WAS going to wait for the Price to Come Down... i7-8700 Build

[@mattparker9726]

0:36 I got my Xeon with 16 gb dual channel ram and no cooler, for 81 bucks. The Xeon in question is a E5 2670 v3. Your chip is newer, but at LESS that $100 I couldn't pass it up. I don't like buying the consumer stuff, it's always 20% or so too high.

[@grimmpickins2559]

Glad to see your return, and... of course... more importantly... the high lord and emperor that is Chair Desk. (I recently acquired a folding wooden craft table that came with four chair desk style chairs that fold up and fit inside it, I have pledged my allegiance!)

[@LowcastleTech]

Yes! The Council of ChairDesk, our numbers shall continue to grow! ⚡🪑⚡

[@ilovemonkeyos]

As someone that just came off of 8th Gen Intel (i3-8100 and then i5-8400) to 9th Gen (i7-9700F) just a few months ago, frankly both of them hold up really well still, especially paired with a good GPU. I've my old 8400 now sitting in my productivity rig. The 8100 is going to be put into a rig for my nephew I'm putting together, as his first PC.

[@antoniom.andersen6704]

Built a system around that CPU, for a friends son, not so long ago. i7-8700, MSI Z370 Mortar, 16GB ram, RTX 2060S, 650 watt PSU, 500GB boot drive and a 3TB HDD. Works like a charm and the kid's happy. Got the CPU, cooler, RAM and MB cheap because soda had been spilled on it, a quick wash, rinse, dry, new BIOS battery and it was working. Paid ~$45 for the combo as it was listed as "not working/for parts". I doubt the guy knew anything about the parts.

[@LowcastleTech]

Heck yeah, that is an awesome deal. Very cool that you could get it back into action.

[@GhostGamer799]

Good catch

[@DarkKnight-lh4gr]

What did you use to wash the board

[@antoniom.andersen6704]

@@DarkKnight-lh4gr Just soap and water. Rinse in water after and let it dry.

[@DarkKnight-lh4gr]

@@antoniom.andersen6704 how the heck is that safe

[@massgrave8x]

I built my "budget" server based around the i7-8700 with used parts from ebay, been running Unraid for over a year now, ZFS array with NVMe cache and a ton of docker containers, no issues at all!

[@LowcastleTech]

That's awesome 🙂 I always like hearing about home budget server projects, people do a lot of creative stuff in that area, sounds pretty cool.

[@TheDrdoom666]

You are a Super Star... great post.. I am still rocking the 5930K and it still holds up.

[@mattparker9726]

Our boy is FIENDIN! GIVE HIM USED OFFICE PCs!

[@Tonyisgaming]

My buddy hooked me up with his old system. It has a i7 8700 and 16GB of RAM. After adding a 4070 Super I ended up with a really capable system for $600. The 8700 was worrying me in terms of bottlenecking… but honestly I’m getting stellar performance. Able to run triple A games at Ultra RT with frame gen and DLSS at 120+ FPS 1440p and competitive games with no DLSS goes crazy. I think this is the bare minimum anyone should buy, it bottlenecks far less than older CPUs.

[@JeffWaynee]

There are 4th and 5th gen 6 core 12 thread i7's on the X99 platform, but the 8th gen are the first to use 6 cores in a mainstream i7.

[@Ligmaballsnga]

They have old architectures plus they aren't optimized and supported anymore also they use DDR3

[@Yolofolks]

Most x99 platforms uses ddr4

[@JeffWaynee]

@@Ligmaballsnga you have no idea what you're talking about

[@Ligmaballsnga]

@@JeffWaynee yes I do wtf

[@shephusted2714]

you are losing your ebay addiction - that is fine, just more in house editing time for chair desk - at least we can agree on one thing that the intel fan mounting design was designed by an engineer who did not give a shit about pool noodle insubordination or quality in the least. at least there is a ssd, nvme on this board and it is a brand name #fraps

[@pharmdiddy5120]

Dunno there are lots of deals on the i5-10500 for office PCs under $100. Not work stations so the PSU would suck most likely. The sweetest deal would be to find one with a graphics card (like a quadro or something) already in there where an office closed up!

[@LowcastleTech]

Nice, I don't spend a lot of time looking around in that range so I haven't chanced upon any of those. Sounds like I'm going to have to keep an eye out, there could be some fun potential in something like that.

[@jpurser55]

this guy is in the crazy sweet spot, liking the content

[@peyton_uwu]

4:16 Chair desk goes so hard. I personally use a stool so I can spin around whatever I'm worming on.

