Warhammer 40k Tacticus - Why are Thousands Skipping Guild War?

[@ishalamboo6446]

You make some good points, but your perspective is competitive. For a casual guild like mine, we just want to play fun battles or get rewards to improve our roster. What do we get? Long, painful battles on annoying maps with our own roster downscaled into oblivion, the enemy buffed and supported by summons that clog up the map.And for playing up to 60 of those, the rewards are determined mostly by how many active players we have vs the opponents. At this point I got my Rotbone and I'm mostly playing to help friends get theirs. We regularly have members signing up for defense and then barely playing offense. I don't know why people would skip signing up entirely, but I'm not far from telling members to just collect from bot defenders and suicide the rest to collect the minimum rewards quickly.

[@AFAndersen]

Weirdly enough, our guild has higher participation than ever. When the feature was new, we had maybe 10-12 people sign up, some rounds less than 10 so we couldn't participate. It's slowly gone up every guild war, and this time around we have a new record with 23. We have 3 players below level 20, so they can't sign. So out of 27 eligable players, 23 signed up and the rest has not been online the last 3 days. But we talk alot, we plan, we win and overcome. Sometimes we've won against guilds that outnumber us heavily, sometimes we lose hard, sometimes it comes down to 2000 points out of 150k. It's actually reall fun with casual players!

[@PenguinPower71]

Because the ai is trash, the mechanics are balanced awfully, rewards are not worth the effort, they make us log in just to click sign up and they can't monetize it as heavily as legendary events. All this leads what it seems like less bodies actually working on it.

[@robertserrano8992]

It's the damn buffs.

[@jacksonville9642]

+ Why are thousands skipping guild w- - Because it sucks + No but why are they skip- - Because it sucks

[@felaxwindwalker206]

It could also be the grind involved in Guild Wars. It doesn't help how long the seasons last for.

[@angelotana3040]

If they added a shop item.....3x.legendary books for 3000, every day then I guarantee every single person beyond level 35 would be playing it religiously

[@OrginalRaxor]

we play level 1, and had a lot of really close and fun battles.... but yeah we did get roflstomped a few times, and also roflstomped some a few times.. This was is the first war where we have 20+ people signed up, 3 wars ago we had 11, now at 21 As a smaller, never players, who still hasnt got Rotbone and Deathleaper... the rewards are great....however once i get both of those, maybe the rewards would feel less so. One thing they COULD do is, make it so that the Heroes you can buy in the shop change around a bit, maybe between 10 heroes rather than just the same 3... Or make it the 3 there is now, but make a random 10 tokens of a random hero every day, at say 1600 price...and able to buy it twice (with the refresh).. Would be a nice way to unlock some of the heroes that you cannot farm, and would not be to fast.

[@levyyy56156]

Everytime i see GW content the majority of people complain on how unbalanced it is, cause the defenders are just too op. Everytime devs patch the game mode is to make defenders even more op, so i dont really understand what they r going for. For me and a lot of people in my guild this mode just sucks hard.

[@roundwoundsounds4316]

Was part of a very successful GW guild, top 30/40, played at lvl 5. The grind of GW's got to me though and I basically quit the game because of it, just too long a season, too big a time sink and rewards were rubbish. I've since started playing more casually without doing any GW's and I'm back to enjoying the game again. If GW's popped up once or twice a month like TA it wouldn't be so bad but two straight weeks is just too much

[@michaelgreen6587]

Well Njal is bad, Deathleaper is mid, and Rotbone is cool but guild wars is now a grind for Rotbone. And I'm the guild leader for my guild, we are casual guild, around 1200 in gw. And like, setting up the guild war takes time and effort. If I really put time in, its like a hour? But maybe 20 minutes. And it is for 6 wars. And the shop is geared pretty heavily towards old heads with that archeo tech. None of my units need that. I would shorter wars, 5 wars a season? And another row of things I can buy from the shop.

[@moreplease998]

Guild war needs to be 3 wars long. 6 is far too much and leaves people feeling war fatigue, which shouldn't be a desirable feature in a game meant to be fun

[@AdamTGlass2007]

Kage to me the numbers shift may represent the simple split between causal teams and try hard teams. I would personally hate to be on a team that had low participation and I have heard others say they have no interest…so as teams as sorting themselves out over the last few months it does make sense to me a number of causal teams would opt out of the mode. Most serious teams have standards for raid participation and wars added a new factor where players who won’t enlist leads to a kick to find someone who will. For competition minded players I think it’s a good mode, for players who are brand new or don’t care about it - probably not fun for them.

