Was live: Building a Voron 2.4! (Part 1: Parts used, frame assembly)

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[@OriOnTheIguanaHunter]

I just received my Formbot kit and I'm installing alongside with you. I have to say Kudos to Formbot, every critic done on this video the current kit has it fixed. - Stainless steel hardware, no rust. - Wiring loom included, no need to build wires. - The motors don't have the cable attached, they just have a connector that I can plug my cables - A bunch of spare parts So far the only think I'm changing is my bottom and back parts but because I want to use ABS parts but they included what's on the BOM. I'm very very satisfied with this kit, looks like they are listening and making it better and better.

[@bsmith1381]

I noticed this as well, really makes me want to pull the trigger on the purchase

[@beny68eos]

Were 3D parts printed in a set? On their business, it is written that the set of parts does not contain. Thanks for the info

[@OriOnTheIguanaHunter]

@@beny68eos I used the print it forward service

[@ManIkWeet]

Your stream quality is excellent, constant talking (but not rambling), explaining what you're doing, mentioning the right things in the moment, quick solutions for minor problems. I love it!

[@mrbrdo]

Agreed, very pleasant to watch and co-build my Voron too :)

[@hunterg312]

Reading Saftey info and parts list: 30:00 Building the Frame: 32:50 Install Z Linear Rails: 1:16:50 Z Drive Assembly 2:00:00 Compressor Feet: 3:06:05 Motor Mounts: 3:20:00

[@lashley370z]

Well done. A voron 2.4 is on my bucket list of things to do.

[@chrisx6907]

I love watching these lives even after nearly a year. it's just so relaxing and informative while im waiting for a print to finish!

[@BelviGER]

My 2.4 also originally ran a mosquito magnum but it didn't take long until I switched it out. With one heater I couldn't even get the it to hold temperature properly, and with two heaters the wiring route throttled the heatbreak and I got the biggest clog in the heatbreak I've ever had Quite happy with the mosquito magnum in a Stealthburner now

[@filanfyretracker]

I feel like these things say "No Power Tools" just to avoid that one guy who has to be the Tim the Toolman and assemble it with MORE POWER instead of a clutched drill.

[@anbu94]

I assemble all printers with a 1/2" Snap-on pneumatic impact. Give everything 2 to 3 good uga-dugas!

[@pnkfld7892]

the point around minute 47 about building a 3d printer is exactly why I got my i3mk2 as a kit. I wanted to put it together so I know how the machine is put together. I'm not afraid to take it apart when it need maintenance or something goes wrong.

[@zxcvbnmnz]

I got the same kit with PI 3 and SKR1.3. Every thing was there with quite a few extra screws and plugs. Started out fast but wiring the gantry has taken a month, just needs plugs on the gantry wires and its going. I could finish it in the time I'll spend watching this video:)

[@f.remplakowski]

I've been procrastinating on my build and I broke that today by following along with you to get my Z-Drive assembled. Thank you

[@physicsquack7660]

Currently building a Voron 2.4 with an attempt to get it to print Ultem. Already got my Prusa MK3s to print Ultem with water cooled stepper motors and a heated chamber (along with miscellaneous upgrades). Upgraded the BoM of the Voron for High temperature components and modifying the enclosure to allow a PTC heater and blower for active heating of the chamber. Parts are also printed out of 35wt% CF Nylon.

[@derektran9404]

Why do you need to print ultem? Also CF Nylon creeps.

[@physicsquack7660]

@@derektran9404 Why not print Ultem, as printing Ultem also means I have the temp capabilities to print PEEK, PEKK and other high grade thermoplastics with uses in the medical, aerospace, and automotive industries? Creep only inhibits you if dont you know how plastics, with or without additives, react to thermal and compressive stress.

[@derektran9404]

@@physicsquack7660 Are you actually using the plastic sin those applications? For the average joe having aluminum milled is far cheaper.

[@Siliconpixel]

Thanks so much for doing this stream - as a camera op, I know how much time and effort just goes into setting up the streaming kit. Well done, I’m watching while waiting another couple of weeks for my high quality Formbot kit.

