⚠️ WARNING ⚠️ Stop playing the piano if this ever happens! | Barbara Nissman

Barbara Nissman talks about physical tension in Bartok's Allegro Barbaro.
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[@MarxistischerMillionaer]

Playing fast octaves is like bouncing a basketball

[@chrismc1834]

Lmao u made me do it😂

[@jmrabinez9254]

Really? Is that true? Aren't you lying to me?

[@most_sane_piano_enthusiast]

​@@jmrabinez9254 Yeah, keep your wrists and fingers loose and slightly bounce around the keyboard. The shape of the hand shouldn't be static. The movement should mostly come from the elbow and wrist in this situation. If you are playing even faster octaves, you can attempt to only use the wrist for the up and down motion. Using mostly the shoulder is way too slow and stamina consuming.

[@Tony8418]

@@most_sane_piano_enthusiast student shows up for first piano lesson with a new teacher. “I’m working on this Rachmaninov piece.” Teacher: “dribble this basketball.”

[@lowlightpiano7110]

Repent and trust in Jesus. Hes the only way. We deserve Hell because weve sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23😊❤❤❤

[@born2brawl513]

Had the same issue playing the first movement of Beethoven’s Pathetique - endless tremolo for the LH is paaaainful

[@fatitankeris6327]

I think for octave tremolo, you need to kind of "slap" the wrist on keys, alternating both thumb and pinkie fingers.

[@allenapplewhite]

I had the same issue at first. Rotate from the wrist like you are turning a doorknob...or like wiggling a doorknob. If you try to play all those broken octaves in the LH using only your fingers then it will hurt in no time flat. I bet you a dollar that is what is going on here! 😊

[@alchemistofmusic8265]

Yeah indeed !

[@II-zf3vo]

Try using your wrist

[@dreuvasdevil9395]

exactly. as someone who plays a looot of beethoven including the pathetique i believe the best way to play that tremolo and still having the energy to put the proper emotions to the coda of the first movement is by making sure you play with almost no tension whatsoever for a good portion of the piece

[@marcusv7881]

Over 40 years of playing... With pain and tension in my shoulders. Thank you for this life changing advice!

[@itsjudystube7439]

Me too

[@callmeqt1269]

This is so important. I got tendinitis in my wrist from poor technique and overplaying, and now it’s made me not only much healthier but also much better as a pianist overall. The Chopin Method teaches that you should aim for total relaxation - never playing a note, but using your body’s weight to let your fingers fall into the notes. The sound that style creates is so much better and more controlled.

[@saberzahn]

She's so cool 😮

[@MCLemonyfresh]

I love Barbara! I’ve had the pleasure of speaking with her a few times and seeing a private show. Class act as a musician and a person. So cool to randomly find her here!

[@anaxiomenes3964]

Ma’am your lively face gestures and verbal expression are so clean and loaded with sympathy, that one can hardly attempt to resist the powerful magnetic effect.

[@JohnSmith-oe5kx]

Very good advice

[@G8tr1522]

man, the more shorts i watch, the more i realize I'm not the only one who takes a deep breath before each phrase 🤔

[@isaacburdiss]

She's so talented and nice! Met her today

[@eitanamir7918]

I was wondering where i heard this piece, then it struck me. ELPs the barbarian!

[@WalyB01]

Thanks for that would have taken me an hour!

[@MateaLekoPiano]

Absolutely true! Firts teacher who showed me this and taught me freedom of movement, making mistakes while practising with the purpose of playing free with no tension, basically “relaxing” the hand while playing allowed me to have so much more fun with practise and prepare the concerts with such confidence, where the beautiful tool - our body - just grows in this freedom, so does the range of sound.. beautiful, thank you lady Barbara!🙏💐

[@jj22arc90]

I used to struggle a lot with the infamous octaves of Chopin Polonaise op 53, I used to use too much strength trying to properly hit those octaves clearly, I knew it was wrong because I felt way too exhausted afterwards that I couldn’t keep up with the next part, so I decided to train my whole left arm to feel less tension as much as I could, if I start to feel heat in my hand or wrist, I’d stopped and I would rest for a bit, then after a lot of weeks of practicing, I found myself really enjoying playing those quick octaves.