[@LowcastleTech]

🪑🪑🪑

[@mattparker9726]

@Lowcastle Tech, I've got a low cost Aliexpress weirdo Xeon build coming up. I might film it. I wanted to use all used parts, and an emulation drive with Retrobat and 4tb of games preinstalled, and see what a "Super Console" would be like.

[@IvailoNachev-xc3zu]

I want to ask if you are going to use a Machinist mobo or other brand typical for AliExpress? What kind of Xeon CPU? What PSU and GPU? Is everything going to be AliExpress only? I am sorry but I have something for janky builds.

[@LowcastleTech]

@mattparker9726 Heck yeah, that sounds awesome. Xeons and emulation, 2 of my favorite things but I don't believe I've ever done a Xeon emulation build. That sounds pretty tight. Let me know if you end up doing a video on it for your channel or whatever. I read pretty much all the comments so if you post it I should see. Otherwise, let me know how it goes!

[@batjexx3286]

@@IvailoNachev-xc3zujust got rid of my machinist build today🥲

[@donaldsing9898]

All hail the mighty Chair Desk❤ and welcome back 👍

[@ALEX336X]

I'm in the process of a move and just wanted to get rid of some extra parts I had. Sold a 8700, Z370M MSI Gaming Pro AC, 32gb dual channel 3600Mhz for $200. Also had a dual tower cooler. Think I made the guy really happy.

[@L4ftyOne]

Best deal used atm are ryzen 3600(x) combos with a motherboard (and sometimes ram too) for around 180-200

[@L4ftyOne]

And obviously combined with a used 5700 XT for 150-170. Runs everything in 2k ultra, many things in 4k high/med

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

​@@L4ftyOne5700xt is excellent bang for the buck. Managed to get one used locally for $100 that I gave to a friend.

[@appsaucetech]

Um...... no. The 5700xt is not a 1440 or 4k card.... not in the slightest. That's like saying a 3060 is a 4k card. Sure, it'll run roblox and minecraft at good framerates for 4k.

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

@allisasoalk5491 it's pretty capable at 1440p. Not in the newest titles from this year necessarily, but it's pretty solid

[@LowcastleTech]

Nice. I'm going to have to look into Ryzen some more. Hearing about some solid stuff, but there's generally just a lot of things I haven't had the chance to mess around with.

[@J.Wick.]

8700-2080 was my first build. Thing still performs quite well to this day. Once I put an AIO on it, and tweaked perf with ThrottleStop, the 8700 will just stay locked at 4.3. A good Air Cooler with some good paste would work well too. I still have my 8700 system and have a soft spot for that chip. It performs quite well for what it is. I mean I wish it were 8core-16thread. But still the 6/12 performs very well. Nearly exact same performance as the 10th gen i5-10400. It's beginning to show it's age for sure though. Steam downloads take 3-4x as long on it as my 13700k system. But it's also pulling 45w instead of 200w lol. No real upgrade path either. 9700 is arguably worse.

[@stillwing1]

8700 was the top dog for its time with a 1080 you have a top tier gamer from 2017 or so. would be just fine in modern games. What I see ids a budget mid tear machine there so stop insulting it.

[@BandanazX]

Bruh... I just got an Elitedesk 800 G4 SFF with an i5-8500 for $85.60 after tax and shipping. Major upgrade over the G1.

[@paulhorn24]

A whole universe just got unlocked for a bunch of PC builders and used parts hunters with the mentioning of Generation 4 Elitedesk800 :-))))

[@ntgm20]

My experience is the 8th gen Core processors and systems still fetch a premium over 7th and lower. That I'm sure is because of the official Windows 11 requirements. Good find though.

[@appsaucetech]

7th would run it perfectly fine, dunno why Microsoft made the annoying decision for that

[@ErnestPworrell88]

Thats a nice combo man, really cabaple. I've always considered think pads as the equivalent to optiplexs/ bang for buck used hardware for laptops do you have a recommendation on whay model has the best potential? I have a kid that could use one.

[@LowcastleTech]

Sorry, I'd give my 2cents, but I have almost no experience with Thinkpads. I haven't used many laptops outside of just knockaround ones. Like right now I'm using a Dell 5490 for web browsing / video playback. They're really capable with that kind of thing and usually available pretty cheap. But outside of that I pretty much just use and mess around with desktop-based hardware. Thank you for dropping a comment though!

