Warhammer's Many Scandals

[@ManyKudos]

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[@dannyd464]

You mean when woke people take over a hobby and destroys it.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

Love your content but you interrupted my 20th binge-watching of The Whitest Kids U know seriously excellent content and great research but it was a great great scene I decided against at least it was the end of the episode the strip club decision it is all on KZbin I want everyone who I like to see one of my favorite comedians that is why I say this USA VPN setting for it on KZbin

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

@@dannyd464 I can't collect modern comics unless indie comics or certain graphic novels manga magazines hell my last 3 books I got was 91 toxic avenger comic, a legend of zelda manga and rock n roll ninja My opening toxie comic I almost cried because I finally had one

[@dannyd464]

@@emperortrevornorton3119 yeah the same with movies I've been watching a lot of stuff from the 80s. Some great Comics come out in the 80s, Eagle, battle, some amazing comics, Charlie's War.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

@@dannyd464 thanks I take every recommendation i take as a test before I give up on it

[@lettersandnumbers81]

The best part about GW being so protective of their IP is that almost eveything in their IP is stolen from someting else

[@cadet1ice]

This is why I really wished anyone of the fan animators took GW to court over fair use. Animators have strong case for it.

[@crowe6961]

The thieving bastards just need a lesson taught to them right at their main office. Same with every other abusive corporation on the planet.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@cadet1ice That would be really troll. Get permission from the original creator when doing wh content. When you show up say " we got permission from the people they stole their content from."

[@arthurduncan5838]

GW was the inspiration for all the IP you can think of. They WERE first. But then Blizzard did StarCraft , then came Microsoft’s Halo and the credit was got given to GW. So they are trying to put that genie back in the bottle and it ain’t going to happen

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@arthurduncan5838 yes about warhammer and blizard. They wanted to make a warhammer game but already put the effort in so they kept going.. But GW made their money off of IP theft. The wh40k symbol for the chaos gods was literally stolen from an author that I can't remember off hand.

[@Skitarii_Ranger]

oh boy gotta love that end times lore, where Skarsnik, goblin prophet of Mork, drops off the edge of the map because the writers forgot about him

[@zillafire101]

Or Malekith, the guy who tortured, murdered and drove his people and Dwarfs to near-extinction was actually the rightful king. Fucking ET.

[@BailensdeLykenos]

The End Times; *SPOILERS* Archaon BTFO's Kislev and the Northern Empire but then AFK's in Middenheim while the Skaven and Nurgle carry the war effort. Dwarfs and Skaven initiate Call of Duty. Queek gets stomped by Thorgrim. Ungrim goes Super Saiyan and snaps Ikit's neck before getting sniped. Deathmaster Eshin survives and stabs the High King before running away and cackling. Thanquol pledges his allegiance to Archaon. Tyrion gets "Madness of Khaine" debuff trait from holding the Sword for 5 turns. During this madness, High Elves have 2nd civil war. Everyone swaps sides, Malekith is now the true king, Imrik simps for Tyrion while Teclis is advised by Ladrielle, last living Elven deity, to join Malekith and unbind the vortex. Tyrion tries to claim Alarielle as Everqueen, but is stopped by Orion, they proceed to arm wrestle. As Orion is getting pinned, Alarielle duels Morathi. Both knock eachother out as Durthu saves Alarielle and gets chopped by Tyrion. At this point, world tension is maxxed. Clan Pestilens goes full Battle of the Somme and attacks Lustria. Many Rats are swallowed whole by Sotek. Ikit drops Morsleibb on Lustria. Mazdamundi activates the final protocol with his last breath and sends some skinks and kroxigors into starship temples. Kroak, finally bored of his existence, sacrifices himself with the Old Ones Shield and stops Morsliebb from destroying the rest of the world. The Elves make a final stand on the Vortex as Tyrion attacks with Mortathi. Malekith is about to loose before Alith Anar chooses the Sigma method and shoots both Tyrion and Malekith. "Madness of Khaine" fades as Tyrion dies. Malekith lays mortally wounded as Morathi starts spell spamming and releases the Vortex. Fire Magic binds itself to Ungrim, ascending him to Doom-Slayer-King Metal magic binds itself to Thorgrim as he reads THE B00K. Life magic gets bound to Allarielle Teclis tries to bind Heavens magic but miscasts. Shadow Magic binds itself to Malekith, saving him from death at the cost of turning him into the Emo-Prince. As the vortex is unbound, Ulthuan sinks, and Slaanesh devours all the waystones, and all the elven souls contained within. Slaanesh also eats Morathi. Alarielle sheperds the last of the Elves to Athel Loren via Worldroots, and Teclis sinks with his brother. Meanwhile in Altdorf, Each college has their power rangers moment fighting the Great Unclean Ones, before they are finally smushed by Ghal Maraz. Humans recollect in Altdorf after the first wave of skaven attacks before Archaon appears on the Horizon. Nagash is rezzed by Arkhan, and then vores Usirian, God of the Dead. Nagash raises his legions once more and takes over all of Nehekara. Settra allows Nagash to rez because he's bored. Battle of the Dead ensues, Nagash tries to subjugate Settra, who does not serve, so he instead breaks all of his bones and casts his skull into the sand to watch as Khemri is destroyed. Nagash is about to proclaim victory, when Mannfred teleports behind him, uses the Blessed Blade of Ptra to banish Nagash, and Khemri falls silent. Settra is ressurrected by the last 4 Magic Winds, and the EndTimes lore ends here.

[@inyrui]

@@BailensdeLykenos as someone who has never played Warhammer, half of those words meant nothing to me hahaha

[@BailensdeLykenos]

@@inyrui Basically, the End Times are like the armageddon of Warhammer Fantasy, which has its universe sorta separated from the rest of Warhammer: 40k and other GamesWorkshop material.

[@twoflyingcrabs3578]

@@BailensdeLykenos You're saying it all like most people know what you're talking about.

[@greggillespie8259]

GW: Don’t you dare even think about copying our ideas or else we’ll sue you! Dune: Should I tell him?

[@kredonystus7768]

Michael Moorcock: Nah it's all good. Let them have their fun, people will remember us as the originators... ...Won't they?

[@deusexaethera]

Dune...you mean the sci-fi series that ripped off the real history of the Middle East? I mean, come on: An emperor pitting warlords against each other for control of a desert planet whose name sounds suspiciously like Iraq, which is socially and industrially under-developed but rich in a rare and valuable natural resource vital to humanity's transportation and trade infrastructure? Nope, that doesn't sound anything like the Middle East under control of the British Mandate, not at all...

[@basstedson]

You can copy shit all you like, you just can't photocopy.

[@theshatteredsaga3965]

Robert Heinlein: Don't bother, they don't listen.

[@harrylane4]

@jabroni destroyer except done in the worst, most inane way possible

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

I honestly thought we would scrape the bottom of the barrel with scandals in nerd shit. But then I realized we actually haven't even gotten to Smash Bros yet.

[@subhanmahmood6580]

Oh my god I would love to see him cover Smash Bros. I can only imagine the metaphors he'll make

[@ManyKudos]

I'm powering up to use my Ult on Smash Bros...

[@300IQPrower]

Oh no

[@cl0k3]

I do hope that the analysis recognizes leffen, jisu, and esam as the POS they are.

[@MidwestArtMan]

@@subhanmahmood6580 Eventually, some players got tired of smashing bros and decided to try smashing something more illegal.

[@diamondsfarms461]

To be entirely fair, the Skaven blowing up the moon is entirely in character and fucking hilarious

[@bonogiamboni4830]

And also taking out a massive part of their own army. Entirely in character and fucking hilarious. I don't know much about fantasy/sigmar but i do know that those guys are fucking wild.

[@boyanpenev9822]

Them actually pulling it off was somewhat unusual. Them becoming from a joke faction the bludgeon used to delete several minor factions was significantly less appreciated.

[@josephschultz3301]

@@bonogiamboni4830 Just think "giant rats powered by greed, treachery, and insanity" and you're basically on the money. They my favorite faction xD .