[@PianoDude14373]

Awesome advice!! I got a wrist injury a year and a half ago because of the repeated LH chords in the second of theme of Liszt, Gnomenreigen and I wish that I had just known to STOP! If what you are doing is consistently giving you tension then it is not the right thing to do! Change your technique or if you have to, stop working on that part of the piece and do etudes that just focus on that aspect of your technique. The Czerny or Moszkowski etudes are really good!

[@gorcin7075]

The same applies to violins, violas, cellos, etc. cause we also need to use the fingers of our left hand constantly, and we need to space them out just to reach certain notes. Trust me, years of viola on my back, and I still sometimes have issues reaching notes without pain.

[@karkova_zhutya]

I play piano, but I'm learning playing violin for 2 years. One of my teachers was horrible. I was playing with huge pain in shoulders and hands (especially on the left side), but the teacher said: "You know. That's OK. You need to adjust." She said that to me for 4 months. I was playing violin for 1 year with another teacher, he said, that it's totally wrong. Then I went to new teacher. We fixed some technique, and I have almost no tension now. But my left shoulder still hurts :( (it's been 6 months already)

[@karkova_zhutya]

I wanted to say, that tension or pain in whatever part of your body is bad. You need to stop immediately and carefully fix the problem. Pain is not OK and without taking it away it can become part of your life

[@jhoylangoncalves3127]

She's just amazing

[@rajvirratia6703]

I used to only play with my hands in tension but then a nice teacher of mine helped me change now 6 years later I play great!

[@RebeccaLynnMusic]

She's a boss!

[@faithdesouza6692]

nice, shes an awesome player!!! 👏👍

[@goldmund2902]

Listen to her! I didn't and now I couldn't play any music in nearly 2 years. It actually is the worst...

[@dannygjk]

There are so many activities that can cause repetitive motion injury. If you ignore the pain the tendonitis can become chronic.

[@djmasterspacegaming2143]

“The piano is meant to be played like you’re embracing it, right?” -Arima Kousei

[@xiaoxiaoli811]

I love this lady❤!!!

[@hassansoliman970]

So much! She reminds of me of my old piano teacher when I was young and I'm so nostalgic now.

[@alchemistofmusic8265]

Hehe swimming is also about technique and relaxation ! Otherwise I would not explain 80 y/o ladies swimming twice my speed 😂

[@benharmonics]

Exactly. In fact, every physical skill is about technique and relaxation!

[@JSB2500]

Totally!

[@aerchys4779]

Yeah, I’m a musician and a martial artist, and I feel like my teachers are always giving me the exact same advice about losing tension

[@k22kk22k]

I found many classical piano textbooks were written for literal elites or nobles in 19th or early 20th century Europe, where showing off a skill was a real deal. Many teachers fail to recognize this background and take the advice on them literally, generating too many crushed souls… I believe good modernization is needed, by retargeting audience and leveraging current scientific understanding of learning processes.

[@JSB2500]

Yes, I fully agree. I'm doing this modernization with the violin at the moment, based on my day job re how the brain works 😃.

[@floyddango]

I think we still shouldnt forget how physical it is and that a certain degree of tension is inevitable especially in beginners/intermediates that havent developed their hands and whose physiological structures are not yet adapted to these kinds of movements. However Im not sure how to handle for example muscle fatigue when practising lets say scales. At a certain tempo you will inevitably fatigue and then get tension and my question would be, if that is a good sign as there is this notion of "when you exhaust your neuromascular system it will adapt during rest times". You cant adapt if you dont exhaust but with exhaustion comes a certain degree of tension. Too much tension obviously is bad. Id be glad for some advice.

[@user-gm2gj1xi4v]

Many great points! I'd like to know the answers too...