[@Alpha-ms9nj]

I've been snooping around for parts deals. I'm rather new at it. The I7 8700 is an LGA 1151. I'm confused about the LGA 1151 sockets. I have a Dell 3620 with I5 -6500. It's an LGA 1151. I just purchased an I5 -8400 but was told it won't work in it? If the LGA 1151 is different for newer processors, then WTF aren't they called LGA 1152's? I appreciate these videos, they're helpful and helping me learn things, thank.

[@LowcastleTech]

Glad you are liking the videos, thank you! It is a bit confusing at first, but unfortunately you won't be able to run 8th gen on that board. It is the correct socket type, but compatibility of a CPU depends on other things like the chipset and what generation of processor it is capable of running. I agree it would be helpful if they had different names that factored that kind of thing in. It might help to think of the socket type as a size rather than an overall capability. In general, and just for future reference, when doing CPU upgrades you can usually find specs pages from the manufacturer of the computer or motherboard. If you just google, in your case for example, "Dell 3620 specs" or "Dell 3620 compatible CPU" and then look for results from the manufacturers website, you can typically find compatibility info. That way you should be able to find both the socket type and what generation of CPU is compatible. This can also help with selecting the correct type of RAM and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, I hope this info helps, and thank you for watching 🙂

[@paulhorn24]

LowcastleTech Wow, that is an information I have not heard much of before. Very, very helpful, thanks! You might want to create a video about it, showing how to find the comparability of a mainboard and what list of CPU and RAM modules it can work with?

[@digitalizeddeath]

Dude you rule I love your channel Chair desk rules

[@LowcastleTech]

Appreciate it! 🪑🪑🪑

[@Froggie92]

i got 2 optiplex 3040s with a 8700, 16g ram, 512 nvme, and an a1000 for $150ea can definitely agree

[@slaydog5102]

Nice

[@quintrapnell3605]

The problem is most businesses went from those 6700 desktops you found to Intel NUCs and they aren’t going to replace them for a few years.

[@chrisvids1820]

We have some xps's laying around at work that I'm trying to buy. One has a 8700 and the other a 7700. As of right now, I just have a slow, un upgradable laptop from 2016. Hopefully I can get the xps for cheap and put a better graphics card in (it had a 1050ti currently)

[@EinSwitzer]

been running unknown software designed to change software as well as hardware together .. hope yall like it.

[@georgez8859]

Good price on that Motherboard Combo .I have been watching the Dell Precision 3630 Tower on Ebay with the I7 8700, Not too bad of a price for a complete system. Thanks for the Video.

[@LowcastleTech]

Interesting, I'm not super familiar with those but seems like some potential there. Might have to do a little browsing 🙂. And sure thing, thank you for watching!

[@JordanGospelMinistryInc-go8qp]

You got a good deal on the cpu/motherboard combo! I enjoy your content :) Chair desk is just great! I use a DF Desk! ( Deep Freezer ) Enjoy the budget make it work stuff . I get kinda burned out watching all the expensive white pc builds when just the case costs more then 4 of my workstations :)

[@LowcastleTech]

I know what you mean, the more expensive stuff isn't as accessible and often just isn't as fun. I definitely enjoy the budget approach. And Deep Freeze-Desk sounds pretty legit as well 🙂. Glad you are liking the content, I appreciate you watching!

[@xandercode]

Such a great channel. Every video brilliant. I bought a z440 I see why you like them so much, great value. I've just installed macOS on it. I'm making a video about what can run open core.

[@LowcastleTech]

Thank you, glad you are enjoying the videos! That sounds pretty cool, I've never really messed with macOS or seen it installed on any of these office type computers. Could be really interesting. If you want, feel free to drop a comment when you get the video posted. It gets tough to respond to everything but I read pretty much all the comments so I will likely see it. Would def like to check that out!

[@timarc9895]

Pretty solid, happy gaming!

[@TribbleBot]

CHAIR DESK 2024

[@romcful]

What would be the best gpu for 8700?

[@RequiemForRavenholm]

Thoughts on the HP Z400? I know youve done videos on the Z440, but Id like to hear what you have to say about its older DDR3 brother

[@m-tmf]

awesome video , 'm worried about your speech impediment but i love it

[@LowcastleTech]

😄 I was definitely having some trouble. And glad you liked the video, thank you for checking it out!

