WARFRAME: Whispers In The Walls Explained in 2.5 Hours

[@benruniko]

It is just our luck that the first being to breach the barrier to the Void was an Orokin stewing in his millennia of sin

[@SocraTetris]

Right? Why couldnt it have been like a friendly toddler, or a particularly cuddly alien

[@rafsanrahman2797]

wait who was the first one to enter the void ?

[@darknessthebrown1818]

@@rafsanrahman2797 Albrecht Entrati

[@kead_davidson]

I'm glad Ballas wasn't first. If the Void is indifferent and unremorseful, how would things be different if a different Orokin was first?

[@darknessthebrown1818]

@@kead_davidson I imagine if Ballas was first the void would resemble more the realms of Slaanesh lol

[@simonevo9743]

< We/The Board/The Indifference are pleased/happy/ecstatic with quality of the video/essay. The cover/rendition/parody of The Stupendium/The Other was the highlight/showstopper. Congratulations, Director/SocraTetris/KZbinr! >

[@SocraTetris]

Best comment

[@benthasome]

Finally the peak was recognized by the Board

[@GreyEnneract]

Peak

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Do you play The Secret World by chance? Or maybe Control? Your comment has very strong flavors of both.

[@Garbear0119]

Man the cavia syndicate storyline might be the most emotional story in all of Warframe

[@SocraTetris]

100. Most emotional since the sacrifice

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

And now that we get to hug them, except Loid, it makes it even more emotional. Maybe Loid will get some loving soon. I think he needs it; if his dialogue is to be believed, which I think it is, he's not handling this all very well.

[@Theguyoverthere603]

Very excited for mr philosophy man’s deep dive into the old man yaoi quest

[@SocraTetris]

A Yaoi Quest that spans millenia!

[@akdreamer6497]

@@Theguyoverthere603 Why are y'all hyping up someone cheating on their wife

[@Divine-General-Mahoraga]

@@akdreamer6497 huh?

[@RenVolkert]

​@@akdreamer6497 ohh hell naw 😂😂😂

[@akdreamer6497]

@@Divine-General-Mahoraga Everyone be acting like the Loid-Albrecht relationship is cool even though Albrecht is fucking married to Grandma and she is a really nice person so it's kinda fucked up

[@Rougesteelproject]

Changing from one "Into the Void" to another was a 10/10 joke.

[@SocraTetris]

Tyty

[@Rougesteelproject]

Dog!? Tagfer is the GOAT. ("The" goat, rather than "a" goat, by being the last remaining 😢)

[@SocraTetris]

Rouge, how can you invent a joke both so sad and so funny at the same time. I'm twice broken!

[@finnik_23]

Tagfer needs a hug. He is like a hybrid between and ungulate and and oreodont.

[@bluebloodNicholas]

just a fyi, DE bought the rights to the nine inch nails song used and announced all could use it safely without worry the same day of the the original trailer release at tennocon way back

[@SocraTetris]

I'm not sure for how long that lasted. Because when i uploaded that section alone to check, it got copyright claimed. That's why i made the royalty free version that's up as my channel trailer right now. Those sorts of agreements can have timelimits. So it probably was up for grabs for conyent creators back then. But maybe not anymore. Better to make something evergreen

[@coolgamer3646]

@@SocraTetris also copy right abuse happens a lot on KZbin

[@ruifaria8871]

In the Trivia section of the Voidtongue page in the Wiki it says: "In Digital Extremes' previous game, Dark Sector, "Mara" is the name of Hayden Tenno's "Operator". ", so i'd imagine that MARA LOHK is something similar to 'Child of the Void' or even 'Void Demon', considering the amount of times we are called Demon/Devil in Warframe.

[@ruifaria8871]

Looking further into it, on the comment section of the same page, the user "Lord Malecith" might have figure it out, they said that it might be connected to Sanskrit, and in Sanskrit "मार māra" means (“killing; death; destroyer; demon; evil one”), so MARA LOHK might actually be Void Demon, that's at least what the Orokin called the Tenno, other people go further in the replies stating that "न na" is a negation, so NE XATA might mean something similar to ""not true".

[@SocraTetris]

I'm not super up to date on the sanskrit that i do know, but part of my reading is to see how DE is using the words as parallel concepts and as names, rather than direct translations. DE doesnt always just use sanskrit words denotatively. So Mara Lohk is used as a name in Dark Sector and has a definition of death/destroyer/demon. But culturally, a "Mara" is not just a word that means demon, but a religious figure with a role/purpose. It is a demon of desire and wordly attachment. That being causing Desire to maintain Samsara. So by translating is as desire, instead of as demon, we can point to the cultural context alongisde the language, as well as point to the story of Warframe. As the tenno desiring the void is the basis for their current state.

