Warframe - Tower Heist: A Rogue-lite Concept

[@TriburosOnline]

By the by, felt like I should clarify a comment I made: When I was referring to Dog Days and talking about it's 'Challenge', I shoulda specified that I wasn't suggesting that *completing the event* was challenging. Gods no- chances are, none of you failed a single run of the event. It was just as easy as something like the Index, if not more-so. Rather, what I was driving at was that it was much easier to get personally Game Over'd by a mob in that event than any other area of the game of a similar level range of 30-40. And that was largely down to how much they scaled back variables. Of course, it didn't matter since revives weren't a thing to worry about. But it was still something I was noticing happen to a lot of players, assuming they weren't just in a little idle hole farming the event. Felt like I should make that more evident, lest people look at me like "Y... You thought it was challenging to win a watta fight?" Anywho, cheers for watching as always, sorry once again for such a long delay between uploads, and I want to squeeze each and every one of your cheeks

[@corneggs6803]

Ah yes by the by

[@bnashtay2278]

HI MISTER!!!!!

[@bnashtay2278]

Yes I hear that Giorno theme you JoJo reference :>

[@Missing-Ace]

Is your real name Darren

[@Brawlatron]

I hope you mean our faces...

[@MrWarframeGuy]

i can't wait to DE implement this and every 5 floors you get 5k creds

[@Paradox1012]

50 kuva .kek

[@dankmemes8254]

And good ol endo

[@birbman5186]

Oh yes, the thought of getting 100 endo makes me pitch a tent :v

[@domixd7666]

S T O N K S

[@borisshnitkov7600]

I am already erect.

[@Sabuuchi]

"I don't want to isolate a huge chunk of people here." COVID-19 has entered the chat.

[@weihao883]

Kick covid-19 outta the chat. Boom. No more covid-19

[@JPG.01]

Considering it's spam happiness, kickbot will handle that.

[@murilocandidoscaramal1798]

I literally read this comment when he said that, no joke

[@queen_lillith5]

Imagine: You’re at Tennocon. It’s been fun so far and Rebecca is once again doing Jojo cosplay. Then you hear her say, “So a KZbinr named Triburos had a pretty good idea for a game mode...”

[@synphilia4776]

Don't give me hope

[@Gnurklesquimp]

@@synphilia4776 Visualizing it actually made me upset

[@AboutMe744]

Synphilia that’s why they cancelled it.

[@jackthejedi6540]

Don't do that, don't give me hope

[@Tivallia9010]

If they pulled that shit, I would be dying on the floor happy.

[@ThatBeePerson]

It looks like this concept is coming true with duviri, I wasn't 100% sure but it looks like yeah, Duviri will be VERY similar to this

[@owmylehg7811]

I was gonna comment about Duviri, it seems very similar to what he described.

[@jadecelistreia8874]

Was about to say 3-4ish years later we now have The circuit

[@yasirabdulhakeem]

So... You're telling me... That we can _finally_ have a raid against the *God forsaken Unum Tower*

[@jaygod9949]

That's just wow

[@robotizedcyborg7788]

Hot.

[@ThBlueSalamander]

UTZ DISGOSTING OUTWORLDERS

[@SaiKisaragi]

imagine having raids This was posted by- *RAID SHADOW LEGENDS*

[@slynthehedgehog8061]

F***, we had the same idea.

[@nidavelliir]

This concept sounds like a lot of fun, which is why DE will never implement it

[@purplehatter550]

Nah they probably will- We just have to hound them again and again

[@mobiuscoreindustries]

I don't think the "DE don't allow for fun" are real, however, they are VERY scared of making a wrong move and having the comunity attatch themselves to something that thye can't easily get rid off. Stuff like the kuva nukor, catchmoon, maiming strike and the like. When the comunity attatch themselves to these tools, because they are so much stronger than any other option, the only way DE can get rid of it is to disapoint everyone and nerf it. I say that is very reasonable, however the issue they have is being too easily skewed by stats. Sure, when 40% of the entire playerbase uses a single secondary weapon, there IS something to be fixed, but for example nerfing subsumed abilities based on how many people want to use them BEFORE release is a big problem. I still stand by the fact that for a PvE game, as long as the item is performing as expected and is not in a case of wild overabuse, things can afford to be a bit too strong or a bit too weak. A concept like tower heist would be great for DE to implement, simply because it will reward people from gathering a lot of stuff, which will make it aviable in the tower, and as long as the rewards are something that players will want to aquire regularely (like large ammount of endo, boosters, radiant relics, rare items, ect) they WILL keep using it. One of the mistake of things like open worlds and steel path is that they offer a set amount of items, many of them being enticing to at least some, but then once all items of value are obtained, people simply stop going to the open worlds and doing the activities. Eidelons offer arcanes which people crave, but the activity itself being a massive gear check tend to dissuade people away from it for good reasons. Honestly, if tower heist offered an experience similar to the old void key system, where you would work in the base game to obtain entry, and then attempt to reap as many rewards is possible out of a single run, it would incentivise people to play EVERY part of the game, even return to unused things, in order to increase their chances once inside the tower. It would drive the demand of things like rivens and arcanes upward as people would want as many aviable to skewer the drop chances in their favor, and overall lead to an increase in profit on DE's part, while aslo making use of the more "unused" assets like the TON of special enemy types and minibosses that almost never show up and are lost in the codex forever.

