Was Dhul Qarnain the same person as Alexander the Great?

Was Dhul Qarnain the same person as Alexander the Great? Dr. Yasir Qhadi answers Jonathan Mclatchie
Special thanks to bro Yahya Snow who made the video
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Jonathan Mclatchie is a PhD student in cell biology. He is a proponent of the scientific theory of intelligent design (ID), about which he has written extensively on Evolution News & Views and Uncommon Descent, in addition to being involved with the Centre for Intelligent Design UK. He holds an honors degree in Forensic Biology, a Masters (M.Res) degree in Evolutionary Biology, and a second Master's degree in medical and molecular bioscience.
He is also a contributor to various apologetics websites, including CrossExamined.org, the Christian Apologetics Alliance, Apologetics UK, AllAboutGod.com, and GotQuestions.org.
He has also been published in the Fall 2014 issue of Salvo Magazine.

[@louiebruck9033]

Lol alexander the great had two horns dummy his currency had his picture on it just like our currency has presidents

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

You're an idiot

[@ruchikaali8752]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 you ar idiot not he

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@ruchikaali8752 Alexander the great had horns? Are you smoking crack

[@ashishmantri3684]

@@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200 but he is represented like that its a symbol

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

@@ashishmantri3684 He didnt say it's a symbol you mong he said he has 2 horns

[@x-sag3272]

Although Aristotle was Alexander's teacher, history says that he didn't follow too much of his teachings in fact he did the opposite. But Allah knows best

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

Aristotle told him to treat Non Greeks like Wild Animals, but Alexander the Great did the exact opposite...you are Right!

[@alexandros8361]

Aristotle was secretly an enemy to Alexander. He boiled the water off the thallium, which he sent to murder Alexander. Thallium looks like cold colourless water. Its even in the Alexander Romances. Im told the word Aristocrat comes from Aristotle. May be true.

[@alexandros8361]

Aristotle was secretly an enemy to Alexander. He boiled the water off the thallium, which he sent to murder Alexander. Thallium looks like cold colourless water. Its even in the Alexander Romances. Im told the word Aristocrat comes from Aristotle. May be true.

[@QaribArcadia]

And No Aristotle believed in god . He called god the "prime mover" the thing that maintains everything and everything's motion .

[@commenter2950]

“Alexander's association with two horns and with the building of the gate against Gog and Magog occurs much earlier than the Qur’an, and persists in the beliefs of all three of these religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.” [Rebecca Edwards in an address to the American Philological Association, 133rd Annual Meeting Program (Philadelphia, January 5, 2002)].

[@muzakkeeninfasahamed9301]

Compired to alexander and cyrus Cyrus the great first king of the persian empire has some similarities with Quranic Dulqarnain. Because cyrus was the king who release the banu Israels who believed one God from Babylonian pagan king. Cyrus also said to be a believer of one God But after the mecedonian attack on persian empire by Alexander the great persian monotheistic religion mixed with pagan religions of Alexander's army. However major part of the history of Dulqarnain of the Quran reassemble with Cyrus the great first Persian empire king As of the historical research so far, cyrus the great was Said to be the first emperor of this world established his region Africa to Asian and Europe Allah knows the best

[@SeeMahbub]

What is the proof of Alexander being a pagan? Christians says Jesus was son of God. Should we say he was not Muslim?

[@azrael8598]

Alexander gave up his religion and all ties to the west especially GREEK , he was full eastern and took up wives who taught him the language and religion he was obsessed and even changed his name they called him ISkander but he wanted to be seen as a GOd i believe they called him DHul Qarnain the west only remember him before Gaugamela

[@AK006]

@Kane B give me a contradistion in the quran, just one

[@explodinggaming1893]

@Kane Abel nah they were the same like adam the prophet to jesus to muhammad peace be upon them.they were nice people they tried spreading saying there is only one god but they always get killed or get hated.at least not like the bible where one of the verse just says noah curse his son for telling the children that he is drunk or that holy trinity like they believe in father or jesus or holy spirit.are they the same entity if god doesnt need to be born by marry why is he in the form of jesus and where one part says jesus curses a tree for not producing food when he could use his godly powers to make it bear fruit so everyone can eat but he curses it instead.

[@nickvanr.8584]

@@azrael8598 he was a great king who gave his live for humanity,

[@nickvanr.8584]

When Alexander went to Egypt, the Egyptian priests welcomed him as a God, "the son of God, "

[@vildanetemi6186]

Where do you know he is pagan some literature say he destroy temple with statue in Athens and in all greece also he has two horns in had in currency. Read ALexander romance

[@vildanetemi6186]

@@bereal2756 and where do you know is Cyrys is DHulqarnian, from some aspect Alexander rule east and west he connquear all civilisation ans he also rename city in Egypt Alexandria, he was model for many generals, who told you he was idiolatiry i write before read Alexander Romance some truth are hidden there, and a last only ALLAH Almighty knows who is real DHulqarnian.

[@vildanetemi6186]

@@bereal2756 learn history he died in Battle, from some Islamic scholars they say Alexander is closes to be Dhulqarnien but ALLAH knows better.

[@vildanetemi6186]

@@bereal2756 Acording to Quran he is Rightes King and servent of ALLAH and God knows best.

