Was Hadith Written Two Hundred Years After The Prophet?

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[@douglasswarner3984]

The way Sheikh Uthman is nodding at Muhammad Ali's explanations tells you something about the soundness of Muhammad Alis knowledge. ALHAMDULILLAH

[@brucemohamed5316]

Same thinking ❤

[@Akhimed]

@georgexander7170please dont ridicule uthman, hes very educated

[@lorandkastrati5052]

@georgexander7170What does reciting the quran have to do with knowledge ?

[@abustranger1789]

Uthman isnt a shaykh. He is a fake youtube shaykh. Nobody knows his teachers or where he studied

[@layman-]

To tell him fake? Fear Allah. He never claimed to be sheikh and he said multiple times that he studied with which sheikhs and he studied in Pakistan too. Fear Allah

[@kopexgaming]

mansur, hashim, ali, uthman, skeptik, best circle in youtube

[@sidzahriya9041]

Woulda been better without skeptic. Fitna chaser

[@Danish_Khan1021]

@@sidzahriya9041 that wasn't Daniel the Muslim Skeptic. That was just a random guy who had that name that came on to ask a question about hadiths to which Muhammed Ali was responding to. And yeah I don't like Daniel either.

[@Alisalah_24]

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@@Alisalah_24just fell off, sort by popular and you’ll see videos with millions of views from 5 years ago

[@NG-ku7ie]

Syeikh Uthman and Brother Mohammed Ali have good knowledge of Hadist... a good combination with other speaker, In Sha Allah...

[@Anonymous-411]

Dangerous Duo 🤣

[@shamsia_rahimi8717]

Subscribed,MashaAllah Muhammad Ali, i always appreciate your morals and patience May Allah bless you and reward you in dunya as well in the akhira🌺🍃

[@mohammedalikhan6381]

Ameen

[@alsalman007tube]

Wallahi.. Am little jealous of you.. How can a person be blessed with so much of intellect, logical and great memory.. May Allah bless you dear brother. All of them in this panel are really great but you are my favourite ❤

[@dopaminedetox4146]

Dear brother don’t ever forget to say Maa shaa Allah. May Allah increase him more and grant us as well.

[@abdelrahmankeshk2816]

الدعاء بالبركة لأهلها؛ فقد قال ابن بطال في شرح صحيح البخاري: قوله: ألا بركت. فيه أن من رأى شيئا فأعجبه فقال: تبارك الله أحسن الخالقين، وبرك فيه، فإنه لا يضره بالعين، وهي رقية منه. اهـ. وقال ابن عبد البر في الاستذكار: قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ألا بركت. يدل على أن من أعجبه شيء فقال: تبارك الله أحسن الخالقين، اللهم بارك فيه، ونحو هذا، لم يضره -إن شاء الله-. اهـ. والله أعلم.

[@canjeero]

its because we are not focused and dont learn. May Allah Swt free us from our Nafs

[@anonymous.2471]

They are not logical They are delusional

[@kamulakamula]

ALHAMDULILLAH...1st video...upload more muhammad...lots of your video in speakers corner are very good.

[@sonofpaper5722]

May Allah bless you brother. That was such a clear understanding. May Allah guide us as Muslims and keep us on the straight path.

[@Tislyfe]

Been waiting for work from u too brother Muhammad, Masha'Allah may Allah preserve u all. Continue the dawah alhamdolilah

[@Diamondraw4Real]

Yeah, same here

[@willing_submission]

Ameen

[@TheeYusi]

السلام عليكم Glad you finally made a channel Habibi, May Allah preserve you and keep your intentions firm. 🙏🏽❤️

[@readquranandlearnaboutisla592]

و عليكم السلام ورحمة الله

[@1407saint]

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[@glorious8429]

May Allah Subhanaho wa ta'ala reward you for this beautiful explanation. جزاكم الله خيرا

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Finally I found your channel , I’ve been watching your video from speakers corner and it was hard to find but alhamdulillah, please post more video regularly

[@Just_logic]

It’s nice to see young brother Muhammad joining the big lions.

