Warwick: Day 1 of Jungle Hardstuck Iron 0 LP

[@SDFGH87896]

Advice, hit your Tiamat active more often during clear.

[@Tyde3]

You asked for advice, so here are some tips that i think might help you: .It's good to follow the advice of jungling guides, but those are general recomendations. Each game is unique and a good part of getting better at the game is knowing what to do in each situation.For example you are playing warwick against Hecarim. You got pretty good advantage early, try and abuse it. Red-Blue-Gromp- enemy red would be a good way to try and get first blood. .If you really want to play warwick you are going to need to abuse his early power, bc unless you get hyper-fed, you'll end up not being so useful in lategame. .Your smite has two charges, you don't need to use it off-cooldown. If you get a leash, use the smite in the big krug and then on crab, not on the buffs/other camps. Also try to better your clear, faster clear means faster ganks and base. .Sometimas a good gank is not a kill, but a way to force a summoner spell from an enemy. Yone would have probably flashed either way if you just ran at him, and you would have kept your flash. .Having help in objectives is nice, but ww is pretty strong by himself and seeing people move towards objectives can reveal what you are doing.(When Nauti went to drake they noticed bc he went up) .If a gank is basically free but you haven't made your first clear, go get it. A free first blood is way better than some camps, specially on low elo. .If you see hecarim on the other side of the map, punish him by stealing his camps. Good way of making him fall behind. .Be more mindful of how you use your summoner spells, you seem to use them pretty wastefully .Whenever there is someone on your team who is strong/good group up with them, easy way of winning more fights You actually seem like someone who wants to improve, so I hope these help you a bit. Looking foward to seeing you improve. If you want some more help, i'll gladly give you some tips again. Wish you the best of luck while climbing.

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Hey thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts. I'll really try to focus on improving my clearing

[@Tyde3]

@@SpacetriggaTV No worries man, looking foward to seeing you improve

[@ardiansyahkesuma7464]

Nice vid bro. Good luck on your journey

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Thank you bro! in what elo are you now?

[@ardiansyahkesuma7464]

@@SpacetriggaTV Still iron, bro. I start playing league this month. Zero experience. I was a mobile moba gamer. Your vid so refreshing and relatable. I hope your channel grow consistently

[@Brickswol]

I subscribed to watch your journey.

[@Raynore999]

Plants are your friends. Use them.

[@AtroLine626]

Some things I noticed - Saying you can get away with it because "its iron" is a really bad mentality; if you want to improve much less climb you have to be developing good habits that are actually implementing - Kite your camps; better yet go to practice tool and practice your 1st clear to help you get comfortable doing them in a real game - You should be looking at the minimap more, there were several times in the first game where hecarim showed on vision and you didn't even realize it - You use actives like tiamat more often in your clear (if applicable) - For the first 7 minutes of the first game you didn't place a single ward down; get into the habit of warding bushes or camps to track enemy jungler and get vision for your laners to warn them of potential ganks - Get used to warding river or even quickly invading the enemy pre min 1 to put a ward down at a buff and switching to oracle lens after the 1st base - Vision doesn't seem to be a skill that you have quite down yet but keep practicing and working it; learn to buy pink wards but not too excessively, hit vision plants to see fog of war - Pay attention to your laner's mana and health; just because they have prio does not mean that they are able to rotate to you or help you; a good example was your first gank; apart from the fact that you didn't play it very well if you had noticed malphite had no mana you would've realized the gank would most likely not have worked - Seeing your laner's hp go down could be a sign that they are trading; pan your screen to that lane to see if maybe a gank or a dive is doable - Get more familiar with WW mechanics; Just from the first game you very rarely hold down Q on WW to gap close instead of wasting flash or press W for the movement speed before a gank or cast e before ult to chain cc a target; consider watching a video on Warwick combos and get used to them if you're planning to main WW - Ping! Ping! Ping! You don't need to excessively ping once or twice is fine but communicate your intentions especially if you're planning to gank or do an obj. Don't assume that your laners know what you're doing or are watching the map and will be ready to rotate to help you - There were many times in the first game where you saw enemy hecarim on vision on the other side of the map ganking and you didn't take advantage of counterjungling him in fact at one point you even mention that you should punish his failed gank and death by taking his camps but instead of doing so you decided to just hit red - WW is a very powerful counterjungler and invader so use that to your advantage Honestly you seem pretty new to the game so I don't fault you for lacking knowledge of certain things (like you didn't seem to know to hit the eye of the rift herald) but I do wish you the best of luck in learning and climbing Just be accountable of your own actions and realize that even if your teammates might be making mistakes you are also making plenty of mistakes that you just don't realize take it as a learning experience and best of luck with climbing

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Thanks so much for this feedback it will definitely help. you're right, I should change my mentality. I am indeed always learning and am far from where I want to be. I'm still having some issues controlling my rage xD. But feedback is super helpful and i'm always open to it.

