5106]

If sledger made enemies take 2X damage from all sources then you would see people use it 24/7

[@nokonusjox9474]

sledger has better crowd controll then all of these, helps alot in mid-game and late game, just not the final boss thats all.

[@FalseTrueDenial]

Thumbnail is sooo AWESOME 😊😊

[@JakkyxIsDeadInside]

I love the custom Artwork

[@PizzaChild]

0:23 LMAO

[@GreysonTube]

He predicted the submarine incident

[@M3SSRB]

​@@GreysonTubeLMAO

[@Paraven]

You can place more wardens than most other towers, giving it a huge advantage.

[@theonewhocaredandasked9126]

ok but ur not going to plsce 16 wardens

[@Paraven]

lol everyone does, change my mind

[@natix1_]

@@theonewhocaredandasked9126 i placed 20 wardens and DJ's and i defeated the molten boss lol

[@Zhiowe]

love the editing

[@HectorDu84]

fun fact : if you use the commander's ability and the gladiator's ability, it can give +90% firerate to the gladiator which almost double the gladiator's firerate

[@boggersegg6237]

Gladiator: ment for crowds of zombies Sledger: ment for dps and small crowds Warden: ment for high dps

[@error404stan]

sled is meant for dps and alot of stuns for fast enemies

[@boggersegg6237]

exactly

[@noobmaster1484]

Also warden is meant sutns ( ik what i am writting )

[@NoahPickle]

Not to mention warden is also for stun

[@boggersegg6237]

the stuns do help with the dps part

[@jasmo3008]

4:03 I’m crying

[@aqeelsyahidan1833]

So we got some categorised melee towers. Freeze(sledger), crowd(gladiator), and single-target(warden). There is also melee+ranged(slasher/shredder).

[@alexourbe4495]

i like the noob vs pro in roblox thank you john

[@oskaei8991]

honestly the first time i used warden i was surprised with its power you can easily solo molten with farm commander and dj on alot of maps i presume (i tested with necropolis *the new map* and rocket arena) its honestly very fun to use and it doesnt cost much at early levels. i'll agree that sledger is better for support and CC but warden is just better imo

[@wolfwerewolf8861]

If only the military Base had a upgrade that either makes them spawns faster or 2x the cars

[@wolfwerewolf8861]

Oh and also warden is a amazing tower brings back the fallen memories but if only if would hit up to 2-4 enemies (I think that'll be to overpowered ._.)

[@kermit9866]

Lvl 1:

[@greg0rio]

@@kermit9866 FOR REAL

[@vedantkiragi_1067]

I have an idea, try making a deck with infinite stun, accels and commander

[@gingergamerza3611]

if you think about it the warden vs molten boss is hilarious because its just a bunch of police with shields and electric batons fighting a hell king and some random commander saying "YOU CAN DO IT I BELIVE"

[@heinzketchup5608]

1:14 you only need 2 lvl 0 gladiators

[@gabloyola8369]

3:40 20 max wardens can solo molten using 40 on grave digger is just overkill 😭

[@ItsartoTV]

20 is literally limit of warden

[@bulldozer281]

Added con for warden For order to buy and use you need to beat Pizza Party map (insane) and have 4,000 coins

[@Adamiaq]

Am glad ur militan skin is back as a code 😊

[@justanaveragegamer5761]

Warden wouldve been so op if it was like glad where it can hit multiple at once than just one.

[@molten8777]

it would have been wayyy better than glad

[@pooppee8146]

@@molten8777 wdym it’s better than glad, even John roblox says so

[@noobmaster1484]

Imagine a tower that is good for crowd control and also shred bosses like the are nothing while being cheap, that would be insanely op.

[@lindawillen06]

@@pooppee8146 so because john said it means that its automaticly meta?, they do different things like warden sucks early while glad is extremely good

[@NoahPickle]

that would completely ruin the game because then low levels would be making light work of every game mode and the game would be too easy. For a tower of that strength you would have to be a dedicated and extremely good player, perhaps level 250 and above.