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

That’s true

[@skuxx4670]

Made me chuckle

[@musey2694]

You have to have *insert hard item to farm and that you definetly do not have*

[@AshisogiTenno]

Yes. Imagined for a moment this was an addition today.... Id already know I'd be up all night HAVING FUN with clanies. Something, ANYTHING along these lines would be a good step in the right direction.

[@extreamenoobnoby8830]

Dude, I used to watch your videos and I hope you make how not to be a s*it Grendel cuz your vids are really funny

[@Nightshy12126]

@@extreamenoobnoby8830 Have you seen his thoughts on grendel mate?

[@Nightshy12126]

Also loved the real talk video

[@extreamenoobnoby8830]

No

[@extreamenoobnoby8830]

well im dumb

[@boredom-senpai2963]

Honestly, as a veteran myself, I would love this idea to come into Warframe. This would probably be the best mission type for end-game players that is waiting on new content.

[@Blitz_IngaMCZ]

So, Warframe: Enter the Gungeon + Actually using your brain cells. Also, Randomizer. Sounds pretty good

[@edaenotitia9021]

DE lovs sum randomizer

[@dankmemes8254]

Enter the

[@dankmemes8254]

Unum

[@easy2bcheesy149]

Enter the gungeon is already a randomizer

[@635574]

Also full map vacuum and all loot unlockedd is shared in squad who have it ranked 30.

[@SRG202_]

Everyone: talks about Trib's new concept Me:"Is that 8-bit Giorno's theme?"

[@Jd-ii3yb]

I noticed too

[@МаксимЗенков-н5я]

i am not alone apparently

[@NayrAnur]

Also 8 bit Bloody Stream

[@thewarriorcat3271]

I know right?!

[@meepablade3806]

it was hard NOT to notice it and the bloody stream too

[@BIONICforge_Studios]

Should throw out more ideas. This one was pretty cool. It'd cost nothing to make a mini series about alternative mission ideas. After all, horde modes don't really offer a lot, and we have a lot of them currently in game.

[@leonardotrevino2179]

I imagine that there would be guaranteed drops for low end, middle and high end. Drop tables for either a single floor and continues into infinity, or after a set number of floors where the difficulty change is noticeable Low would be what we normally see in other missions but a greater amount to incentivize newer players to play (endo, credits, a premade item (catalyst/reactor/forma), and some com/uncom mods as a single floor or group of floors completed. Middle could be prime parts from most recent prime access: relics of all types (still get credits and endo, but significantly more, and rare mods) as well as a currency for this mode for arcanes and the like (not as absurd as Scarlet Spear). High end could either increase the endo and cred rewards further or do away with them, a guaranteed legendary item (core, Umbral, Aura, or stance Forma, or cosmetic), more of that currency I mentioned, and blueprints for weapons. (I assume a set of 2 weapons for each slot so 6: 2 primaries, 2 secondaries, and 2 melee) Seperate it into "casual" and "hardcore" and casual would go through low, mid, and high, where as high automatically starts you of in the middle or high difficulty floors. Also, just for fun, 4 Leaderboards (2 clan leaderboards, and 2 public ones, solo and squad, one for everyone and another for your clan)

[@MrMoron-qn5rx]

Its cool, but it is pretty op. A fix for this could be you dont loot the raw parts. You get... lets call it prime ducats. You can trade them to baro for good shit, or trade them to a handful of nps's that buy and sell prime ducats for more expensive things. In order to get **just one** you need to complete a floor. You get a handful every rest floor, and can be used inside the tower in order to get a temporary upgrade that lasts for the run. You DONT get regular credits in the tower. You can get endo, but you have to sell the prime ducats for credits if you want them. You can buy resources, blueprints and raw parts, but the price is REDICULOUSLY high. Costing 5 prime ducats for some salvage. And its about 10.000 credits to a prime ducat. Sure, you can buy pre-built parts, but those cost a few thousand. That way you CAN get the parts you need instantly, but it takes a lot of grinding. The higher you get in the tower though, the more special stuff you'll find. Perhaps find a new kind of orokin statue that is VERY rare, but it becomes less rare the higher you get, and sells for a few prime ducats. This way people who play well will get lots of stuff, while making newbies wanna get better. The tower you explore is the one in cetus. This will allow newbies to see some endgame stuff, while also not being left behind by their superiors. And the good shit is about 100 floors high. For a lot of ducats a player can get a permanent fast-travel point to any rest floor, but they need to have activated it first by sepping foot in it.

[@WeDoSomeTrolling2]

this would be cool, i imagine my luck getting something like zephyr with the braton, stug and kama

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

Kama is nice The rest is trash and turbotrash in order

[@kylzepolaczkowaty2197]

At least you'd protect yourself and your allies with zephyr. y know better that than nyx

[@Arudon117]

Zephyr ain't that bad

[@demmodor4761]

That is the same luck as my chance was for gauss chassis REALLY BAD!

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

- Zephyr is now solid even unmodded with the armor buff and shield rework even without her 3 (though of course having that up still remains an infinitely scaling shield againse any kind of ranged damage), don't forget to use her 2 to have heavy units fall on their asses and 4 for some crowd damage distribution/aggro negation. - The kama is a robust melee, I think remaining on the top 3 as best machete, still remember when I used it back then - The braton is boring, but considered the theoretical scenario it really wouldn't be _bad_

[@DILLIOVRC]

you know what imma say this here, looks like Mr. Loki main has influenced the decision making of de yet again. who would've thought that duviri is the rouge like concept we get. thank you trib for making these weird but funny foreshadows.