[@mariejacobs7546]

Thanks

[@jasonhe5578]

My forearm keeps hurting randomly especially when I play fast, sometimes it happens (usually when I just start playing) and sometimes it doesn’t. My teacher says I should stop playing when it happens but it’s really annoying when it happens at the start of my practice

[@sunnysideup9316]

Someones lucky to have this grandma🫠

[@jcripp7974]

Excellent advice. Goes for every instrument. If you cramp youre doing it wrong

[@allenapplewhite]

Although guitarists will argue against that very sound advice. Playing guitar IS PAINFUL to all beginners. They have to wear down their fingertips until they are raw (and sometimes BLEEDING) to build up thick calluses so they can play. Not to mention crazy fretboard hand contortions to reach certain chords. I dont play guitar, I quit after 2 weeks for this very reason. I take piano far too seriously to allow some silly side instrument to deaden the nerves on my fingertips and Im sure my girlfriend wouldnt like rough scratchy guitarist hands with extra layers of dead skin...

[@ghintz2156]

What a beast. I hope I can play with that level of tenacity when I'm older.

[@michaelsmith697]

My great teacher always told me to stop if ever I feel pain or tension! Her teacher was a pupil of Liszt.

[@CameronGuarino]

Allegro Barbara

[@BodybuilderKingViky]

You reminded me of Dorothy Taubman. ❤

[@DanielRobertspiano]

Glad someone said it!

[@r.i.p.volodya]

Playing a whole recital or perhaps a concerto does in fact require stamina...

[@salomongreen]

Very good point!

[@allenapplewhite]

I once read an article years ago that stated that a concert pianist giving a solo recital expends the SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY as a starting quarterback in a full NFL game. Of course, you have to remember that in football they spend more than 2/3rds of the actual game (game ON, clock counting DOWN) huddling and talking and slapping each others butts. So when you consider that out of the *3 and 1/2 hours* it takes for them to finish 60 minutes of "game-play" (LMAO) the football is only run and the actual game of football is only played for a whopping 17 minutes or so. And then remember, the quarterback only plays for HALF of the game...so like 8 1/2 minutes per game spread out over an agonizing 3 1/2 hours of watching people mostly stand around... (Take out those 17 minutes where they actually run and tackle and throw the ball--and you are watching something that has the equivalent excitement value as GOLF...with *lots* of hugging and whispering closely in each others ears and extra butt slappage...so a little different than golf, but equally as exciting! NOTHING interesting HAPPENS.) I would argue that a classical pianist expends MORE energy in a full solo recital or concerto than an NFL quarterback playing a FULL 8 1/2 minutes of actual football! And no beginner who hasnt already practiced 10,000 hours would be able to physically play 50,000 notes. You DO build general stamina the more you practice. Practice 3 hours one day when you usually only get 30 minutes and you will feel exhausted and very well may be sore the next day. Practice 3 hours every day and you never/rarely feel exhausted or get sore. Stamina is a real thing in piano playing because this is a physical activity. Many people who have put in their 10,000 hours of practice may just take their stamina for granted.

[@MozartFong]

You're missing the point completely

[@salomongreen]

@@MozartFong I probably am lol, please explain !

[@allenapplewhite]

@@salomongreen The point is to not play with tension and never play "through" any pain. If it hurts, you are doing something wrong and you could potentially injure yourself and permanently affect your playing. However, your original point is totally valid as well. It in fact DOES take a bit of stamina to perform a solo recital or concerto. Not only physical stamina, but mental stamina as well to maintain the intense amount of focus necessary to perform 50,000 notes (plus phrasing and voicing and articulation and fingering and pedaling and dynamics etc.) all from memory. So, you are right. Your arms can get tired, your muscles can get sore, and practicing helps build your general stamina. However, what increases your stamina the MOST is playing in a relaxed manner in general. Using only the muscles necessary to perform an action--otherwise known as "economy of motion." For example, if you play with "tea-cup" fingers that raise into the air, you are using the muscles of one finger to play a note and also using all the rest of the muscles in your hand to raise your fingers and make them farther away from the next note they have to play--highly inefficient and a waste of energy and most certainly will lead to strain and tension. It is hard to relax, but you only need the muscles for that ONE finger, not every muscle in your hand. Also, remember to try to have loose shoulders, elbows, and wrists. It is not *only* about the fingers. But NOT a loose back! Sit upright and on the front edge of your bench, not way back. Only your bottom should touch the bench, not your thigh muscles. This also helps greatly with pedaling! Try pedaling sitting like I described and then scoot the bench forward and sit all over it, thighs and all, and try again. You will most likely feel strain shooting up your right shin every time you pedal. So scooch the bench back and scoot your bottom forward, and pedaling should feel consistently better! Try to stay loose and limber. "We practice hard so we can play lazy." - my teacher used to say.