[@aloser8703]

I still enjoy it, favorite mode. But I will say it is long, lots of other things happening, and the short times between each battle makes it hard for more casual guilds. Plus rewards are now just stacking up for me, I have the characters or don’t want them. They need a shop expansion

[@tamaskarsai2072]

I can feel why people don't want to play this. I think they should nerf the extra HP from the medicae for a start. Cus when it's up, it feels like a slog to fight certain teams. Like death guard as silver 1 having as much HP as friking gold 1 characters. With a lot of armor. This is why I compare it to arena, cus it feels like arena, just you have to bring a different team every time and your opponent have stronger characters than you do, like in arena with those friking diamond characters. Some maps are also a paint to play. Those maps with the bridges... just get rid of them. I hate them all. Both in arena and here. So mostly my problem is that It's not fun to play, it just feels like a chore which I have to do every 2-3 days.

[@jameslin3458]

Are we done beta yet? Is been what 5 months ? When can we finally get some rewards we all wants exp book,lego orbs, badges, ungrindable units on rotation ect.... the list goes on and on. The amount of effort we need doesn't make the mode rewarding at all.. all these is before the shitty match making. No one likes to fight d3 with only d1s. In honestly I wish they can just nuke the mode and move the reward to other places

[@dafruk1]

I have an open guild and at any time have max 10 players lvl 20+ that could participate. Recently had a few regulars just stop playing (we kick once inactive over 10 days). So guild wars we play lvl1 and often face guilds with 5-6 actual players and a load of bot spots. Because of the bonuses it often becomes a test of 'kill the healers' for me (I'm lvl39 so almost double most guild mates) and then my teammates can grind the rest. As modes go it's not awful but not amazing and the rewards become unappealing once you've got rotbone.

[@justinLaw5]

My Guild gets a victory or 2 in each season, either level 1 or 2, we always fight at number disadvantage, truth be told attacking is a hassle for me since I'm fighting as usual and the enemy is just soaking damage like crazy

[@angelotana3040]

Also, I've got too much to do in game now. 2 Chars released, and quest was too much. I've also got about 30k credits banned, so send the XP books for sale in war shop

[@eeriedemonble8414]

To play and win in guild wars, you need big high lvl catalog of characters. And ofc getting your gold 2-3 characters destroyed by silver 1 is always fun. Balance in this mode is horrendous. It's just not fun.

[@ziplock4673]

Matchmaking is not great imo. I think it should be based mainly on number of participants. Too many times my guild only has 11-12 people sign up and for some reason we face one with 20+ people signed up. It really takes the fun out of it when 4‐5 locations are wiped away and the enemy still has more tokens than you.

[@ondrejvarga8487]

There are almost no Incentives to actually play it. SP stated the rewards are low on purpose. Now after months of testing they remain low…on purpose…With the time you have to dedicate fighting the same teams over and over being run by stupid AI buffed by ton of buffs to compensate? The resources you have to invest to build good defensive and offensive teams? Its simply ridiculous, and me and many other players (my guild is one of those “you all know who they are” in BF5 and don't want to meet) are playing only to support the guild. If I could chose between playing GW or TA, I d choose TA…and that's the mode I skip. If I did not enjoy competitive spirit in GR, I would have left my guild already, just because GW. With penalties for not having full roster playing so big, the SP is just abusing team spirit and loyalty here. If guilds were not penalized so much, a lot of players would just stop playing that forced beta test mode.

[@SimonB-d8z]

Takes too long for too little reward. Causes friction between more casual players and has cost us Guild members. Other than getting Rotbone and then up to legendary it’s become a drag. I play it to support my guild only

[@Nurglesblessed]

So I actually left my guild because of some didn't exactly try hard and another who was really into trying to win and it just became obnoxious to hear the bitching moaning and groaning for what? We were in lvl 1

[@missionslos8856]

i cant stand people that always have to win and take everything incredibly serious, i normally just cut ties with them if i notice that type of behaviour because they normally cant change it even if you try to help...

[@Nurglesblessed]

@@missionslos8856 ya unfortunately. It's not like I don't want to win but Its not worth sucking the fun out of something your trying to relax and have fun with. If I don't have fun I can't relax and if I can't relax or have fun I'm a catty bitch

[@teammunkeyhead]

Guild war is TRASH