[@luizfelipecavalcantedemelo7727]

friend, good morning, how are you? I recently picked up a Lenovo 920s at auction. It was very cheap and came equipped with a motherboard and processor identical to the one in the video. it's an umla q370 and an i7 8700. My intention is to make a pc - console to use in the living room, I want to play some games and also do retro emulation. But, tell me, what do you think of the chipset and bios of this system? I'm using an arc a380 lowprofile (meets the requirements of my psu and case size), but unfortunately the a380 is not working fully because the bios does not offer rebar. Another thing I didn't like is that I can't do undervolting. What did you do about these things? Big hug from a fellow Brazilian enthusiast!

[@MrMunkyMeat]

I have been seeing several of the first gen Ryzen systems locally for sale in the same price range as MB/CPU combos. Like the Ryzen 1600 with a B350 MB for $125 with cooler. But AMD didn't start making gains in gaming till Zen +.

[@sulev111]

that's a bad deal. I'd pay no more than 50$ for that combo. For 125$ I'd like to get a 3600 at least.

[@pingislife2653]

You don't have an eBay problem, and you're not sick. You are just proactive. Well, I recently got 2 old Dell towers, one with an i5 3470 (for an HTPC) and the other with an i5 4440 (will go to my nephew). They aren't as powerful as what you have though, so I'm curious to see what you will create. Hail, Chair Desk!

[@LowcastleTech]

Heck yeah. The 3rd and 4th gen systems are fun to mess around with and learn about hardware, because if a component goes wrong it is usually very cheap to replace. Of course not everyone breaks stuff as much as me 😄

[@andreaskeltwolfe6176]

the intro to this video kind of hurts. back in 2018 i built a pc with a i7 8086k oc to 5.5ghz 64gb of ddr4 3200 and 2 1070tis in sli (today its 1 3070) and back then that cpu was a huge flex. and only 6 years later its very close to being at or below min spec for some new AAA games and more and more often i hear people saying budget when talking about 8th gen i7s

[@andreaskeltwolfe6176]

for reference back then that cpu was 500$ Canadian

[@Cave_Monster]

Hey! I've just purchased this exact same cpu and motherboard on ebay, would you still put a gtx1080 in it? Or would you recommend a different gpu now? I'm hoping to do some console emulation with it - Batocera, PCSX2, Dolphin, stuff like that.

[@DarkKnight-lh4gr]

You can use a gtx 1080 but that’s pretty old and there is no dlss on the 1080 you could use fsr but I recommend and 3060 or 3060ti level gpu that’s what I have in my pc

[@Pcgamer20h]

Well I haven’t been here in a while

[@jrose-xp6tf]

Have fun while ya' CAN, with WIN 10 EOL approaching 8th gen-up gear is increasing in price and will continue to do so, good find though man.

[@IvailoNachev-xc3zu]

First you can go around this and install Win11 on it anyway. Furthermore Win11 isn't even that good of an OS and I have 2 PCs that support it but I haven't upgraded either of them. Second Linux exists and gets even better including the fact that Valve is improving Proton. I have an old laptop from 2012 that can do most basic computer tasks with 8GB of RAM thanks to it. Third Win12 is going to be subscription based on the rumors so far. I wonder how this is going to turn out. Fourth people don't have a lot of money to spend when they struggle to get basic necessities like food or a shelter.

[@timarc9895]

Not everyone is tech savvy enough to do this, heck I consider myself very good with computers in general but I don't want to have to deal with the headache. @@IvailoNachev-xc3zu

[@appsaucetech]

100% agree! Switch to Linux now so before it is necessary because of windows 12. It'll make it much easier.

[@pingislife2653]

Like the others suggested, try Linux. I have Linux Mint on an old laptop. Even with only an i3-370M, 4GB of RAM, and a 320GB HDD the laptop does what I need it to do smoothly. Also, it's free!

[@TrevorStruthers]

I have a i7-7700K with a 2070S and it was 2000 bucks when new.

[@Zestypanda]

For $290 I got an 8700, a motherboard, evo 212, 64GB DDR4 ram. Corsair HX850i psu, cables, rx580

[@misterhoudi2824]

I have a question regarding the “new” gpus not working on the old legacy bios, as in RX 550 or a GTX 750 or it’s Ti counterpart. not working on an Optiplex 780, 790, etc. as some stated legacy only works on those GT and HD graphics cards only. I would like to ask you if you had any problems installing any RX/GTX series and newer versions into such old machines like the ones I mentioned here that only used legacy. Much thanks my friend! ❤

[@Spitlebug]

HP Z4 G4's are ending service life this month. Expect loads of them to be dumped on to the refurb and e-waste outlets. The power configurator for them is weird in a bad way as far as GPU power goes, but everything else is prime for modern gaming.

