You are the GOAT for being on top of these videos so quickly after the update, AND providing actual data to back it up.
@Mr.Matt_H2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for your posts, yours are the best!
@jordanjarrell37202 ай бұрын
Wsp9 gang from the beginning
@sxmwilliam2 ай бұрын
best weapon and so fun to use
@rafathchowdury19682 ай бұрын
Too slow of a fire rate it’s not consistent in my opinion
@theplanetpluto18322 ай бұрын
wsp9 never disappoints
@MrZacharyKane2 ай бұрын
Try a tac stance build for it. For some reason the WSP is amazing in tac stance
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
@@rafathchowdury1968 hipfire
@limhimontoya2 ай бұрын
It's definitely a toss up between the WSP and the Superi. I feel like the handling on the WSP is better, but the speed on the Superi is zooming. Thanks for the breakdown Tony!
@Nickved112 ай бұрын
the gods have blessed us tony. 2 vids in 2 days
@drew43172 ай бұрын
Ol' Tony Two Vids
@keithjones8942 ай бұрын
I've been rocking the horus all season, and it's been great! The depth that you go to for these videos is absolutely insane.
@Brickktopp2 ай бұрын
My superi is set up for hipfire only all the attachments that help that , if you pair that with stalker and resolute perks you are literally dancing circles round people you move so fast in a close gun fight . Stalker gives you mad straffe speed but resolute give you movement speed buff when you get shot , a get at least 4/5 more kills per game
@patrickhawkins-The_BiG_HawK2 ай бұрын
Glad your back Big Tony! We missed you bro...
@benjaminbotley2 ай бұрын
I’m still using the Striker and it’s still feeling really good
@fingerboardworkshop62732 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize the open bolt time was so long on the WSP 9, I’m so happy, definitely going to start using it again.. the only fly in the ointment is the insane and addicting Superi movement speed…
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Haave to use the Superi movement build.
@wumpygaming2 ай бұрын
Tony two things, a couple really nice off meta guns that I’ve been using for a while that shine in the mid range, WSP9 with its conversion kit and the KV Broadside with its conversion kit too (they finally fixed the muzzles, which was the last thing needed to make it good) They ithi have smaller bags but they shred in the mid range, I think they both down in like 5 shots and they actually have very similar stats I think. Broadside helps a little longer range it feels like whereas the WSP9 is better for a little bit closer
@Fungi_2_kno2 ай бұрын
That broadside conversion kit is 1 of my 5 goto loadouts in MP, never used in warzone
@wumpygaming2 ай бұрын
@@Fungi_2_kno its really fun to use in warzone
@ScarozaSKIP2 ай бұрын
Get those algo comments rolling viewers! You're the best Tony
@arny_FPS2 ай бұрын
That Superi tacstance build is great, much better than my lachman shroud tacstance version!
@ma1r1k2us2 ай бұрын
It's great for mkb
@RazeDee2 ай бұрын
Try the fjx horus tacstance now that it has 60 rounds if u got conversion kit unlocked. Best tacstance gun imo.
@OutSbrich2 ай бұрын
I’ve been using the wsp stingers and having a blast. They to me are still super OP
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
I expected to see them mentioned not these slow MCW conversions.
@LordJahr2 ай бұрын
You can put 60 round mag on the Horus if you have unlocked the AMP. And the AMP in itself is strong as hell for better range
@MumboJumboZXC2 ай бұрын
It’s such a noob friendly conversion kit it’s insane.
@LordJahr2 ай бұрын
@@MumboJumboZXC that's certainly an opinion
@iamGLOP2 ай бұрын
reduction in fire rate drops gun out of "meta" tier with loss to TTK. It is a good amp. Laser beam for sure but ttk matters. Base horus is better as SMG
@diegoferreiro74322 ай бұрын
@@iamGLOP ttk isn't everything if you are missing some shots. The conversion kit might make some people hit more shots making it kill faster than the regular version. The cor 45 conversion kit has had the fastest ttk by a lot and more range than any smg and nobody uses it because it's too hard.
@iamGLOP2 ай бұрын
@@diegoferreiro7432 what range is smg range on average? The change to miss is not the same. That gun is mid range with that aftermarket. TTK is everything up close
@bighaus2242 ай бұрын
Love the integrated suppressor for the WSP9 build. I've been doing it with the Superi personally as well! Give it a try!
@puffyx49392 ай бұрын
Thank you for including M&K tac stance builds!
@mrniceguyfrodo2 ай бұрын
Tremendous content Tony. Your community appreciates you and loves you.
@Fearlys2 ай бұрын
Sup MNK gang, just dropped an 18-kill win with the tac stance superi build. Thoughts on tacstance wsp-9 build?
@westsideren2 ай бұрын
Whats crazy is ive been following the guy since 2020. Time has flew.