[@jonmantooth5804]

all that cheese tho

[@suppmydiff3257]

@@bonogiamboni4830 Skaven are basically an Ork/Tyrannid hybrid in fantasy lore (not a perfect comparison but it's kinda the bootleg-ness and comedy of the Orks with the overwhelming numbers and inherently problematic-ness of the Tyrranids

[@dancingowlbear]

For Part 2, I suggest including the multiple worldwide campaigns that Games Workshop invited players to take part in, with the promise that the results would directly impact the story and setting of the game, only to then interfere when those results went in a direction they didn't like.

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

Gameworkship were going to nuke the old world out of existence with that pointy head looser Archeon WHETHER YOU LIKED IT OR NOT!!

[@zackarysullivan9019]

That reminds me of a DM that doesn’t like that the players aren’t going in the direction he/she wanted them to because it doesn’t fit the story he/she came up with

[@Spacefrisian]

Eye of Terror campaign being a prime example.

[@arran4285]

What?

[@Nirual86]

Before the actual End Times there was Storm of Chaos, which was basically the same deal except players could send in battle reports to influence the story outcome. Turns out nobody wanted Chaos to win and destroy everything, instead the Ork Warboss Grimgor Ironhide wrecked their shit and GW just gave up on the idea and then did the Endtimes anyway.

[@GrieveIV]

I like how some of these aren’t scandals and are just moments to point out how shit Games Workshop is

[@ManyKudos]

I'll take what chances I can get

[@GrieveIV]

@@ManyKudos I greatly appreciate it lol

[@haruhisuzumiya6650]

Except the Austrian painter

[@GrieveIV]

@@MekBoooooi ayo lol

[@chopmopjeter18]

And boy, does he only scratch the surface! Remember to buy from recasters, people who have better quality control, better customer support, and more fair prices than a fucking billion dollar corporation. And they don't discontinue models at the drop of a hat with barely any notice.

[@legateelizabeth]

The *actual* reason behind fanfic and fanart still being allowed is somehow even worse: They would have made it not allowed if several court cases hadn’t been won on the very subject. In the 90’s or 00’s Anne Rice tried to get fanfic and fanart of her work taken down, and a big court battle was fought over it that came down definitively on the side of fan works. Archive of Our Own, one of the bigger fanfic sites on the net, is descended from the Organisation of Transformative Works, a non-profit which has fought and is still prepared to fight legal battles if it ever came down to it. Games Workshop only stopped at banning fanfic outright because legal precedent would thoroughly destroy them. Really someone should talk to that organisation about this whole debacle again, since even the rules seem really restrictive in a way Anne Rice would’ve approved of.

[@giodandosu]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh that why......

[@maijethemage2501]

Kinda wish they did flat out ban it and full-on destroy themselves. A different, hopefully better hobby company would likely take their place as basically holding a monopoly on hobbying

[@nunyabidness674]

@@maijethemage2501 hmmmm.... TSR memories lol

[@nunyabidness674]

FYI, it wasn't only Anne Rice. David Webber (Honorverse), Anne McCaffrey (Pern AND Kilashandra/crystal singer), and from personal knowledge one Richard Garfield (Magic, the Gathering) all went toe to toe with Wizards of the Coast (formerly TSR) over various fanfic 2nd ed AD+D scenarios. If memory serves, starting in 1992 there was an option to write up a scenario, playtest it with your buddies, then submit it to WotC for review and potential publishing. If your work was selected, you would gain royalties off the sales. At least two scenarios that were eventually slated for release contained copyrighted materials from outside sources. Prof. G had seen one specifically using creatures from Magic as the NPC "baddie" spawns, and we also were reading some of the other entries under consideration in the WotC newsletter. There were scenarios from the Pern series (thinly veiled and near plagerisim) as well as the crystal singer series. Then a few months later another rose up using AD+D rules and character sheets to run Honorverse. Also, if memory serves, these actions were what led up to the D20 system being released opensource. Shadowrun no longer required 15lbs of D6, with the D20 adaption, although finding the D20 adaption was pretty dang rare...

[@sup1602]

@@nunyabidness674 God shadowrun would be such better to play with the D20 system. But a part of me wants to throw 14 dice but only get 2 hits to spoof a turret.

[@Thebdippy]

Games workshop is like the farmer who has the golden goose but he keeps complaining that it keeps laying these dumb yellow metal eggs. I'm not part of the fandom but from the outside it really seems astonishing the degree to which this company seeks to self-sabotage.

[@Ironbattlemace]

It is astonishing. Just again they showed their teeth.

[@nonegone7170]

'Who cares, it's not like these stupid nerds will buy any less plastic for exorbitant prices' -Probably GW.

[@liverpools]

"the allies were woke kings who bullied hitler in to painting his final piece with chunks of his brain matter" Killed me

[@geeshta]

The moment I cursed my vivid imagination

[@CoolCraftCool]

I mean Joseph Stalin was known to be at least a little left wing just saying would he count as woke by todays standards?

[@psevdhome]

​@@CoolCraftCool Joseph Stalin - a massive authoritarian and Premier of the Communist Party of the Fucking Soviet Union is "a little left wing". Are you high or something? That's like saying the Sun is a little bit big. Being left wing is not about your pet political ambitions. The left axis of the political compass denotes how much government control of the economy there is, that's it. The Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin had government control of the economy and that by definition makes them leftist. Wokism is the application of Marxist class theory into ethnicity, which did not exist as a concept in Stalin's time, so Stalin could not have been woke.

[@rdubayoo]

Oh, also, good to know I wasn't the only one who immediately had Stalin come to mind when I saw this.

[@psevdhome]

@@rdubayoo I don't necessarily disagree with you. In my mind this woke agenda is a racial and racist application of class warfare, so I don't think that the race component can be read back into mid 20th century politics. However if you want to see wokism as class politics that is later applied to race, then I guess you can say that Stalin was woke. I would say this is about the perception of the word woke and what it refers to. So we agree, woke bad, racism bad, class warfare bad, Stalin and communism bad.

[@rubysauce]

a rule book that would kill a rodent vs one that would leave them relatively unharmed. This is such an apt description it hurts

[@bonogiamboni4830]

Honestly that big boy book could kill an actual skaven.

[@AlienTreeGuy]

I feel for the Fantasy one. My brother started playing Bretonnia probably like 20 years ago at this point. I’ve personally seen every stage of grief there is.

[@Mephiston]

Ironic that AOS was so unpopular that they brought back the old world.

[@John_on_the_mountain]

@@Mephistoni really wish they just introduced a new ruleset and models to Fantasy rather than just blowing it all up lol

[@Jebu911]

I think the largest brain move they did was kill off fantasy and then year later help release total war warhammer that also works as a big add campaing for fantasy while they have non to sell. I mean at least i was making bank selling my large armys to new and old collectors.

[@John_on_the_mountain]

@@Jebu911 thats exactly what got me into Warhammer fantasy and after playing the game i went into a GW store to check out the fantasy line and wouldnt you know it it didnt exist anymore lol

[@Jebu911]

@@John_on_the_mountain Yeah the gw leaders dont really know what they are doing and somehow still havent gone out of business.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Ah yes, White Morpheus with a mullet-tail, my favorite Matrix character.

[@montgomerynovak2194]

You mean your favorite character isn't the French man that can make a desert so good you bust on the spot?

[@blu_nades]

With a receding hairline so bad it makes him look like he has a reverse neck beard

[@ManyKudos]

He's an expanded universe character

[@comeslammer9455]

@@ManyKudos ur mom

[@BlitzkriegBryce]

You can done take that there blue syringe and go back to all that computer stuff or take this here red filled one and realize we ain’t in Kansas anymore.

[@serialvapist5807]

I remember walking into a game shop, seeing that shit, going that's neat "hey how much am I looking at for an entry level army" "$400 dollars?" "For a starter army that needs expansion to be competitive?"

[@inyrui]

Jeeeesus, i had no idea it was that much. Who has $400 to waste on that kind of shit lol

[@Cyrus44441]

@@inyrui the same people who spend alot of money on...ANYTHING. lego, PCs, gaming, cars. Hobbies are stupidly expensive

[@mrcaterpillow9926]

Whoever said 400 bucks was wrong. You can start small with Kill Team, for 50 bucks you get a box of Space Marines, you find the rules online for free and you are good to play some Warhammer. Also, the Command Starter Box for 40k gives you terrain, 2 500 point armies, and the rules for the game and the models. Start small, split the cost with a friend and enjoy the hobby. Fuck competitive games lol.