[@criticalraccoon130]

In all seriousness , everyone share this to DE, they need to see this and actually implement it, this would seriously boost warframe in its current state

[@jaimecoelho8859]

Yeah spread the concept

[@Carpatouille]

If you trust that they'd implement it well that is

[@akatoshmorgul9367]

Lmfao

[@criticalraccoon130]

@@Carpatouille Not worried about the implementation, worried about how many minutes it will take on release before bugs unload everything and my pc crashes

[@Uncreative-Name]

2 years and this is still the best idea for a new mode in years

[@cephalonsark1530]

This is legitimately one of the best concepts I’ve ever seen for warframe. I would play this so often with my friends. I want this in the game so bad.

[@makisajlovo]

Amazing concept, shove this in DE's face.

[@TheBeep198]

Pleaaaaseeee

[@Haarsgard]

Just posted on redit xD. Instantly got a dislike :(

[@adrielklein189]

@@Haarsgard Reddit is salty af, everything you put out there is received with unreasonable criticism.

[@Haarsgard]

@@adrielklein189 yes indeed. Thats to bad. But im also in contact with the top eichelons of the Instagram Warframe meme community

[@rjdestige2928]

So what I'm hearing is: Risk of Rain in Warframe.

[@fusrosandvich3738]

Risk of War Rain? I'm down.

[@theoutergod8666]

@@fusrosandvich3738 That's what I awlays wanted in this game. Going further and further and further. Until the madness takes you.

[@LifeLikeSage]

Risk of Warframe

[@rebellious6660]

This is brilliant, I've always found it interesting why DE is willing to take ideas for a new frame but hasn't talked to the community about modes. As a community it'd be great to see a push for this mode to be implemented. Good work on this Trib, hopefully it comes to be a reality.

[@Haarsgard]

Just posted on reddit. Instantly got a dislike xD

[@ergosum5001]

Because all the community cares about is how broken the rewards will be. When it comes to the gameplay of the game modes themselves the only thing the community cares about is that there's an exploit or way to make it practically AFK-compatible.

[@Haarsgard]

@@ergosum5001 disagreement

[@MilkyNep]

@@ergosum5001 exactly, great part of the warframe community doesn't care about fun, they only care how batshit crazy the new mod/weapon/warframe is

[@edcaous]

@@MilkyNep Sometimes it does feel that way.

[@emeraldhoarder2298]

The way you describe it, it sounds like a player would feel like they are starting all over again and go through a shortened version of their journey, reliving old memories of some of their favorite weapons, giving them a sense of how far they have come. I love it!!

[@blugale5375]

I think this mode has potential though making a one time insta-death would be frustrating for the uninitiated. What I like the idea of is being able to get a new warframe every boss floor which functions as both another option to pick at the beginning of a floor and as an extra life system. Also you could scale weapon rarity off of Mastery rank requirement and every five floors or so when playing with a warframe pick an augment for that warframe.

[@jaimecoelho8859]

I think that the checkpoint is for that reason its something like now that you have this checkpoint you have a certain amount of lifes but not much. But in my opinion even with no extra lifes it would be fun cause that would make you want to gain better stuff and understand more abaot the mecanics so it would ask more skill from you

[@635574]

@@jaimecoelho8859 unmodded frames fun and not dead? At least it beats ranking from 0

[@tyrantofcans465]

"When does it release?" "TONIGHT."

[@creshi6536]

This reminds me of a highly expanded version of Zanuka Capture mission. Where all your gear is spread out in gas city and you need to find before dipping tf out. I liked the concept and I don't know if it still in with the Gas City Remake....Cause 1) Zanuka is a bloody myth that spawns once in a blue moon. 2) Zanuka is as threatening as a puppy now.

[@methmoth2558]

It doesnt work anymore (at least for me)

[@mr.sennin7923]

I got him to spawn yesterday

[@aggammer3485]

It does work, but u need to get zanuka hunter to spawn....

[@uhagi6720]

The sad part is that Alad V's fight in the Gas City still suffers from the bug where he's stuck in a T-Pose.

[@garg0y7e]

The first thing that came to mind for me was the first mission I remember playing. It's just the start of the game where you get to choose between the Braton, Paris, Lato, and Kunai (all mk1 of course) I spent quite a few minutes thinking about how I wanted to go at it. More of a stealthy approach, just walking in guns blazing or a mix where I try to be sneaky but have some real firepower to back me up. That kind of choice would be really cool in this sort of game mode, especially as you go on and you have to try to make something out of the mismatched gear you have. I'd love to see something like this implemented

[@naycknico]

This aged like fucking wine, mf predicted the circuit

[@ReaperD23]

I was gonna say, this sounds a lot like a better version of duviri lol

[@ID4rkIIF0xI]

"This is a shooter" -me laughing in melee

[@jaimecoelho8859]

True meele is overpowerd

[@ZakTheKaiju]

Melee is fun and satisfying

[@ahumanperson3649]

Tom The Kaiju melee is awesome.

[@ashishligy8080]

Still a shooter with redeemer prime

[@zanna_Z]

Well we have the redeemer

[@eliasperez5693]

This sounds like EXACTLY the type of content i would love to play with warframe.

[@feralforlorn]

the tought of having this gamemode as a daily and weekly challenge made me super excited. but then i remember its DE and their spaghetti code that were talking about and i quickly became sad.

