Was Stanley Kubrick killed? (Part 3) Seven alternate theories. Eyes Wide Shut. Rob Ager.

[@MrBattlestar10]

31:21 I'm shocked Rob. The point of the final scene where Ziegler explains she died of an overdose is an obvious lie to cover up what they did to her. The point of her character is that she gives herself up to save Bill's life.

[@itsamechrispratt380]

I feel like everyone's ignoring the most interesting possibility out of all of these: Think about it. Stanley Kubrick was a major filmmaker, world-renowed and admired by everyone....and yet he constantly tackled subjects that were (and still are) deemed controversial and potentially dangerous. I mean, you have: -Lolita, a film that condemns pedophilia and as Mr. Ager has already stated implies that things like these happen in Hollywood as well -Dr. Strangelove, where he mocked and exposed some major government secrets, like the fact that the US government had hired Nazi scientists to work for them after WW2, something that was still a secret at the time and that bizzarily enough I rarely see addressed when talking about the film -A Clockwork Orange, a film about government mind control experiments decades before the whole MK Ultra decable was even put into public consciousness -Full Metal Jacket, a critique of the brainwashing war machine that is the military And of course Eyes Wide Shut Now, my point is, this director had been making films about things that are supposedly high level government secrets decades before they were even ackowledged as conspiracy theories, he should've been assassinated 10 times over for exposong these secrets, and that leads me to one possibility that I haven't seen explored before: What if he was one of "them"? What if Stanley Kubrick was nothing but a pawn of the US government or whoever's in charge of these operations and they got him to "expose" exactly what they wanted him to expose? After all we know so little about his life, everything about it (including his death) is shrouded in so much darkness and ambiguity, all we know is that he spent a good portion of it making highly provocative and supposedly exposing films and barely got a slap in the wrist for it (at leats when compared to being threatened or even murdered) I mean, imagine if the government (any government really, they're all just as ruthless when it comes to protecting their interests) had some sort of secret that they absolutely didn't want to get out....and you, as a director, made a movie about it. You'd be dead in a matter of days lmao And yet, this guy made a career out of it for decades and everyine was just fine with it. Very fishy.

[@Phillip-n3g]

And the shining a movie about child sexual abuse ,before it became a big deal... people do become possessed by dark forces and act insane and do insane things.

[@collativelearning]

Sure, I've heard the theory before that he was "one of them". I forgot to put that one in the vid actually, though it doesn't relate to his death. The problem is ... there's no evidence for it. When I was researching Dr Strangelove I found that all the info he needed to understand all those details about the cold war were already public. The CW think tank groups were publishing their views and strategies, even the enemy was able to read them and adopt the same strategies. It was so farcical and Kubrick included that in his movie. With secret societies too, you can find out tons of stuff without being a member. I can tell you details about masonic initiations that were told to me by several former members whose stories matched up (these are people I've met and known in person, not online anonymous claimants). I even learned from these ex-members what some of their meeting venues are here in Liverpool. not just Masons, but organizations like Common Purpose. Kubrick was a good researcher with a lot of money, he was smart enough to figure things out without joining.

[@MrMjolnir69]

It's a good angle. They (yes, them) are BOUND to Cast Abroad exactly what they're about to do and/or have already been doing. And you ou didn't even mention the Moon stuff.....

[@SmithaRuth]

It's called predictive programming

[@daywalker48603]

"mention it, don't insist; Barzini's a man who'll know that without being told."

[@stewartstafford]

The Scientology angle is possible motive, added to the fact that Kubrick, a world-famous filmmaker, was making a film about someone exposing a cult and he now had an axe to grind against a real-life one. The Larry Celona thing is mind-blowing, talk about hiding in plain sight (eyes wide shut? Is Larry Celona's brother called Sylvester? I think Kubrick's dog Roswell bumped him off myself. From the grassy knoll, obviously.) What works against the conspiracy is that Kubrick was 70 years old, not in great health and pretty much a recluse by then who would be hard to get to. We'll probably never know the truth, but it is interesting to toss the conspiracy salad now and then and see what shakes loose. As Philip K. Dick once said: "Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you." (I hope they don't come for you too Rob for shining a light on the conspiracy and use your willing suicide statement in this video as a cover story. Just saying. It was once said that pop would eat itself, the conspiracy community is a snake swallowing its own tail. Viddy well!).

[@tedmac8049]

Hi Rob, thanks for your work, would love to see a vid on ‘The Killing’

[@jackb5384]

The Paul Thomas Anderson movie Magnolia includes a dying man using oxygen bottles next to his bed. Weirdly, this is another 1999 movie staring Tom Cruise, and aparently Anderson first met Cruise on the set of Eyes Wide Shut. Im not sure if this is just a coincidence, but it's an interesting thing to note.

[@collativelearning]

lol interesting.

[@bingerz237]

Tom Cruise's character is introduced with Also sprach Zarathustra playing, and the quiz kid boy genius in the film is named Stanley.