[@safwanshahriar4108]

He is one of the bigger lions but very well mannered and polite

[@maviyasukri361]

My beautiful brother Muhammed, I have watched all of your videos brother, and I am sad that i have no more videos to watch. And I really don't wanna start my day without listening to you. please share more videos.

[@canjeero]

we need to write down what we have benefited from brother Muhammad and study this stuff for our own self inshaaAllah. Just listening will not bring US further

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May Allah guide you and guide us, thanks for making a Chanel I have c ur content on other channels and always wanted ur personal Channel. I like ur way of dawah

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If only Christians would have all these references to call upon when it comes to authenticity of their bibles

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The Straight Path! He’s our guy we claimed him first lol

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[@nazeemsultan123]

True

[@Anonym0us_Red]

JazakAllahu khair akhi❤❤

[@raedassaf712]

May god gives all theses men’s the power and fairness to continue spreading the words of Allah , barak allah fikoum

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[@alliabdullah6180]

really seeing these brothers i feel very confident jazakum Allah kheir.

[@naimuddoula]

Really love your videos

[@samialkhuwaiter1123]

شرح جيد ، بارك الله في جهودكم وجعلها خالصة لوجه الكريم.

[@user-in9ic9kl6z]

بارك الله فيكم

[@maviyasukri361]

What a beautiful group of people.❤️

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Subscribed after watched the stream on DawahWise

[@os2568]

Me too..

[@tarakkhandakar]

Me to alhumdulillah

[@putnicesaquranom]

بارك الله فيك!

[@RayOfHope8]

MashaAlllah... May Allah protect our brothers.

[@AdrianMuslim]

MashaAllah brother, you should be on the Arena on Hamza's Den. You have good knowledge.

[@Kassalawy56789]

Masha Allah brother Mohamed, may God bless you and give you more knowledge

[@abdulkoddus608]

ma shaa Allah. Fantastic explanation

[@monwarhossain6758]

Just beautiful explanation.

[@theonepurpose3968]

mashaAllah this is really well explained

[@mohammadalam7536]

Jazakallahu khair

[@RayOfHope8]

Mashallah. ❤️

[@ahmedadawy1238]

Ma sha Allah tabark Allah

[@Sami-bs1go]

مشاء الله بارك الله فيك

[@sidahmed2385]

Masha Allah.....Muslim version of Avengers! 👍🏼👌🏼 May Allah swt reward you all....Ameen

[@asherdilber570]

Mash’Allah

[@AjAb7555]

2 years later in 2024,Brother Ali,Masha Allah you have come so far.

[@Noscope1337]

Mashallah, baraka Allahu feek

[@jabbaraliinamdar5377]

Barakallah feekum.

[@sajjadmehmood2943]

Dua to Fix all your family issues: رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ اَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيّٰتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وََّاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا اے ہمارے رب !تو ہمیں ہماری بیویوں اور اولادوں سے آنکھوں کی ٹھنڈک عطا فرما اور ہمیں پرہیزگا روں کا امام بنا۔ Our Lord! Grant us from among our wives and offspring, comfort to our eyes and make us an example for the righteousness. (Al-Furqan:74)

[@fmsstudio6316]

What i hear alot is not about the hadiths or tge books but ppl i speak to are confused about the role of hadith they are nor rejecting hadith as a supplement or context to Quran but they are hesitant to accept that it was from the beginning meant to be foundational to the religion in the way it is.

[@freeman7983]

Masha ALLAH tabaraka ALLAH

[@Paper-Z]

Sheik Uthman was nodding almost throughout😄

[@mari_000]

Because this two (ali and sheikh uthman) have the same knowledge and understanding

[@friendlyneighbourhoodmusli6565]

Masha Allah brodah

[@MoroccanARROWS]

Soooo happy alhamdulillah to find your channel.. _jazakallahu khayra for this topic and nafaa'llahu bika wa zadaka 'ilman wa tawfiqa.._ If only all muslims listen and comprehend.. It hurts me seeing some people talking without knowledge and contesting Sahih Albukhari (actually fitnat albukhari is not new, but from time to time it becomes a fashion!!).. No need to talk about the ones who reject completely the sunnah and claim believing only in Quran.. do they not question themselves how the Quran reached them.. :( ? *I ask Allah swt to show us the Truth as truth and grant us to follow it and show us the Falsehood as falsehood and grant us to avoid it.. Ameen*

[@88Grimmjow]

Bukhari is one of the greatest persons in history and will remain so until the end of times.