[@MB-sq7yn]

@@SocraTetris Wanted to jump on something that popped in my head, but the specific mention of Desire reminds me of a certain messianic figure we first encounter in a part of the Void, a man famous for his discovery of a material that he could use to make mimicries of anything/anyone from the material world, who asks us simply but directly "What do you desire?"

[@umaninstrumentalityprject2989]

A 2h long video essay like this deserves more recognition

[@SocraTetris]

I'm quite happy with how the video launched. I would love for it to blow up of course, but everyone here has been so understanding and excited. I couldnt ask for more!

[@ChumEater1]

“Jetstream s- I mean Arthur” XD

[@jamalmalik3617]

@@valor1omega "Jetstream Sam" A character from Metal gear rising.

[@YouLegend-yi8rm]

For some reason after beating whispers in the walls the vessel that was possessed by the man in the wall in the last mission has a heartbeat when I go next to it in the sanctum anatomica which makes me think that some form of wally is in it (which then begs the question why Loid hasn't heard it and done anything about it😂) anyway love your videos since you're what let me truly fathom the beauty of this game's philosphy. Nothing but love and appreciation for the love and effort that gets put in these videos. ❤️

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you, YouLegend. Trust we will definitely be getting into that.

[@chloeforisty9180]

If Mara was another name for a demon, then maybe Void Demon? Which can be synonymous of what Ballas has called the tenno many times, "Devils" of the void.

[@SocraTetris]

Thats the other main way that people theorized to translate it, since the sanskrit word Mara can be translated as demon. So "demon of the void," but my definition i think includes the narrative and cultural context of how the tenno came to be. But Ballas gives us narrative context too. Maybe the word will have multiple meanings?

[@azmbp2]

@@SocraTetris since Entrati’s requiems have whole entries attached to them, I had assumed that the words always had flexibility in their meanings.

[@shauntempley9757]

@@SocraTetris Some cultures use the same term for gods as well as demons. They all have one thing in common, and that is simply that those cultures place both as a sacred manner. One that is of benefit, one that is a threat. We have heard many use Mara as demon in the game, but we have heard some use Mara to mean angel as well, though this is a far rarer occurrence.

[@merelyamachine]

I’m usually a silent viewer but I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy your Warframe videos/essays. Philosophy and such is hard for me to comprehend but I find your videos easier to digest for my tiny mind. Never stop being awesome!

[@SocraTetris]

I'm glad you enjoy them mere.machine! If you find philosophy interesting, just keep engaging with the parts that spark your curiosity. I believe everyone can find value in philosophizing.

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Same! I find what I call "raw philosophy" sometimes too dense to follow. "Raw philosophy" to me is material written mostly for other philosophers to analyze and incorporate. Someone like Socra or Philosophy Tube, people who can take the jargon and turn it into regular people words, I not only can follow but find the philosophy extremely interesting now that I understand what's being talked about. For Warframe specifically Socra has opened up such amazing insights that it makes me respect DE even more because you can see they really put a lot of forethought into the story they're telling. The very, VERY weird story they're telling. 😂

[@merelyamachine]

@@ChristopherSadlowski Well said!

[@Ihrgoth]

Thank you for all your work on explaining the story of Warframe. I do not have the time to grind out all the faction ranks or find all the diary pages. So it is nice to be able to get the whole story of this expansion.

[@SocraTetris]

Glad to help, Ihrgoth! I have plenty more of these coming down the line 👍🏾

[@kuat7665]

Amazing commentary and analysis of the quest and overall lore. TY always for the high-effort and quality videos, SocraTetris 👍

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you Kuat! I will keep working to deliver this level of quality 😌

[@Epiphym]

I've been waiting with anticipation for your take on this quest!! Your videos inspire me so much and the extra knowledge makes for wonderful background noise for my ADHD brain which allows me to focus :> thank you for your hard work on all your videos ♡

[@SocraTetris]

Glad you like it Epi!

[@2ndsuspost]

Came for the lore stayed for the music. What a wild transition 😂 loved it.