@justinwtolbert2 ай бұрын
Call me crazy but I feel like msp 98 hands top has better tac stance range than the xten tx12. I feel like it hits better in the firing range, could be an in game thing 🤷🏻♂️
@davidpace16352 ай бұрын
Disagree that open bolt delay shouldn’t fully be included. Anytime you are dying in an smg fight that delay matters just as much as ads delay
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
But the sprint to fire makes up for it. Not that deep.
@StrongCurry2 ай бұрын
Im using the XRK Edge BW 4 Handstop (i forget the exact name) Does insane general movement speed
@sunnydcf77752 ай бұрын
16:20 i tested the stalker perk for the superi its different for every gun slightly but superi in particular its +10% ads movement speed ( you move faster strafing left and right when ads) than strafing left to right normaly
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
not worth
@boda132 ай бұрын
Can you test the rival 9 conversion kit since they buffed the fire rate in season 4 I don’t think it’s updated on TGD
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Its worse ttk than no kit, by a lot.
@boda132 ай бұрын
@@BlackJesus8463 are you going off what tgd says now ? Lol
@thatdudesalim2 ай бұрын
Tac stance never kills as fast as ads, try it
@handsomenerd60412 ай бұрын
Was typing a question about tac stance and right when I hit send I heard you say “tac stance”. 😂 You’re awesome! Thank you!
@mj7ven2 ай бұрын
Not sure if you will see this comment but i truly feel like since warzone 2 certain guns even if its clear meta dont have good hit reg & lesser guns have better results for me personally.. my question is Is there any truth to different hit reg results based on internet connection
@No_Mercy_GamingLLC2 ай бұрын
The damage profile on the Horus the whole body is the same is insane
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
Yes that shit ass
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Horus is the way to go inside 10m a good distance for the recoil.
@mattiasklement26772 ай бұрын
There are like 12 different Xten grips for the superi which one are you using for the tac stance. Nosuch this as the "XTEN grip".
@phillythekidtattoos2 ай бұрын
"most of these(guns) dont(compare)" He says it almost immediately. Good man.
@phillythekidtattoos2 ай бұрын
*run the superi46*
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
@@phillythekidtattoos The movement is undeniable.
@nickbrown18432 ай бұрын
Superi w/ stalker more than makes up for the 30ms when you're breaking their aim assist constantly. Lot of fun
@LordJahr2 ай бұрын
To me, the Horus is the best SMG. Love the AMP as well for a sniper support. But that's just my 2 cents on the matter.
@PickNNNPop2 ай бұрын
I am in love with the shroud
@madmike72482 ай бұрын
For the wsp9 Zehmn compensator Hiss barrel Xrk for the under barrel Mag 40/50 Optic of your choice
@mattyshmee77022 ай бұрын
This the one
@Snargle2 ай бұрын
Only thing I change is running the no stock instead of an optic, but I bought the fossil blueprint for clear iron sights. 😅 Definitely a great build though.
@danielbenko30682 ай бұрын
I hope you see this and can take a look but you used the faster strafe underbarrel over the DR-6...but a weird thing with the DR-6 is it has significantly less ADS "weapon bob"...I believe Icemanisac did a video and touched on this. Hope this gets seen.
@JackDaniels3502 ай бұрын
What about the conversion kit on the FJ Horus?
@bbysak2 ай бұрын
nope. drop it.
@aromad55572 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the builds. I can’t wait to try them out.
@Kermit86102 ай бұрын
What about the Striker? Chart wise seems to be much better than wsp9. same damage but longer range
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Not until Superi gets nerfed into the ground.
@Spitsinbums2 ай бұрын
hi tony, one of the barrels on the Horus replicates the recoil bonus from your muzzle. I believe it is the long range barrel. Moreover, you can equip the 60 round now on the horus
@dazwgoaliedaz53332 ай бұрын
Amazing work. Can we have a sniper support meta video please ???
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Its all Superi bruh.
@ravindave012 ай бұрын
Great video as always man. I just wanted to mention a build that also shreds that you may have overlooked: WSP Stinger S-37C DL Breaching Device HISS Short Light Barrel Verdant Hook Box Laser 32 Round Mag Akimbo Rear Grip Granted, it can only be used as hip fire but it has a faster TTK than the other guns mentioned (for chest shots though), and it has great movement stats too.
@BlaqF3mboy2 ай бұрын
Wheres the beloved hollowpoint?
@omerta____2 ай бұрын
Shucks..I wanted to see how the Horus conversion stacked up against the others. So much fun to use and I don’t feel like I’m at a disadvantage when up against other close range options
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
That is false go into multi shoot them legs and a gun shot u die
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Does it move 8.2m/s and have better damage range than every AR?