[@jetsetjourneysofficial]

thanks for being honest most Muslims seem to say he is Alexander the Great despite evidence to the contrary

[@yournightmare5874]

Spot on my dear brother

[@budekins542]

Nightmare, Dhul cannot be Cyrus as some Muslims claim because Cyrus did not build a wall to stop "Gog and Magog". Cyrus did not go to a place where he saw the sun setting.

[@luqqy347]

bud ekins his empire stretched to the caucuses region, where people theorise ya’juj and ma’juj to have been.

[@thephilosophermma8449]

Aristotle believed in God whom he referred to as the Unmoved mover or unactualized actualizer which is very similar to the Monotheistic/Islamic concept of God, Infact the kalam and Falsafa traditions within Islamic use arguments primarily given by Aristotle to prove the existence of God . Aristotle and his grandteacher and teacher Socrates and Plato respectively rejected the concept of pagan gods . Atmost these pagan gods were not seen as The God like Allah or the Creator, there were closer to some supernatural creatures such as Angels , and even Aristotle never identified his concept of unactualized actualizer or unmoved mover to these pagan gods. And Iskandar Alaihissalaam( Alexander the Great) followed his teacher in this regard and believed in a concept closer to that of Monotheistic God, Iskandar Alaihissalaam was a seeker of knowledge , conquered wast lands as the Quran states and he was Just ruler very similar to The character of Dhul Qarnayn Alaihissalaam.

[@enigma7719]

All early Muslim historians and scholars (Ibn Hisham, Ibn Ishaq, Al-Tabari etc) agreed that Dhul Qarnayn was the Greek Alexander the Great. What are you on about LMAO

[@samaniabdelsalam5293]

Ok but that’s early Muslim historians they wouldn’t have had as much knowledge on Alexander the Great as we do now and not only that look at what’s the Quran and Hadith says. Dhul qarnayn was described as a pious man who only followed Allah, however Alexander the Great claimed decent from Ancient Greek gods which is shirk he was an adulter and committed many other major sins they may be similar but they can’t be the same man.

[@enigma7719]

@@samaniabdelsalam5293 WRONG. There’s historical evidence Alexander the Great pbuh was a monotheist, in Greek, Jewish, and Christian sources, which agree with the Islamic stance. The early historians of Islam were also those who preserved the Sira (part of the Sunnah) of the Prophet pbuh. They also preserved the Maghazi.

[@malikialgeriankabyleswag4200]

He sounds more like Cyrus the Great of Persia rather than Alexander

[@darktigerx]

more likely its cyrus because he ruled from east to west, saved the jews and he was monotheist(astrozorastrian,worshiping azura mazda:word for 1god) and close to time of ibraheem , the two horns could be refering to the east and west. paganism from at time of Xerxes until islam came .

[@patrickngunjiri5340]

@@darktigerx it's dhul was a pius Muslim meaning he worshipped Allah and followed Islam.... but according to history Cyrus wasn't a worshipper of Allah or even yahweh the true God...nor was Zoroastrianism islam or Jewish.... infact they used icons and idols to worship ahura Mazda

[@AshrafAnam]

@@patrickngunjiri5340 Allah = God in Arabic. It's not a name. Nowhere in the Quran or the Hadiths is Yahweh the name of God. God has no personal name. He has many attributes and people call him by many of these attributive names. "Yahweh" ("He is") was just one way God was called among the Children of Israel, that's it. "Ahura Mazda" ("Wise Lord") may be the name the Persians used [And FIY, Zoroastrians DO NOT use idols or icons to worship Ahura Mazda]. "Zeus" in Greek literally means "God" as it was originally the Ionian pronunciation of _Dios_ . _Iupiter_ (Jupiter) of the Romans comes from * _djous patēr_ ("Heavenly father"). According to Islamic worldview, polytheism, henotheism and idolatry evolved from the concept of _shirk_ ( _shituf_ in Judaism) , which is the "association of partners to God in worship" meaning imagining deities and worshiping them in addition to God. Most pagan pantheons evolved from this and idols emerged when the worshipers gave form to their imaginations in the shape of physical cult images. If you have ever read the Quran, you'd know that in the Quranic worldview, every nation, except off course the total unbelievers (such as atheists) among them, worships God. Prophets and apostles are sent to them as guide and warners when they are either associating partners with Him in worship or prioritizing the material worldly life over Him (disobeying His commandments, indulging in sins, doing injustice, etc). The Christian belief in trinity is criticized in the Quran because it is them associating the Christ (as well as the Holy Spirit) as partner to God in worship. Jews also criticize Christians for the same thing but they are lot harsher, considering them straight up idolators while the Quran is more lenient and asks them to stop immediately and correct themselves.