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you 2ndsuspost! I'm not sure if i can make a music video for each update. But i definitely will when the inspiration strikes

[@nicholassheffield384]

I've loved your videos, theyve made me get engrossed into the warframe lore and it makes it so much more fun to play. I hope you keep making these as new content is released, my favorite is to play the story then watch your video so i understand it better

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you Nicholas! I dont plan on stopping anytime soon!

[@benruniko]

Hahaha the reference to the Control song is top notch 😂

[@SocraTetris]

I kept it subtle. But the people in the know will have a lot of chances to point at the screen! XD

[@guyzero9]

Sucks that the 1999 intro cutscene had to be copyright-ridden. I hadn't heard that song until the first trailer for Whispers was dropped and I've listened to it so many times since then. Of course, now there's a new one for us to listen to, one that I really like, but it doesn't hit as hard as Into the Void

[@SocraTetris]

It was so funny how I was exposed to this song. Because the trailer was the first time i heard it. But then a week later my wife plays the song for me to discuss the lyrics. And i say to her, "Oh, the Warframe song! Did you overhear me playing it and look it up?" And she's like, "... No? What?" So we listen to the song. I'm telling her are creepy accurate to warframe it is. I show her the trailer. And then i see "Into the Void" by Stupendium show up in my "watch again" search results. (Listened to it a lot as Control was coming out years ago.) That's what sparked the idea. I pivoted from using Nowhere King from Centaur World as the theming, and started making the parody song. Still ended up using Nowhere King as well.

[@jeanneb6320]

My wife returns to Warframe every so often and has tried explaining the lore to me. I had found you through some other game vids, so when I saw you drop this I told her we should go through your series! What an absolute treasure full of insightful commentary, the passion is very tangible.

[@SocraTetris]

Awww that's awesome! I also started making these videos for my spouse! I am glad you were able to share this

[@octavioselgas4653]

I appreciate how your Gyre loudout improved significantly through the video lmao

[@SocraTetris]

It got even better after the video! I literally just chose gyre because i thought the aesthetic matched. Ended up using her as my main for the entire run of syndicate quests

[@benthasome]

​@@SocraTetriswouldn't qorvex be the best choice technically?

[@SocraTetris]

Yes, but you can use one of gyre's augment mods to make her 3 and Ult last forever. Uly strikes on status effect, Combined with gotva prima ability to get +300% crit chance on status effect, plus the chain-lighting effect of the abilities. It very efficient crowd control and room clears all at once

[@TheBaxter27]

Sad I couldn't catch the premier of this, but happy to see you've knocked it out of the park again. Whispers has some of my favorite story beats in Warframe and considering them again with these biblical (and overall cultural) themes made them even more enjoyable. Tbh, with how much emphasis Warframe puts on emotion and empathy, I'm really curious how they'll tackle the aspect of romantic love (especially the development of it, I guess we've seen plenty of established relationships) with the dating sim aspect of 1999. But I'm equally as excited about what you're cooking up for Dante.

[@SocraTetris]

I'm SO excited for the dating sim of 1999. I'm gonna try for an every-happy polycule if they'll let me!

[@mprojekt72]

I came for philosophy shared through the medium of games, I found we shared an interest in bio-mechanical space shinobi, and I continue to stay for all of that... Also, for the mad beats. 😁

[@SocraTetris]

Glad i can keep delivering for you, Maehara!

[@chasethecringewolf2195]

Haven’t even started the video but I wanted to state for the record when Wally appears on the Vessel’s head it does the perfect embodiment of “Locking in.” 35:17

[@ryanmack99]

Man i napped through the live premiere 😂 my walls should have yelled to wake me up

[@SocraTetris]

You'll catch the next one!

[@PrincessTidge]

@@ryanmack99 You. Are. Late.

[@ryanmack99]

​@@SocraTetris 1:09:50 damn now I REALLY wish I was here for the live chat 🎵🎶

[@ryanmack99]

​@@PrincessTidgeI am often late 😂 So many parallels. I'm late, yet born irl in 1999, and used to get my plat with steam giftcards from an EB Games in a mall very similar to the upcoming hub, greasy pizza and all

[@Argyle117]

I’ll be honest, I didn’t realize Arthur was the colossus until like weeks later when I watched a video on lore. And it bugs me on that opening scene introducing Arthur that they took the time in animating him pulling the charging handle on the correct side of the gun, but two seconds prior he reloads a empty magazine with another empty magazine.