[@Dingus20]

7:15 💀💀

[@taekung0395]

I love when john laughs It entertains me

[@HectorDu84]

you should try to fill an entire map with wardens and try to see if they can beat every bosses

[@Arvl.]

0:18 lmao

[@SaserMaster]

Damn john damn 0:42

[@O5agent]

The warden, the combination of sledger and gladiator. Warden can block stuns and stuns zombies while doing a lot of damage. Kinda nice

[@Combine_guy]

can you make a video whit only melee towers

[@nokonusjox9474]

Gladitator, Is more early game and a filler in tower Sledger is more support and best around Mid game and useable in late game to controll hordes and maybe spawns from bosses like molten boss Warden is mid-late game and probably I would say the worst. warden may have better dps and all but you never use melee towers as actual dps. Glad and sledger are way better for support as glad helps early and sledger once you can get the money helps with crowd controll and high hp enemys

[@natix1_]

i managed to kill molten boss with 20 maxed out wardens and DJ

[@sonicslaststraw3048]

Ok but what if you actually do use melee towers as dps

[@patchesgaming1349]

This is what I call police brutality 2:09

[@dxzakxnbxrtxn]

I've played TDS since 2019, Since the SFOTH event and never actually got ANY special tower, but the hunter that was from a code but then became ruined in the umbra event.

[@femurbreaker0]

same I didn’t get any event tower till 2020

[@rickynelsoncartoneros5137]

imagine warden can be used for hardcore or for events (probably not hardcore but maybe used in event also combine sledger and warden and u has an op stun abuse gang)

[@amogussussybaka8680]

8:25 no hidden detection

[@miguelcorbage7862]

Sledger can dectect hiddens because of his splash damage

[@tackyinbention6248]

True, I use sledger alot but don't rely on the splash for hiddens because it requires a non hidden enemy to be next to it. You can increase your chances by placing them so that they hit overlapping areas set one targeting to last and some to closest etc. But even then I wouldn't count on it to deal with hiddens, your other towers will do that. Sledger works great as a support tower rather than a dps tower

[@NoahPickle]

warden unlocks hidden detection at level one, where it is already doing 8 damage per hit. Imma say it once, warden is better overall given it has more qualities than both gladiator and sledger

[@InemantWasNotTaken]

@@NoahPickle just because it has hidden detection at level one doesn’t mean it’s better, thats like saying accelerator is better than ranger because it has hidden detection

[@sevenless2143]

@@InemantWasNotTaken Accel is better though lol

[@GuitarHero7229]

the thing is those melee towers who can freeze or stun an enemy = big W no matters about the dps

[@NinjaEvanYT]

In my opinion, gladiator is a good tower early game. It maxed can last you up to slow boss if you get good rng from mysteries. And glad spam can last you up to speedy boss.

[@noobmaster1484]

Warden is average for early game in molten since a lv 0 warden can carries you to wave 4 if you place it at the corner

[@NinjaEvanYT]

@@noobmaster1484 True, however gladiator does splash damage so it is way more effective, even with a commander so it can deal damage faster.

[@oskaei8991]

warden is insane for early game if you just farm and place a 2nd one, bosses arnt a problem against multiple wardens furthermore the beginning upgrades are cheap as hell (350$, 1250$ is affordable for early-ish game)

[@Navora_]

Warden Is Bad For Swarms But Bosses, Hes Good

[@NoahPickle]

Once you get to late mid game and late game wardens crowd control is fine due to its fast hit rate, stun ability and its wide range, which balances the crowd control out. Although i will always say glad is best for crowd control, it gets to a point where it isnt really a weakness for warden, just not an advantage like it is for gladiator.

[@oskaei8991]

warden can easilly CC if you place multiple

[@Sleep_true]

Btw, gladiator lost cuz he is normally used in all of the first waves It’s good on wave 1 to 25 While the sledger is a mid game Basically 25 to 30, it stuns enemies so it’s good for slow bosses The warden won cuz he can stun, he does 80 damage, he swings his melee quite fast , he stuns and he can’t get stunned.