[@noahmartin5239]

Me watching this while my fongers bleed while playing bartoks 2nd concerto: 0_0

[@hiera1917]

How do you loosen up while also being accurate with the notes you’re aiming for?

[@ciararespect4296]

Relaxation is a misnomer. You can't be fully relaxed. Its a case of being AS RELAXED AS POSSIBLE. Your fingers and bridge have to be fairly firm but instantly relax after playing the notes or chords

[@predragtolmachev3883]

Honestly great advice for any musician except maybe for horns/ woodwinds. Any instrument you play with your hands/fingers you want to be smooth a sun relaxed

[@juliegill6278]

EXCELLENT advice!!!! Does anyone know who this lady is? She's BRILLIANT!!!!;

[@EyeLean5280]

Wonderful piece!

[@No_auto_toon]

That’s why I never learned piano. It always made me tense so I kept stopping

[@Cegros]

What a sharp ol broad! Has anybody else noticed that everybody featured on this channel still has such authority over their faculties?

[@kuznetskiibassein3840]

Thanks!

[@doubleXgamingK]

especially if you have chronic pain/hypersensitivity/hypermobility

[@Geoplanetjane]

I once ended up with tennis elbow after playing my piano too long.

[@Hullj]

Wow! That's the first Bartok I"ve ever liked. Well done. You opened a mind?

[@dominikdelinic9951]

And how to learn that free tension playing? How to get off the bad routine of building tension while playing the piano?

[@user-qp1yg2bu1m]

I’m right now learning Liszt’s transcendental etude Wilde Jagd. It is nothing but pain and there’s no way to escape it

[@pianisthenics]

Why?

[@goldenpawn6194]

Also play with the weight of your arm not the muscle it allows for better sound and less tension

[@trancosomarcus]

How? Do you have a video showing this?

[@caduceus33]

Who is this wonderful lady?

[@NajeebMaraqa]

As someone who just finished playing caprice.6 by Paganini/Lizt I do not relate at all😭

[@thepianist8756]

You are not wrong. Whenever I play moonlight sonata 3rd movement I play it with tension and as a result my hands cramp up and I'm not able to play my right hand smoothly

[@user-kx5wu8fg9r]

fantstic❤❤❤❤

[@danichang2700]

When I'm playing any piece, it looks like I'm trying to give a birth to a hedgehog 🦔😂🤣🤣🤣 Right now I'm gonna try to have fun, no tension

[@unnamedunnamed562]

Well from the vid I can see a lot of tension, the most ergonomic playing is never about lifting wrists so much

[@aidanmays7825]

Theres good pain and bad pain when it comes to your muscles, joints, etc. Know the difference

[@bernardodc9631]

Had to stop because of that 😥

[@nemo227]

It should feel good.

[@andreamurrone_pianoforte]

👏👏👏

[@antjamnow1286]

Do you have advice for practicing 10ths with both hands?

[@Artsea_Grace]

Unless you are stretching and exercising your hand muscles to extended your reach! 👋🏻🤞🏻🤙🏻

[@philippe-lebel]

I always have tensions. I learned piano the wrong way :(

[@laurenking9524]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@domv9225]

Good videos, but the placement of your captions detract from the speaker

[@fifibg]

where is the full video

[@jasonmanley7815]

I understand the concept of playing without any tension but doesn't holding the shape of the hand for octaves create tension in the hands by it's very nature? Obviously you cannot have a completely relaxed hand and maintain that spread.