[@ryanmack99]

Animators/ filmakers have never made very good gunsmiths, but they're getting better at least. We went from bottomless magazines to John Wick. It's still pretty fantastical, but there are games and movies focused more on faithful recreations. Besides, when Warframe realistically models magazines we get the cursed Penta magazine Riven people who keep me up at night.

[@SocraTetris]

Its that video game logic. A new magazine always comes out of Hammer Space, or enemies coincidentally has the exact magazine we need. Sadly, with Game Informer shut down, Warframe is stuck reading Vogue and TIME instead.

[@PrincessTidge]

Damn, I forgot just how heartbreaking the Cavia's story was 😭

[@SocraTetris]

It is so dark and so tragic. Makes one want to not think about its implications

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this one

[@SocraTetris]

Hope you like it!

[@CZOM027]

The Cavia can get pretty heavy handed with the subjects it aproaches in their conversations, it got a bit, real at times.

[@SocraTetris]

I like how they hit the nail on the head though. Relatively few lines can take on a lot of meanings thanks to them not beating around the bush

[@CZOM027]

@@SocraTetris Oh make no mistake, it was a coment full of praise to the writing and voice acting present in their dialogue.

[@MalTheMostTired]

The rap @1:08:42

[@kaijukingofthemonsters1075]

This is a fun thing I realized Whenever you hear that "thum thum thum" in the Sanctum, if you listen closely you'll actually realize its Wally saying Rap Tap Tap!

[@SocraTetris]

Perhaps. Though I always figured raptaptap was Rell. The Thum noise could very well be the sound Wally was making that Rell was verbalizing

[@davidmendis1820]

Much love. Thank you!

[@SocraTetris]

Same to you!

[@hunterjones9935]

As soon as I heard the beat for "Slide into the Void," I got so excited. Good job dude! I've been watching your videos for about a year now, and I love how much you're advancing your content and experimenting with more and more editing styles. Looking forward to the next one!

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you, Hunter! I've also been excited to see how many people here were also fans of Stupendium. Small world!

[@hunterjones9935]

@SocraTetris It tripped me up for a second. I couldn't believe it and had to check the description to make sure I wasn't going crazy lol

[@hunterjones9935]

@@SocraTetris Did I hear a little bit of The Nowhere King song in there, too?

[@SocraTetris]

Yes you did, legally distinct inspiration

[@OblivionCairn]

You're gonna upload that parody song, right? It was lovely to listen to being a fan of both Warframe and the Stupendium, it's nice to see niches colide in their own ways.

[@SocraTetris]

I definitely will in a couple weeks. Just gotta give this video some room to keep the spotlight

[@francescog.g1238]

Hi Socratetris, I love your creations, the time and dedication behind them. Wish you the best :)

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you for the vote of confidence, Frances! Glad to have you as well!

[@_pyza_]

Glad to see another vid from You :)

[@severdislike4222]

I see someone is a massive stupendium fan :D

[@SocraTetris]

Like its a bit of a problem actually 😅

[@severdislike4222]

​@@SocraTetris Not alone on that. Ad Infinitum was stuck in my head for a solid month.

[@benthasome]

I really wish that you would post your version of Into the Void as a standalone video with maybe more refined singing (or just like that)

[@SocraTetris]

I will do that, Benthasome. Just like with the Kullervo music video. I'm gonna give it some time to breath though. KZbin's algorithm is funny and might stop recommending this video if i upload the music video too soon

[@benthasome]

​@@SocraTetriswhat is your prediction of releasing the song?

[@The18k]

Poor Minn😭

[@SocraTetris]

For real. DE needs to let us go back in time, grab her, and just bring her back. For real for real

[@pastelprincess2018]

Wake up babe, a new SocraTetris video dropped!

[@SocraTetris]

Ty for being here, pastelprincess!

[@tetiitet]

Fr, the gargoyle events is the best events ever, since u can fight 3 bosses at once 😂 mocking whisper, void angels, and the fragmented ones

[@SocraTetris]

It was qild warching peeps who were not prepared started fighting 3 bosses at the same time.

[@thebigbrzezinski3201]

Think we could get a short excerpt video of the segment from an hour and seven minutes in, maybe with the specific nature of the Vox Solaris spoiler cut out? It's a very good summation of Warframe's aesthetic heart, but it's a bit too long for a clip.