[@danielsilhavy930]

400 USD is EXTREMELY cheap here, that must have been adjusted to a smaller scale point system and optimized purchases. its easily double that. However, its a hobby, once you realise that those models dont have an exipration date and are easily sold at nearly the full price down the line, its not that bad. Besides ANY hobby is very expensive. Unless Netflix is your only form of entertainment you will spend a lot of money...

[@inyrui]

@@Cyrus44441 yeeeeah true. My main hobby is Lego and they can get pretty expensive haha. I probably have more than $400 worth. Honestly it's probably closer to $1000 ._.

[@DJRockford83]

When the Austrian painter thing came up I honestly thought "why is Trovarian controversial, he's a great painter" needless to say I soon had the oooooooh reaction

[@Fork1]

I think GW did the End Times and remade the whole setting for the simple fact that they couldn't trademark most of their armys. Most of it fell into public domain!

[@tyranitararmaldo]

Aka, a lot of companies have made a lot of money off of GW's incompetence.

[@Bluecho4]

The fact that most of those armies were effectively just fantasy staples to begin with didn't help their case. So long as you didn't include ideas too overtly of GW's creation, you could stick any amount of elves, dwarves, orcs, undead, etc. into your derivative fantasy wargame as you liked. Up to and including just creating 1-to-1 analogues for Warhammer armies in your game, down to the units.

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

The actual truth is that Warhammer Fantasy was just not making any money compared to the other games. The players demanded change. So they got it.

[@jtrain9926]

@@MarkusMaximus2000 it was partially that, but also lack of rules and model support wasnt helping the range. So chicken and egg scenario. Meanwhile every unit/faction that was dropped was replaced with ones they could easily trademark. Now AoS is totally failing and will be replaced with The Old World.

[@chaosundividedreborn]

@@jtrain9926 Aos isn’t failing though? It’s still going strong. And the Old World isn’t a replacement, it’s a side speciality game, like Horus Heresy

[@J.C136]

The “no fan animation” thing is fairly likely to fall apart under any fair use claim but the problem with fair use is that the company can take you to court to prove that, & they have all the money in the world to drag you thru every single court delay tactic their scummy lawyers can think up to bleed your wallet dry & try to make you give up & if that fails they’ll try to hit you with a settlement nc every single major company has a unique form of legal solidarity where they’d prefer to give out huge settlement checks rather than losing and setting precedent that’ll fuck them all over in the long term

[@perspicacioussimpleton7288]

I know you're trying to make a point, but learn how to use punctuation. It helps the message come across more clearly. Best wishes.

[@TheMightyBattleSquid]

​@@perspicacioussimpleton7288 I know you're trying to make a point but learn how to think critically, their comment reads just fine.

[@perspicacioussimpleton7288]

@@TheMightyBattleSquid The sass was not necessary. Good grammar helps fortify your argument against those who use your lack of proper grammar against you. You give any opposition less tools to break or belittle your argument. Pointing it out was intended as a gesture of kindness, not cynical criticism. The most common fallacy is ad hominem, which includes devolving an individual to something less than who they are, i.e their education based on their grammar. So, kindly allow the OP to speak for themselves before you insult another. That's not critical thinking, that's pretentious cynicism that only serves to inflate your own ego by shutting down others. Why do you feel the need to do that? Genuinely?

[@SioxerNikita]

Fair Use does require quite a few things. Factor 1: The Purpose and Character of the Use Factor 2: The Nature of the Copyrighted Work Factor 3: The Amount or Substantiality of the Portion Used Factor 4: The Effect of the Use on the Potential Market for or Value of the Work These are the four factors and they get balanced mostly in every individual case. Fan Art will get a bit favorable in the first Factor, as long as it is not monetized, but not guarenteed. Under that Factor a work that is Transformative will likely also be a bit favorable for non-monetized fan art, especially if it portrays situations not present in the stories. Factor 2 might also be a bit favorable. Factor 3 is likely also a bit favorable since you use little of the IP. Factor 4 is heavily individual. But mostly, if you are monetizing it, most of your favorable arguments fall apart. So a clause like that is likely more to deal with monetized examples, like Astartes, or animations with ads enabled, etc. Earning money of an unlicensed IP is a big nono.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Kinda but not really. GW has not backed down as they are stuck with their decision with WH+ but there has been an influx of fan animations but the difference is none of the animations have financial support from patreon and are made from the animators own pockets.

[@homelessperson5455]

Some of those copyright rules they set out literally break genuine copyright law. You are absolutely in the right to make a home project model of any kind of 40k ip, just as long as u don't try to pass it as an official product or sell it off.

[@SioxerNikita]

Or publish it online, or publish it anywhere, have a Patreon to support you making models like that, etc. I could make a 1-to-1 copy of Counter-Strike if I wanted, but technically not even allowed to show it off. Also copyright fair use is incredibly vague, so you have little to no idea whether it is breaching until you go to court. Sharing pictures of Homemade Projects in the IP can actually be a breach of copyright, while most companies don't do anything about it. On the other hand, most companies have strict rules like this, so they can try and enforce them in certain situations, instead of making more lax ones that could contain loopholes.

[@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel]

​@@SioxerNikitaI don't think you understand fair use my gamer.

[@SioxerNikita]

@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel I don't think you do. Just because it is a fan creation based on an IP does not make it fair use.

[@nightmagnus7595]

The major problem with the modern GW company is being publicly traded. When a disconnected boardroom decides your company direction, the cat is so far out of the bag, it's sending kittens back into the bag so they'll have a growth moment.

[@Bluecho4]

Also, the company becomes beholden to shareholders, and the need to constantly generate more and larger returns for them, every single year. Causing GW to sacrifice anything and everything on the altar of unlimited growth, something more made up and impossible than the company's fantasy/SF settings. The customers, fans, and employees suffer for this unquenchable avarice.

[@screamingcactus1753]

@@Bluecho4 The investors are the customers, and the companies themselves are the products. The consumers barely even factor in anymore.

[@LeCharles07]

@@screamingcactus1753 Don't you love late-stage capitalism?

[@smokedbeefandcheese4144]

@@screamingcactus1753 they still factor in. There’s still Hass to be a whale to buy a like $500 plastic army man. The sad thing is its just a cultural shift that can’t be undone. Their hobby now sees this as normal. the diy nature replaced with just buying stuff

[@bwestacado9643]

​@@LeCharles07 Better than "any stage communism"

[@RetroMaticGamer]

...AKA "How To Drive Away Your Fans And Make Less Money 101" This is why I don't feel one bit guilty when my 3d-printer GO BRRRRR MAKE ORKS.....

[@silentjackm.d4490]

TTS was probably the biggest blow because it was TTS that opened a lot of people myself included into the world of 40k While being a lot more comedic it actually respected and was pretty accurate to The lure outside of a few things but even those things where in character and entirely believable based on what we know. It brought the attention of thousands of eyes into 40k and no doubt boosted their numbers incredibly, it was literally free advertisement that probably would have brought them more money in the long run than putting it behind a paywall

[@rakelodakel]

I never saw the appeal, and found it painfully unfunny. But that's besides the point. GW might have wanted to keep control over how their IP is depicted. Now, keep in mind too that they never touched TTS.

[@SCHMALLZZZ]

I'm sitting here flipping through my old 3e rule book that I bought back in 1999, but I never once watched TTS.

[@rakelodakel]

@SCHMALLZZZ a lot of people CLEARLY only know 40k through memes, TTS and lore dumps. And that's fine I guess, but I always feel like "just wait till you actually read a novel, you have no IDEA how awesome Warhammer is if TTS is your idea of the hight of Warhammer content".