[@spicy7302]

It all depends on hand size. The bigger your hands, the less tension you produce by doing that stretch. It's not about playing with "no tension", it's more about reducing it to absolute necessity and releasing it as soon as you can. Yes, you do tense up your hand muscles when you play an octave, but then you bounce off the keys and it gives you the opportunity to slightly release those muscles before pressing again. With faster speeds, this release becomes smaller and smaller, and it is very important to make sure you're being as efficient as possible with it. So, in short, yes, playing octaves for some people with smaller hands produces tension and is altogether a harder technique for them to do properly and requires more effort and more release.

[@jasonmanley7815]

@@spicy7302 Hi there. I appreciate the very thorough explanation! I hope you have an awesome weekend!

[@jessevallejo8797]

Pish-posh. No pain, no gain.

[@kgroveringer03]

Then expect to do permanent damage to yourself.

[@timmypbass]

Which Bartok is this?

Allegro Barbaro

[@hypnose_318]

I disagree a bit In my opinion some passages require to use a kind of tension even if its not healty Like in scarbo by ravel, it would be paradoxal if a pianist play octave totally relaxed in a music wich express the opposite

[@spicy7302]

That's exactly how it DOESN'T work. Physical tension doesn't produce musical tension. It's the opposite, in fact. The more relaxed your arms are, the more energy you can deliver to your fingertips and produce more sound. That's how you produce tension in music, not by tensing YOURSELF up.

[@mattisj.419]

Whether it is playing the piano or the guitar, i always have muscle tension problems. I'm almost starting to think it's gotta be a medical condition or something

[@JonasCraftUltimate]

Probably tendonitis, look up “why my guitar tendonitis won’t go away” and you’ll find an explanation which will help for loans as well

[@scottweaverphotovideo]

I have no idea what 'tension' is supposed to be.

[@robcat2075]

Yet another person who thinks "tension" means "pain". No. Tension is how muscles work. They work in pairs that move your bones by creating tension on one side and then the other. If you mean "pain," say "pain".

[@patrickwalt6903]

I thought someone with a really long beard was playing the piano

[@user-ic9yw2qw9s]

Interesting. To bad life doesn’t play by the same rules. In fact. Seems like this world and it’s agenda is too increase stress and strife to the point where we over heat and break down..only to find our way into a doctors office for some pills or to self medicate with drugs and alcohol..all in all this broken world would rather have all humans burn the candle at both ends to expire quickly and never feel or enjoy to glow of our own or anybody else’s light.. mainly our own

[@leecarlopace3280]

Music only the highly musically intelligent people could understand and appreviate. Its basically thrash for ordinary prople like me. Sorry i just entered the wrong door.

[@trancosomarcus]

Impossible not tension.

[@hectorsanzcastillo1722]

This is really harmful advice. Pretending that one doesn't need active muscular tension in order to play the piano is, to say the least, naive. She is actually not playing like she is saying, there is quite a lot of tension which is going nowhere, it doesn't translate into the sound. She is not playing fortissimo, maybe mezzoforte. But thats quite a poor sound that would definitely not reach further than the 3rd row of the audience.

[@spicy7302]

You don't need "active" muscular tension. You need efficient muscular tension and efficient release of the tension whenever possible. If you're actively tense, you're not playing efficiently and you're definitely not going to produce good sound lol

[@austonsmith536]

I look at it like... no matter how I'm feeling, I will play. Tense, stressed, frustrated, relaxed, underwhelmed, overwhelmed... has no grounds to make me stop. No youtube people, traditions, grand illusions of whatever people say could possibly make me stop. If some random youtube person's rationality made me stop clicking ivory... I would've never started as absolutely nothing in my reality has anything to do with any sort of music playing and every last person in all walks of life I meet find it pointless and a waste of time if I'm not making money doing so [because they are already bought and sold with no clue or meaning]. Once you've established beyond one's own means of survival that you will play... I doubt a little tick in your thumb joint or a pinky soreness would even be considered grounds for even acknowledging. While the world finds reasons to not play... I only can see reasons to do so, regardless of any misfortunes that hath befallen thee. C'est la vie...