[@rogersmith6813]

Other than the Prophets (saw and as) their companions and people mentioned in the quran But 👍

[@coronateststation241]

There isnt even a manuscript of bukhari

[@Notrandomlikeyou]

Try not to reject this hadith from the so called "most authentic hadith book in the world" Sahih Bukhari 7:67:393 . I have more because the book itself is full of it it's just and example. And these careless scholars hide it.

[@engineergaming5478]

​@@NotrandomlikeyouVolume 7, Book 67, Number 393: Narrated Adi bin Hatim: The Prophet said, "If you let loose your hound after a game and mention Allah's Name on sending it, and the hound catches the game and kills it, then you can eat of it. But if the hound eats of it, then you should not eat thereof, for the hound has caught it for itself. And if along with your hound, join other hounds, and Allah's Name was not mentioned at the time of their sending, and they catch an animal and kill it, you should not ea: of it, for you will not know which of them has killed it. And if you have thrown an arrow at the game and then find it (dead) two or three days later and, it bears no mark other than the wound inflicted by your arrow, then you can eat of it. But if the game is found (dead) in water, then do not eat of it." And it has also been narrated by 'Adi bin Hatim that he asked the Prophet "If a hunter throws an arrow at the game and after tracing it for two or three days he finds it dead but still bearing his arrow, (can he eat of it)?" The Prophet replied, "He can eat if he wishes."

[@TheUser360]

@@coronateststation241 It was orally transmitted. Get a book, read, rather than reading your daily Bible which you've become too numb to realize is filled with contradictions.

[@halalvibes7237]

Allahumma Barik

[@mari_000]

Wow this two are very strong in dawah.i wish muhammed ali and sheikh uthman would make dawah on the Street together

[@Andalusian_]

Do you have links to the other compilations which you mentioned? Are there English translations?

[@TheMuslimLantern]

This is some of what i have mentioned in the video that is available online, To the extent of my Knowledge Muwatta of imam malik is available in English (3000) Narrations, For someone who is seeking the Truth 1 Manuscript is enough to admit that they were wrong about the topic. The Manuscript of the Tabee Kharash Ibn Abduallah In Berlin Num1552, and In Library Of Sahed Ali In Turkey Num 539 (You can email the Library for a Picture of the Manuscript from the Following Link) t.me/ALIPASHA2 صحيفة التابعي خراش بن عبد الله. مخطوط في شهيد علي 539، وفي برلين (1552.) www.alukah.net/library/0/79183/ The Hadith of مثني بن عبد الله Died 150 Ah www.alukah.net/culture/0/139062/ تفسير ابن جريح Died 150 Ah waqfeya.net/book.php?bid=1825 كتاب المناسك سعيد بن أبي عروبة died 156 AH www.alukah.net/library/0/100596/ Muwatta of imam malik Died 179 Ah

[@biased6463]

Maa xaa Allah

[@RGBLL]

I would like to see the discussion

[@Anonym0us_Red]

Alhamdulillah

[@2812keNida]

Sahih Al-Bukhari's authentications of Hadith make easy for common people to acknowledge & understand as for who doesn't have any sense of authenticity of hadith in previous books where they didn't mention any authenticity

[@muhammadalifmohdtarmizi4765]

ALL THE LEGENDS HERE!!!!!

[@bilalabbas6972]

Salaam Alaikum please put subtitles

[@TheUneducatedTeacher]

Allah protects his religion. May he raise everyone of our ranks And those whom came before us, and after us. Ameen

[@MANJAMARA]

Can you upload the whole conference, please?