[@lukeduran12]

@@rakelodakel The problem with taking Warhammer seriously is its just so painfully dumb if you take it at face value. Its like the edgy kid at school who constantly goes on talking about their knife collection, while also at the same time having some of the most contradicting plot points, characters and power scaling. Don't even get me started on everything needing to be so "Grimdark", as if everything is this over the top edgy nonsense than none of it is, theres no real point of comparison. Don't get me wrong, I love warhammer, I think they have a lot of cool IDEAS, but they fail at execution in the long term a lot, one half because of forcing this edgy attitude on every aspect, the other hand because of corporate greed. I think probably the biggest thing I actually appreciated about TTS was they were trying to move the story forward, past the comedy, past the poking fun at the series, TTS actually was trying to progress the story line in a direction that may include finality. The primarchs were returning, Chaos was rallying it's champions, the Eldar gathered Magnus to assist in the birth of Ynnead with Eldrad, big steps were being taken to give the Emperor a new life to rule again, and so forth. My dreaded relationship with Warhammer, past their bad corporate practices, past derpy and edgy writing, past their blatant favoritism, was that the series stagnancy. How it was always 5 minutes till minute, how no side can gain any true ground, and nothing will truly ever change or end, because if it does it means GW loses money. Now, they have always teased progress, and in some cases actually made some. I personally think the returning of the primarchs is a good thing, Cadia being destroyed was a good thing, but it still doesn't help that these are side steps, never actual steps towards finality. Ynnead can never truly be born, chaos can never truly take Terra, nor can the Eye of Terror ever actually be closed. Now with that said, I genuinely hope this doesn't come off as rude, I simply wanted to add why I like TTS, and genuinely can't find major interest in their long running books or novels. If you dispute any of my points as well I'd be more than happy to hear out your reasoning as well!

[@rakelodakel]

@lukeduran12 that's a long way to say you don't read the novels. Warhammer 40k isn't a story, it has never claimed to be, and I really hope it never becomes one. It's a setting. I know you don't read the novels because if you did, you would know this, and you wouldn't have this issue with a lack of finality, direction and "story". EVERY novel I have read from 40k is a story with a beginning, a middle and an end. It has finality, contained themes and so on. I don't know what you mean by "taking warhammer seriously". I take it seriously as the tongue-in-cheek, over-the-top and fun satire that it is. I don't need a youtuber making funny voices for the Imperium to understand that they're a corrupt, dysfunctional, evil empire of fascists, oligarchs and fanatics. That's literally the whole point of 40k, that it's funny. The setting is satirical. It doesn't become more funny with someone making that point even MORE on-the-nose. It is, in my opinion, condescending, and boring. TTS doesn't further 40k's story. It furthers its own soapopera, and has taken 40k's setting and MADE a story up around it. Again 40k isn't a story, never was. Its a setting in which literally several hundred stories are set. And the novels are good, in general. Quality varies. But in relation to other fiction sharing it's themes, it's either just as good or just as bad. And if your idea of good storytelling is TTS, then again, just wait till you pick up a 40k novel and meet the character's in there. Novel, not "lore video", not "lore breakdown", not wiki-pages, not parody videos, not fan animations, not reddit threads.... a warhammer 40k novel, written by professional writers like Dan Abnett or Aaron Dembski-Bowden.

[@Nathan_Coley]

I won't lie every time I hear "many scandals" from you my ears hear "Mini Scandals".

[@ManyKudos]

Every time someone asks me IRL what my channel name is I have to spell out "M A N Y"

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@ManyKudos I hear "Many Kudos" just fine, it's just "Many Scandals" I hear as "Mini", no idea why.

[@coyotelifestyle73]

In a way, this episode was "mini" scandals. Haha get it? Because Warhammer minis? Haha I'm a comedic genius Haha I wish I had friends Haha this isn't a shitpost I'm genuinely disgustingly and have extreme difficulty maintaining friendships

[@Joe-ev9ci]

@@ManyKudos the auto subtitles aren't helping you hahaha

[@hamishfox]

Fush and chups

[@sexylazercatwizard]

When asked "who are the good guys?" We don't say "yes", we say "no one."

[@CircusFoxxo]

We say "Death Korps of Krieg"

[@bthsr7113]

"Also, the Skaven blow up the moon." That sounds like something they would do. Just not something they could do.

[@Jebu911]

They did ram the moon on the planet killing lizardmen continent and hilariously all of skaven too.

[@nicholasfarrell5981]

Probably should've tossed a nod to the fact that WH40K/whatever the other version's called now is seemingly one of the only games whose tournament rules do not require players to understand how a bar of soap works (considering how hard you rode that pony in previous scandal videos). Star Wars scandals next, maybe? The fan-art theft alone could be an entire video for you.

[@ManyKudos]

Star Wars may well just be on the horizon :O

[@jamzee_]

“Rode that pony” Lol

[@exilestudios9546]

oh that fan art thing is way weirder than you would think. its not even Disney or Lucasfilm's fault for once its entirely del ray publishing and marvel comics both of whom are allowed access to Lucasfilm's library of concept art and 3d models for use as reference and tracing material but due to self imposed deadlines by both subsidiaries they don't do that because having an artist just go to google is slightly faster. so far in the most recent crop of comics and books this issue hasn't seemed to crop up but time will tell if deadlines cause artists to get desperate again.

[@DrkOblitr8r]

There was an Australian 40k player who faked an Aboriginal Community, enough people to a major tournament, said fake major with results saying they won (naturally), posted the results of said fake tournament to the ITC, the international ranking system and when questioned if this tournament even happened threatened to sue everyone from the ITC and back.

[@twinzzlers]

Oh come on, don't leave us hanging. How poorly did it go?

[@j4y167]

sounds like typical abbo behaviour, break the rules then threaten when you're caught

[@DrkOblitr8r]

@@j4y167 dude is some form of Spanish though

[@DrkOblitr8r]

@@twinzzlers I dropped out of the 40k scene a few months earlier so missed the whole thing. Outside of a permanent ITC ban I'm not sure what happened

[@TheTGOAC]

​@@j4y167 but the person wasn't aboriginal, goofy mf

[@Mediados]

My main problem with GW is that they have SUCH A HEAVY SPACE MARINE FETISH I mean seriously, they really had to delete the Empire and force Space Marines into Fantasy didn't they

[@gavinziozios1431]

And if you look at 40k, the space marines have to win everything significant, especially ultramarines. Oh, a chaos primarch came back and destroyed 3/4 of our navy? That's okay, we'll just release another primarch who decimates him by hitting him *WITH A SHIELD*. And the navy? Yeah, that'll be replaced in, like, a week

[@mumblez7712]

That's as much the communitys fault as GW's. Space Marines alone outsell ALL of Age of Sigmar.

[@Mediados]

@@mumblez7712 I'm just happy they are giving us xenos some attention now. I might even consider getting into Tyranids.

[@queencyrys6309]

@@mumblez7712 i have my doubts there,considering just how huge of a cash cow AOS is

[@informatikabos5481]

If I ever gonna buy 40K I will make sure its not Space Marines.

[@Draigo_MD]

Also look at Valve's policy for animation. It's amazing, they're a company that got popular on mods and animation and they know it. They even provide people with their own animation tool (SFM). And now people have no way of discovering this amazing hobby the way many of us did: animations (for me specifically it was Syama Pedersen's Astartes). This is what happens when the marketing department takes over the company instead of a player or dev (looking at you Blizzard).

[@m136dalie]

Valve also came to my mind watching this. They are one of the few, if not only, major game developers that understand the key to a game's longevity is the community. It's the reason why half life, left 4 dead and portal are all still popular and present in online culture.

[@KingRumar]

Dude I hopped on L4D1 and 2 on Xbox live and had no issues getting full groups just a few months ago. It's amazing how they keep the servers even for the first game alive. You don't see it ever

[@Blake_murray16]

The animation “how to climb a tree” is a brilliant example of how people have used Valve’s characters to create great animations

[@SioxerNikita]

Well... Just because one company is nice doesn't mean other companies need to be as well. Especially with monetized stuff. There has been significant money and effort to create something like the Warhammer Universes, with much investment and a decent significant chance for failure. Astartes literally monetized animation of 40k, which is a big big no no to do... Earning money of another IP without license is very much not okay, otherwise you would see big companies starting to do that as well, and that is only going to hurt the little guy. Anything becoming even slightly popular would get copied, streamlined and commercialized. These protections aren't just one way... Although it is hard to fight in the direction of a big corporation.