[@jaimecoelho8859]

If it was a event that you can play once per week or something in those lines it would be bad i should be an atual game mod that you can play whenever you want

[@kalaichelvanm3593]

and so "The Circuit" was born. kind of implements what was discussed here.

[@sopersmosh5296]

I really love this idea. This could be a cinematic to where the unum calls to your operator and challenges you to a "test of will". This could mean that the whole gamemode is in your head as you go through the tower, kind of like the trial of the sword in breath of the wild. Heck, it would explain why you why you start with lower tier stuff but can only get gear that you have mastered.

[@ash3n121]

Looking at this again years later, I see DE has taken some inspiration from this for the Circuit

[@gelitesparton8533]

I just imagine getting a stug, heat dagger, and braton as a low tier find. But! This idea is great and I'd absolutely LOVE to see it in game. DE. LOOK AT IT. LOOK AT IT, THE TRUTH OF A GOD MODE MODE.

[@beginnersguidetowarframe7985]

I love the Heat Dagger tho. Guilty pleasure.

[@gelitesparton8533]

@@beginnersguidetowarframe7985 True true x, D just throwing out a "low level" Weapon idea XP

[@Retro--]

Finally a man of my caliber, welcome to the "wanting something done with the tower" club

[@zacorn5858]

Wow, what an amazing idea. I feel like this would bring so much (very needed and deserved) life into this game. This is a great example of how Warframe can transform its own gameplay through bringing in complimenting ideas. I would so so so love to see this implemented.

[@phoenixisatree5527]

So glad this is pretty much just what Duviri is bringing

[@ZephyrusX888]

So im not the only one who noticed, sick

[@andysoldier5384]

3 years xd

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I wouldn't want this to be ''the'' direction of Warframe's difficulty, I really like deliberate team-comps, even crunching numbers etc., but for that sorta thing to work as well as it could we'd need a huge rebalance to make us interact with enemies using different guns, movement and overal tactics, and really go back at looking at the roles each kind of weapon has in a mission vs. a singular point along WF's scaling curve, like in games like Halo. To achieve this is really hard in a game that has existed for so long, but it could see counters to tanks that drain %hp etc., just don't make any of these enemies small dots on the screen that spazz around and hide in groups like shield-drones when adding the mobile enemies we probably highly need to pressure us more. There's so much more to it, but I and a ton of other people have probably painted this picture at this point. BUT- MAN, I NEED this tower mode. One issue: There would be an incentive to delete gear you don't like as much as other stuff, this is why arbi bonus applies to stuff you don't have, it creates an incentive to get even MORE gear instead. Maybe they could figure out a nice way to reverse the situation the same way here, but much trickier than arbitrations, in large part since those bonuses don't define the mode. If they'd use the exact same logic, you'd just be left running with your spawn equipment until you finally get to a reward you have access to.

[@MonstahHuntah]

Actually, it would probably be better not just to take from your gear pool, but from your mastery pool with that ‘was this rank 30’d requirement’. It’d fix that whole: deleting weapons bit

[@Gnurklesquimp]

@@MonstahHuntah Ohh yeah, that seems like a good way to prevent the player from running around without any drops like they would if ANY gun could drop. You do run into the problem of having very little weapon drops you have access to if most of your MR is from frames, but I feel like it'd work well. There could even be a slightly increased chance that something you actually have drops, not worth the risk keeping your arsenal small as you'll have less gunpower on average, but makes it a bit smoother.

[@zerothedrunkard6590]

@@MonstahHuntah 13:19 He literally mentioned this

[@Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King]

Here’s a few tweaks I’d like to see to this fantastic concept: -have the rewards be either maxed out or primed mods -have a “theme” to stunt meta development, so it’s always interestingly themed around, for example, endurance (reduced ammo and energy drops), or crowd control (tripled enemy spawnrates) or something adventurous like One-Frame-Army, where you are thrown into a pit of enemies and have to kill all of them in a certain room-soon-to-be-tomb (levels are to be quite low, say, 20, to emulate the feeling warframe tries to achieve) -have innate buffs to certain stats, randomised by a computer, e.g. +500 armour, +500 sheilds, etc.

[@upside-downsmore9437]

i love the idea of trashed gear still being usable

[@frzenvrtx1096]

I really really hope DE watches this video. This is such an amazing concept.

[@knightslayer6161]

*Comes up with a interesting mission concept* DE: “Would you like to place a ticket into the back burner?” I do know DE and many of us are limited with a “bug” going around. Its just a joke WhiteKnight or WhiteKnightess. Btw I will now buy Deadcells always thought that game looked sexy asf and you’ve pushed me too far and now I want to buy it.

[@birbman5186]

You might have overly protected your joke. Just let it happen and let the whiteknights expose themselves. Also get Deadcells. It's definitely worth your time.

[@yaboimattyk]

Deadcells is a phenomenal game. You won’t regret it.

[@obsidianmind8606]

Trib: NO U JUST CAN'T TAKE INAROS (me who literally takes inaros on every) ME: *sweats profusely"

[@aarond3987]

Octavia

[@Aquariousi]

Love the suggestion- I know I would play that in a heartbeat. That said, I want to provide one thing you might find interesting about the Grendel missions... The fact that augment mods are one of the only things that can be used. Given how some of them change abilities, I imagine that could add some variety at least... but yeah, I still agree that while they certainly require strategy, there's no denying how annoying the power of customization was taken away. If DE sees this, I hope they treat it seriously- if not give it the attention it deserves , because I worry they might wind up ruining it in some shape or form by cutting corners still...