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
The mp9 Horus is the best ttk idk why but dat kit is so annoying up close i be getting shoot in my legs and dying
@Lovork02 ай бұрын
Love your page Tony, you,re a blessing to us all! Can you please look into incendiary rounds in a video in the future? My friend and I figured out while testing some builds that certain guns do more damage per tick with their burn than others (subverter does more per tick than mtz762), it would be great if you could find an accurate number for at least a few guns, it could be big news if it turns out that TTK on some guns could be 100ms faster because of the burn damage in those long range fights that take more than 1.5sec because of inaccurate shots
@zacharykelsey31562 ай бұрын
Do you or do you plan to have shotguns on your comparison tool?
@simonb94122 ай бұрын
Another banger from true golf data
@bradpacific2 ай бұрын
Is there any viable mw2 guns? When it comes to smg , ar and lmg???
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
M16 full auto
@sprayer972 ай бұрын
you should be using the jak glassless optic on the Fjx. Usually sucks for smgs but on this one it enhances the weapon by a lot
@fadams322 ай бұрын
try it without the mag and no stock, it’s actually manageable and it’s insane how fast you are. Reloads a lot faster so the 10 less rounds doesn’t hurt you .
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
The superi u will get out gunned easily I lost to the MCw rarely the Horus more than I like wsp I got shredded I figured they didn’t need it like they said they did
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Its loses legshots as much as it wins headshots but the movement speed is why its meta.
@Dent1852 ай бұрын
Please do sniper support video!
@austinprevette4742 ай бұрын
Bp50 conversion and wsp9 is my fav
@Marcosfari4s2 ай бұрын
wsp stinger is dominating brasilian lobbyes
@DrTopLiftDPT2 ай бұрын
Doesn’t show the wsp akimbo stingers or the new shotgun
@elaborar49342 ай бұрын
How can people watch a TGD video and NOT BE SUBSCRIBED?!?!?!?
@andrewsmith47052 ай бұрын
Surprised to not see Stingers featured. They are considered OP in brazil/south america where they dominate the meta together with Superi
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
They are not good they broken that’s a bot gun
@andrewsmith47052 ай бұрын
@@divin3-_-shotzz621 Bot gun? lol, they are used by some of the best players in the world in competitive matches bro
@Fungi_2_kno2 ай бұрын
@@divin3-_-shotzz621ur a bot player
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
@@Fungi_2_kno 4kd bot gonna get mad.
@Fungi_2_kno2 ай бұрын
@@BlackJesus8463 huh? Who tf are u and where tf u come from?? U his mommy tryin 2 defend him? If you're a 4 k/d player I'm your daddy. Oh wait, u might be right....
@alexwhite95402 ай бұрын
Superi nd the micro holotherm I've never got more hackusations
@g.davidmuldowney77542 ай бұрын
Love your work, TGD!
@GI-Joe2 ай бұрын
thanks for all the hard work bro love the vid as always
@MRDOODBEAMS2 ай бұрын
Metaphor 's tac stance Superi is so 🔥
@jed62672 ай бұрын
Trust Tonies meta video more than anyone elses
@myleskublin38422 ай бұрын
Can’t build this FJX without the conversion kit - barrel and handstop is locked without that bruv
@HavokVI2 ай бұрын
pls look into superi hit reg issue. sometimes bullets go through the target, evident in gun range too
@offtheroadoli51892 ай бұрын
250k subs incoming 👍🏻
@trelltootrill74132 ай бұрын
Off topic not on some weird stuff but you look like you lost some weight g and you look good bro in the most straight way possible 👍🏾
@Naos12 ай бұрын
We are so back
@rock-steady-yeti2 ай бұрын
Tony was the Shroud bugged when it was first put on TGD with the kit, I ran it when it dropped and the TTK was not 600, or did the buff it? Great video!!
@flanpr372 ай бұрын
What’s your thoughts on the FJX Conversion Kit? Think it’s viable or stand a chance in the meta?
@henry06x2 ай бұрын
The Horus tac stance is under rated
@DickTangoTV2 ай бұрын
What's your build? I couldn't get it to feel good compared to the Superi.
@whatif45022 ай бұрын
thanks tony
@bubrub232 ай бұрын
Metaphors tac stance spas build is so good
@agonyplaysCODM2 ай бұрын
Nice video bro, may I ask if the close range meta guns in PC/Console is also the same on Mobile? Yeah, I play WZM despite the graphics is worst
@DerekSmithMO2 ай бұрын
@truegamedata Why not the Scratch-L suppressor since it only adds +1ms ADS but improves firing aim stability?
@beidoku2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@thrax_8432 ай бұрын
Why no conversion kit o nthe Horus, only way it feels like it causes any damGe
@Jealod242 ай бұрын
Maybe build some guns for mouse… some tac stance builds would be great. Considering tac stance is the only way a key and mouse player should use their short range weapons to help deal with the bullshit aim assist
@tonytime9162 ай бұрын
I still like running the MCW conversion kit
@BlackJesus84632 ай бұрын
Yeah well you're not running fast. Probably just got chased down by a Superi.
