Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Review - A truly phenomenal cRPG, once you get past the bugs anyway!

[@Gamesear]

I've also taken the opportunity to create a brief Beginner's Guide. So if you're planning to dive into Rogue Trader and want to start off on the right foot, I'd appreciate it if you checked it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIi6hHqdnNqsmbM Cheers!

[@ThisIsYourGodNow]

Just one more quest... Then i can sleep aka lie in bed awake thinking of how i should respec everyone

[@kylemac8672]

I'm just starting, how hard is it to respec? I'm thought my forgeworld commisar would be able to use his int in place of all fellowship checks, but it doesn't seem to be the case

[@yamata2001]

​@@kylemac8672once you're done with retaking the ship and now start on the bridge just talk to High Factotum Janris Danrok on the bridge. Haven't respec myself so I don't know if it'll cost you profit factor.

[@charlescarnegie9380]

Man, I have never related so much to a comment then this at the moment. I have to specifically not play during my work days because of this...

[@sandman4663]

I loaded a save that was nearing 3 hours old because I was unhappy with a major choice I made. Never before have I done that in a game. I'm still enjoying every bit of those reloaded 3 hours. What a fantastic game

[@some_random_guy_mk2]

Loving this so far. No major bugs yet. Levelling up legit takes me 30 minutes just deciding on best options for each character. 🤔 😄

[@MCPBA000]

Great review. I've played Rogue Trader a bit as well as Owlcat's previous games and I'm feeling the same way as you with my time with the game.

[@MrKidKiedis]

Haven't found any major issues, but a ton of smaller ones. Most problems are with animations. Anyway the game is incredible! Guess it's the first time when I don't miss a single description or dialog in RPG)

[@hexcrab7344]

Talents, casual, talent bug issues

[@LoiteringReaper]

Beautiful story telling for a top down rpg. Totally relate to my ruinous sleep schedule. But I keep admiring the artwork when they are the background focus of the screen.

[@LoiteringReaper]

The long wait time between some turn may have something to do with the complex calculations.

[@popkhorne5372]

I'm just hyped to play this. I think i can wait a month or two tho, hopefully by then they'll have fixed many bugs.

[@jonathanpickles2946]

I'm on the cusp of being bugged out in act 4. I'm pretty oblivious to graphic bugs and lot of glitches can be resolved by save & reload. I hate the mechanics not working properly but that is also minor in the grand scheme of things, as are those times when you duplicate a character... The killers are when quests don't complete properly, which happened once or twice in acts 1-3 but is very common in Act 4. Anyhow agree with the analysis, good review. You can generally avoid the trash fights when travelling by upgrading the routes to yellow or green. It's not ideal to gate this behind a strategic choice. There are some pretty broken builds - I can give my party +100% armour as the first action in every fight which as you say pretty much means I have won regardless of how many enemies are involved. I'm not sure how long this will seem fun especially being bugged in act 4 but it's OK for now.

[@ombra711]

They're slowly doing the math automatically, which was insane to forget to do from the beginning, I had no idea some of these skills were so great because fuck math.

[@pedropierre9594]

Im waiting for them to improve performance on PC because it makes my GPU heat up like no other game ever has, and its hot

[@freelancershogun]

I enjoyed your review - - well done!

[@ombra711]

Get the game on PC, the Toybox is the only thing that makes it playable for me, I'm too old for a lot of the tedium, and I take full advantage!😂

[@roguerifter9724]

I used Toybox once because I missed the option I wanted for the Cassia romance by one point. At the time I thought my mistake was probably a day's worth of play or more. It was only later I realized my mistake was only around an hour before the deciding point.

[@SovereignRO]

Game is very good, no argument there, graphics are very unpolished in some cases especially, a step down from Pathfinder, aaand its very bugy, im already stuck and have to wait for the next patch. Give it some time if you haven't played it yet.

[@kalenics123]

Wait half a year before buying, it is a buggy mess, we are proud of you Owlcat again.

[@OOOO-fb5gf]

It cannot possibly be more complicated than pathfinder! Can it??

[@Gamesear]

You can make a good argument for either game. On one hand it's less complicated since Pathfinder nowadays has a million different classes and abilities thanks to the DLCs. On the other hand, Rogue Trader's abilities and items feel like they are much deeper and have much more synergy with each other.

