The First Sino-Japanese War--The Birthplace of Imperial Japanese Expansionism

[@manofcultura]

I like the part where the Soviet Union under Yuri travelled back in time to fight border wars with the Qing.

[@lullu311]

Comrade Yuri, unsung hero of the Soviet Union.

[@PiousMoltar]

Conscript reporting.

[@cd5433]

Just about to comment that lol

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Yeah...

[@tanguero_]

Simon doesn't bother to read these?

[@lajoyalobos2009]

I know you already covered the Russo-Japanese war, but the insane journey of the Russian Baltic fleet deserves its own video. Simon's humor in that story would be a good match.

[@devastator6570]

I’d watch that

[@ThatGUY666666]

There is a video by Bluejay you should check out if you have not. Still, I would love to see Simon cover it, I am sure it would be hilarious in a different way

[@jimtalbott9535]

“Do you see torpedo boats?”

[@jimtalbott9535]

@@ThatGUY666666 Drachinifel also has an excellent video on that journey.

[@simonkevnorris]

@Jim Talbott - I've watched that and it is epic.

[@michaelsinger4638]

It’s extremely impressive how quickly Japan manages to modernize. And build such a powerful modern military,

[@spritemon98]

Both scary and amazing

[@ricecakeboii94]

Did know guns allow training to be done in months instead of decades? It took 10-15 years before an archer is proficient with a bow. Pulling a trigger at a target takes an afternoon & being proficiency with a firearm takes ~1,000 rounds. US army boot camp poops out soldiers in 2-3 months.

[@TurtleChad1]

After this war the Imperial Japanese Army learned their lesson and never again decided to massacre civilians and prisoners out of anger and boredom.

[@Junedmx]

Lol

[@Grimnir_x]

And they all lived happily ever after

[@Hillbilly001]

Right.

[@ex-navyspook]

...oh...wait...

[@americanuscaesar]

Uh huh

[@chickenintrousers6723]

2:03 “by Britain, France, and even the Soviet Union” don’t think the Soviet Union existed during the 1800s lol

[@Knihti1]

2:02 "...Britain, France and even Soviet Union." This is some Red Alert type of time traveler shenanigans.

[@shandonoates9614]

2:04 Russian Empire not Soviet Union, love your videos btw

[@Benzi514]

1:50 - mutual trade was not a thing, China basically exported goods in ecchange for silver, the British then started to smuggle Opium in exchange for goods (mainly tea) until the Qing government put an end to it (which lead to the first opium war) 2:10 - Both Opium wars were over before the Soviet Union ever existed.

[@kcollier2192]

This video reminds me of an old PBS series called Connections, where a British narrator examined the connection between some modern invention or process and something seemingly unrelated from the past. Very informative and interesting - well done all.

[@decodingtheunknown2373]

That's a great concept for a show.

[@XXMatt0040XX]

@@decodingtheunknown2373 there's totally an opportunity for a bus-- brain blaze video in that idea

[@sandybarnes887]

Yeah. James Burke was amazing. The timing of the Voyager launch was outstanding

[@rosenraikov]

Kioubv9i

[@ignitionfrn2223]

1:35 - Chapter 1 - The circumstances for war 10:10- Chapter 2 - The war 13:30 - Chapter 3 - The aftermath - Chapter 4 - - Chapter 5 - - Chapter 6 -

[@potatosinnato1767]

2:04 You're 62 years too early for the Soviet union

[@InquisitorXarius]

lol blooper

[@samsungtesz2193]

BTW at that time, it's so-called Russian empire duh🤦‍♂️

[@dmoon9037]

Or those Opium Wars actually occurred in the 20th century? Lol

[@ironmanhowes8200]

2:03 im assuming you meant russia when you said soviet union. (just a nitpick)

[@SamtheIrishexan]

Gangster I was bored at work and 💥 💥 💥 a warographics drops!

[@markhough1027]

It's great having historical battles on this thank you. I love to see the 1798 Irish rebellion

[@Andy-te1mw]

Thank you again to everyone who makes these videos. Really educates and helps get me threw the day!

[@jacksonstarky8288]

This was one I've been waiting a while for. Thank you! Hopefully the Second Opium War video is in the works too.

[@HikeZaddy]

Love you Simon

[@Hillbilly001]

Oh goodie! Warographics has posted. Cheers

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

The war commonly known in China as the War of Jiawu, referring to the year (1894) as named under the traditional sexagenary system of years. In Japan, it is called the Japan-Qing War. In Korea, where much of the war took place, it is called the Qing-Japan war.

[@timmyturner327]

interesting. Thanks for the info.

[@1978Topel]

This is the only voice I can fall asleep toooooooo.