[@TheMuslimLantern]

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​@@TheMuslimLanternI can't find it

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[@muhammedalimi]

Sallalahu Alayhi Waalihi Wasallam

[@jehuty2seven]

I'm still struggling with these statements, pls help me : 1. "Hadith believers are unconsciously insinuating that Prophet Muhammad made a MISTAKE of not asking his companions to write down his sayings and actions and CHECK the writings HIMSELF by asking the writers to read them, just like he did with the Quran" 2. "If How we do Salat is fundamental to islam, then why didn't Prophet Muhammad made sure it was written by his companions accurately and check it? No such instructions were made in his lifetime. And why didn't Allah SWT put it in the Quran? The only possible answers to these questions are; a. Allah SWT made a mistake b. Prophet Muhammad made a mistake c. Both of them didnt make a mistake because it was a man made doctrine added after Prophet Muhammad passed away

[@Hasan...]

Good summary of arguments, and yes (as you already know) the correct answer is (c). As for 1. Prophet Muhammad (saw) himself instructed the companions/people to erase anything that you are writing which is not the Qur'an. (i.e. only write the Qur'an from me). It shows how hadith or even Sunnah was never meant to be in a written form, otherwise Prophet (saw), among the 10,000s+ of so-called authentic hadiths we have would have instructed to "Document my Sunnah" ... Never! Not once. Not even in a weak hadith. As for 2. It's unfortunate that they throw this question (without knowing its answer) and "assume" that Oh so if prayer rituals/instructions are not mentioned in the Qur'an then certainly we need another "Book" as a source to learn Islam!? That's the most illogical conclusion, and goes directly against the Qur'an. Allow me to explain... The Qur'an instructs us to do Sacrifice of Animals.. but doesn't detail exactly how (and many similar examples). Because that is a common knowledge. Likewise, the months of Hajj are (as Qur'an says) "well known" and doesn't mention them in the Qur'an.. meaning that "secondary" source of information is simply the ongoing Sunnah. Whether someone documents it or doesn't, it will always be known. Documentation of hadith simply made things worse. It's equable to what Christians did with the Bible. Hadith books (including Sahih) includes blasphemous, absurd, vulgur content that the mainstream has no shame in ascribing to the Prophet (saw). Many contradicts with the Qur'an, let alone contradict each other. Many degrade women,.and mock Prophets. Many doesn't even has "Sunnah" some are just random stories of monkeys and rocks. How is that become a mainstream source of Islamic book? It's insanity. Islam = Qur'an and Sunnah. And Sunnah is certainly not "hadiths". Allah (swt) warns us (in 45:6) against following any hadith after the Qur'an, by saying: "These are the verses of Allāh which We recite to you in truth. Then in what hadith after Allāh and His verses will they believe?"

[@user-kx1tf4vx1i]

اقرا اقوال العلماء

[@Hasan...]

@@user-kx1tf4vx1i Thank you for your wise words and advice.. May I know which part(s) of my comment bothered you the most and why? All I reinforced was: "Islam = Qur'an and Sunnah" ... do you not agree? Hadiths are commonly regarded as "Sunnah" by the majority, whereas "Sunnah" has not originated from Hadiths.. rather hadiths were compiled from "some" of the Sunnah, while some hadiths are misleading and unauthentic, including the Sahih hadiths. Prophet (saw) made sure to deliver and teach the Qur'an, so any hadith that helps understand the Qur'an, we should accept, and any Hadith that contradicts the Qur'an, or is irrelevant, absurd, vulgar (whether it is in Sahih Bukhari or wherever) we should fear Allah (swt) and 'not' ascribe any falsehood on our beloved Prophet (saw). Yes, Sahih hadiths (around 150 of them) include absurdity, vulgarity, and/or blasphemy.. many Contradicts the Qur'an... But yes majority Sahih hadiths are ok. If you haven't studied all the Sahih hadiths (or if you don't know which Hadiths I'm referring to) then don't bother lecturing me.. Thanks!

[@user-kx1tf4vx1i]

@@Hasan... ربما بسبب الترجمه لم أفهم الكلام جيدا ظننت انك تنكر سنة النبي علية الصلاة والسلام والاحاديث لذلك اذا فهمي خطأ اعتذر

[@anonymous.2471]

Option c is correct answer

[@secemedim]

I love this guy

[@shuaibmohammed3256]

Salamalykum Ustad. Which part of Arab are you. MashaAllah I like your accent

[@TheMuslimLantern]

Wa alykom Aslam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu It's a mixture of different accents

[@therighteousrighthand]

This is a very important point.. No matter how many books were written before Bukhari. It is important that the ummah has approved Bukhari which was written 200 years after Muhammad. So all hadiths in Bukhari should be accepted and a healthy criticism is good.

