Wardless loop Inquisitor - part 2

[@fearstreak7462]

I'm literally leveling a trickster right now in preparation of doing palsteron's beacon of madness ward set up. I'm hoping to copy it and set up something that can run without Nimis to save on budget. Doing the heartbound loop set up off one ring because of the inc dam taken; that sounds like incredibly free tech to include.

[@carlosporrais]

To deal with dot they use dissolution of the flesh

[@xTobsecretx]

“How do you deal with DoTs?” “That’s the neat part, you don’t” At least the palsteron version just makes use of ailment avoidance and burning ground immunity but any other ground degens fuck you up.

[@poopbutts]

Bummer, I was hoping there was something I missed. I guess on the looper version you have MoM which should help that issue quite a bit and you potentially have things like the 10% less dot taken mastery or/and Arakali pantheon.

[@xTobsecretx]

@@poopbutts I’m sure there’s a way to do it but the question is whether it’s worth it bc all recovery options depend on you hitting something (leech, lgoh, watcher’s eye mods) so e.g. in the shaper or exarch when you are at risk of dying to degens no mobs are available to be hit.

[@poopbutts]

@@xTobsecretx I think I mostly agree with you that is probably isn't worth the investment since it doesn't really help the worst case scenario. Probably just need to play cautious around dots I guess

[@MacrosoftxP]

Wasting touch multiplies the final healing per second by .1 (90% reduction) so its not zero recovery per second. I feel like the math still works out for recoup honestly, if you're taking enough damage to trigger a level 21/20 cwdt (3222) and have 27% cdr (5 triggers per second) then it works out like this: 3222 x 5 (damage taken per second) x 4 (ramped recoup stack) x (whatever % recoup you have) x .1 (ramped wasting touch). 6% recoup is almost 400 life per second with those numbers, 30% recoup is 1900 life per second, that's more than enough to either mitigate or move out of the danger zone. Doesn't seem like that big of an investment.

[@poopbutts]

@@MacrosoftxP that is actually a really good point. Recoup probably is the play. Idk what was going on with my brain where I kept thinking everything was 99% from embrace madness when it is 90% at 10 stacks. What is really sick is since you mitigate so much you can effectively add more recoup at the cost of sockets. Like socketing in skeletons and forbidden rite add tons of self damage.

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

He's cooking!

[@logost5786]

why didn't use stassi prison for fix recoup ?

[@poopbutts]

@@logost5786 so initially it was price. But then after actually playing with it having a low life total makes a lot of things sketchy like proximity shields and the executioner mod which makes the unsafe feeling of the build even worse . This build is a tough shell to crack. I certainly didn't figure out here, sadly

[@asdfghjsdfgg1841]

Temporal bubble shields are way too common T.T

[@poopbutts]

Right!? I didn't realize how common that mod on rares were until I played this

[@boyinpyjamas]

get progenesis hp will spike less

[@poopbutts]

True true, progenesis would mostly solve that while it is up. To hard solve it I think I would just need more levels so I can get more raw life. Like at around 8.5k-9k life it should be comfortable

[@boyinpyjamas]

@@poopbutts yeah. i played around with somewhat similar build. V1 was pure life. Felt like need too much life recoup stat . V2 did mom was much easier on recoup stat. I did it last league. This league would definetly go progenesis life based if did it again.