[@lordryan9845]

3 years later and a game mode/mechanic was add to the game that is very similar to this video and I remember when this video first came out think and wanting this and now it’s here

[@alchemyofaddiction2939]

YOURE ALIVE!

[@ohexenwahno5652]

New players be like: "Should I level this trash and risk looting it in Tower Heist?"

[@LifeLikeSage]

Also the fear of getting a frame they hate so it won't be in the queue for random frames to choose from.

[@namba3886]

I would love that. This is by far the most different and fun ideas I've heard so far.

[@kokirij0167]

This video aged like fine wine, Duviri is that + access to all weapons & Warframes. Top tier to be honest

[@shadeparker5922]

That's a really cool idea. There's three things that stood out to me personally: 1. Why? What rewards does this offer? I know I'd play this for the sheer fun of it, but a lot players will complain that it's pointless if they don't get anything out of it. 2. Who would be doing this? If it's for all players, that's cool, but some of the randomising bits might have trouble accommodating for them. And 3. I reckon for the Warframe picker at the start, players should pick 10 frames (or as many as they own) to go into the pool. This would allow players to be comfortable with whatever is picked, but also stop Inaros being the starter frame every damn time. Ultimately though, I do this is great, and I reckon if it was added as you've described word for word it would be awesome and I'd absolutely play the hell out of it

[@sonny259]

i think it should have the risk of rain model where some initial items will always be in the starting pool no matter what, this can make new player get a taste for frames and weapons they haven't unlocked yet, and yet there is more to unlock outside of the gamemode that will affect the drops in the game mode when you return, which will make it more replayable and change the gamemode whenever you return to it. this also fixes the first problem of it having no reason to exist. it's a gamemode that isn't forced onto you, but it rewards you by playing the overall game, which changes drops and loot tables, and rouge likes are also excellent games, because balance is less of an issue

[@shadeparker5922]

@@sonny259 That's a cool idea. So it would actually be appealing to newcomers as they can see what frames they might want to aim for, and veterans cause they'll get a juiced up version of whatever frame they get (like I reckon if you own the prime version of a frame, that's the version you can pick up).

[@matrious2485]

tribs basically predicted divuri lol

[@K4nek0]

I feel like this is something that would be keeping me playing whenever I dont have anything else I wanna do...... Which is basically the whole time. I personally love the way that this gamemode would bring back weapons you had long forgotten about even better than Rivens (which were made by DE so we use other weapons again that are not meta *I believe* pls don't hit me if I am wrong) and I feel like thanks to you planning this for about a year now, DE could implement this relativly easy if they work together with you (which they should be doing anyway, since Warframe partners became a thing to help DE be more connected to the Community and ppl from the outside, so basically ppl that don't work on the game but play it instead, most often have a better / refreshing view of things rather than ppl that work on the same thing everyday) But this is obviously just my opinion and I could very well be talking straight out of my Ass. ^^

[@filipecosta1232]

Beggining of the video thoughts: "Your idea might be similar to something I have in mind. Let's watch the arguments." End of the video thoughts: "That's nothing like what I thought. I like it anyways. Good concept and well put together arguments."

[@zenerstorm95]

WHEN GHOUL SAW DE

[@demmodor4761]

Next decade obviously

[@aaron_lopes]

Brimstone

[@dakimbler4971]

WHEN GHOUL SAW DE???????? WHEN GHOUL SAW DE????????!!!!!!-!

[@tipsy_hog]

I know we already have the Duviri Experience and The Circuit, but if this idea gets implemented I need it to be a Drifter exclusive game mode. I despise that the Drifter has been relegated to "Tenno But Tall" outside of Duviri and New War, and I REALLY want to experience more

[@techticianlarsproductions6180]

Wait I caught a Trib video as soon as it was uploaded.... I've just been binging your shit the past week and rewatching a bunch of it plus you have some of my absolute favorite quotes in the Warframe community

[@Mr.Finklebottom]

Trib, they're finally doing something like this. After 3 years, Duviri is coming out with a new endless gamemode that combines different mission types on different tilesets where you can also earn what they're calling Decrees to increase Warframe and Tenno power. I firmly believe that they got this idea from you, I refuse to believe it's a coincidence. It's not exactly the same, but it's really similar and fits warframe's style.

[@ndt_dynamite2247]

14:59 split it into a casual version and a "Hardcore" mode, in Hardcore mode everything is slightly more difficult, but you do get permanent upgrades on subsequent runs, however these boosts would only function in the Hardcore mode

[@tmvega8167]

I think it should be the opposite. It's not going to be hardcore anymore if you have all those upgrades right? Keep the easy mode easy and the hard mode hard, otherwise it's going to turn out just like the rest of the game.

[@ndt_dynamite2247]

@@tmvega8167 hmm, fair point!

[@knavenformed9436]

Why would the hardcore mode be the one that gets easier over time? That's the opposite of a hardcore system.

[@yully6079]

KZbin just recommended me this and now I cant get this out of my mind

[@jeugene807]

That's some spicy png. Amazing idea, and if this worked like a higher level nightwave, where you get credits to shop rare resources, like arcanes (once the scarlet spear is done, we're gonna need something), relics, potatoes, and even forma, I'd be super sold, as that'd be an almost neverending incentivizing balance between rewards and fun. A few questions, eventually you will be ripping apart rooms if enemy level stays the same and you get the right mods and weapons, and most roguelikes I know have some sort of scaling difficulty. So, in your idea, is enemy level static, or does it slightly scale? Also, when you die, I assume you keep whatever rewards you have already gotten? Plus, how do you prevent host migration issues when someone dies, and they're like "well I'm done, sayanora".