[@astrocasserole]

Bro really referenced his love life.. Damn bro, that was funny as hell

[@sirchomp2046]

The warden tower at max kinda looks like a certain tower from tower battles

[@RealKunai]

what is this. 1:59

[@ItsartoTV]

Commander and DJ but realistic

[@masonpeterson9113]

Wardens only downside is early game defense compared to gladiator. It is more expensive and may be harder for speedruns. Other than that, warden is sick.

[@A_Forgotten_Memory]

If u just want to farm without any strat wardem is better since it can solo molten fast (And you don't need to go one per one to active ability since it has no ability at all) If it had a activable ability it would prob be better than gladiator

[@eyes9098]

That moment when you raged was kind of funny

[@mrfunni1858]

“Talk about police brutality” - John Robloz

[@CyberCyns]

If you’re playing casually, and not speedrunning, warden is better. For support, Sledge is probably the best, even with wardens insane stuns. For speedrunning, and cost efficiency, glad wins. So, to sum it up, Generally: Warden Support: Sledger Speedrunning: Gladiator

[@mattxplays]

8:40 cap glad is OP

[@SnannyYT]

Only if youre into speedrunning

[@Knoghtlol]

If you translate it it will be cap slippery is on ✋💀

[@oIIified]

I see some inspiration from TankFish, but nonetheless, great vid

[@AquaVerb]

did you know that if the warden gets stunned twice in a very short period it will actually be stunned in other words, warden has a cooldown for its shield.

[@dartdew]

i think john just discovered a new fallen strat. loadout: dj, commander, farm, warden, accel with that loadout, if you do it right, you could beat fallen

[@MrLaggius]

I love when John gets pissed for a very very very simple thing and immediately goes *"THIS GAME SUUUCKS!!"*

[@genes3587]

those drawings are masterpieces

[@bobmads4679]

If you stack 3 sledges in the start of the map on each side and they are maxed the enemy’s can barely get out if you have stuff like mini or accel

[@rohansubba6882]

Man pulled out the doctor hand writing at the end

[@shrub4358]

7:15 i honestly hate when that happens because bosses have such a FATASS hit box that it covers the tower itself and ur unable to use the ability

[@skoop2602]

“much like my loved wife it is garbage” that got me laughing LMFAO

[@user-bn5nm4pl7q]

Sledger in your drawing looks bussin

[@spedracer1667]

hey john roblox. along time you havent played towar battles. i wonder you can with tower battles no admin command.

[@doomslayer3651]

This reminds me of those minecraft vs vids

[@michellesullivan7541]

I never realized that spamming wardens mid game is a stray until now

[@sarahyoung8302]

VIDEO IDEA try and win molten or fallen with only commanders

[@AdawaShiwani]

john really got the doctor hand writing

[@Robert_the_robert]

Slasher: *leaves out of the room crying with legs*

[@jobrafl8268]

Jonh can you do a full melee loadout and defeat fallen?

[@robugs]

Below really brings Enforcer from tower battles to the world of tower defense simulator. And i can really say Below would nerf Warden in next update

[@InsertSomethingHere633]

Lmao the thumbnail looks like one of those NOOB VS PRO VS GOD Minecraft videos

[@HapsterRB]

John this is biggest question on you? the TDX Can also play at Mobile or only pc

[@jamino9288]

if you spam gladiator all around spawn and not in 1 line it can eradicate bosses and high hp zombies

[@TheRandomSomeone]

John, do which one is better for early warden or glad or sledger, super curious, on normal, molten, and fallen when and if u can.

[@edric9137]

I don't have gladiator but with what I know, early game it's gladiator, because splash damage and fast firerate (gladiator is prob cheap idk) he also has hidden detection, which sledger fails at hidden detection and firerate, warden fails at well splash damage I don't really think warden fails at firerate

[@lindawillen06]

@@edric9137 gladiator only costs 200 to place with its 1st few upgrades being 300 or 350 (i forgot) and hd being 500