[@SocraTetris]

Hey bigbrzezinski. Unfortunately i don't think that would be very good for the health of the channel. Reupping a small segment that is too long for a short or a clip wouldn't be a great idea. I'm making some youtube shorts out of the full video, so it mat fall into those. Alternatively, i would encourage you to take my video, remove the spoiler per your preference, and upload it yourself. Just tag me and link my channel when you do. 👍🏾

[@F-aber]

22:23 that wasn’t an urban legend, Y2K was a real thing, the reason why there weren’t any big problems is because people took it seriously and programmers worked their asses off to fix these problems

[@SocraTetris]

So i was like 8 years old at the time. I cant say what programmers were doing. But the rumor of y2k destroying all the computers was definitely being treated like a ubran legend. A doomsday hypothesis that most people ignored as a silly superstition. My father had also worked with Arpanet and some of the earliest military computers/internets while in the airforce. At the time he was also treating it like a superstition. So my general impression was that it was a superstition created by people who were not tech savvy. And that the problem they can predicted dodnt have a basis in how computers functioned or tracked time. And that's what happened. Older computers still worked after 1/01/2000, and still tracked the time correctly, even without being updated. The clock rolling over to 0s didnt happen/ would not brick a PC.

[@F-aber]

@@SocraTetris I was also young at the time but I know my uncle had worked over a year on making the systems for his company safe

[@SocraTetris]

They likely were taking precautions to make sure it didn't. A lot of people did take it seriously and wanted to ensure they wouldnt be caught unawares

[@jeremiahchaneldoherty821]

20:30 can we get: Jetstream Sam gang here!!!

[@SocraTetris]

🎶~Violence breeds violence! But in the end it has to be this way! ~🎶

[@jeremiahchaneldoherty821]

@@SocraTetris 🎶~The only thing I know for real, there will be BLOOD SHED!!! THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODDED HIS HEAD~🎶

[@bloodglacier]

Caught me off guard with this banger at 1:08:40

[@SocraTetris]

I'm glad you like it! I waant sure how this one would go over with people. :)

[@josephbustin5802]

I kind of love how warframe treats its story telling at times especially how theyll use both metaphor and implication one moment and be extremely literal the next. "Our eyes and ears" are literal eyes and ears and Wally is a literal man in a literal wall lol Great song break by the way love stupendiums work and into the void is one of my favourites

[@SocraTetris]

Glad you have fun Joseph!

[@annalevi4399]

What a great video! You are truly advancing your craft with each video and it is a delight to experience them. Also was that the song of the nightmare king in the last half hour or so?

[@SocraTetris]

Yes it was! (Legally distinct soundalike i made). And i'm glad you can see it. I often feel like my skills arent progressing meaningfully. So that's very nice to hear :)

[@UNGGodYT]

the song: 1:08:38 seeing this video and all the previous, i start to believe the Void is just emotion given form, taken how it only interact under extreme emotion, tenno despair to survive, albert despair to be acknowledged, parvos despair to see the future, can also be linked to deadly sins, albert pride, parvo greed, tenno sloth.

[@asherplease1957]

Sir, is that some Centaur World music mixed in there?

[@SocraTetris]

Aye, that it be

[@gunziro169]

The prototype warframes man mixed with infested I wonder if he was a template of some kind to create other Excalibur like warframes

[@SocraTetris]

Albrecht's codex entries state Arthur was the template for the vessels, so technically true

[@michaelcoleman9044]

Bird 3 is the telos for objective morality. I would die for Bird 3.

[@SocraTetris]

We must all strive to be bird 4. I support this new religion

[@Pattow_Pattow]

cant believe we got jetstream sam and aiden pearce in the same quest

[@coolgamer3646]

I first didn't like the song but I came back to it cause it was in my head lol

[@SocraTetris]

I got that earworm power, lol. Standalone song video drops tomorrow

[@Starcalledd]

WOOO ANOTHER GYRE ENJOYER LESGOOO

[@SocraTetris]

Gyre is great in the sanctum

[@Starcalledd]

@@SocraTetris hell yeah, she just vaporizes the entire tile by existing I love her

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Another SocraTetris video I'm going to have to watch about five times before all the information finally settled into my little ape brain...

[@SocraTetris]

I appreciate the watch time 🙏🏾

[@Seelensocke]

Can we please talk about how Albrecht Entrati and the Man in the Wall are basically every H.P. Lovecraft protagonist fighting against the cosmic horror, even the writing style is on point.