[@DerBen0487]

Ok now Voron numbers will go through the roof xD

[@TheRealMrLaserCutter]

Glad I have my kit already

[@zola5584]

how much it cost?:)

[@hutab]

Would be nice to check if the printbed, the kit comes with, isn‘t actually stress reliefed and warps when heated.

[@GeertSteyaert]

Formbot says it doesn't warp/cup when heated. I've asked them to confirm that here and on Nero's videos and clearly state it also on their kit description, if they really stand behind that statement. Disclaimer... I have my kit arriving in the next days so I'm also a very interested party :D

[@MadeWithLayers]

Yes, it probably won't be an issue either way - but the Fermio buildplate was recommended to me because it's explicitly sold as being stress relieved. Already so many things on the printer that are over the top, so why not get an overkill buildplate, too!

[@hutab]

@@MadeWithLayers I agree. If you find the time you could test it for the ones who consider using the bed the kit comes with

[@gabriel-g6958]

@@MadeWithLayers mine was from fermio labs and it bended. I fixed it and it bended again i hope yours is better! Fermio labs refund me by the way.

[@danifem]

Yeah. Finally, was wondering when you built your voron, since you recommended it to Stefan at cnc kitchen

[@simonkufeld7903]

it looks really good, love your stuff Thomas

[@markswayne6326]

Thank you for doing a Voron build. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the build and the finished printer.

[@bigsubful]

Very useful for me now, that I'm assemblying my 2.4. Many thanks.

[@oliknow]

The PEI Bed from the Kit in the beginning looks a lot like the PEI coated Beds from 3D Prima. The little overlapping edge with the two small holes and the slightly golden back of the plate is the exact same. I use a larger version of that, it works beautifully for all Materials so far. I would use it, it worked wonders for me

[@sergeyromanenko7615]

Thanx a lot. Most thorough assembly tutorial ever!

[@marko2210]

Congrats on triggering Klipper fanboys with Duet 😂

[@timlong7289]

Its a fun build. Watch out for the M3 T-nuts, mine were horrible and I had to replace them.

[@mightygrom]

I've been using milwalkee m12 tools for about 12 years... I was without my normal 18v driver for (reasons) and ended up using the m12 driver to hang several rooms of drywall, the m12 is small like the ryobe and bosch. There are tons of other tools that use the batteries (like a rotary tool, multi-tool, jigsaw, etc).

[@htko89]

another +1 for milwaukee. Solid, quality tools. Their M12 is great. It's pricier than some competitors but I think it's worth it

[@ldomotorsjason3488]

Is it good idea I send you LDO V2.4 motor kit?

[@danny8739]

I WOULD say so! The LDO kit I got is AWESOME

[@johnnyolivares94]

Ldo motors are the best. Perfect match for Voron 🤩

[@GeertSteyaert]

He, I have my kit coming up, also wanting to record the build ... I was asking Formbot about the deduction when not buying the motors and buy the LDO motors separately but they only deduct 25$ for their motors (their cost price, not the sales price :( ). And a LDO kit costs 100$. So it was not comparable at all. But yes, I guess LDO is the brand to go right now.

[@MadeWithLayers]

It's starting to look like this won't be my last Voron build - I'll get in touch for the next one!

[@bruhmode283]

How much are LDOMOTORS?

[@chrischris6399]

worth noting in the latest manual the thread locker has been removed. even one choose to use thread locker, the weakest strength type should be used in my opinion, ie purple, or tamiya rc model thread locker

[@gabriel-g6958]

Happy to see that more channels building vorons! Voron printers are great! Excellent live as always!

[@wbrokow1]

OK Tom ordered all parts through your links. They really get ya on that shipping from Germany to US from Fermio. Wish me luck!

[@sean00172]

you dont need a duet tho for expandability thats the nice thing about klipper can strap on any amount of controllers you like and use them

[@benupde1979]

Check out the Milwaukee M12 bit driver if they sell it over there. I use one almost daily as a heavy equipment mechanic. The batteries last a very long time and the torque limiting clutch can go quite low so stripping plastic threads is preventable.

[@_trucklife]

Building my Formbot kit right now i can say that all the screws are fine - not oiled and sticky.

[@jwljwljwwwwl]

that's funny, got mine printing out right now

[@emilemouannes2236]

Many thanks for doing this!!!