[@fusrosandvich3738]

@@SioxerNikita The more you utilize your community, the more money you make. Sega's slowly learned this over time leading up to Sonic Mania, Capcom's been putting fangames on their _official website_ for years now, and Valve gets to use the Steam Workshop and programs like TMODLOADER for Terraria to push the Steam Deck with heavy game modding capabilities which nothing else really compares with. Fighting your community is how you kill your company. It was only like last month I watched a niche tower defense game developer decide to say "I'm going to ignore my staff, my community, and my friends and develop the game the way I want!" and then proceeded to fucking divebomb the player count from multiple thousand into 100 at peak hours.

[@stevecooper6578]

6:19 That line is so rich when Games workshop has "Borrowed" things from other licensed IPs like Necrons originally being Terminators in all but name alone and Adeptus Arbites being R̶o̶b̶o̶ ̶C̶o̶p̶ Judge Dredd clones

[@NetizenNo]

I thought Arbites were inspired by judge Dredd?

[@stevecooper6578]

@@NetizenNo Oops yeah It was that

[@lp.shakur]

they absolutely stole the whole dune universe

[@missivory_missraine]

@@lp.shakur Dune, Traveler, Aliens, Tolkien, Terminator, and almost every major IP in the 80s and 90s.

[@flameknightdragon]

lets not forget power armor started as an idea from star ship troopers.

[@topherb8255]

"You know you're a part of some sick $h!t when even Games Workshop doesn't want your money." I CACKLED.

[@JanitorScruffy]

I love that Games Workshop keeps trying to play the satire card when the grim darkness of their IP drowned out the cheeky satire of the 80's a loooonng time ago. With rare exception, officially licensed books and other media are full tilt unironic, at best they cast some moral ambiguity on protagonists in their stories but many times, they are played straight. Unless you are an Ork or The Pokemon master Necron lord, 40k dropped it's pretense of satire a long time ago in pursuit of stacks of cash.

[@stefvanroey8191]

This, it really grinds my gears that in this universe where "there are no good guys", chaos is pretty much unanimously the bad guy in nearly every conceivable way. While the imperium is actually written as bad but pretty relatable. It completely undermines the "all is satire" take

[@boarfaceswinejaw4516]

GW tries to straddle the line between Derp, grimderp, grimdark, cringedark and just cringe. It comes as no surprise that there are a lot of people who just straight up dont give a shit about 40k and instead prefer 30k, when things were more optimistic and the setting was straight up nobledark.

[@JanitorScruffy]

@@boarfaceswinejaw4516 Yeah the cheesy silly satire would not fly now for anyone who has gotten into the game or setting post 90's which is most people who are into it, and even just having maybe a ray of sunshine in the universe wouldn't fly either, It's all extremely dark to the point of being bad parody not good parody. Or it's Christmas Advent calendar chibis because money.

[@DeadBaron]

This right here. The imperium are 100% the good guys... In the context of the opposing races and Chaos. The Tau sterilize their non-Tau "allies" ffs. Essentially enslave and brainwash any humans that join. Orks, Chaos, Tyrannid, you name it, the rest want to outright murder or enslave all that oppose them.

[@SioxerNikita]

@@stefvanroey8191 Being relatable can be a very important part of satire... What?

[@Lynch2507]

One of the funnier things about AoS is the Stormcast Eternals, also known as "What If Space Marines could respawn?". Like, GW was so focused in 40k they just put space marines into the fantasy stuff.

[@toferkrz946]

Or they're the good mirror opposite to the evil Chaos Warriors. But I guess your comparison makes for better internet indignation...

[@stefvanroey8191]

@@toferkrz946 with the lightning teleports and the sheer amount if different units i would say the space marine comparison is a better one

[@conormccue2871]

@@toferkrz946 No. They're Space Marines in fantasy. I don't even play these games and the art of the Stormcasts alone stabs you in the face with all of its would be smurf glory.

[@toferkrz946]

@@conormccue2871 Thank you for your insightful comment. I always find that people that don't play the game, read the books or know anything about AoS have the most well-informed hot takes...

[@Lynch2507]

@@toferkrz946 well shit, you're just so welcoming and open to talking about AoS, why wouldn't people want to get into the hobby. Lighten up lmao

[@moreblack]

I respect the fact that LOL just created their own fanfiction anime and put it on netflix themselves

[@tylerstears4445]

Astartes was so amazing I wasn't even a Warhammer fan at the time.

[@carlamariecadizon9101]

Games Workshop's rules are more stupid than the Orks honestly. Their rules are to make sure that their IP are protected by taking over fanworks, and making sure that new models are getting more expensive and more awry. Astartes are really awesome for a new fan like me, and it will be sorely missed...

[@noahr8884]

Never heared of warhammer before I saw those video's. That video got me interested in the world. Listened to a podcasts that told me about the lore after that. But if a company is that toxic, fuck m

[@MrDoYouKnowMe2211]

TTS is what got me interested in 40K to begin with. Kinda pissed they forced Alfa to quit making it.

[@Phoney72]

@@MrDoYouKnowMe2211 they didn't force Alfa to quit it did they?

[@sirapple589]

I may be wrong but I’m pretty sure that because GW were taking down fan made content he stopped making TTS. Which sucks cause TTS was one of the best fan made creations of any series I’ve ever heard of.

[@noahr8884]

@@sirapple589 when I checked it out I had just started playing around with 3d shit for a year and made my first videoclip. Seeing someone make something of that quality was mindboggling. Amazing talent and hours upon hours upon hours of work

[@planescaped]

"Which undid a lot of the goodwill Games Workshop had earned over the years." Games Workshop earned goodwill? News to me... They've always been the EA of figurines as far as I know.

[@tom18807]

Such a short sighted business model, I showed my kids Astarties on KZbin and straight away they were interested in playing 40k having never played before.

[@ExeErdna]

The whole point of advertisement is visibility why in the hell would you scoop everything up into another pay wall, then ree about "meh bottom line". When their very bottom line is easily undercut due to piracy and simply adaptation to new tech. With 3d printing becoming more household honestly and model paints outside of theirs are looking better. GW is legit shot themselves in the foot twice.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

Not gonna lie, showing any reasonable person "Astartes" would make them at least interested in 40K. You could also recommend TTS to those who like comedy of the things they enjoy, so that they sort of learn the most basic stuff while also pissing their pants laughing.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

*G-O-G-E VANDIRE*

[@worndown8280]

@@ExeErdna One of there problems is they are control freaks to the point of it being pathological. You either want people to play your game or not. You want it main stream or niche. But they seem more concerned over who plays it then how many. You cant run a business like that. GW exists because the fans support them in spite of their stupidity. But that seems to be nearing its limits. More people seem to be in the lore than the actual game anymore. But maybe its always been like that.

[@ExeErdna]

@@worndown8280 The fans made this shitstorm of an IP more accessable and GW went and gatekept the world then claimed the world are gatekeepers. They're clearly being mismanaged yet I kinda realized a lot of legacy companies are.

[@BornToPeeForcedToDrinkIt]

Astartes was the animation that got me into 40K, and it was the subsequent bullshit by GW that got me immediately out lol. Nothing like discovering a new, fascinating franchise that's gone on for years and have the second thing you ever learn about it be how fucked the company who owns it is.

[@ngominh259]

They made the dude work for them. Ngl, I thought the new Space Marines trailer would be as brutal and hard-hitting as Astartes. At this rate I fear he's gonna get burned out by the bureaucracy to the point of quitting making animations altogether.

[@raphwalker9123]

you was lucky Astartes was your first encounter with 40k ,now what if it was some badly made animation with 2 space marines making out then swareing at each other ,made by some unfunny crappy animator ,this is 1 of the reasons GW is protecting its IP

[@zackarysullivan9019]

@@raphwalker9123 who fucking cares. Restricting fan works hurts everyone.

[@Engifarting456]

then you dont wanna know smth about disney, wizard of the coast, blizzard, the entire hollywood industry, etc.

[@dannygornall827]

You weren't into 40k then, you were into an animation.

[@RoloTonyBrownTown69420]

It’s really weird getting into Warhammer late because I like Age of Sigmar but after watching this video, I can see it’s because I got into it after all the updates.