[@PocSnigo]

i crave the story but combat feels so wonky to me :( i have a lot of experience with all the owlcat games and have played bg3 since the first day it hit EA so im used to crpgs and whatnot but it just feels like im just constantly fighting with not a lot of story progression compared to how much im battling. I guess thats not a huge issue but even when i am wayyyy stronger than the enemy and can one shot them the fights still take too long for what shouldve been a quick destruction for my enemies. Anyone have any advice? does it hit a better ratio of fighting/story a little later on? i want to play this so bad but i cant get past the combat feeling boring and extremely slow

[@Gamesear]

It's a good news/bad news kind of situation. The good news is that once your characters are leveled up and better geared, it'll become easier and easier to blow through encounters. The bad news, if you don't like the combat anyway, is that there's still a lot of it and no real way to avoid fighting. That said, if you only care about the story and don't want the combat, you could tweak the difficulty so you basically insta-win fights. It's not the most exciting way to play, but the option's there if you want it.

[@red2977]

Seems like it will be a great game when patched up. So I guess the question I have is whether this is a company that patches their games and keeps working on polishing them after release and if they do so rather quickly or if it takes years.

[@Gamesear]

So far Rogue Trader is following in the exact same footsteps as Owlcat's previous two games, so there's likely going to be a free Enhanced Edition half a year to a year later that will add new content, fix most of the pressing issues and make the game straight up amazing. Until then, I'm expecting mostly hotfixes for the major problems and softlocks people ran into.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

Hope Owl Games would do Dark Heresy, Wraith and Glory or Maledictum games in future

[@Gamesear]

I doubt they're going to move to a different game system any time soon. But, if Wrath of the Righteous' DLCs are any indication, there's a decent chance they'll experiment with different settings and themes so we might still get a 'you're now the inquisition and everything's gone to hell, good luck!' style of campaign.

[@Алексей545-т6б]

@@Gamesear What i mean by that - make "Wrath of the rightest" (Dark Heresy, Wraith and Glory or Maledictum) to their "King Maker" (Rouge Trader)

[@Gamesear]

​@@Алексей545-т6б Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that would be pretty fun!

[@TheGoreforce]

Is wrath of the rightest trump? where all the liberal lies about him are true and when elected there will be dethcamps?@@Алексей545-т6б

[@d3ad2r1ghts]

I wish all dialog was voiced kinda ruins immersion making up voices in my head for npcs

[@Gamesear]

It would be a completely different game if they did that. Full voice acting would mean less choices and less overall dialogue since recording the current script would take forever and be ridiculously expensive. So while it would be cool, I think it would come with a few too many caveats to be worth it. That said, what could happen in a couple of years is that AI voice acting becomes good enough to fill in the blanks. I've seen mods for World of Warcraft that tried to create voice acting for the quests there, and while they're not the best right now, a little more time could definitely change that. So who knows, maybe there'll be a similar Rogue Trader mod in the future.

[@d3ad2r1ghts]

@@Gamesear the path way lol

[@ombra711]

The game would be double the download size, there is a LOT of text.

[@d3ad2r1ghts]

@ombra711 the text didn't even show up until new playthrough after yesterdays update. It bugged out my first playthrough showed me end credits and gave me all achievements It looked like they had huge development team I mean bgs3 spent heavily into since this game so dialog heavy

[@TheGoreforce]

because it's not all voiced... we have more dialogue options... which is sweet we can ask for more exposition and even more choices and consequences can happen. If they do make a full VO including narrator, you will have less options and it'll be more akin to BG3. While BG3 does have important decisions, you aren't going to learn much about that ancient temple that the cresche was within save for a few paragraph book. Compare those books to the books in pillars of eternity... if those where voiced like the books in diablo 3 and diablo 4, we will have a couple paragraph long book rather than a story across multiple books. Hell grim dawn's books are more interesting and helps the world building compared to the books in BG3. I think there is more than enough room for this kinda budget as long as we have more choices or more responses that help inform you about the world.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

I am hard locked un act4 because of a bug. They should not have released this as a full game. Act 4 and 5 are w shambles.

[@Gamesear]

Not sure where you got stuck, but maybe try the Toy Box mod if you're on PC? The Pathfinder equivalent saved my playthrough back in the day.

[@avalokiteshvara113]

@@Gamesear yeah Toybox works but you have to use it for almost everything in act 4 and 5

[@Gamesear]

@@avalokiteshvara113 Bummer. Guess I got off lucky then, because outside of being stuck in that damned maze for way too long, it was smooth sailing.

[@Dracobyte]

Let's gooo!!!

[@Pharaphel]

I think the complaing problem with complexity is from diferent kind of RPG players. Let's say some chill dude is playing another Bethesda pearl like Starfield, the game presented as an RPG and then this chill dude decides to play game like this, also called an RPG, poor dude might be little bit confused, that there is actually game to play and not just imagine it. If you can't handle the game, lower the difficulty and play whatever build with whomever in story mode, or just try to actually read the game mechanics. And with bugs - you can't f bear in rogue trader, but BG3 after release was insane mess compare to this.

[@lufasumafalu5069]

crap game for playee new to wh40