[@010falcon]

11:00 Both plates are poured. So no problem with cuping

[@isaacreicin4836]

I think i can hear Stefan. Oh i think i hear him saying "RIP my speed boat"

[@bikeninja956]

thanks for making this thorough video, this looks like a great budget printer project. Definitely putting it on my list. My question is, what would be the best budget circuit board or electronic systems to use? The Duet seems a little expensive and high end for the average user.

[@TimWhitby85]

lol - "How old is Tom? Too old!..." then proceeds to say he's turning 30. Young! :p

[@powersv2]

Speed boat race inspired me to build a voron.

[@Calebs.bowling]

I love kit printers and will be building a prusa i3 mk3s+ kit soon Also I’m thinking about doing this in the future and putting an e3d supervolcano on it with a hardened steel to print fast and strong functional parts sacrificing detail Also2: Just finished assembling my prusa kit and love it

[@jleadbetter29]

Little late to the party.... Viewer: Why are you slow? Tom: Why are you here? Love it!

[@Sidbarret2223]

Mind sharing the website you got that nice shining build plate. Been trying to find a good one like that for my other printer thanks.

[@whatyoudo9773]

you are probably aware but dont stress the ball-end of the hex wrench it can snap

[@The_Unobtainium]

Is there something wrong with BTT Octopus 1.1 that you decided to use 5 times more expensive Duet?

[@RyanNeufeld]

ES121 or ES120 are both great options for M3 fasteners.

[@jasonwoody8041]

So the screw heads are hooking onto the backside of the extrusion like a t nut would?

[@The2KingsProduction]

Do you think if someone wanted to attach the top gantry to a different printer that the gantry could be flipped over 180 degrees and still work?

[@JaerderSousa]

I'm thinking of building one, I don't know if its better to buy the parts over time, or to get a kit in one go (since from what I've read, building a voron can get quite expensive)

[@billbones8007]

Moin, ich baue schon seit 2 Wochen an einem Voron Zero - bin dabei viel langsamer als Du, dazu kommt noch, das vieles beim Zero sehr klein ist ;-)

[@MadeWithLayers]

Hah, mal schaun wer als erster fertig wird!

[@violentsense]

Interesting... how much will this build cost using branded parts (profiles, rails, motors)? $5K?

[@jgiuguigiugigiugugiuuig4050]

Speaking of overengineered printers, sad the DICE never made it into a live sream built.

[@MadeWithLayers]

Maybe one day!

[@wolfgangmauer7970]

Everyone builds a Voron, why not try something like a BLV mgn Cube?

[@AndyonTour]

Hallo, wo hast du die STL Datein her? Liebe Grüße

[@pocketvelero]

How much did this build cost in total?

[@carstenschmied8455]

Link to buy the kit? What kit is it? vrbought? I pronounced it in a way that was difficult to understand.

[@restholzjunkie]

When is the next Stream? Yesterday I found it very late. Hope that I can finish my Legacy this Weekend. All made myself, not KIT.

[@MadeWithLayers]

Tomorrow! I'll try and stick to a "every other day" schedule.

[@ensuens]

Is there a Voron 2.4 complete kit for sale yet?

[@MadeWithLayers]

The Formbot kit I'm using is basically complete - sans 3D printed parts. I'm just substituting a couple of parts for nicer versions.

[@jkepps]

Great build series. What model of video switcher are you using?

[@MadeWithLayers]

I'm doing all the mixing / switching in OBS Studio - the cameras simply all hook up to Blackmagic capture cards and show up as individual sources in OBS. toms3d.org/my-gear#livestreaming-gear

[@jkepps]

@@MadeWithLayers thanks for the reply! I just got a Feelworld LivePro L1, so I was wandering if your setup used a similar device. Keep up the good work!

[@Dualecosse]

The can connectors are RJ11

[@florianrecktenwald548]

Hi,im about to buy a voron kit on aliexpress, should i go for fysec or for formbot?And why?

[@minitos1]

amogus

[@hobo_jojo]

amogus

[@hoppynaki]

Why do they drill so many holes in the Linear Rails when builders only use half of them?