[@allenapplewhite]

So...play through the pain, huh? I'm sorry to hear that you choose to ignore the advice of those who have already travelled this path, know the twists and turns ahead and have warnings for traps and pitfalls you will encounter along the way. Apparently you must make your own mistakes and refuse to learn from the mistakes of others, so therefore you will inevitably repeat many of those completely avoidable mistakes and take a wrong turn and fall into an avoidable trap or two... Many a pianist throughout history has had a similar attitude and had their piano playing days abruptly ENDED because they ignored tension in their playing and just kept practicing through the pain. *If it hurts, you are doing something wrong.* Full stop. That was the point she was making in the video and then you choose to share with the world that you will intentionally ignore that sound advice for some reason. I mean I get you may have to practice or perform under stressful or frustrating situations, but that is not what this video is about. This video is about making sure you don't practice so POORLY that you end up never being able to practice AGAIN. Bad technique can literally END your piano career. Many pianists have had various hand injuries throughout all of history. Just look up Robert Schumann, Alexander Scriabin, Sergei Rachmaninoff, Leon Fleisher, Gary Graffman, Wanda Landowska, Artur Schnabel, Glenn Gould, and many, many others. Lang Lang even cancelled some concerts in 2018 because of tendonitis. The show does not always go on. And if you think more experienced pianists dont know any better than you and your "play through the pain" attitude, then go talk to your local doctor or physician about TENDONITIS and CO-CONTRACTION and "static muscular activity" and ask them if they think that a pianist playing with terribly tense technique--contrary to the sound advice of Piano teachers around the world--is at risk of developing issues in the future that could cause them to be *forced* to stop playing all-together. Ignore the advice of those who know better than you AT YOUR OWN RISK. And remember that you are risking EVERYTHING. I dont want to say I told you so on this one, dude. Clearly you like the piano, as do I...but please be careful. I write this hoping to change your mind and make you think carefully about how you practice. Relax. That is the key! Just relax! 😄

[@austonsmith536]

@@allenapplewhite I'm a guitarist learning piano. To have the dexterity I have... I've already went through most of these "pains" people speak of. I actually struggle playing slow ... not fast. Which is weird as a beginner. I make most mistakes going slow, not fast. Of course, as a beginner focusing on posture and proper hand placement is no.1 and if something hurts there's a problem. But to stop playing instead of simply fixing the problem... I would assume your heart is not in it. In this world today... we have plenty of reasons to stop playing and do something else. I'd rather focus on fixing the problems and keep playing. Comparing beginners to Lang Lang is a tad bit ridiculous... his tendonitis would be far more serious than folks learning proper wrist movement and thumb shimmies. [These finger movements going through the chromatic and pentatonic scales, I've already learned while holding a full-body electric guitar, going up and down the neck with a crooked wrist and fingers feeling like they're on fire with just a slight touch... and now that dexterity converts nicely to piano but you're not holding 40 pounds at an angle mashing steel strings. It's quite silly to think a slight crook of the wrist and you feel pain somewhere... means you should stop after learning the scales on a fretboard, but most pianist will not understand, I guess]

[@allenapplewhite]