[@nephitrowell3493]

I'm not sure if this is good advice, because I'm like high silver/low gold mmr, but I've played a shit load of Warwick. I'm also only 5min into your video, but my advice is for the early game. When I'm on blue side, i clear red -> blue -> gromp and immediately invade the enemy red buff. I do those camps specifically because ww kills single target camps the fastest, and against most junglers you can hit lvl 3 and get to their buff either before them, or while they are still clearing it. I get first blood in probably 80% or more of my games. On red side, i clear blue -> gromp -> red, invade blue buff. This likely only works in low elo, because the solo lanes rarely react to help their jg, but it is a great way to punish that lack of coordination and start tracking the jg for the rest of the game. I've been doing it every time i jg since like season 9 with pretty high success. Other side notes, i personally love to open on gromp with aa -> Q -> smite, to get it to that 50% threshold for your passive really quickly. I also haven't tried the new lethal tempo yet, but i really like PTA for my playstyle, because of tge frequent invades, and the single target dmg it provides. Not sure how objectively good it is tho tbh. And obviously, those three camp clears arent the only viable options, i recommend playing around with it and testing clear times and paths in the practice tool. And finally, i notice you don't seem to check Tab very often. I suggest getting in the habit of doing that frequently to see enemy lvls, items, and cs

[@AberrantDemon]

As you said, that only works often in low elo. It's much better to prioritize learning how to full clear well. In the rare case where there is a really free gank, then that's great to go for. Clearing like you are recommending is really bad for your tempo, especially if your opponent respects you and gives up a single camp. You'll hit level 6 far later than your normally should which is super important for Warwick. PTA is almost always better than Lethal Tempo. You can make an argument for LT in outlier cases where the enemy team has 4+ melees and you expect there to be many really long fights.

[@SeeMyDolphin]

36:00 you seem to be confused on what happened here. That was Tristana's E which puts a time bomb on her enemies. Tristana has no way to cancel the explosion, so that Jinx was already dead before you even ran under the tower. You could have avoided that death with better champion knowledge.

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Thanks, you're right, I've never played ADC (and tristana for that matter), so this one is definitely on me!

[@xCratuss]

hi, new on the channel. 3:00 "at iron elo i should get away with this" i really don't want to be toxic but thats so the wrong mindset imo if you wanna get out of iron you are not allowed to play like iron.

[@kieranwashere69]

look at the lanes you are near when u are moving to another camp

[@diegochiko]

You should clear top to bot most of the time cuz you will have more difficulty to kill toplaners. Also, you would clear faster by smiting early since you gain attack speed from half health monsters.

[@AberrantDemon]

Clearing Top to Bot is going to be worse than Bot to Top when playing Warwick, most of the time. Of course, the Warwick would ideally decide pathing based on a bunch of different important factors such as CC setup, mobility, matchup volatility, likely future wave states, etc. but I'm not going to recommend that for an Iron player. The reason that Top to Bot is better more often than not on Warwick is because of his W. He loses his movement speed if he enters combat which is very hard to avoid when against bot laners than have high range abilities such as Ashe, Soraka, Lux, etc. Most top laners are melee and have a harder time of stopping Warwick from getting into range.

[@tofilupit8559]

What i noticed so far that you are leveling abilities with your mouse instead of Ctr + Q/W/E/R and you are slow to make decisions. It would also serve you well to move your camera around a bit more by either clicking on the mini map or F2 / F3 etc.

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Wow this is actually something i didnt know or hear about in guides, thanks very much!

[@corbincross319]

is this bait? seems like u have some decent knowledge of the game? whats ur normal rank on ur main acc? seems like u bought this for the climb. not sure if i missed u sayingt that in the video i was multi taksing

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Thanks for the compliment, unfortunately no its not bait. I am genuinely stuck in iron (as i know many other people are). I'm trying to figure out if getting out of iron is entirely up to me and my capabilities, or if there is a little luck involved. I wanted to document everything so you guys could give me feedback on what im doing wrong. Everything i know i've learned from guides and coaches on YT. I'm looking at all the big examples and skillcapped videos, im sure you know which ones i mean. Thanks for watching!

[@corbincross319]

@@SpacetriggaTV it is up to you to a larger portion than most players want to admit. if you want any help i am a WW main. in gold/plat. he is so easy to abuse in low elo. litearlly just run at people and hold ur q down and dodge abilites

[@KoaGuy]

Commenting this because you asked for people to point out problems/ inefficiencies. At 3:00 you say that your jungle clear is bad or not the most ideal but you think its okay because you are in iron. My issue with this is that you want to get out of iron but have a mentality that maintains your position in this elo. If you truly want to escape iron and get to bronze or silver you should try and make your clears much more efficient. Zero hate btw, just want to help out.

[@nicklindhorst9708]

totally agree, im a fellow iron and now bronze, i always clear faster than enemy (using all those tips you've surely seen on videos) and that means that i always get the scuttle crabs first, makes a big difference because it puts enemy off from ganks and drakes, and also maybe tilts them

[@SpacetriggaTV]

Hey Thanks so much for your advice, I agree. Should definitely change that mindset, thanks for your advice! feedback is always welcome

[@KoaGuy]

@SpacetriggaTV I remember learning jungle clearing on KhaZix a long time ago in the practice tool and just working to get my time down and my consistency up. It was a game changer for me, and the micro of clearing has been no problem since. If you get your farm down (gold and exp), you will have control over all your games in this elo for sure.