[@964cuplove]

Binge watching this 3 months later - Gruß aus Milbertshofen

[@thomasandersen6572]

Do you offer your expertise b2b If we want to buy a finished similar build.?

[@rumenradkov6797]

Hi big fan of yours! What is outer dimension of the frame?

[@studiomiguel]

The longer I watch this... the dumber I realize I am. 😲

[@martincastellano89]

How much did you spend on all the parts?

[@trevormallow2788]

According to the formbot page the 300mm³ kit is $839US

[@tomsuica8731]

No matter what, when someone comments about safety when a person does something dangerous they always minimize the warning. 2:12:05 just a bit. of poison...

[@Dieselbird]

Could Anybody point me to the name of the intro song? Thanks :D Great video Thomas, I just finished building a custom design based off some voron aspects but at a much lower price point

[@MadeWithLayers]

www.epidemicsound.com/track/nauE3qLevI/ Future Joust - "Powerwalkin´"

[@scotttate1103]

Tom my husband is a computer engineer and we are thinking of getting into 3 d printing with a model train and Christmas lights framework product line. What is the best Prusa printer to start with which will allow for the greatest expandability?

[@evanlane1690]

It might be unlikely that he'll respond directly as this was streamed 6 months ago. If you're going Prusa, an i3 MK3s is the way to go if you're not strapped for cash. It'll be a good workhorse printer and if you do the kit it's pretty easy to assemble (not at all as difficult as this Voron build). The print profiles just work, and you can learn a lot about 3D printing without worrying about a junk printer making that learning curve longer and harder. Good luck! It's a lot of fun, and can be very rewarding. Teach yourself 3D modeling as you go too (free software: Fusion 360 for functional parts and Blender for artistic stuff like sculptures).

[@evanlane1690]

Oh! He did kind of answer your question at 2:19:43. I just got to that part of the stream. "The printer I go to when I just need to print something is the [Prusa i3] MK3."

[@smportis]

2:26:33 - Cover your eyes!

[@Stephen8454]

Where did we get the inspiration!? Are you kidding me!? This printer runs LAPS around the Prusa MK3S and nothing comes close!? Why!?

[@NebulasDH]

Interested in link to duet wiring loom for duet from the other company

[@parallaxxparallaxx8278]

Where did you get 3D printed parts? They are not included in the kit

[@MadeWithLayers]

The printed parts were from the Voron PIF (print-it-formward) project, printed by other Voron users. Bit of a queue currently, though: pif.voron.dev/

[@buas7]

where can you get the printed parts ?

[@TerryChipperfield]

It's suggested to print them in ABS, STL's available on the Voron website. If you can't print ABS then look into Voron PIF, community driven Voron legends will print the parts and ship them to you for a small fee, well worth it!

[@matthewdigiacomo8764]

what size is this bench youre working on

[@Gadget_Angel]

What is the Royobi Drill part number?, I can not find that cordless drill, do you have a link for the drill?

[@MadeWithLayers]

It's a R12DD-LL13S - though I'm not too stoke about its performance. It's okay for the price.

[@engineerathome8611]

Toolchanger in store?

[@MichalSchulz]

Even better for adjusting the printer bed is the feeler guide.

[@kettioriginal]

Hey, würde mir auch sehr gerne den 3d Drucker zulegen. Bin schon fleißig am drucken. Leider läuft der Link zum Foron Kit ins Leere. Kannst Du mir bitte mitteilen wo Du dein Kit her hast. Das wäre echt sehr hilfreich und nett. Danke schon mal. Gruß Jochen

[@MadeWithLayers]

Hey, am Handy könnte der Link Probleme machen, am PC funktioniert er hier einwandfrei. Gruß Tom.

[@kettioriginal]

Danke dir sehr. Und vielen Dank für deine guten Videos.

[@morgaj21]

Sadly, I have to buy all of my parts so will have to stick with my Ender 3!

[@ericralston78]

I know I am late on watching the build, but my question is. Would you rather have some of the 3d printed parts machined out of aluminum? And which ones would you recommend?

[@jakeradcliff5297]

Tom answers this exact question in part 2 of this build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnern2eJlKl-qMU

[@benupde1979]

I wonder how many people got the ‘same procedure as every year’ reference 🧐🤣

[@mikhailg3816]

Why didn't I use Spider?