[@SocraTetris]

I think it's close, but I'm not quite seeing specific allusions. There is absolutely room for a cosmic horror reading of the story though

[@Crackgearson]

When the Depresssed Cat is more intelligent than the Fish, Human Butler and Bird, says alot

[@SocraTetris]

I would say Bird is the wisest of the bunch

[@ardekakka]

that song went so fucking HARD

[@SocraTetris]

Thank you, arde :)

[@iandur5601]

Btw DE said that you won’t get a copyright strike for using into the void by Nine inch nails

[@SocraTetris]

Sadly, whem i tried to upload it, I still got a copyright flag and the video's monetization would have been captured. That's why i made the royalty free version, which is also available on my channel for other content creators to use.

[@Seelensocke]

I want Wally's voice as music in the next OST.

[@SocraTetris]

It would be cool to see the Wally voices put to music somehow, 100

[@LORDMEHMOODPASHA]

20:31 Hey man, we all thought the same thing but then again we are diving into a fragmented a memory...a broken memory if you will and it is common knowledge that memories broken, the truth goes unspoken I've even forgotten my name I don't know the season or what is the reason I'm standing here holding my blade A desolate place (place) Without any trace (trace) It's only the cold wind I feel It's me that I spite as I stand up and fight The only thing I know for real There will be blood (blood) shed (shed) The man in the mirror nods his head The only one (one) left (left) Will ride upon the dragon's back Because the mountains don't give back what they take Oh no, there will be blood (blood) shed (shed) It's the only thing I've ever known!!! Losing my identity Wondering, "Have I gone insane?" To find the truth in front of me I must climb this mountain range Looking downward from this deadly height and never realizing why I fight

[@morezombies9685]

What is this bit at the very beginning from?

[@SocraTetris]

From the same quest. It's how it started. A screensaver wtih voidtongue

[@morezombies9685]

@@SocraTetris ah ok thank you so much! I havent played wf for a looooong time and my algo reccomended you cause Ive been catching up on the lore. Fantastic work my friend!

[@SocraTetris]

Glad you liked it, morezombies!

[@84m30]

So are Stalker and/or Jade sapient frames like Umbra? Clearly if they are they maintain a much more refined degree of individualism and cognizance, being able to maintain more than one memory, and form a unique personality after the transformation separate from, but connected to, who they were before

[@SocraTetris]

I think so. As well as Kullervo and Dante. Maybe Dagath as well. Maybe all the frames are Sapient to some degree, and are just more or less able to act independently

[@tomagee420]

The goat returns

[@SocraTetris]

🎉🐐🎉

[@XinzoEmora]

2hr vid?!?! That's nothing 🤣 just got done listening to the silmarillion for 14hrs so this was light work. Love your content mate ❤️

[@SocraTetris]

Bruh, i got the Silmarillion beat if you watch my full playlist on warframe lore. By like 2x. Tolkien get on my level! Lol.

[@XinzoEmora]

@@SocraTetris massive comp vid when? Jkjk

[@SocraTetris]

I wish! Youtibe has a 12h max vidlength

[@XinzoEmora]

@@SocraTetris wow that's lame as hell. I'd %1000 watch a 20+ hour vid of your content if it was an option 🤣

[@sahid2_-]

1:00:00 from what i understood when i played it was that wally was manifesting loid negative feelings and just as how the tenno calms the minds of the warframes by jumping to the vessel we were able to calm loids heart in a sense. But then, when you do the netracell mission. You see that theres artwork of the protoframes, mag, excalibur, the new frame of 1999 and i think volt was the other one so the vessels being built around the map was for those protoframes specifically but then at the end we jumped into one that looks like loid but was the same one used for arthur. So that part threw me off. Im still watching video and i dont know the lore well either so im going based from what i interpreted when i played it when it came out

[@SocraTetris]

I would say that the vessels arent necessary tied directly to specific warframes as their archetypes, but more that these were foreshadowing of the different protoframes we will see in Warframe 1999. Personally, i dont think the vessel looks particularly like Loid or Arthur. I think Loid can simply empathize with the gesture because of his own experience and our channeling of Albrecht's emotions at that moment. But it also seems that using the Vessels is how our consciousness can use transference back in time. So it may be easier to think of the vessels as representing the 1999 characters more than representing a warframe

[@sahid2_-]

@SocraTetris the vessels look alot like loid but with no hair but i see what you mean. Theyre not tied to anyone but a vessel to be used in order to jump into others via time instead of how operator uses void to jump bodies only in the present

[@F-aber]

I wonder if they ever change their mind and make dark sector canon

[@SocraTetris]

I've just decided it is. Headcanon is a powerful weapon

[@F-aber]

@@SocraTetris fair enough lol

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

They can't. Don't own the rights

[@rishanrashed831]

LEYS GOOOO NEW VIDEO ABT SPACE DOCTOR

[@SocraTetris]

What's that boi up to!? No one knows!