[@patrickngunjiri5340]

@@AshrafAnam in Hebrew the equivalent for God is elohim even those who worshipped false gods the bible calls them elohim since elohim means God or gods.....Yahweh is God's personal name not an attribute ( psalms 83:18, exodus 6:3) God could be anything or anybody according to one's belief...but the true God identified himself as yahweh and that was his name....and ofcourse every name has a meaning that doesn't mean it's ceases to be a name...every Hebrew name had a meaning that does not mean it was an attribute of a person but rather the name and identification of a person.... God is a title not a name even to some people satan is God to them...the prophets worshipped yahweh and that's Yahweh is used around 7000 times in Hebrew scriptures (old testament)

[@AshrafAnam]

@@patrickngunjiri5340 No. God doesn't have any personal name. He is beyond names. And if God has a name, why should it be in Hebrew? Why not in Sumerian, the language of the first civilization? The name "Yahweh" was peculiar to the Israelites. No other nation before or after ever used it. Yes, Elohim can mean both God (considering it as the plural of excellence) or gods (considering it as the numerical plural). Unlike Syriac/Aramaic (ܐܠܗܐ) _ʼĔlāhā_ /_Alâhâ_ (which is the emphatic form of _elāh_ "diety, god") or Arabic (الله) _Allāh_ (which is the definite form of _ilāh_ "diety, god"), Hebrew doesn't have an emphatic or definite form of "eloh" (deity, god) to use to refer to God, thus the plural "elohim" was employed.

[@QaribArcadia]

Well if it wasn't Alexander then who was he 😏And you keep telling us not to get deep and even saying it's a "legend" so does that mean it's historically inaccurate?

[@yanwillempasterkamp8454]

Cornelius = Germanicus (Zacharias Barachias)

[@MehediHasan-dv1nl]

I think it’s “Cyrus the great”

[@QaribArcadia]

@@MehediHasan-dv1nl Hmm don't think so because Alexander was much more influential than him, and he was the biggest conquerer before Islam so it's more likely that it's Alexander. Plus dhul qaryan means "2 horned man" and Alexander always used an iconic 2 horned helm(and there were coins of Alexander with the helmet even in Arabia).

[@soohamdy8538]

@@QaribArcadia The empire of Cyrus and Alexander is somewhat the same area, but Alexander was more famous than Cyrus because it was fast ... But it would be foolish to say that Dhul-Qarnayn was Alexander because he wore a helmet with two horns on his head, and we forget the most important difference between them that Alexander was an idolater. And Dhul-Qarnayn was a monotheist....but historically Cyrus was a monotheist, and this is the most important link between Dhul-Qarnayn and Cyrus

[@soohamdy8538]

Furthure more if alexandre is the greatest conqurer recorded in history before islam... Why We suppose that Dhul-Qarnayn history recorded him?!! I think Dhul-Qarnayn was before Alexander

[@marlunox2811]

Thomas Alexander, in his KZbin video, "The Story of Dhul Qarnayn - 10 Minute Quran Study: Episode 14, " gives his take on the origin of Dhul Qarnayn. Pretty interesting.

[@Notreallyhereanymore]

Oh that clown

[@SeeMahbub]

Alexander the Great is still known as Iskandar and Sikandar in Iran, Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India. And it has a positive vibe and people named their boys. This is a proof that all the people accepted Alexander’s invasion and like him.

[@scipioafricanus1346]

👍

[@SeeMahbub]

@Kuffar punisher Your can change your name.

[@QaribArcadia]

@@scipioafricanus1346 You were a great general too

[@scipioafricanus1346]

@@QaribArcadia Thank you Sir🙏

[@sojernon8689]

The Two Horned one of the Quran is based on the legendary Alexander and not the historical Alexander. Tommaso Tesei has convincingly demonstrated that it’s based on the 6th century Syriac version of the Alexander Romance where it introduced the innovation of the gate holding back gog and Magog is bronze

[@danijaldblr3388]

Aristoteles is a interestic figure we cant exactly say that he was a pagan because his philosophical writings did have had an impact on christians and even muslim scholars like ibn sina

[@jalalkphilosophy]

Extremely ridiculous to even think Alexander can ever come close to Dhul Qarnayn. We are talking about Solomon level of faith and power, Alexander can't even reach his greatness in anyways

[@anonymousanonymous2319]

Lol I read that sarcasm 😂😂

[@princeek6252]

I know that all didn’t bother to mention who he is but It could’ve been Alexander the Greta because Alexander was in Palestine Egypt Iraq Syria Iran Pakistan Afghanistan so mostly Arabs he could’ve believed in only one god in those years

[@m.m5436]

PrinceEK he was from Greece tho, dhul qurnain is believed to be from Yemen, and was DEFINITELY Arab

[@nickvanr.8584]

It is Alexander the Great.

[@SeeMahbub]

@Why Quran never says he is Arab. Stick on what Quran says.

[@Akhii4]

islam wasn’t around during Alexander the Great tho

[@ashishmantri3684]

@@m.m5436 he is believed to be is avery presumptive just because someone is believed to be from somewhere doesnt mean he is from there right ? Then earrh was believed to be flat is it flat it is spherical right? Evidence is wats thats important

[@iskanderammon6405]

Alexander the Great cannot escape history or religion...Horizon Crusher The Lion's Pride...or The Four Headed Leapard with Wings

[@scipioafricanus1346]

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[@PoulJulle-wb9iu]

Besides the 11 similar features

[@xondeez757]

dhul qarnain is described as having 2 horns as his helmet. alexander the great did not wear anything like that. dhul qarnain must be an ancient king before abraham and the likes existing because he was described as a believer but not a jew so he must be even older than all the jewish prophets.