[@BitMan1010]

Why should they all be accepted? Please tell me brother.

[@therighteousrighthand]

@@BitMan1010 Its like saying I accept the Quran but only 90% of the verses. How can the ummah accept Bhukari as a trustworthy scholar but only accept hadiths that you like and reject others. Ae you more scholarly that Bhikari? Did Bhukhari not have the wisdom to reject those hadiths?

[@necesitos11]

I thought it had been just corrupted

[@shokzz1532]

@@BitMan1010Because majority of scholars have classified it as authentic. With the exception of a few scholars

[@deerugz2152]

One question I never get an answer. Did the prophet approved these writing and if so why is not in the Quran ? When it comes to the gospel especially with Paul we are very critical about but we basically doing the same it’s very contradictory when there is also weak a fake Hadith. Who are we following Allah or scholars?

[@aimimai5862]

Where can I get the full video of this discussion?

[@linkup901ify]

Assalamu alaikum brother. I have a few questions about the manuscripts to these hadith collections and books containing hadith. Do we have the original manuscripts to them? If so where can I find those? Are there books that have photocopies that I can look at?

[@user-bx5ec4wx7l]

Jazakanlah heiran brothers

[@aziz_bhai_44]

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[@bilalabbas6972]

Please put up subtitles I have a hearing problem.

[@gobah]

Ma sha Allah. Muhammad Ali is a wealth of knowledge.

[@lacag-lacag]

AlhamduliALLAH

[@essaayoub2543]

Love you Mohammad Ali ❤❤❤❤

[@peterhwang1860]

Manuscripts. When are the earliest physical copies?

[@osamaali2388]

Look up the definition of manuscript

[@idreesabdallah.2664]

Have taqwa and be sincere, seek knowledge and apply what you learn my siblings, Allahu Akbar!

[@user-tf3ct3tb4j]

Quran 6:145 Say: I DO NOT FIND in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden for an eater to eat of except that it be what has died of itself, or blood poured forth, or flesh of swine-- for that surely is unclean-- or that which is a transgression, other than (the name of) Allah having been invoked on it; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring nor exceeding the limit, then surely your Lord is Forgiving, Merciful. Q16:115-116 And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, ” This is lawful and this is unlawful” to invent falsehood about Allah . Now ask yourself the question. Did the prophet after reciting the above verses to the people around him went ahead to spread falsehood about Allah ?

[@YEAGERlST]

Anyone know where I can watch the full thing?

[@v.w.v]

DawahWise 😎

[@thepoorsultan5112]

😮😮😮

[@biased6463]

Salaam Alaikoum Muhammed Ali, I have a question brother, when the Hadiths were checked by Bukhari ra7imahoulah, did this happen hadith by hadith? Or was it also possible that a bundle of hadiths were checked at once?

[@AL-FATTAH_servant]

Wa Alaikum Assalam Wa Rahmatu Allahi Wa Barakatuh. Ofcourse, it was hadith by hadith, and it wasn't only checked by Al-Bukhari رحمه الله alone but with his scholars also, and it was checked through time by many scholars. People used to travel long distance (it takes a long time, sometimes months) just for one hadith

[@br4885]

all lies@@AL-FATTAH_servant

[@nbpgamr2607]

​@@br4885 Source: what's app university

[@omotoshotaiwoolanrew]

1, Sahifah Hamman bin Munabih 719 CE / 748 CE (born 87 years after mohammad death) 2. -Musannaf of Ibn Jurayj 80/699 and died in 150/768( born 67 years after mohammad died) 3. Musannaf of Ma`mar bin Rashid (b.714 CE) (born 82 years after mohammad death) 4. The Muwatta' of Malik bin Anas: Malik bin Anas ((711-795) (born 79 years after Mohammad death) 5. The Musannaf of `Abd al-Razzaq al-San`an(744-827 CE,) (born 112 years after Mohammad death) 6. Musnad Abu Dawood Tayalisi (751-750-1 CE) (born 119 years after Mohammad death) 7. Musnad Imam Shafa'i (767-820 CE) (born 135years after Mohammad death) 8. Musnad Humaidi d. 841 CE All these people wrote down the hadith 100s and 200 years after muhammad death.