@tonytime9162 ай бұрын
@@BlackJesus8463 na I shot him in the face with my better TTK gun
Horus is great with an AR but Superi is good on its own and sniper support.
@dbro28672 ай бұрын
I been replacing my dr6 for the xrk alot
@sarcasticMIKEchild2 ай бұрын
My mcw is almost the same except i use the nydar site instead of the laser cause i hate the irons on it, and i use the jack cutthroat instead of the dr6 for its ads movement speed. So i can somewhat keep up with the superai
@ChrisSmith-bt1cv2 ай бұрын
Shame the Shroud is so bad , the conversion kit brought hope. It was a PAIN to unlock when it was originally released only seamed viable in MP. I've been running your S3.5 MCW with good luck on wz small map. Thanks for the new info!
@Fungi_2_kno2 ай бұрын
Pain to unlock? If I remember correctly it was 25 suppressed kills. 1/2 of a mp game. Whatchu talkin bout Willis?
@ChrisSmith-bt1cv2 ай бұрын
@@Fungi_2_kno that was for the JAK conversion kit I'm talking about unlocking the shroud a few(?) season ago
@Fungi_2_kno2 ай бұрын
@@ChrisSmith-bt1cv u didnt play mw2??
@ChrisSmith-bt1cv2 ай бұрын
@@Fungi_2_kno oh shit, you're right, I guess it's been longer than I thought! 🤦
@alurielll52412 ай бұрын
No mention of conversion kit on fjx horus?
@sgreguz2 ай бұрын
Striker with a combination ttk real for a close range fight (so with the 50% upper body 10%head 5%neck, 20%lower body and the remaining for arms and legs, for me it's accurate) it's the weapon, with the superi 46, that counting also the accuracy of the weapon in mid range gunfight, is the best of all, how it is possible that isn't at least mentioned?
@BlaqF3mboy2 ай бұрын
I 100% agree this is absolutely one of the best smgs.
@conorbyrnepip2 ай бұрын
What about the conversion kit of bp50
@dbro28672 ай бұрын
So I haven't watched all the way yet but you have these built a certain way to get these you should the builds?
@jedidiah40042 ай бұрын
Odd to not even mention the Reclaimer, 2 tap shotty in close range is always going to be meta. WSP-9 RPM becomes extremely punishing if you miss even 1-shot. ADS time regardless of weapon becomes far less important than sprint-to-fire within 10m as you need to hipfire or jitter aim to stay on target anyway.
@willie52302 ай бұрын
Someone needs to do a study in the loot ground blue wasp-9 it's way abnormal. I literally try to build it the same or using meta builds but no come close to that loot ground wsp9... also we need the Scar to return
@Aggiblr2 ай бұрын
Wait what about the fjx horus conversion kit?
@Thundercat20242 ай бұрын
Why leave out the bp50 smg 😫
@jdwhitty60352 ай бұрын
kar n superi FTW
@gerardomonteslara482 ай бұрын
¡Muchas gracias por el video!
@mindyourbuisness81042 ай бұрын
I think the mcw is best for most people. The handling is worse but if you aren't a movement demon the extra range is much more worth it. I'm glad everyone just copies streamers so the mcw hasn't got nerfed
@nayefharb2 ай бұрын
Right on time
@Aaron-mn2ro2 ай бұрын
why horus kit comparison?
@Kamitsu22 ай бұрын
Going to try this tac stance build as a mkb player because goddamn, I'm feeling totally outmatched by the 100% accuracy of controller in close range fights. I can see the forgiveness of tac stance still not being enough, though
@Nobody.199602 ай бұрын
Change to controller best decision ever in 2 months I surpassed my top kd I had with kbm and broke my personal record multiple times. f From 20 kill twice IN 5 years to 22 25 26 and 35 in a month...
@NoleYakin2 ай бұрын
Kbm is on average 5-10% more accurate, he had all the data on his last video
@Binford25002 ай бұрын
At long range on a static target and no AA. Controller shits on M&K close range, which is a majority of the fights.
@sabresandiego2 ай бұрын
You’re not beating aim assist at medium or close range engagements without cover using a mouse consistently. You can’t out aim AI software Aimbot except very occasionally. sadly this game gives controller players legal cheats.
@ApolloPOV2 ай бұрын
i play mnk & i out gun roller players all day and night at any range lol aim assist is broken yes but it still can be beaten
@chucktime41432 ай бұрын
Cor45 should be on here along with the stingers j/s
@xricTV2 ай бұрын
The bots already got to ur comment section 😭😭
@seemsright98222 ай бұрын
Ai papi
@divin3-_-shotzz6212 ай бұрын
The superi is my go to cuz it’s the only gun that could be in og wz1