[@omegademon6285]

I feel like it would work better if it gave a resource like universal medallions but one that could be exchanged with any vendor and is uncapped. Host migration would always be a problem, but it could would like risk of rain when it comes to death, players who die should just return at the checkpoint.

[@holycow4683]

I rly like the idea of the rewards being some sort of credits to be exchanged for arcanes,relics, potatos and forma, imho you could also sell a small amount of plat for an enourmus amount of points as a big insentive as well for endgame players (im kinda endgame and i have pretty much infinite forma,potatos and relics, now arcanes cuz of the scarlet spear). i have no idea on how solve host migration. For enemy scaling you could use the current method just in a smaller scale, mby DE could create some new enemy types for this mode (as in rougelikes, you get diffrent enemies with diffrent mechanics). also, current bosses in the game need a rework so i think that for bosses to be actualy challenging they would need to make new bosses (or rework current ones and put them).

[@cron1807]

I think they mastered difficulty with the Duviri side of Duviri Paradox, even if the warframe side is just sending enemy levels to the moon, the drifter stuff is super fun, relying heavily on reaction speed, while still letting you have build diversity

[@sci-fisnake7959]

CONTENT. i thank you trib

[@adamofblastworks1517]

Oh look. They actually added a roguelike to Warframe, 3 years later.

[@fenchellforelle]

honestly the only thing the grendel missions made me feel was a short "oh. i guess i dont have my mods then. cool." and that was that. i was in some ragtag group of players from recruit chat with no specific build and we just breezed through. anyways, i *love* the idea of the mode and it sounds like a ton of fun, especially as someone who allready likes rougelikes. However, one thing you havent touched on that new modes tend to suffer from that would very much be an issue again: what would this mode give us? a mode in warframe can be as fun as it wants, but pretty much nobody is gonna play it if all you get is yet another cache of 2000 credits or another relic you allready have 46 of. Hide a weapon in there like with sanctuary onslaught? cool, players will rush to get the weapon day one and then complain that there is no reason to play the mode. would love to hear some discussion on that :)

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I might be messing up my lore here, but doesn't the Unum tower contain kuva? Like A LOT of it? Hmmm

[@imperialphoenix1229]

Make rewards scale properly, (unlike the rest of the game), boss 1 on floor 5 gives 10k creds and 500 Endo, but boss 10 on floor 50 gives 1m creds, 50k endo, 15k kuva and a random 24 hr booster

[@Carpatouille]

Same concern, the idea for the gamemode is absolutely amazing, but there needs to be a real reason to play it for players in a game where everything is rewarded with something. The Sanctuary seemed to handle it well for a time, but to be honest without the insane amount of afinity you can get there no one would return there once the rewards are given. Outside of levelling weapon or focus schools there would be no reason to come back.

[@fenchellforelle]

@@Carpatouille sanctuary does it perfectly imo, a fun gamemode with rewards that players want at any stage of the game (unless they have literrally everything at wich point i cant help anymore lol). High amounts of focus with radiant relics thrown in is just a great deal. Radiant relics in general i think are a great reward, as they give an alternative to farming traces wich imho is just drop dead boring

[@Carpatouille]

@@fenchellforelle Agreed 100%, more ways to get them would be a great idea

[@zoidsfan12]

I think this is a really solid idea, one of my favorite things in PD2 for instance is crime spree's because I want to see how far I can get. Having that rogue like element would really increase replayability.

[@nuclearnyxwarknight9377]

Something that doesn’t exist ...........so my happiness when I turned 11

[@dknprobablydoesanything311]

F

[@villecor8765]

What the fuck happened to make an 11 yo sad

[@mishtrong]

@@villecor8765 you know, my little sister don't like to go to kindergarten. She wants to go to school. I wanted to say that school is worse than kindergarten. But then I realized that life gets progressively worse. From my personal experience, school is worse than kindergarten, the higher the class, the worse it gets. University or college is worse than school. Trying to graduate is hell. And looking at my parents, life after college is not good. Then your health begins to deteriorate. It's only gets worse.

[@zatchflame3995]

Jesus @mishtrong what made you thing of that like my god dude

[@nuclearnyxwarknight9377]

Villecor Depression appeared

[@Riftwalker84]

Two years later I'm stuck doing steel path void cascades with limbo to feel some semblance of a threat

[@flubberduck1379]

15:39 *I, Giorno Giovanna, have claimed this video*

[@josephghodsee1710]

Coming back and declaring that the idea of the new rouge lite game mode coming was originally your idea!

[@joethomas8464]

I genuinely believe this should defiantly be implemented. Sarcastic note: "Next they'll turn Warframe into Dark Souls." Edit: 18:50 Is that a Monty Python reference?

[@CH3353N1NJ45]

Ironically enough Mortal Shell exists........

[@entwicklungseries4009]

You did it you glorious glorious bastard!!!Duviri paradox is basically what you wanted to get added

[@mrblackjacker32.03]

Not this sounds amazing, but it also could give some interaction time with Samodeous. The poor one is just the barman of our rivers that just tells us every three months that the disposition has been changed.