[@user-nn7im9ev7r]

@@Cool-ge2db This is False in Many Aspects lmao. Those Legends are technically altered after not to mention Alexander never went West

[@esrefyalnklcl6500]

Simply put the answer here, the Oghuz Turks were the army of Dhul-Qarnain, who himself was also considered as being the legendary commander of the Turks themselves, Oghuz Kagan. The lienage of the Oghuz Turks date back to Japhets, the son of the Prophet Noah. The archaic sources of the pre-Islamic Turkish history as well as medieval and Ottoman chronicles indicate that Oghuz Khan was the person who was mentioned in the Holy Quran as the sublime commander, Dhul-Qarnain. Gökturk monuments tell about Oghuz Kagan's (he was mentioned as Bilge Kagan on the inscriptions , as the wise ruler) voyages to east and west as well as from north to south, a narration that absolutely shows similarities with the Surah al-Qahf (18) in Quran, where the story of Dhul-Qarnain was given at the end of the chapter. See also historiographies about Oghuz Kagan' identification with Dhul-Qarnain a.s. in Mahmud of Kasghari, Divan-ı Lügati't-Türk, or in Rashiduddin Fazlullah‐ı Hamadani's Camiu't Tevarih. These are several most authentic sources about Oghuz Khan's legendary personality in the early ages. Ottoman chronicles, e.g. Sheik ul-Islam Vani Mehmed Efendi and some other sources also interpretate Dhul-Qarnain's historical personality as Oghuz Kagan. Some contemporary authors also admit the fact and wrote about Oghuz Khan's histories. (e.g. Oghuz Khan the Great: The Might King Who Governed Asia, Europe and Africa) So to speak, Oghuz Turks were the soldiers of Dhul-Qarnain, who conquered the whole world and locked Gog and Magog in between two mountains. That's why, since the age of Oghuz Khan, the traditional crafthood of Turks was considered as iron-forging and blacksmithing, which helped the proto-Turks to have melted iron mountains in order to dispose from the Chinese captivity, according to well-known Turkish epos or saga, Ergenekon. In brief, Dhul-Qarnain a.s. was not a homosexual Alexander the Great or the heretic Persian king Cyrus the Great, but Oghuz Kagan himself, who was also considered as the Prophet sent to the Turks in centuries-old oral history and popular culture narratives, especially in the Asian steppes. Greetings to all fellow Muslim people around the world from Turkey, a country which is the direct descendant of the Oghuz Turks, together with Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan...

[@Yoffezz]

I think that alexander and dhul qurnayn are the same person.Just like jesus (pbuh) , both islam and christians believed in him , but as muslims we belive that he was misrepresented by christianity.

[@commenter2950]

Peace be upon Alexander Dhul Qarnayn, the monotheist conqueror chosen by Allah. “After the death of Darius, Alexander [the Great] annexed the empire of Darius to his own kingdom, and ruled Iraq, Asia Minor, al-Rum, Syria, and Egypt. Following the death of Darius, he reviewed his army; it is said that he found the army to consist of 1,400,000 men; of these 800,000 were of his own force, and 600,000 were from the (old) force of Darius. It is reported that on the day he ascended the throne (as king of Persia) he said, "ALLAH granted us triumph over Darius and granted us the opposite of Darius's threats.” Alexander destroyed the cities, fortresses, and fire temples of the Persians. He slew their priests, and he burned their books and the archives of Darius. Appointing some of his aides as governors over the empire of Darius, he marched on toward India where he slew its king and conquered its capital.” [Al-Tabari’s Tarikh, The Account of Darius [Dara] the Elder and His Son Darius the Younger. How He Perished, and the Account of Alexander (Dhu-l-Qarnayn), p. 94].

[@einerftonog]

Alexander the Great worship Pantheon Gods

[@QaribArcadia]

Oh so even Al tabari believed him as dhul qarnayen

[@hoopoe3093]

Zul Qarnain means the "Two Horned." The Jews asked this question to Muhammad to test his knowledge about the past. Cyrus the Great is most likely to fit this description. He was the only Gentile mentioned in the Bible 30 times and in the Book of Daniel. He liberated them from captivity. Cyrus was a just and monotheist King described as the two horned.

[@marbet2395]

hoopoe bird Cyrus, the great king loved by God, was mentioned in Isaia 45 and 48 and in Esdra 1 abkve all. He was never mentioned in the book of Daniel. The two horned ram of the book of Daniel is not Cyrus, but the Medo-Persian kingdom ( the small horn for the Medo kings the big one for the Persian kings). The goat is the kingdom of Greeks, the big horn is the first king, that means Alexander. The great king of the book of Daniel is a Greek king, Alexander, as usually thought. The two-horned was said for the horns of Amun used by Alexander. Cyrus died in battle against the Scythes. How could he be the builder of the wall against Gog and Magog if he died fighting against them?!

[@urekmazino2485]

@Mujahid so who is Alexander the great and this person you refer to as Dhul Qarnayn

[@meusisto]

Thomas Alexander, in his KZbin video, "The Story of Dhul Qarnayn - 10 Minute Quran Study: Episode 14, " gives his take on the original of Dhul Qarnayn. Pretty interesting.

[@bjonphillips1135]

Mohammed tells the story incorrect without important detail. Lmao

[@Notreallyhereanymore]

@@bjonphillips1135like?