[@МихаилГрибоедов-м4ф]

Really good job. Now do it with lotus eaters, and do it with same length of the video

[@SocraTetris]

I will just talk REALLY SLOWLY! then timestretch the audio to make me sound like a malfunctioning robot.

[@drezz1686]

1:38:41 nowhere king theme plays :D

[@SocraTetris]

Legally distinct

[@Vordt_]

its a pager not a cellphone

[@SocraTetris]

🎉 yay! So I misrepresented it on purpose specifically to get thos comment. Thank you for algorithm assistance 🥳🙏🏾

[@thimovijfschaft3271]

I Googled a bit about pagers (I was born in 97 so too young to know about it) and appearantly they are still being used during crises because they use satellites instead of landbased phonetowers. Another interesting thing is that the message sending and receiving system is host based so technically they would work in real time to when one of the 2 ends would time travel. Unlike modern phones where messaging goes through internet and phone towers.

[@sungodmattie6693]

BARSSS

[@HarumeHikariSeki]

I know this has nothing to do with Warframe, but... Is that the instrumental of "The Nowhere King" playing in the background from time to time? Or is it some song that sounds similar?

[@SocraTetris]

You heard right! I made a distinct soundalike. But thematically on point, because Nowhere King existing in an empty space between realities has the same vibe as The Man In the Wall.

[@moondog548]

We were not worthy of that epic rap!!!

[@aristellaikuden1375]

I got to ask I saw no one else ask in the comments. Is that the no where king lullaby playing behind your speaking segments?

[@SocraTetris]

I made a legally distinct soundalike, so yes. It's thematically appropriate i think.

[@aristellaikuden1375]

@@SocraTetris I absolutely loved it and it is the perfect background music for the otherworldly subject matter

[@imerebus]

Why was there a half time song?

[@SocraTetris]

Why not?

[@imerebus]

@@SocraTetrisfair

[@pythonxz]

I think DE is going to impress, and the new war was a pretty high bar.

[@SocraTetris]

100

[@madeebail9771]

I'm little interested first i saw it as a lord nerd and i am be the one who frequent ask about warframe lord in my community

[@SPARTANT-hs2vo]

Shore!!! 1:13:54

[@SocraTetris]

Shore?

[@mo_shiota1637]

Sry to be that guy but with regards to your notes on brutalism: in the Soviet union, the use of brutalist architecture was indeed used as one way to adress homelessness as tsarist russia had more homeless than any other country in Europe. The Soviet union through the use of brutalist style buildings managed to within less than a few decades eradicate homelessness completely. The discontinued use of brutalist buildings is largely due to capitalism taking over in former Soviet states and since then caused these buildings to crumble because it's simply more profitable when people die in the streets.

[@SocraTetris]

I think you misunderstand a discussion of Brutalism as an architecture movement broadly, versus what happened to Brutalist endeavors as a result of political history. That said, you would need to provide very convincing evidence that 1) soviet Russia had a 0% homelessness population, and that such claims were not propaganda, and 2) that the brutalist architecture which succeeded at bringing homelessness to 0% were intentionally left to break in order to cause homelessness. These arent the kind of claims that I will simply accept on its face. Especially when you are using very broad terminology to identify your groups here.

[@alejamonyqueso1379]

6:54 AMONG US??

[@SocraTetris]

Carching references is also sus

[@murfik69]

No more songs please! 😅 Otherwise amazing video - as always 😇

[@SocraTetris]

Hate to break it to ya, murf. But people are liking the song. Got a lot of good reception and my audience retention jumps when we hit the song. I got other good news for ya. Lots of people don't like the song. I have another audience retention jump right after the song, meaning a lot of people are just skipping it. So yes/no. I will always keep never making more songs for the last time and every time from here on, definitely.

[@murfik69]

@@SocraTetris haha love the reply brother 😀 and to be clear I did not skip the song I did watch the whole thing and I totally appreciated the lyrics - I think I'm just more into spoken word poetry than rap 😅

[@Erox006]

you didn't read the things in the walls ? 5:31

[@SocraTetris]

Perhaps you could provide the translation?