[@Elec-DIY]

Thumbnail is sus

[@martin.ristal]

Do you know voron won't support mosquito+ hotend, and why not use klipper?

[@dragonfist]

wow, that kit is over 800$ !!!!!!!!!! is this printer really that good???? That is comparable with original Prusa i3?!

[@christophmuller3511]

It is a more capable printer than a Prusa, designed for ABS printing.

[@klschofield71]

@@christophmuller3511 I printed all the ABS parts for my Vorons on a Prusa MK3S+, not a single failed print, or warping of any sort.

[@F2_CPB]

Voron is better in pretty much every way.

[@marklandsaat3696]

I have a 2.4. Best 3d printer decision I’ve ever made..

[@nirodper]

@@F2_CPB it doesn't need much to be better than a prusa

[@rentaspoon219]

Damn missed it.

[@MadeWithLayers]

More to come!

[@hkravch]

Gummy bears are for kids, Voron breaks are mean to be taken with your favorite grown up beverage

[@MadeWithLayers]

Ok, I'll grab some tea for the next one

[@cahenr5045]

Hello,Tom. I am starting to "build" one with the same size, and because of the costs need to buy the kit in several parts. I've started by obtaining the frame extrusion kit from local supplier. I am checking the screws and T-nuts quantity and worry about the quantity that come with the kits obtained from Aliexpress. I seems to me that the M3x8 and T-Nuts used with rails and other parts that are attached to the extruders are not enough in quantity (number of holes into linear rails). Do you have the actual quantity used? Another question is about the use of M3 T-nut HNTAJ5-3 and M3 Hammer Head T-nut: where are used each? The assembly manual and the cad does not inform that. Thank you in advance.

[@hooorrpam1983]

Amongus

[@danestrader8285]

your first link to slice engineering is going to a 404 page fyi.

[@MadeWithLayers]

Fixed!

[@docpayce1]

Heeeeyyy, finally! Was looking forward for this! This means you will be looking into Klipper finally? Great!

[@ryangamble5131]

Nope, rrf for this voron. Sounds like he'll be building another one, maybe that'll be klipper.

[@guzzi85]

Finally you built a good printer :-)

[@bigtreetech5117]

Is it good idea I send you BIGTREETECH Octopus?

[@henrymusgrave4740]

It's a good idea you send it to me? Edit: hahaha kidding. I would love one though.

[@MadeWithLayers]

Thanks for the offer, but the Duet 3 for this build is already set in stone

[@TheTurboman2]

You might explain in your intro that this is not live once it is posted on KZbin. Live on June 1st 2021 is not live two years later. Wish there were more videos that discussed why one printer is better than another. We're trying to select a system for producing production parts using a material that doesn't shrink in a 120 degrees f environment. PLA and ABS shrinks. I'm told we need A higher temp printer and a proper filament in an enclosed environment. Your video reminds me of the old Heath Kit electronic projects you could buy and put every component together yourself. this was before the age of video so you referenced a thick instruction book.

[@PJ-ku5lp]

...goes through the whole build process saying "well they say to do this, but I think less is good enough." Why would you assume they've just added steps just to add steps?

[@feastyourbrain]

Because Tom is an actual professional engineer with more education and experience than most of the people who contributed to the Voron build guide. He has knowledge on a level that allows him to know when and where he can skip steps. Not to mention, he is the godfather of 3d printing education and most people in the 3d printing community started learning what they know from him first.

[@09lnt]

Great videos as always, terrible auto-focus. Can't even look anymore after some time, as my eyes hurt. Maybe you could do something about it?

[@MadeWithLayers]

Will try!

[@ALex-qc4lf]

Your rails are not greased :( They will suffer so much

[@ChrisEpler]

THREADLOCKER WARNING: DO NOT GET THIS ON YOUR ABS PARTS! You'll regret it. Treat it like kryptonite for ABS.

[@123bookra]

WHY NOT BLV MGN CUBE .?

[@MadeWithLayers]

Because this is a Voron

[@dennisbuns]

@@MadeWithLayers best reply ever.

[@FuturePerfectContinuous]

verpasst 😢