[@Hawko1313]

Yep, it’s gone its own way a bit. Because stormcast eternals just being space marines in the beginning hurt my brettonian soul. Now they look far more renaissance influenced sculptures come to life

[@irobot661]

Although the stupidity of the WH+ scandal is definitely more in recent history, age of sigmar edition 1 (actually I can't remember if the original was concerned 1st edition or not before they added points) was such an immensely and obviously stupid idea I have no idea how they thought it would work. It's true that GW was on the push to simplify all their games but to first make the unpopular decision to stop supporting warhammer fantasy and then release this new game that had rules but no way to play. It was comically open ended. Imagine a board game where it gives you the most barebones of rules possible and then it says figure out how to make the game work yourself.

[@zirrian]

Ah yes, 6 pages of rules where you got benefits from cover only if you stood atop of said cover, where you could shoot out of melee, where there were no point values because "it's a narrative gaaaaaaaame" and the measuring malarkey where melee troops technically couldn't even attack dragons.

[@odeegrotsniffer4166]

Warhammer fantasy needed to die. Age of Sigmar is awesome now.

[@irobot661]

@@odeegrotsniffer4166 hey I'm not saying that old hammer was perfect, but 1, I think you are just troll-bating, and 2, I think 3rd edition sigmar is fine game.

[@odeegrotsniffer4166]

Fantasy had been bad for a long time. It was impossible to get into with massive armies, bloated rules, and a generally antagonistic, entrenched fan base. It was terrible in the end. I still play 6th edition from time to time, or 8th with some homebrew rules, but it really needed to die. It also didn't sell because it was way, way to hard to get into. Have you seen how big the armies got?

[@zirrian]

@@odeegrotsniffer4166 well, despite the proposal in the video itself of "making it into a more accessible game" instead of nuking it... Also it's not awesome, it never was.

[@TommyCrosby]

When I was a teen me and a "friend" were really interested getting into W40K, but insane difficulty of understanding the rulebooks aside my "friend" basically just wanted me to go steal the plastic figures from a shop because that was the only way for few poor teens to get into this W40K world. While only a smart part of the equation, I can't believe that a tabletop game and very bad "friends" almost lead me to become a shoplifter just to have friends in more fortunate financial situations.

[@jjcoola998]

At least now kids can just 3D print everything

[@moonlightequilibrium]

@@jjcoola998 unfortunately it's a lot harder to shoplift a 3d printer

[@thehandoftheking3314]

There are shops that sell 2nd/erd/100th hand models for a fraction of nib

[@D3xterJettster]

@@moonlightequilibrium not with that attitude

[@Botar48]

Ehh shoplifting is like mildest crime one can commit.

[@Agamemnon316]

Someone may have already said this, but while watching this video, it cuts to commercial right as ManyKudos says "The Skaven blow up the moon." Whether a well-devised plan or wonderful happenstance, it leaves a smile on my face every time. Well done.

[@300IQPrower]

If we're doing less community scandal than company bullshit with this one, then I feel like you could have an entire second episode based on the cluster that is Games Workshops squandering of their license with video games. Several DOZEN games and yet they always, ALWAYS license it out to some middle shelf at best publisher. On top of that t's almost always some jank mid to low budget developer and often times when it's not just a strategy game it's something that plays like a knockoff of a not-even-recent higher profile game (thinking of you Deathwing and Necromunda!). That's the other thing, despite having tons of potential for all sorts of different genres considering the rich lore and worldbuilding, just like MTG they do this thing where they don't even try and just put out top down strategy games or recreate the exact same thing in virtual space. And shooters, obviously for Warhammer. The only non-strategy games (plenty of which are still very much jank and/or mediocre) I can think of off the top of my head that arent jank as hell or flat out garbage are Vermintide (like you said those games are AMAZING) and Space Marine...oh, maybe save the episode until after they almost certainly fck that up- oh, and as always the metaphors and similes in these videos give me life

[@ManyKudos]

I agree 100% - it's such a shame that for every Vermintide or Dawn of War there's some hashed-out cash-in mobile game, when the universe has so much more potential. I'll add this to my list for part 2, thanks mate!

[@rosalindgatto9630]

There’s actually a pair of videos about GW’s approach to video games by extra credits that’s talks about the possible motives behind giving their IP to so many studios and whether it was successful, they’re a few years old but still an interesting watch m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYC5o6CcjdSfh8k m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKW8ZH-qpMSfiJY

[@redinfernal_]

Seems quite appropriate for this, now seeing as the GW video game IP seems to be a pretty decent state. Yeah, there are still a stack of absolute garbage mobile games, but the main titles are going pretty solid. The Total Warhammer series is the best thing Creative Assembly has done in years. Mechanicum is just straight up amazing. Vermintide playerbase seems to be growing, or at least it's still very easy to find a game. Darktide is on the horizon for that 40k taste of the Vermintide cake. Bloodbowl is great. That Hired Gun game could have been better, but was still pretty fun. And Space Marine 2 is coming in the next year or so. Hopefully they can keep doing enough to make the shitty mobile games a distant memory. Here's hoping for a Total Warhammer 40k soon too. There were a few standout mobile games, Silver Tower and Freeblade were pretty fun, but both required cash to be spent on loot boxes if you wanted any of the good champions or weapons.

[@300IQPrower]

@@redinfernal_ i made sure to put the non strategy qualifier because yeah, Space Hulk Tactics, Mechanicum, and Blood Bowl are all great. It just really irks me it could be so much more if they weren’t so obviously trying to cut every corner when licensing it out. The main reason those games are so good is because to a certain extent they’re recreating how the actual tabletop plays in virtual space, which is cool but Vermintide and Space Marine 1 is proof there could be a lot more to it. Necromunda and Deathwing capture that same spirit of using the complex worldbuilding to indulge a completely different genre, but have far more flawed execution because they were clearly made a far too tight budget.

[@dinoblacklane1640]

The thing is (most of the time) If you are a big developer, you're better off making your own IP. You'd be creating your own value while also not having to pay licencing fees But if you're a small-ish dev, then getting the warhammer licence is great. becuase you are essentially getting free marketing, while also having access to all of warhammer lore without having to make your own. You save money and make more money than making your own IP

[@Whitewingdevil]

Oh god, the End Times? People don't understand what a blow that was, looking back transitioning to AOS can make sense, lower the barriers of entry to the game, get new people in, all good things. But how do they implement it? Simple, release a years worth of rules and models people will get excited to play and use, spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars in the process, then kill the game all those rules and models were made for. It was the bait and switch that pissed people off so much, I know one person what built two brand new fantasy armies during the End Time release window(thousands of dollars spent), and he has not touched them since then, since the game they were made for is no longer played (much).

[@bkane573]

See also: battlefleet gothic. Which did at least get two solid video games & one epic mod.

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

Remember when saying "Hitler was bad" didn't get people like Tim Pool to call you a "woke virtue signaler"? That sure was fun.

[@PaleSalad]

Would love to see you go through the release of cursed city and the fact it was catered to scalpers or the release of big boy space marines and papa Smurf or the fact they're terrified by 3d printing so much that it makes them make these awful decisions.

[@PaleSalad]

Also the Australian price being insanely higher than anywhere else.

[@recentrogue]

Because he scalps. It should be obvious by now. The pos acts high and mighty but then turns around to be one of the toxic ones

[@EldenringAppreciator]

I got to be honest I'm only really interested in Warhammer for the video games, mostly because I'd rather spend my money on food but I love the setting and try to keep a base level understanding of what's going on with the war games side of things, but I had no idea that shit got that crazy

[@Mantonization]

It wasn't really a scandal, but on the subject of happenings in Warhammer I think you'd enjoy the tale of Shooter and Wheels.

[@yesterdaysrose5446]

Oh, this reminds me of the thing that you didn't mention in the D&D video! Back when heaven was new, the D&D Nerds got to the Internet. (Because they were nerds, after all.) Then, the almighty TSR, Inc., got to the Internet. Opening their Web presence. In AOL. They promptly declared that while sharing D&D custom materials was fine, it had to be uploaded to a very specific FTP site managed by them. (If you don't know what FTP is, ask your grandparents.) They also told them that all such material must adhere to content guidelines. Which were basically all ripped off from the Comics Code. The gamers told TSR to feck off and that was that, because while they were a pretty litigious company, they didn't realise they had stepped on an international stage.