[@Paradox1012]

Hey like I said ,maybe this could be a reliable scource of rivers so we could actually experiment and have fun with them.

[@Odisher7]

well this video aged well xd

[@SMLVods]

Tower heist would have different type of missions per floor , and would the enemies be all from the same faction ? Y’know like first time ya play it its grineer and the second time it could be infested or something.

[@jaimecoelho8859]

Yeah like the enemy type changes ramdomly every time you start that misson, that would give even more chalenge cause you couldnt aim always for the same thing and you would have to think more

[@ZelosWalgrem]

Just discovered the channel and saw this video (Even though it's 2 years old, I'll give my input) I think it's a great concept! Although a reward( or incentive ) to do the tower should be done. For instance every 20 or 30 floor you gain X or Y with the rarity increasing the further up the tower you are. To prevent lvl 300000 mob an end could be introduced with a special reward for replayability! Also an option to go Rogue-lite or Rogue-like at the beginning of the tower could be introduced to have a higher drop rate/reward similar to Steel path. But overall I'd love for DE to introduce some other game type to use non-meta weapon. I tend to use weapon I find that looks good and often they are just purely bad weapon and makes my life miserable in Steel path haha

[@whitejester]

This aged like fine wine

[@krishnansubramoni7801]

This

[@brazilianwaterman718]

I actually like your concept but in my opinion there could be some changes like the players not needing to get weapons or mods before going on the tower to be able to use them because it would give players a chance to use gear that they have never used and also the ability to switch warframes on the checkpoint floors but only to warframes you would find on the tower. So let's say you start your run with Excalibur and you end up getting a warframe for example rhino you would be able to use any of the two

[@patp.7110]

I know the odds of you seeing this are a nice low 0%, but speaking for myself and a few others in the community who are starting to burn out, this would be AMAZING. I highly suggest contacting DE and having them look over or even just lay eyes upon this idea. Very, very well done and thought out.

[@Doomakia]

Can't believe this became real

[@blueray2174]

Stuff like this is what makes you one of, if not my favorite warframe youtuber, you ALWAYS deliver man, as a Dead Cells fan I'm 200% behind this idea.

[@riptide8562]

I actually thought of a way DE could bring back some old systems. Everyone knows raids, those 8 player missions that were really hard and fun and everyone knows the solar rail in the Orokin lab. Well why don’t they combine the two, hear me out. The missions could play out similarly to Railjack at first. At the start of the mission you start out in the solar rail and you have to destroy anti air emplacements on a planet. To destroy them you must have a big gun on the solar rail shoot them. The gun will function automatically and lock onto the emplacements but will need to charge before firing all you need to do is press a button to begin the charging sequence and again to fire it. However while you are destroying the emplacements you will have to defend your solar rail as you will be under constant attack from borders and fighters. This is where the specter armies come into play as they will allow you to defend your ship from borders much easier. They will be a few high damage anti ship gun on the side to deal with the fighters and crew ships however there will be orbital platforms that will be constantly spitting out borders and the only way to stop them is by going into the base and blowing up a reactor, this is risky though as the platforms have flak guns and not to mention all the fighters and crew ships. The solar rail will take damage like the Railjack and must be fixed like the Railjack( as the solar rail will be much bigger than a Railjack players will be able to teleport around without needing anything as a prerequisite). After destroying all the emplacements on the planet you then deploy in drop pods to the planets surface where it will basically be like what you would do in a raid mission before they were removed. Feel free to add your own ideas

[@tsquitz]

syndicate tower heist could also exist, with extra objectives based on the syndicate you support

[@comet.x]

gratz on 100k trib!

[@whoribbonramble1465]

I love this idea. However there are some things i would add in addition and a thing i would change. The ticket to get inside the gamemode should take about 8 hours to make after the first time to let the player reroll the choices of warframe, but you instantly get a new ticket to get in again if you reach the top. MR 8 requirement maybe, just so it has a decent item pool it can take from. I wouldn't put it in an orokin tower because the enemies and environment would get samey and boring. I would rather put it in Simaris' simulation for lore reasons, and so they can use any environment with any enemies. Changing what tileset it used every time you beat a boss, and also the tileset could give you a hint at which boss you were about to fight. I like the idea that the checkpoint is after the boss fight to keep stakes higher than normal, but I do want to be able to put on mods right before the boss. Other stuff I would love if weapons/sentinels were always locked behind treasure rooms that were similar to spy vaults. And also in addition to new rewards on reaching the top, I would also like rewards that would only be beneficial in the tower like "Oh I might have the choice of being able to choose the boltor or cestra when I reset to the start again". And most importantly the rewards for when you reach the top needs to have the option to choose which one you want instead of the rng bs that is sanctuary onslaught. Mod capacity can be removed for this gamemode, being op is fun in rogue-lites and what does it matter when you get reset every time you get to the top. A daily/weekly run mode!!! Something to give us a place to flex highscores of how many floors we got before succumbing to the ruthless simulation. The daily run should be harder but always give the same items and mods to everyone doing it, and having a participation reward and a higher reward if you reach the end. And daily/weekly run would not have public matchmaking for highscore purposes. tldr this is my favorite gamemode idea for warframe and i would be playing this all day.