[@andyyang3029]

Was missing some older stuff, thanks!

[@Phenom24uk]

Finally. Back to 'History' and not current events!

[@steelofthealloys1081]

Thank you I can't wait until I get home to watch this

[@RRHardyHar]

Glad we're getting videos about past wars instead of speculations on the outcome of the Ukrainian war IMO

[@ActivateMysticMine]

This is one I’ve been eagerly waiting for!

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

A wonderful historical coverage about the Sino-Japanese War, which introduced more facilities to European empirical existence on Chinese territories besides practical embodiments of the Japanese empire invented of Formosa Island and other Chinese territories

[@Destroyer120296]

Nice video. You planning on covering the second Sino Japanese war?

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Here we go!

[@societalnormality2268]

Here we go!

[@radi0fm]

Wish there was subtitles with these uploads. But besides that, these videos are super good

[@sandybarnes887]

Closed captions are available now. The subtitles are made by KZbin, not this channel and are placed when KZbin decides to do them 🙃

[@RR-in7do]

Was starting to miss these history themed Warographics!

[@ironpro1511]

True! The last one was the Cuban missile crisis, over 1 month ago Crazy

[@302racing3]

Can you explore the Battle of Leyte Gulf or the Battle of Jutland? Naval combat is always fascinating to discuss

[@coreybenson3122]

For an in depth look at the battle of Leyte, BBC created a documentary called Battlefield WWII. They have a 90 minute episode dedicated to it.

[@EmilyJelassi]

Very interesting video!! How many Sino-Japanese wars were there? Will you be covering all of them? We didn’t get a lot of Asian history in school, so this is fascinating! Excellent work Simon and team 😊👏🏻🔥🙌🏻

[@ridgecrestwack9746]

There were two, the second one was apart of Japan's invasion at the pre- beginning of WWII

[@miliba]

@@ridgecrestwack9746 Lets hope a third doesnt break out

[@iCrapBubbles]

@@ridgecrestwack9746 The second Sino-Japanese war did mark the start of WWII, in my opinion.

[@ridgecrestwack9746]

@@iCrapBubbles I pretty much agree too

[@ridgecrestwack9746]

@@miliba if things continue on their current trajectory then I'd almost count on it

[@herypineda255]

In the mexican capital city of Merida, there was a bar called Chemulpo, renamed after 1905. A sad history, that one.

[@killer3000ad]

There were a bunch of other incidents not mentioned in the video in the lead up to the war, such as the Nagasaki incident in 1886 when the Beiyang fleet made a port of call there and the Qing sailors went to shore and started fights with the locals. A riot broke out that saw fighting between local police and civilians against the Qing sailors resulting in deaths on both sides. The incident led to a huge uptick in anti-Qing sentiment in Japan.

[@Theshropshireratter]

Battle for Lake Tanganyika make a great video carrying a mini navy overland though jungle to defeat a stronger opposition.

[@danielknapp5189]

I know that this might be controversial video to make due to the fact that tensions has highted between these two countries in recent years, but could you guys on Warographics please make a video about the Greco-Turkish war?

[@miliba]

My grandpa fought in the Second Sino-Japanese War

[@thorpeaaron1110]

You guys should definitely cover The Battle of Antietam the bloodiest single day in American History.

[@seanmarshall5463]

I like how Japan absolutely kicking Britan and France’s butts in the Pacific at the beginning of WWII was actually kind of caused by their mistreatment of China some 90 years earlier. What goes around comes around I guess.

[@scaler1179]

You should do an episode on the 800. In 1937.

[@theawesomeman9821]

As a Chinaman, I'm more upset at the incompetent Chinese leadership than I am towards the Japanese for the outcome of this war.

[@zed9251]

As a Korean, same but with the Korean leadership at the time

[@mangyminotaur30]

You mentioned the Soviet Union in 2:00 , I’m assuming you meant the Russian empire?

[@deanzaZZR]

Chinese dynasties looked at Japan with contempt for over a millennium as Japan would not (regularly) acknowledge China as the supreme power. Japanese invasions of Korea in the 7th and 16th centuries failed miserably as China extended a helping hand to the Kingdom of Korea. It was only a modernizing Meiji Japan that finally had the confidence to confront China openly with some initial success (and misery for many) followed by ultimate defeat at the end of WW2.

[@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988]

a more fitting way to end the video: "[...] one that wouldn't end till the second nuke was dropped on japan"

[@multiyapples]

Rest in peace to those that passed away.