[@strigibae]

being a warhammer fan is like being Jerry in that one episode of Rick and Morty where he gets put in daycare. Being emasculated and humiliated is part of a package deal.

[@disposable_income_andy]

To be fair, it's like that in almost every miniature hobby. Manly arts and crafts is its own hell and depends mostly on if the company treats its community and buyers like shit or not. Sometimes its on the companys behalf like with GW, other times like in model trains, Bachmann has to price single rolling stock pieces at 20 or above even if they don't want to.

[@mrwri]

Crazy scandal: They once let people use models they had bought in that store to play a game the store was selling on tables the store had set aside for that purpose.

[@eyesturnedeverinward]

😮

[@rizzington1]

"You know you're a part of some sick shit when even Games Workshop doesn't want your money"

[@harrylane4]

They still cater to them in the direction of yhr lore and with the continued direction of the game They just go “oh no we totally don’t want you here, nope, definitely not”

[@jesserivera9704]

hey man, that was great! i was heavy in the paint from 1996-2003 but lost the thread after that, this was a very entertainingly written and concise catchup. well done, thanks!

[@RitzScythe]

"I'm gonna destroy stuff I already own as protest" is one of my favourite flavours of fucking moronic lol

[@fatherWolt]

Wow, I did not know the weed mod was banned in Australia. I am going to make fun of my Australian friend for that!

[@ManyKudos]

It's literally on the .gov site for entertainment ratings

[@BiodegradableYTP]

I've had a sore spot for GW ever since their policy change killed fan animations, especially compromising Alfabusa and his team. If The Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech device was one of my absolute favourite online shows for years and got me interested in 40k in the first place. Hit 'em good and hard, Kudos!

[@passchen-fail3704]

Don’t want to be seen as a fanboy if GW, but Alfabusa hadn’t released anything regularly in years. They were almost a dead channel.

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

This copy paste opinion is so frustrating. GW havent handed out any C&D's to content creators. Alfa was hoovering in £180k+ a year through TTS. That's no longer fan animation, that's a business which should be declared, taxed etc. Alfa knew that if they got called up for making such money off someone elses IP they wouldnt have a leg to stand on. Now they gobble up Patreon money for very little return of content. I'm honestly baffled how people thought the content was good personally.

[@Ffom177]

@@passchen-fail3704 with how long the episodes are, it makes sense why it takes a long time

[@ericm5315]

@@MarkusMaximus2000 By your logic Weird Al wouldn't be making music. Parody is covered under fair use and can be monetized.

[@ecyor0]

Oh man, the number of people I saw take the "neonazis not welcome" statement from GW as a personal attack or "woke virtue signalling" was utterly ridiculous. A lot of people really exposing their true colours during that fracas.

[@CircusFoxxo]

Reminds me of the time that The New Colossus was advertised with a video of Nazis getting punched and people cried about it like... hello?

[@StevilDead]

It goes a long way when you make the ad-read not only tolerable but absolutely hilarious. Many kudos indeed, my dude 🙌

[@bewarethebun6496]

Enjoyed the vid as always. Thanks for mentioning TTS and the new content the team has put out. Glad I could be a part of it while it lasted. 💕

[@l4zrh4wk]

I never owned fantasy but have so many fond memories of playing games of it at my local GW store on Saturdays as a older child/young teen. I’m in my mid-thirties now. It really broke my heart when they retconned WH fantasy.

[@southaussielad2496]

Same, I'm bringing back to my kids with the power of a 3d printer and the crazy amount of proxies that are available online

[@raphwalker9123]

how did you not own any fantasy but played games of it?

[@nalrashido]

@@raphwalker9123 yeah this sentence makes no sense.

[@garmfield4428]

The End Times still give me nightmares. The only thing that gives me solace is that Settra went out like a chad.

[@retardcorpsman]

He did go out like a chad, but the way he got in was definitely a sad take on GW’s part. Damn it, Nagash.

[@funybirbman3813]

SETTRA DOES NOT SERVE, SETTRA RULES

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

Also Vlad finally admitting he cares at least a little bit about the “cattle,” and having some sense of honor in answering Karl Franz call in his final stand. Because F*ck Nagash.

[@ruffles638]

So called free and open society proponents when someone wears a funny shirt:

[@rakelodakel]

What's the joke?

[@robbielewis4740]

I only vaguely knew about Warhammer(knew the basic story but not much more) but watching emperor text to speech I got into it. It's a shame they were so strict I loved the series.

[@toastyturtle1767]

Thanks ManyKudos, you gave my Wood Elves army more attention than GW has in a decade.

[@jessemagallanes9409]

i think companies are treating streaming services as their own Patreon

[@thergonomic]

The answer to the most important question is not: "Yes.", it's: "No." There are no good guys in 40K.

[@killergrooves2438]

New Many Kudos! Finally! I seriously look forward to these. Edit: I see what you wrote in the KZbin search bar during the clips. It’s the little details that make me love this channel like I do. You’re like the Bret Hart of comedic informational videos.

[@Crackparty803]

Thanks for the Age of Sigmar PTSD. RIP my 5000 point high elf army that never got to play a game inside a GW store.

[@bushbunyip9037]

word is that gw is bringing fantasy back as "the old world" so if you still have them you might be able to use them

[@buckv9494]

My 3000 points of empire feels your pain .

[@colinmack8655]

Try them in Mantics Kings of War.

[@Brandypop]

The price hikes are pretty much why I went from actually playing the game to buying sets and having them as wall decorations in my home office. I completely redid my Dark Angels and Vampire Lords to have them both fight each other over my computer monitors.

[@doctoradventure413]

Great video, the Kroot Conga-line story definitely has to be told in a second part.

[@passchen-fail3704]

He got it off of 4chan. It’s an old one

[@doctoradventure413]

@@passchen-fail3704 ?

[@Ermagerdddrohernnnn]

Man, I don’t really have any prior knowledge about any of the many scandals you cover. However you make them interesting to watch with tasty memes. Good job.

[@Mythodyn]

"the allies were woke kings who bullied hitler in to painting his final piece with chunks of his brain matter" Ah yes of course, because GW making a post indirectly calling out a edge lord troll is akin to soldiers fighting in a war. Truly a big brain take.

[@matthewthenarniafan8074]

The moment I saw mantkudos’ beard I knew he played Warhammer

[@thenightqueen0]

“Preferably with the use of a catapult.” Nah, we condemn such vile heresy in one of two ways. The Heavy flamer, or The Exterminatus. Nothing less

[@highbahamut6188]

i hope they use helicopters to deal with communists too

[@CircusFoxxo]

Telling the Death Korps that they called the Emperor a bitch then giving them a ten second head start

[@XYZdude00]

Kind of disappointed you couldn't find any of the actual scandals in Warhammer. Stuff like cheaters being caught in a livestream, or when a painting studio gets called out for selling a crappy paint job is a lot more interesting.

[@talldorf6445]

You forgot Greasus Goldtooth's rule about bribing a player out of game for stuff. (I don't know if the other ogre kingdom lords had a special and dumb rules but that one stood out.)

[@marcusjackson1887]

0:09 Really appreciate the little detail of the background skipping to match the cut.

[@adolphineatingchildren2641]

this man has talked shit about every hobby I have and I love it

[@ManyKudos]

It's all done with love, I assure you 😉

[@panqueque445]

0:40 Literally every Warhammer 40k player I've ever met in person is that one guy who is just way too much into history, but only military history, but only WWII, but only the German army, and he swears the regular military didn't commit any war crimes, and even if they did it wasn't..... yeah you know the type.

[@doctorbrown5957]

I've never met any players like that, but I don't go out of my way to get to know them either, because (like with pubbing with basically anybody over a tabletop) the less you know about who you're playing with, the better.

[@panqueque445]

@@doctorbrown5957 I'm not saying every player is a secret neo-Nazi, but in my experience, every one of "those guys" is really into Warhammer too.

[@Peannlui]

Cursed bonus if they also have books/detailed but too-far-down-the-rabbit-hole knowledge on the Ancient Roman Empire.