[@GamerZz-yu7lw]

This has nothing to do with Alexander the great... Read history, and not religion classes

[@QaribArcadia]

Yes and this character dhu Al qarnayn must be Alexander but the Quran says he was A Muslim but he wasn't

[@user-fn8wn3yo3j]

Alexander the Great fit for Quren dhulkernine not Cyrus the Great 🤔

[@annabolika2772]

there are a lot of similarities habibi. dont lie pls

[@alchemistlogic9421]

@Anna Bolika well he admitted @ 1:20 "the more detail we go into these story's the more we put ourselves into trouble"

[@m.m5436]

Alexander the Great was not muslim, do you even know what he preached? And even so, he was from Greece and dhul qurnain is Arab, it is believe he was from Yemen... I’m not a 100% sure so if u think I’m wrong feel free to TRY to find the similarities... if there r any

[@zazzyboy8592]

Why lmao from Yemen gtfo

[@razalim7293]

@@m.m5436 Alexander is from Macedonia. Why can't Zulqurnain not an Arab, not from middle east? Hidayah is for all people and for all time, not specific to certain people and to certain time only. There is a book that discuss on this issue on whether Alexander is Zulqurnain or not, you can check it on internet.

[@QaribArcadia]

@@razalim7293 tell me the name of this book please

[@enigma7719]

WRONG. There’s historical evidence Alexander the Great pbuh was a monotheist, in Greek, Jewish, and Christian sources, which agree with the Islamic stance. The early historians of Islam were also those who preserved the Sira (part of the Sunnah) of the Prophet pbuh. They also preserved the Maghazi.

[@mooael3796]

Alexander the Great literally believed he was the Son of Zeus, his mother said he had descended from Greek gods and he regularly attended oracles, which we were sites were woman would talk to the gods and give the person inquiring information on how the future shall be. He was very much not a monotheist. Islam is completely wrong here.

[@imanikalongolela8089]

alexander is the same dhulkarnain of the Quran but Muslims try to play some swerve-there-game in order to avoid the tale that Quran says something wrong to say he was a prophet of allah secondly to swerve the issue of setting place of the sun so until they convert to other religions its when they admit it.

[@Notreallyhereanymore]

No lol

[@cyberyousef7519]

Look at this clown First the Quran never said he was alexander the great 😂 Second the quran never said that the sun sets in a muddy water, it simply described the prospective of prophet muhammad

[@adzzzzzz1947]

Hahaha what a weak response…. Let’s ignore the evidence. Shame on you and your ignorance

[@anonymousanonymous2319]

Not a shred? Minus basically every other parallel eg two horns, Gog and Magog, green monster, warrior, going to the end of the earth and Yusuf Ali also says that Dhul Qarnyn refers to Alexander the Great

[@misbahalam3725]

can anyone tell me name of this shykh??

[@omarelkhaldy879]

his name is Yasir Qhadi

[@andrewisjesus]

It's really funny to try to separate Aristotle from Islam when Aristotle was a major figure in Islamic thought. You know that Islam conquered the Eastern Roman empire and has the exact same Graco Roman foundation and that's why it would say that this two horned guy was Alexander the Great because Alexander the Great was the two horned guy. The other two horned guys Moses and that's not who the Quran is talking about I mean just like the way that the Quran says that Jesus and the apostles were devout muslims, don't you understand that like those people weren't calling themselves that. It doesn't matter both things could be true

[@marbet2395]

It is not a legend. Is an hadit of al Tabari! If Mohammed was interrogated about someone that lived in the past, as DhulQarnain was for Mohammed, and the Islam started with Mohammed, how can DhulQarnain be an Islamic king, if there was no Islam before Mohammed?! It is illogical! Usually many think that the Islamic legend of DhulQarnain was based on the Hebrew and Christian version of the Alexander's Romance. The one known also by the prophet. But it is only one of the theories.

[@tismoh8416]

Islam was there from day 1 Earth was created by Allah s.w.t

[@virtualworld2231]

mohamed didn't bring islam, islam was there since Adam,even jesus was muslim

[@PoulJulle-wb9iu]

@@virtualworld2231 lol, get real children of god

[@alanpece1911]

Muhammad (peace be upon Him) was the last prophet of Islam. While Islam was present from the time of Adam the first prophet of humans and jinn. First get some knowledge about Islam then comment. Islam is not a new religion , it is the only true religion since the beginning of time

[@neilgaming2127]

@Kane B bro u need to chill down. To much research ur brain being washed

[@yanwillempasterkamp8454]

Cornelius = Germanicus

[@thomasrabaut2461]

then the question is who was dhul quarnain

[@seiddzekovic2234]

We don't know for sure,because Islamic sources doesn't mention that,but maybe he was Cyrus The Great,Dhul-Qarnain means one with two honrns,descreption of Cyrus The Great fits perfectly in it(check this out:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great#/media/File:Illustrerad_Verldshistoria_band_I_Ill_058.jpg) Plus he was mentioned in the Bible Isaiah 45,nearly the same story,plus Jews were those who asked Prophet PBUH about Dhu-Qarnain,he was pretty involved in Jewish history,so it's possible...