[@PhoenixAscending]

You should do a warographics on the Russo-Japanese war, if you haven't already

[@Hillbilly001]

They already have. According to the playlist it was released 11 months ago. Cheers

[@etzool]

I enjoyed this, but I do hope someone notices the red X's over the transitions. I could only guess why they're there, but I assume they're not supposed to be; they're more than a bit distracting from an otherwise good presentation.

[@dmoon9037]

Something amiss around time hack 2:00 with the mention of the Soviet Union (a 20th century construct) and the Opium Wars (19th century conflicts).

[@A13X_H_22]

What ever happened to your Japanese history channel you said you were making? It was either that or some alternate history channel. You only mentioned them both in passing

[@tomashidalgo5538]

2:04 Auch…. As a history nerd, that was painful to heard. I will forgive you this time, I will consider it as a misspoken moment. ;v

[@bluenight104]

I think you guys messed up on small detail. At 2:05 you mention how the Qing were defeated by Britain, France & the “Soviet Union”. First sino-Japanese war was from 1894-95? The Soviet Union was founded in 1922 and the Russian Revolution itself didn’t occur till 1917.

[@joemagnus5085]

Imperial Japan was like the kid in that old anti-drug commercial from the 80's. "Who taught you how to do this stuff!?" "You alright! I learned it by watching you!"

[@1978Topel]

This is a stupendous

[@duncancurtis5971]

The Sick Man of Asia! Bruce Lee's Fist 👊 of Fury 1971.

[@dohminkonoha3200]

To be honest, victory of Japan was almost impossible. China had advanced 2 battleships and more guns and soldiers in 1894. Even Japanese prime minister feared Chinese landing operation on Japan.

[@weirdshibainu]

I don't know who these Imperial Japanese are, but it seems like they're going to do very well in the future years of the 1940s.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Amazing!

[@plaguedoctormorphious]

I wonder what the old Samurai warlords would think about Japan winnings these battles against China and annexing Korea.

[@jarrodyuki7081]

disguise yourself as a civilian and flee the battlefield.

[@thevenbede767]

We need more maps. Idk where anything is happening

[@back2babylon513]

Did you just skip over the Naniwa incident or what? I'd always heard that Togo's actions there pretty much kicked off the war.

[@dannypayton5965]

I remember very well watch this day on TV and just waiting to see what county we were going to go to war with and the hurt I felt when I found out it was a American who did this

[@QuantumNoir]

Muy interesante

[@1978Topel]

Literally. All channels,

[@denisecorzette1676]

🖐 Simon

[@reconsoldier135]

Did Simon say “Soviet Union” referring to events in the 19th century?

[@evanwood8985]

Dude, you talk so damn fast I have to replay sections just to follow. It's KZbin not Twitter. Adding maps of what areas your talking about would be a great visual aid as well. Great content though. You give great perspective on what lead to future events that "most" (used loosely in this age) know about.

[@joels5150]

You can always set the playback speed a bit slower.

[@XamaL1]

Nice video, but you It would help if you talked slower so your audience (with english as a foreign language) could process your words

[@metalthrashingai2238]

Can you do the Battle of Doiran (1918)? It's pretty ironic to ask a channel hosted by a British to do it but it's a pretty important battle for the history of my country. This or any Balkan related warfare that is not the 90s would be great. P.S. Why was Korea so willing to be under foreign rule?

[@jxz107]

It depends on whether you're referring to different political factions or the common Korean people. At the time, the conservatives in Korea were pro-Beijing, while progressive intellectuals in Korea looked up to Japan. But just as Chinese and Japanese intellectuals/government officials are a heterogenous group, so were the Koreans. For example, many conservatives wanted a stronger alliance with Beijing, while progressives wanted a reformed Korea that follows Japan's path. But there hasn't been any sources showing that a majority of them advocated for direct foreign rule. Peasants had no voice in government decisions in the late Joseon period, so saying that they were "willing to be under foreign rule" is misleading. For example, during the peasant rebellion mentioned in the video, their forces fought Korean state, Qing, and Japanese troops as part of a nationalist movement. Some reasons that Korea as a state capitulated so quickly include: 1. Korea made none of the reforms that Japan and China did because of its leadership's incessant fixation on conservative neo-Confucianism and rejection of Western ideals/tech 2. A centralized state that brutally suppressed any public attempts at reform 3. A reliance on foreign states to balance against each other because Korea was too late to modernize enough to catch up on its own Regardless, it was a terrible time to be Korean, and part of the reason why modern South Korea is the way it is today (strong investments in military and engagement with the international community) is surely to prevent another scenario like this one from occurring.

[@poil8351]

more complex queen min was trying to mordernize the country and thus was pro russian and fairly anti japan.

[@opanababy]

@@jxz107thanks for the info!

[@michaelb1761]

"Modeled after the British Navy", the 18th century British Navy.