[@panqueque445]

@@Peannlui Even worse if they own a WWII German military costume that's way too good for a Halloween costume.

[@aazreaal]

@@panqueque445 cause it's based bro

[@ghazghkullthraka9714]

‘Next thing you know, weed mod for minecraft is banned in Australia’ Sounds about right

[@charlieszusterman]

"When Hitler painted his final piece with chunks of his brain matter" 🤣

[@tythus654]

Well, up until now I had no idea how well boycotting WH+ is going - thanks for letting me know that Warhammer+ is doing as badly as its content roster

[@sam74mumm]

Thanks for mentioning the never updated Bretonnia book. A KZbinr once described his lifestyle, living and working condition the last time they released a new book. In the meantime he got a big family, some degrees and several jobs. Europeans got a new currency and music cassetts disappeared...If it wouldn´t be so sad, you could actually call it funny.

[@hestan723]

The nazi guy does make a point when he says he shouldn't be banned because of ideology. As long as he keeps that for himself, eveything can go smoothly

[@rakelodakel]

He didn't keep it to himself...

[@HelloHelloe]

It’s mad stupid, self admitted commies are universally accepted everywhere and in positions of power despite their ideology statistically leading to more deaths and suffering over a larger sample size and period of time. They’re literally Nazis 2 but cos they are left wing (Status quo/Control mechanism) it’s pushed to the front and supported

[@derpherp1810]

@@HelloHelloe " you can't call everyone a nazi just because you don't like them" (cough) oh my where did that come from, sheesh.

[@rakelodakel]

​@@HelloHelloe incorrect stat.

[@hestan723]

@@rakelodakel that's the point He accept to sut up or he leave

[@MforMovesets]

I understand that Warhammer 40k has much imagery of facism, military, hatred of anything foreign etc. - but honestly, if you idolize the Empire THAT hard, you don't really understand how over the top, satirical and downright terrible for any citizen it really is.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

Spaniard here. Yes, being a nazi is legal here. What is not legal is joking about putting bombs under cars, o shooting people on the back of the neck. Those were the 2 main methods of execution used by ETA, one of the bloodiest terrorist organizations in Europe, currently dissolved, but which caused a lot of pain to our society and our people during the second half of the 20th century (especially in the 80's and 90's). Gee, it's almost like a country's history influences what they consider taboo or prohibited. Who would have known?

[@rakelodakel]

Whataboutism. A term the spaniard should look up. Lets also, while we're at it, look up your country's history regarding the groups that the Nazi affiliated himself with... Oh... Oh no... Yeah, the guy should have been thrown out.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

@@rakelodakel I don't think you understood my comment, which makes sense, since I can barely understand what you're saying here.

[@rakelodakel]

@@DudeWatIsThis 'whataboutism', look it up. The guy is part of a Spanish Fascist group (Spanish Phalanx of the Councils of the National Syndicalist Offensive), as well as being a neo nazi. You might want to look them up too. You know, since that's what we're talking about, not the ETA.

[@NewOldEBM]

Definitely all the Space Marine stuff, between the copyright woes and the way they remade the kits to be biggerer and betterer and make old casts look like manlets, "forcing" people to rebuy armies Or that time they made a trade embargo for online retailors, blocking off access to not ridiculously over costed models Or any time they jacked up prices like lunatics, where a box of 10 guys was $50, then a box of 5 of those guys.... was $50. Now $55. Take your pick. Personally it'd be a disservice to not point out how hecken expensive the game is if you were doing another vid

[@TheWonkster]

There's something beautiful about seeing an army of mighty manlet Space Wolves throwing themselves against whatever professionally painted brand new army the local IT guy with more money than sense decided to bring this time at your local game store. I would highly recommend it

[@NewOldEBM]

@@TheWonkster If only I had the cash to actually play anymore (let alone the time, lol) I'm sure it'd be beautiful

[@intergalacticpioneer3249]

First ever 40k set was a box of 20 Cadians for $35 USD. Now I can buy 10 for $50.

[@josephschultz3301]

I wonder if the same people who consider the Imperium of Man "the good guys" also strive to one day parent their children in the same manner as the Emperor. Or, as my buddy Luis calls him, "The Worst Father in All of Fiction".

[@liamvanniekerk1814]

There are two people, idiots and people who see the Imperium are just as bad as everyone else

[@max7971]

“I wonder if people who like fictional universes want to recreate them irl” no, they don’t.

[@exudeku]

The TTS Hiatus really fucks up the whole community...I feel sory for Alfabusa and the team.

[@MarkusMaximus2000]

Why? They're laughing all the way to the bank with minimal work.

[@Ffom177]

@@MarkusMaximus2000 people clearly like the style of humor and understand how long these animations take. I can't imagine doing all that work

[@Seagaltalk]

Nazi Symbolism shouldn't be illegal. Saying that, wearing it is definitely reprehensible.

[@VisceralSupreme]

I think it should, it is quite literally a threat

[@Seagaltalk]

@@VisceralSupreme you do not know what the word literaly means

[@Barb0nius]

I feel so bad for you Australians; you need NordVPN to get lit af in Minecraft

[@Phoney72]

Finally!! Someone gives the model eating community the shout-out it deserves

[@recentrogue]

Don't praise him. He's a scalper

[@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327]

@@recentrogue what are you talking about?

[@recentrogue]

@@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327 buying limited items. Accepting "influencer" only models and payouts. Part of the fucking problem with workshop and people who "talk shit" about them, is as soon as they get "influence" they think themselves above the average pleb because they can buy whole army's at a time. Literally anyone that gets a few subscribers becomes what they claim to hate and oppose

[@fleshautomatonanimatedbyne6327]

@@recentrogue ...what?

[@funybirbman3813]

@@recentrogue what

[@d4tsuc800]

Do warhammer players not homebrew or 3d print at all? Do the games workshop goons disappear you if you don’t buy their plastic?

[@ShowToddSomeLove]

Nazis found in Warhammer? Fork found in kitchen

[@lost_pmc_3927]

In fairness no matter what something it is likely that unlike able people will still show up

[@killinusoftly7744]

hmmm a "nazi" being in a Warhammer tournament is not a gw scandal, his personal views on politics and other blah blah blahs is his right which is supported by law. Here is my issue. In your video, you are encouraging people to conduct in acts of violence against this person (argue if u want to I don't care) you know it's true. I have an allergic reaction to telephone tough guys if that man was standing in front of you wearing his cornucopia of swastikas you'd be silent. why because he would probably kick your ass. Just in case somebody wants to jump on here saying they would have fought him. This man walked into a building full of people just like you and he check moved everybody including games workshop. so no you wouldn't

[@Byzz2077]

🤡

[@HoraceKock]

you’re kind of a keyboard crip for schizo posting, but okay

[@UFOFLOWSKII]

I still hate how nobody can make fan films freely, so many amazing artists going unknown

[@raistlin3462]

The final nail in the coffin (and the last laugh) was 3D printers becoming available to the general public. Why pay GW's ridiculous prices when you can make your own figures for cheap?

[@alexthestinker]

Hasnt really affected them too much

[@raistlin3462]

@@alexthestinker Enough for the company to throw a tantrum about it.

[@alexthestinker]

@@raistlin3462 Releasing a statement saying copies of their miniatures are theft isnt throwing a tantrum

[@raistlin3462]

@@alexthestinker Making copies for personal use or as gifts for friends is no theft.

[@alexthestinker]

@@raistlin3462 that isnt what's happening and we both know that

[@mazdaroadster-mx5]

"The guy who's a little bit too infatuated with the German army from WW2" fuck man I knew so many of these weird ass dudes.

[@invadervim9037]

At my local gw there was a guy that came in with a whole forgeworld Krieg army done up in red and black, iconography and all.

[@KT-pv3kl]

GW posted original artworks and grot minis painted as the red army red flags and everything and even publicized it in their white Dwarf magazine. I don't see how a Wehrmacht inspired Krieg paint scheme is any problem considering GW did something far edgier in the past and openly endorsed it in print.

[@CircusFoxxo]

Anyone who does that is an immediate red flag and also dumb, because the design of Kriegers are literally just WWI put through a blender