[@siddave549]

He is ALexander only...Dhul Qarnayan is just mythical stories made up about the exploits of Alexander. They have nothing do with history...and simply silly ridiculous fables. Muslims are lying when they claims Cyrus is Dhul Qarnayan coz Cyrus was never known as one and even Iranians who are also Muslims themselves have never referred to CYrus as Dhul Qarnayan. There is a not even a single historical text or body of work where it is mentioned that Cyrus went to a place where he saw sun setting in a muddy pool and he built a wall to stop Gog and Magog. It is a ridiculous story.

[@neilgaming2127]

@@siddave549 ridiculous? When gog and magog appear in your very own eyes u believe

[@undadaknee]

@@siddave549 ridiculous just like your religion

[@siddave549]

@@neilgaming2127 They will not appear coz they dont exist lol hahaha. they are imaginary.

[@mustfaaboassd]

There is no point for making him alexander

[@marbet2395]

mustfa assad I'm a wrong or there is an hadit of al-Tabari? I'm not Muslim so I can be wrong, but I read a lot and I'm interested in it

[@erionvojabuilding1599]

Alexander the great was Illyrian , nd Illyrians are the Albanian people nowadays that the majority is Muslim

[@damongeo840]

Alexander the Great is of Slavic origin; he is not Albanian or Greek. The greatest proof for that is that Greece agreed that FYROM must be called North Macedonia.

[@user-ce6vj9fc6s]

xa xa xa malakeies alvanikes

[@urekmazino2485]

@@damongeo840 what exactly is FYROM and what do you mean by this claim and chain of evidence where did you get this info and such detail from exactly what was your source as a point to backup what your saying if it is true and historically accurate idk

[@scipioafricanus1346]

iskander,sikander,Dul Karnein!!!

[@ashishmantri3684]

Alexander is just too great to escape the sources of any book of those times when he invaded such was his might the simlarities in how he is represented in quran and how he is represented in greece is just too outstanding

[@Rotisiv]

So what if he’s mentioned in the Quran? That doesn’t mean that it copied greek sources especially considering the fact that prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate.

[@Bilal-ys6df]

@@Rotisiv He is not mentioned though.

[@urekmazino2485]

@@Rotisiv do you think he was a muslim though irrespective of whether he is in the holy books or not? Do you believe he was a monotheist in his era and or time? Do you think he believed in the one true God? The Almighty? Or the many different gods like in various religions of today and this modern time?

[@urekmazino2485]

@@Bilal-ys6df Are you sure?

[@Bilal-ys6df]

@@urekmazino2485 Yes. Produce a valid piece of evidence if you want to claim the opposite.

[@klickklack3949]

If alexander and dhul aren't the same islam is simply false, cause all legends regarding dhul are historically linked to Alexander.

[@justinshadrach829]

The Quran also says Abraham and Jesus where Muslims! All that shows is the problem with the Qurans inaccuracies! The same as the 7 sleepers story and Solomon and the Hooper bird....all Plagaried and islamicised for the Arabs!

[@willempasterkamp862]

Germanicus = rightious Cornelius (the horned) = James the Just (Santiago) = Pandera Sidonia (the deceiver) = Zacharias barachai (the blessed) = famous Cleopas (Klopas) = prosperous Imran (the rich) = lucky Felix = Matthias (Nathanael) = Saleh (Saulus) = St. Paul the traveller (Ophiuchus) = bar Kamtza (migrating locust). He arrived at the island of the Dayyal = Pandateria (Ventotene) = land of the scattered elect = 2 witnessses (Twin, Gemini, walkures, boanerges) = Melchisedek = malik & sadiq = wicked and pious = the obsolete sons (horns) = gog & magog = fallen angels = twin urges (demi-urg) = juggler (handyman) & magician (wizzard) = King + Priest = zealot warrior & obedient servant = pharisee & sadducee = Esau & Jacob = Mars & Venus = weaponbearer & lightbearer. Germanicus is Zebedee (who dwells with god) or who is closest to the sun ; Mercury (the Messenger) = Hermes (djibril). His compagnons are Appollo (the destroyer) and Pan (the revivor, life-giving spirit). thrice great Hermis trismegistos or the 3 magi ; Balthasar (treasure-bearer) Gerardus and Caspar. the gold is durable, the mirr and frankincense (John & James) are not.

[@xjuhox]

Mohammed mixed Alexander Romance with the religion of Allah...

[@seiddzekovic4189]

Ha-ha

[@islamthecure5490]

1+1+1=0

[@moazzamlxxl]

@Pav Slivka You Idiot, Islam came after Judaism and Christianity. Who says that Jesus was a Muslim when there was no Islam at that time? Jesus was a Messenger of God and he was giving instructions that was sent to him by God. 124,000 prophets and 313 messengers came to the world. Out of 313 messengers only 4 came with whole books.

[@indianyoutuberindian2797]

Shut up

[@callmefuge2637]

did u not see the video he literally just said there is not link for alexander the great to be dul qrneen

[@bouya5692]

I think qhul qarnayns story matches whith Cyrus the greats I think it's Cyrus the great even Alexander the great sai if Cyrus the great was alive he surely wouldn't have won.