@@austonsmith536 I think the biggest thing you are misunderstanding is when they say something like "if it hurts, stop" you interpret that to mean if it hurts, QUIT PLAYING PIANO FOREVER. That is not what they are saying AT ALL. If it hurts, stop RIGHT THEN. Take a break. Stop for an hour, stop for a day...stop until there is no pain. Stop until your next piano lesson and ask your teacher. If you dont have a teacher then get one or ask someone who knows better...or do some more research... And I see where your "play through the pain" attitude originated. You play GUITAR. That explains everything. To you and your experience, learning an instrument IS painful--it is the only thing you know. You literally wear the skin off of your fingertips until they are raw (and sometimes BLEEDING) and develop thick heavy callouses over the course of months and years of constant pain. These callouses cover your fingertips and make it so you lose all sense of touch and sensitivity in an area of your body you rely on (arguably THE MOST) for touch and sensitivity. For guitar, pain is a PART OF THE PROCESS. For piano, IF IT HURTS, YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG. These two instruments are very obviously different from each other. It shouldnt take a genius to realize that each requires the use of a totally different technique. And playing while holding a "40 lb. Guitar at an awkward angle" and bragging about it is a silly thing to do. First off, get a lighter guitar (one that doesn't weigh as much as *four* other guitars, for starters) and maybe wear a strap like a normal guitarist. All the weight goes to your shoulder, not your arm. If you are dual wielding guitar and piano, then you should be seated anyways, with the guitar also resting on your knee. So you have ZERO pounds of additional weight in your arms. I was the store manager of a music store and sold guitars and talked to guitarists ALL DAY. They dont weigh 40 lbs. Unless you put a 30 lb. aftermarket pickguard on it or something...lol And tendonitis is not different for a beginner or for Lang Lang. Or someone sitting at a computer desk typing, or getting tendinitis working with hand tools on a construction site. And remember: tendonitis is not the ONLY thing to worry about. It can happen to beginners or professionals. Musicians and non-musicians who use their hands. But the bottom line is, you do you. If you want to play for the next 5-10 years struggling with pain and bad technique, go for it. I would rather play for the REST OF MY LIFE with good technique and no pain. But what do I know? I have only played piano for the past 28 years and was only a scholarship winning Piano Pedagogy Major in college taking 7 years of private piano lessons through three different teachers and have been teaching piano myself for the past 10 years. Clearly I dont know as much about piano as some guy who plays GUITAR. LMAO.

[@austonsmith536]

@@allenapplewhite well... here is my guitar dexterity on the piano... in terms of fingering.... they're surprisingly very similar [I would've never started learning piano if they were completely different hand/dexterity useage wise]. This just proves that the naysayers are not worth listening to when it comes to musicianship; and despite shortcomings, of any sort, one can still learn any instrument with no regard towards gatekeepers of any type, attempting to pursuade you otherwise. [I've not referenced learning piano or giving it up, I've only meant for the here and now because "now is the only thing that's real", tomorrows never comes, yesterday is light years behind us, I've only meant the playing of an instrument NOW]. I've been practicing octaves and notice some small pain in the wrist area, i did not let this dictate my schedule, I simply adjusted my form.... straightened out the wrist and kept it still... continued playing, what happened? My wrist healed itself by relaxing it and continued hitting chromatic octaves as fast and as slow as possible. Mixing it up, it took one practice session, a nap, 24 hours later and voila!!!! I can now play the octaves with mixmatched timing [left hand at 4/4 right hand at 3/4]. If I wasn't dedicated beyond youtuber advice... I would not be able to play these octaves like that, if at all. Without the pain, I couldn't possibly implement heart and dedication to this respective discipline. I respect the older pianists pushing their opinions and experience onto the beginners. But that's it, acknowledgement. When it comes down to brass tax... you have to have established a layer of integrity thicker than youtube comments section. But that's just rational thought... nothing more, nothing less... kzbin.infovmqJUPqlFs0?feature=share

[@lowlightpiano7110]

Repent and trust in Jesus. Hes the only way. We deserve Hell because weve sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him. John 3:16 Romans 3:23❤😊❤❤

[@letoatreides5165]

How is there not tension in those hands at the start?

[@austonsmith536]

You don't get it.... it's a test to see if your heart is in it or not. It has fuck-all to do with your physiological state. The greatest pieces or players required tension or would be booed off stage in the 18th and 19th centuries. And those are our goals to be able to administer a proper amount of tension during specific moments. If you're completely relaxed through LA Campennella, Liszt would simply walk out of the room... no words could speak his dastardly deeds that would strike upon his thoughts. He would feel you not even worth his scoff. 😂

[@TwenOalley]

When musicians say "tension" they mean "excess tension". Ofc with no tension at all your arms would just fall to the side of your body limp. But you definitely shouldn't feel stiff or tense in general. You should be relaxed and your muscles should move easily. If you feel like you need to really push/force it, you're just going to get RSI, and you'll sound like shit while doing it :P Emphasize proper posture and alignment, and using the weight of your arms instead of the strength of your fingers to play.

[@ciararespect4296]

The bartok piece spoilt it. So fake and sped up as to be ridiculous Look at her body 😂

[@Gunblastz]

Sorry but I don't believe every piece can be played without pain.

[@6thour592]

need her