[@Haarsgard]

I love all of this except for the vault thingy

[@MoonGuardian866]

"The tower should be in simaris simulation" Yes, a million times yes, simaris would ABSOLUTELY *LOVE* to study how we do in these restricted situations. Like in Sanctuary onslaught but he would study anything else than always saryn prime. Im sure he wants to know how well a tenno fare with a furis, a nami solo, an astilla and wisp during a capture mission against infested. Not always seeing the same Saryn P with ignis wraith, a catchmoon and a gram prime

[@Fabelaz]

As a person still longing for times when orokin void was special, how dare you call it samey and boring!

[@xzaioluster4817]

FUCK that 8 hour wait bullshit I don't give two shits for your reasoning behind it, get that shit out of there. I don't know what makes you think waiting 8 hours to make an item (that you can only craft one at a time) is fun or engaging. Warframe needs way less bullshitty mobile game wait times. It already takes 4 damn days to make a warframe at minimum if you have all the materials without platinum. Other than that, Neat ok comment

[@xzaioluster4817]

I still really like the tower Idea, PLEASE DE ADD IT

[@DragonKnightJin]

Thanks Trib. Your vid showing up in my recommended got me watching it, andmy Warframe is updating as we speak, to play for the first time in months. Last I played, Gauss wasn't even released yet. So I got some frames and new weapons waiting for me.

[@matthewdavis8179]

looks like they added this in finally. DUVIRI CIRCUIT HOOO!

[@cybirdo6063]

This is honestly an extremely great idea! I hope DE sees this and develops something akin to this or even dm you about it.

[@lolzking4943]

In my opinion, I think instead of only being able to use already mastered weapons, people should be able to get a max rank variant of every weapon in the game so it'll be more friendly to newer players who still don't have alot of weapons.

[@elvenkingloki]

That moment when you are trying to come up with new ideas to pitch to DE since you have done everything in-game and stumble upon this. THIS! This is freaking great. I was trying to rework conclave and other games that are in Warframe so we would have a reason to play them, but this is just amazing. I would love to have this in-game as its something different

[@ianchandler3282]

I love this as a concept however, it loops back to the one question I think a lot of people in the Warframe community is asking, and that is "What is the point?" While I love rogue-likes so my bias is obviously showing here, I have to ask what is the benefit to clearing a ton of floors? What would the reward be? If its weapons that would be fun, but they would be weapons used to get more weapons from this tower event. If it is cosmetics well then people who don't care about fashion frame have nothing to chase. While this concept is great on paper, and in practice could be a ton of fun, we still have to look at the fact that warframe come end game is just, not very rewarding to play, and until that's fixed missions and events like this would only be lost to obscurity.

[@callmesoul1468]

Blitz Striker the reward pool should be similar to sorties except more rewarding for actual completion. Add random vaulted prime parts. Credits, endo, etc shouldn’t be rewards as this game mode seems pushed towards more seasoned players

[@cakefromthefuture8566]

well its entire point is climbing the tower and using different weapons so some things i an come up with from the top of my head are:forma,weapon bps and maybe even mr exp

[@botondkabina7534]

It is strange that people don’t even consider having fun as a reward

[@AFXPaladin]

Botond Kabina fun shouldn’t be a reward, we shouldn’t have to expect fun to be a bone thrown to us. It should be fun because it’s a video game that we dump money into.

[@Paradox1012]

I mean it could be a actually scource of riven mods,instead of getting a riven mod every blue godamn moon. That's the main problem with rivens, we cant experiment or have fun with them because we never bloody get any without putting In like 4-10 hours of effort for like 3 every week.

[@fondrive]

Been recently playing genshin and doing imaginarium theatre runs made me think "hey, this would be a great idea for a warframe mode!", and then I remember you made this video years ago xD

[@CoffeFilter]

there is a gamemode kinda like that in the game now

[@starflight7575]

I find it funny that he described the tower from Minecraft dungeons ( I get it could be a coincidence I just find it ironic)

[@ali4games10]

Fun fact the tower showed up after this video came out so....at least SOMEONE at mojang watches triburos

[@ali4games10]

Fun fact...God fall and Minecraft dungeons of all games has this exact type of game mode lol

[@jack-u8f9k]

mother fucking time wizards added this

[@FacelessBeanie]

Risk of Rain in Warframe sounds too fun! Almost too fun for DE to actually implement it innit. With the mess that SS was, this looks pretty simple to implement and I'd hope DE strongly consider it. Cheers for the shout-out, absolutely love the idea!

[@dy4914]

And its ingame now

[@MylesJacobSwie]

As someone obsessed with Rogue-likes/Rogue-lites, this sets my brain on fire with how much fun it sounds like. I feel like it would be possible to do this even without DE involved, just playing through the star chart, and the only mods you're allowed to equip are ones you pick up during your runs, and then use an RNG to determine what guns "drop" after each mission, based on which planet you're on.

[@jinxxybg2578]

You know....idk how many people will even see this. But technically, duviri did the whole "random load out" thing that this video is talking about as well as modding weapons even if you don't have it

[@night_san03]

Tower raid alternative construction: Start by selecting a configuration load out, and enter a void storm that separates you from your gear. As you climb the tower, you unlock each item and the mods and arcanes attached.

[@Brawlatron]

Reminds me of the Mystery Dungeon games where they have special dungeons that set your characters back to level 1 and have to re-level through the dungeon. ....now if only I had faith DE wouldn't cripple it with bugs, grind, or lack of rewards.

[@Fabelaz]

tbh would play it with just rare mods as rewards. or unusual arcanes.

[@joeplayer8980]

I particularly like the idea that you can get any gear you've mastered, not just what is currently in your inventory.