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

Lol. Where did Alexander say that. Send me a source. 🤡🤣

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@Kuffar punisher Are you talking to me? Well, you can believe all of that, that is fine. There are plenty of sources that clearly show that Alexander was a Greek Pagan and sacrificed to Zeus and many of the other Greek God's. The sources about that are overwhelming. If anything, Alexander's conquests actually helped Christianity grow indirectly since the New Testament was written in the Greek Language, which all scholars agreed at the time was the most spoken language in the Eastern Mediterranean, as well as the most Richest Language of the time that had a wide vocabulary of words to describe Metaphysics, the Soul, and other deep Philosophical & Religious topics. And yes, there is the account of Josephus about Alexander going to Jerusalem, but there is no mention of that anywhere else in historical sources. Here he is being shown the Prophecy of Daniel: «δειχθείσης δ᾽ αὐτῷ τῆς Δανιήλου βίβλου, ἐν ᾗ τινα τῶν Ἑλλήνων καταλύσειν τὴν Περσῶν ἀρχὴν ἐδήλου, νομίσας αὐτὸς εἶναι ὁ σημαινόμενος»... -Ιώσηπος Φλάβιος [Ἰουδαϊκή ἀρχαιολογία 11.8.5] "And when the Book of Daniel was showed him wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he [Alexander] supposed that himself was the person intended." -Josephus [Antiquities of the Jews 11.8.5] www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0146%3Abook%3D11%3Awhiston%20chapter%3D8%3Awhiston%20section%3D5 The Jews believed this story to be true however, and there was even a Mosaic discovered in Israel depicting the scene, although we cannot know for sure if Alexander even stepped foot in Jerusalem. His Successors known as the Diadochi certainly did however, and even were the cause for the Maccabean Wars, again from Josephus. Interesting topic for sure. Those Greeks really did a lot!

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@Kuffar punisher Stop deleting my comment please. Alexander was not a Homosexual but he was most certainly a PAGAN worshipper. He believed in the Gods of the Ancient Hellenic Pantheon, Zeus & Athena & all the rest. We have thousands of Historical Sources. Stop being blind & ignorant, there is no tolerance for that mentality in the 21st century. Take Care Now ✌️

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@Kuffar punisher Alexander was not a Homosexual but he was most certainly a PAGAN worshipper. He believed in the Gods of the Ancient Hellenic Pantheon, Zeus & Athena & all the rest. We have thousands of Historical Sources. Stop being blind & ignorant, there is no tolerance for that mentality in the 21st century. Again, he was Hellenic Pagan Zeus, Athena, Ares, Poseidon, Apollo etc Take Care Now ✌️

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@Mujahid Im reporting you for calling me Non-Muslim. You are prejudice & bigoted & quick to Anger. I will REPEAT: Alexander was not a Homosexual but he was most certainly a PAGAN worshipper. He believed in the Gods of the Ancient Hellenic Pantheon, Zeus & Athena & all the rest. We have thousands of Historical Sources. Stop being blind & ignorant, there is no tolerance for that mentality in the 21st century. Again, he was Hellenic Pagan Zeus, Athena, Ares, Poseidon, Apollo etc Take Care Now ✌️

[@tomasashenafi882]

😄

[@subhabrataroy2593]

He wants to stick to Qur'anic STORY

[@siddave549]

Dhul Qurnayn story is a plagarised from ‘A CHRISTIAN LEGEND CONCERNING ALEXANDER’ which was circulating as a Syriac work during the 6th and 7th centuries and describes Alexander travelling to a part of the world where he sees sun setting in a muddy pool and defeating the tribes of Gog and Magog and building an Iron wall. The story is exactly the same as found in the Quran. According to the Quran Alexander the Great was a Muslim which is so ridiculous to the point of being laughable. Alexander the Great was a devout Greek pagan and not a monotheist. The Dhul Qurnayn story found in the Quran is false

[@xllab1]

Source? I would be very interested.

[@siddave549]

@@xllab1 Oh Sure...here are the sources. Let me know if you need anything else: Evidence that Dhul Qurnayn is Alexander: The Dhul Qurnayn story is derived and plagarised from popular myths regarding Alexander that were floating around in Arabia. Please refer to this from Page 150 onwards: archive.org/details/bub_gb__14LmFqhc8QC/page/n265 In this myth, Alexander the great is doing the same things that Dhul Qurnayn is doing in the Quran. Even pre-islamic poets referred to Alexander as Dhul Qurnyan It is obvious after reading this that Muhammad simply had heard this mythical story about Alexander which he assumed to be a historic fact and decided to tell this story to them as a divine revelation thus clearly showing that the Quran is simply a book of myths and fables and is handiwork of 7th century folks.

[@budekins542]

Sid, that's a Very good point you made about Mohammed - he Assumed that some of the Alexander legends were real historical accounts.

[@AshrafAnam]

@@siddave549 LOL. Idiotic research, kid. The Syriac Legend of Alexander is dated to 629/630 AD. The Quranic verses of _Dhou al-Qarnayn_ were revealed before 622 AD, the year of the Hegira. The author of the Syriac Legend of Alexander conflated the separate account of _Dhou al-Qarnayn_ , already known among Jews and Middle Eastern Christians (the reason why the Jews of Medina told the Meccan pagans to ask the Prophet Mohammad about it to test his knowledge of accounts only known to followers of the Biblical tradition), with his translation of the Greek Alexander Romances. _Dhou al-Qarnayn_ was already a known figure in the Middle East who built the gates in the Caucasus pass to prevent the tribes of Gog and Magog, and what the Syriac author did was identify him with Alexander and hence he added the account of _Dhou al-Qarnayn_ with his translation of the Greek Alexander romances. It's quite obvious.