[@Smallpages]

22:18: The Luddite Y2K Urban Legend, why call it Luddite? and i would like to know what the urban legend is? Y2K was a real problem and people worked hard to solve it before 2000, that's why not much happened back then. Edit: i see that someone else asked before, sorry for the repeat.

[@SocraTetris]

No worries, and thank you for checking the other comments. Mainly i used the word luddite to capture the feeling of moment. How it was treated as a sort of doomsday prophecy. And while a lot of good work was done as a precaution, much of the fear was overblown

[@Smallpages]

@@SocraTetris You are right, it was overblown, i remember watching TV with my father before midnight, there was a live show, it's a whole new year/century with 3 zeroes, it was exciting and there was hope in the air. The TV show was trying to find problems, found nothing of course, years later i read stories about weird bugs in some databases where a baby for example is thought to be 104 years old or and old person found out that they are now 7 years old 😅 I'll admit that using the word Luddites upsets me a little because i read about their history a lot, they were never against new technology, but the word now is used for anyone who is technophobe or even a tech critic.

[@SocraTetris]

Oh yeah. I'm definitely not using the word in yhe older historical sense. Just how the word has come to be used contemporary

[@xhyckoh]

* - *

[@THE1vbLLover69_]

I had to stop everything I was doing a STUPENDIUM reference. Cover rather. I'm so glad :O

[@SocraTetris]

Glad you liked it!

[@bunnyprowler]

32:00 we already know what mara lohk means, it means void child.

[@SocraTetris]

You seem quite certain. We know it refers to the tenno, and that lohk means void. Mara has not been given a translation in game. I went over all this context in the video mate.

[@GhostRydr1172]

​@SocraTetris Mara also has the Jewish context of "bitter", which you could maybe sorta recontextualize to anger, wrath or fury? Maybe it'd be best to try to move away from known real terms to find meaning in made up words and let DE state what it actually means, if they want to that is.

[@bunnyprowler]

maybe tone it down in the religious recruitment department next content rip video you make ❤❤

[@SocraTetris]

It is not religious recruitment. Unless you feel that my video on Kullervo was recruitment for Finnish paganism. Or that my video on The New War was recruitment for the Akhenaten's Cult of Aten. Or my video on Veilbreakers was recruitment for Hinduism. Or my videos on Elden Ring were recruitment for Gnosticism, Judaism, and Nietzschean atheistic Nihilism. Or that my video in Nietzschean philosophy in Nier Automata was recruitment for... Nihilism again. Or my video on Tales of Zestiria was recruitment for Shinto. Aye, no, you're right. I just shouldn't talk about religion even if it is directly relevant to the philosophy and culture. Next time I'll censor myself just for you and your values.

[@bunnyprowler]

@SocraTetris all I am saying is the origins of so many religious references they do, actually comes from before christianity or abrahamic religions. These abrahamic religions just appropiate them and took "pagan traditions" as theirs. Feels very inaccurate to not cite the original sources of these and go with the appropriated and water down versions. Feels like it was very much intended to demonstrate how certain abrahamic religion has all the answers when originally it came from somewhere else.

[@SocraTetris]

Sure thing, buddy. I'll take the bait. You go ahead and list every single one of the "original sources" for everything mentioned in the video that I intentionally propagandized. Tell me about Zoroastrianism. Tell me about the Epic of Gilgamesh. Make sure none of your original sources have any predating culture that could have gradually developed from another culture over time.We must always only discuss what came before abrahamic religions whenever you want to discuss the hundreds of years of those religions developing their own cultures. Because I definitely did this with mal-intent rather than just identifying where these things lined up. Warframe definitely didn't call an enemy field boss an Angel because of christian themes. In prior videos, I definitely didn't discuss the cultural exchange between Greek and Egyptian cultures through the depictions of Zeus-Amun. I definitely never talked about historical Nataruk significance of Nataruk or retranslate and perform the ancient Egyptian sebayt the Dispute Between a Man and His Ba. Nope, I always make sure to not explore any cultures or ideas that predate christianity or judaism because I am an Abrahamic propagandist. Is that what you want to hear, buddy? No go on. Do your homework and list out every cultural reference in the quest I should have said instead of any allusion to christianity. Do it for each and every one I mentioned. Don't miss a single one, because any omission is necessarily intentional rhetoric and manipulation of the facts. (tldr, you're arguing in bad faith. Write your own essay, or get on your bike.)