[@LowcastleTech]

Nice, I will have to keep an eye on those. I really liked the look of the Z4 G4s when I've seen them in the past, but they were always just a little above the price range that I look for. Definitely worth watching though, thanks for the heads up!

[@Spitlebug]

@@LowcastleTech eventually they will be cheap. Sadly the W-series kind of has butt cache.

[@EinSwitzer]

im diggin the 4k

[@LowcastleTech]

Thank you 🙂. Definitely a process, but I've been trying to polish things up as I go along.

[@lanelesic]

Lucky you. The i7 8700 and workstations with it are insanely overpriced on my local used market. Like some cost way more, than a new R5 5500+B450 mobo+ 16GB 3200 DDR4 ram combos.

[@Hardestway]

And All Hail Chair Desk!

[@Adamsgotgame]

Desk Chair!!

[@AaronRczheski]

crazy now with current gen u can buy a $60 current gen i3 and put any previous i7 cpu to shame when it comes to gaming

[@appleapple3855]

No chair desk? I refuse.

[@JuanGonzalez-hv6vs]

AB Lincoln is on the job. You are not sick; you are insane.

[@LowcastleTech]

... There may be some truth to that 😄

[@johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408]

.....more like a scruffy Spock 🖖. ....and he's insane in a good way.

[@craigconway4093]

Can it run Crysis ?

[@EinSwitzer]

he loves it

[@MrSamadolfo]

😒👍 8700 or 3600 , 6/12 , is where its at

[@Wahinies]

Funny title because I waited so long for the i7 4770k or 4790k to drop below even what j got my 4670k for that the launch of the R5 3600 drew me in and I gave the finger to Intel.

[@JacobVanStraten]

Hey you know my step brother Joshua Desilvie !

[@frugalfun2.07]

I've subscribed now, watched more than a few videos and found them entertaining and fun. But one suggestion is to use MSI afterburner to show CPU and GPU usage to show a potential bottlenecks (and FPS). One upgrade i would get is a better cooler for the CPU, thermal throttling can be a real killjoy during a gaming session. 👍

[@LowcastleTech]

Thank you, glad you are liking the videos! That is a fair suggestion. It's a slow process, but I'm trying to polish things up as I go along, so I'll keep that in mind. Also, a cooler upgrade probably would be good. I haven't tested it super thoroughly yet, but just based on appearance it seems a bit flimsy.

[@JacobVanStraten]

Thanks for Chair desk! My step mom is in danger to. So is Josh. Hey I don't want nothing to happen to you so from my family to yours God bless you. All Hail Chair Desk and low Castle Tech. Jacob Joseph VanStraten here as long as I exist.

[@Hardestway]

I am snagging one of these today for $80.

[@noticing33]

ITS NOT MGHZ FOR RAM!!!!!

[@LowcastleTech]

Old habits, my friend 🙂. That is fair though.

[@JacobVanStraten]

I love your videos .

[@redangelwhytedevil9504]

there are none on ebay anymore.

[@danielsnyder6900]

Great video as always. Maybe chair-desk get replaced by a desk-desk soon. I have a Dell XE3 with the i7-8700, the additional cores make a difference for me for the VM Ware environments I run. Seems most tech runs on a 5 year cycle and seems most of the i7-8700 systems are appearing on the various ebay type sites now.

[@LowcastleTech]

I appreciate that, thank you for watching! I'm definitely seeing more and more of them as well. They have just been hanging right on the verge of the price dropping for so long now. Hopefully it won't be too much longer before they're in that ultra budget arena that I thrive on 😄. But hard to say.

[@LowcastleTech]

😂

[@joshd108]

I just got super lucky and got a black M-ATX mobo, i7 8700, 32gb of ddr4 and a 500gb m.2 ssd

[@LowcastleTech]

Nice!

[@Mason_bluegrass]

for me i think this is a very bad deal because i just sold my Aorus Z390 pro with i9 9900k for 200 bucks canadian . Everyone stay away from those HP DELL builshit and look for a REAL deal like i just sold on facebook...

[@EinSwitzer]

asus laptop tomorrow

[@nastronomical]

Moar chair desk 😡

[@johnathanjamesjohnsonjr7408]

...👏👍🖖

[@LowcastleTech]

🙂