[@AshrafAnam]

@@budekins542 He assumed nothing. He never identified anyone with _Dhou al-Qarnayn_ . All of the accounts found in Surah al-Kahf of the Quran, including the account commonly known under the title of Seven Sleepers, are meant for guidance, teaching of spiritual dimensions of the religion and eschatological symbolism. These accounts are separate from the accounts of prophets and apostles such as Moses or Salih.

[@abisarwanhusaiflakim4478]

At least alexander the great has physical successes still left to date. How about dhul qarnain? 😂

[@razalim7293]

His story was mentioned in Al Quran in, for example in Surah Al Kahfi. Why do you question and put laughing emoji about it?

[@shamsheerg7519]

@@razalim7293 The Quran uses the myth of Alexander as Dhul qaranin.... The Quran is wrong.

[@razalim7293]

@@shamsheerg7519 Are you a Muslim? Please don't insult us Muslims by accusing our Al Quran is myth.

[@shamsheerg7519]

@@razalim7293 What do you know of Alexander the Great? Do you know he was called the Man with Two Horns throughout history?

[@shamsheerg7519]

@@razalim7293 Why does the Quran use a mythical story of Dhul Qarnanin if it is not a myth? Please explain this Brother.

[@justinshadrach829]

Don't go digging too deep!? WHAT!? BECAUSE YOU MIGHT DISCOVER THE TRUTH!?

[@klickklack3949]

In the end he even admits digging to much about this story would cause problems... Because it would cause the realization that Islam is false and quran even borrows from ancient fairy tales while not even getting them right.

[@jabakiller1025]

Poor argument We claim that quran plagiarized Alexander the Great story Islam didn't exist before Muhammad

[@jabakiller1025]

Also Alexander stories wasn't popular in arabia?

[@soohamdy8538]

@@jabakiller1025 islam began with adam and ended with Mohamed all the prophets were muslims all the belivers belived in what moses, abraham, jesus,.... came with were muslims Islam means submission to the will of god by the way and this was the religion of all belivers from the beginning of time

[@jabakiller1025]

@@soohamdy8538 nice fairy tales to tell people

[@jabakiller1025]

@@soohamdy8538 islam didn't exist before Muhammad He borrowed stories Use brain

[@soohamdy8538]

@@jabakiller1025 If you dont belive in god you wont be able to understand what iam telling you!!!!

[@london12370]

Cyrus the Great?

[@vildanetemi6186]

cyrus died in battle he lost battle - Alexander the great is true Dhulqarnien he never lost battle and his empire is from Europe to Asia east - west, and no one knows tomb of Alexander its a same words meaning in Quran by words of ALLAH Almighty.

[@onan-sonofjudahbrotherofer8466]

Plagiarism... Dhul-Qarnayn was not a real person

[@shaheenamir5342]

He was research first then comment

[@bjonphillips1135]

Irrelvant strory in the quran. Why is such irrelavant story in the quran. Similar story as alexander the great and the sun. Propoganda stories in quran. Lmao

[@ConantheBarbarian1201]

Who was Dhul Qarnayn? muslim explanation: we dont know and its not relevant.

[@alexandros8361]

Liar, Liar, Liar ,Liar!

[@scally5161]

What is this nonsense. In Islam we believe in Alexander Dhul Qarnayn pbuh.

[@enigma7719]

💯

[@enigma7719]

This guy is not even a true follower of Islam lmao

[@enigma7719]

Dhul Qarnayn was Alexander the Great PBUH

[@anthonypie9509]

You are a liar, go read more!

[@erionvojabuilding1599]

Alexander the Great was Illyrian not greek

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

🛑 Welcome to the No Skiptar Zone 🛑 In the Greek Language Skiptro or Skipse means to "Bend Over"....so you guys definitely deserve that name since we Bent you over so many times in your Short insignificant History 😉 "There are Greek troops, to be sure, in Persian service - but how different is their cause from ours! They will be fighting for pay - and not much of it at that; we, on the contrary, shall fight for *GREECE* and our *HEARTS* will be in it. As for our *FOREIGN* troops - Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians, Agrianes - they are the best and stoutest soldiers in Europe, and they will find as their opponents the slackest and softest of the tribes of Asia. And what, finally, of the two men in supreme command? You have Alexander, they - Darius!" -Alexander the Great "Your ancestors came to *Macedonia and the REST of Hellas* and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed *leader of the Greeks* and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you." -Alexander the Great 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫 Skiptar Destiny = Eternal Insignificance Forever in the Shadow of Glorious Greece

[@urekmazino2485]

what do you mean by Illyrian?

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@@urekmazino2485 That guy is an Albanian Propagandist Clown...thats all! Alexander wasn't Illyrian And Albanians are not Illyrians either! THATS ALL 💯

[@shakirullah8673]

hahahah no archeological evidence of Dul Qarnain and denying the most evident Alexender the great. You only believe blind that do not thing and quesiton who was Dhul Qarnain. Such a blind religion Islam having no evidence but just to blidnly believe thisngs because it said in a stody book.