[@Bilal-ys6df]

If you throw all the books in the world in the fire right now. We have a Quran and a Saheeh Bukhari together. You don’t understand that the transmission was originally oral. A person can change a piece of paper just as easily as he can change speech. So where is the Gotcha of having Ahadith written down at a certain time. They might as well could not have been written down at all. It would be the same.

[@brokenhero6828]

@@Bilal-ys6dfBecause oral transmission of the Quran was guaranteed by Allah… and the Quran was compiled throughout the life of the prophet S.A.W.. how can Bukhari be sound orally when there are thousands of Hadiths that were doubtful

[@amraboulriesh1122]

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[@pirikapiri3591]

I cant find the full video

[@clivecottam1509]

link to full vid pls?

[@Anonymous-411]

Anyone got the list that Br Muhammad Ali mentioned? Sometimes his accent I can't catch what he said.

[@curiouscat5229]

The Thinking Muslim Podcast: Jonathan Brown episode is recommended.

[@redkakkarot]

I once watch a video it happened In Malaysia a layman asked for dalil from some local famous ustaz, but they got mocked and humiliated and was label wahabi. Watching this we understood that asking for dalil ask been a practiced since the time of the sahaba.

[@MuslimTelugu]

Oh ok Rise of Lantern started from here😂😂

[@benabeihemaamor5247]

ohibbukum fillah...sheikh Uthman, bro Hashim, bro Mansur, bro Jake n sheikh Muhammad

[@riam5429]

Bhukari should’ve never been translated in the English language because it’s soo confusing to the no Arabic speaking laymen like me, I mean, I got a book of shahih bukhari and it mentions Hadith which have been abrogated like the muta Hadith yet it never mentioned that in the book! 🤷‍♂️

[@munawarahmed2833]

It is sad, people are judging between the speakers. Take what you choose / like or shut up.

[@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme]

don't take what you like take what makes sense

[@Muslim_and_proud1]

2024

[@FOOTSHOTS1]

Shiekh uthman is like < Yea we got an upcoming schoolar mashalah

[@JavHos98]

The problem is any believer can’t be found as a true believer? Should we rely on the thought of the majority of believers because they are major believers rather than the authenticity of Hadith or it’s content?!

[@JavHos98]

Further more the ayah mentions مومنین ! How can we basically say that every person who is a Muslim is a true مومن، as the Quran mentions that there are munafqin between you!

[@JavHos98]

This way of believing in ahadith ia not logical at all!

[@IIKno]

I'm very confused as to what you are actually trying to say. If you are saying that hadiths arent fully reliable because they come through a narration chain then, this is not a real issue because we have information about who the narrators are, what they did, how their character was, were they trustworthy?, was their memory weak?. We know from this information that the narrators of a sahih hadith are all trustworthy and reliable people. Furthermore, many times many different narrators narrate the same or similar hadith, this shows that they all agreed to the hadith and thus proves that it is 100 percent authentic. such a hadith like this is called Muttawatir hadith. Thus due to us knowing who the narrators are in depth and the fact that there are many muttawatir hadiths means that there would is no doubt or possibility of a secret hypocrite spreading false information. Hadith science is very deep and strict to the point where a Saheeh hadith is reliable and true information that cannot be rejected.

[@Junior-yt6cx]

@@IIKno The key word you say is narrators. You have no manuscripts.

[@IIKno]

​@@Junior-yt6cx You are actually delusional and inconsistent, which sensible historian says that you need manuscripts for everything and oral tradition is unreliable? Do you even realize that most manuscripts that are very old do not survive? Does that mean there were no manuscripts? Why dont you apply this standard in your daily life, say to your history books? do they have original manuscripts of what the ancient authors wrote, original manuscripts for events in history which you believe? You are an hypocrite and this standard made by your feelings is pointless. If you are a christian then your comment is laughable. I apologize for the late reply but it is not my fault as youtube failed to send me a notification.

[@islam8403]

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