[@ridgecrestwack9746]

Helps explain China's current position and attitude, I can't blame them being as aggressive as they are

[@frankieseward8667]

When you get absolutely destroyed in just 6 months yeah, weariness is warranted

[@Jones-xf5rr]

I do blame them actually

[@adriangonzalez1665]

Please, the american-english 1812 war is always forgotten but quite interesting

[@SoundShinobiYuki]

Forgotten? If you grow up in Canada, it’s like 90% of the history you learn in school (partly because it was the last real war fought on our own soil). Especially if you lived in a historic city that actually saw battle like I did.😅

[@sandybarnes887]

It's only forgotten because we burned down their White House, eh 😂 🇨🇦

[@SoundShinobiYuki]

@@sandybarnes887 I can never bring that up without needing to quote Three Dead Trolls In A Baggie. "And the White house burned burned BURNED, and we're the ones that did it! It burned burned burned, while the president ran and cried! It burned burned burned, and things were very historical! And the Americans cried like a bunch of little babies yeah yeah yeah, in the War of 1812!" 🤣

[@sandybarnes887]

@@SoundShinobiYuki 😂 I love it. Thx

[@encapsulatedslime]

2:00 the Opium Wars involved the Soviet Union?

[@andrewberrocal2281]

I didn’t know the Soviet Union existed in the 19th century

[@michaelb1761]

You must believe the lies of the capitalist pig-dogs. Glorious Soviet Union has existed for centuries and will rule the world. (Please read with a Russian accent.)

[@iwatchDVDsonXbox360]

1:55 wait... Soviet Union?! 🤨

[@sashaburrow6186]

Ooops - look like someone hasn't got a licensed plug-in...

[@JawsHLL]

Yes

[@killer3000ad]

We live in great times when youtube channels do documentaries better than the History Channel. If HC did this, they would have stretched it out over 10 episodes with dozens of interviews with historians and 'experts' followed by shitty re-enactors and unrelated footage taken from unrelated movies.

[@AbsoluteKhan.]

Let's gooo

[@maggiedaniel7329]

Dang, I was counting on this to be longer so cleaning would be slightly less horrible. I’m not even half done🫠

[@route2070]

Can we get something on any channel about an independent Korea? Seemed like we always get stuff about occupied Korea from any content creator.

[@Ricardo-ps7wv]

2:03 that was a mistake, the soviet union did not exist until after ww1

[@mykolasdobilaitis1565]

Ahh yes the soviet union in the opium wars just as my grandfather told me from experience

[@jezalb2710]

And?

[@theawesomeman9821]

I think the channel should hire a fact checker

[@TangoHotelW01fi]

02:02 Soviet Union?!?! In the 18-hundreds?!?

[@Brotherman94]

Took me a second to realize he was saying Korean and not career.

[@sirjacobthe8]

The Soviet Union wasn’t involved in either Opium war. 2:04

[@azorohhi8711]

Glaring oversight where you said “Soviet Union” instead of Russian Empire in relation to the Opium Wars. The Soviet Union wasn’t established until 1922 and the Opium Wars ended in 1860.

[@demetridowell6563]

2:04 lol

[@grapeshot]

Yep they wanted to be just like the colonizing Europeans.

[@jarrodyuki7081]

disguise yourself as civilian and flee the battlefield.

[@georgenettleton1857]

The soviet Union fought in the Opium Wars? I didn't think it formaly existed till after the October Revolution in 1917?

[@michaelb1761]

That's what they want you to believe.

[@Chancellor-g9b]

Just error he means Russia empire

[@BillHimmel]

Well, the Soviet Union, founded in 1920, certainly didn‘t defeat China in the 19th century!

[@jodiecrosby7819]

Omg an episode that is not about Ukraine. Had to happen sooner or later. Thank you Simon!

[@michaelb1761]

lol

[@mylex817]

I'm sorry, but did he say that the Soviet union was involved in the first Opium war? The Soviet union was created 70 years or so after the first Opium war?!

[@nborr258]

2:04 the who now?

[@noahlogue]

You listened to the comments can't wait for the second sino-japanese war. Edit* Soviet Union?

[@nicholashuestis8830]

The Soviets beat the Ching dynasty?

[@1978Topel]

2 27 am in Minnesota insomniac

[@DGKOP72]

Pretty good job Simon, there isn’t another KZbin channel called history of China that has way more in-depth analysis of this conflict and also has correct pronunciation of all the names and stuff, don’t get me wrong. I love your graphics, but he doesn’t do the best job of covering Asian and wars in the Pacific that don’t involve Western countries

[@bigmatthews666]

Japan should bring back imperialism