[@miltonbates6425]

It would be interesting for a journalist to do some investigative work and find out who were the largest shareholders in Warner Brothers Discovery, Inc. at the time of Kubrick's death. They tend to have a direct line to the executice offices and an outsized amount of influence over corporate firing decisions, above and beyond voting on proposals.

[@collativelearning]

There's no evidence that shareholders viewed the film though.

[@Mikenoronha]

@@collativelearning True, but they could've been informed by the executives at the screening on the contents of the film. I'm wondering who exactly was behind the firings and what the reasons were.

[@collativelearning]

@@Mikenoronha No one was fired to my knowledge. Semel and Daly announced they wouldn't be renewing their contracts at the end of the year, but according to reports there was prior shareholder unrest due to a string of poorly performing movies spanning several years before EWS was completed.

[@joeybrisk1869]

Great series sir

[@Mreffs101]

My view is Kubrick made his movies for three different sorts of people. He understood his audience and was wise enough to understand his viewers would fit into one of three categories: those that understand the bigger picture he was illustrating, those that pick up a few things here and there but have minimal understanding of his work, and those that are simply watching his movies to be entertained for a few hours. In that way, those who are examining his death are the same. Some grasp the bigger picture and its significance, some pick up a few pertinent details but miss the bigger picture, and others simply look at it as an old, sickly man passing away.

[@pathkeepers]

To your point at 42:00 that was suggested by South Park in the 9/11 episode. The government was covering up the fact that they had incompitently let 9/11 happen by making people believe it was the most perfectly executed conspiracy in history.

[@qurioclask]

You must be aware that the scene with the Marie Richardson / the grieving daughter character was already shot with Jennifer Jason Leigh and then subsequently reshot: AI quote: Jennifer Jason Leigh was originally cast in Eyes Wide Shut (1999) as Marion Nathanson, the daughter of the deceased patient at the beginning of the film. She even filmed her scenes, but due to scheduling conflicts with Existenz (1999), director Stanley Kubrick had to recast her role. Marie Richardson replaced her, and the scenes were reshot. Leigh later expressed regret over missing the opportunity to be part of Kubrick’s final film but acknowledged that the situation was beyond her control.

[@twcc406]

Excellent, time for a cup of tea and an excuse to settle down and listen to Part 3.

[@derbymixer]

Mr Ager give up your Inquiries which are completely useless and consider this a second warning. We hope for your own good, that this will be sufficient. Fidelio, Mr Ager, Fidelio..

[@ceebee491]

Wtf?! Troll

[@chrislawuk]

LOL! If Rob frickin’ Ager was willing to shill, Collative Learning would be roughly the size of Sony Pictures at this point.

[@collativelearning]

Hadn't thought of that ... should I sell out? ;)

[@chrislawuk]

Don’t you dare! We need you more than ever.

[@erikhouston]

The financial incentive for them to float the director dies after executive screening makes a lot of sense. Again great video series… it’s nice to see a more nuanced approach to this nexus of pop culture and conspiracy

[@bilbob7624]

i think Rosa, the maid, got orders to put something in Lou Nathanson's Food.

[@YarmouthBotanicals]

Thank you Rob! I always look forward to your content.

[@ArthurNiculitcheff]

In 2005 i was walking in soho london at night and bumped into a guy standing in the door of a sex shop talking to a woman. I said sorry, he said it was alright, and i kept on my way. A guy on a bike passing by slows to my speed and asks me all impressed if i know who i bumped into, i say i don't, and he reveals to me it was stanley kubrick. So i guess he faked his death after all.

[@collativelearning]

It was me on the bike. I was trolling you ;)

[@drew_gordon]

Stanley Kubrick believed that aeroplanes had souls. I just made that up.

[@ceebee491]

😅

[@vladimirroman4011]

My theory is that considering how perfectionist Stanley was, he probably overworked himself to death.

[@BlackJesusChrist666]

Yes, Occam's razor.

[@camtinley]

Stanley didn't set deadlines. He finished his movies in his own good time. He never rushed anything. He looked after himself and lived a pretty normal life outside of making his movies.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

To your point about people assuming you "don't know the lingo" - I think it just speaks to your presentation style; balanced, informed, insightful... words which are, rightly or wrongly, not often associated with the online conspiracy world I think the mainstream assumption is that "sensible" people aren't conspiracy theorists The unnamed virus of unknown origin did a lot to shake that though, thankfully

[@CuriosityTheorist]

Cpunterargument to point number one by theorists would be that they believe I'm karmic retribution, meaning they have to show us what they are doing to absolve them of karmic debt, and that is why they would allow it. And furthermore, there is nothing stopping them from going "this movie is already made, we can't not release it, it's too suspicious. But Stanley's gotta go. Who knows what he'll do next, he's clearly not on our side."

[@bassamatic]

I think Kubrick definitely knew something very dark, about important people. Although nobody would have believed him, he still put a lot of effort to leave something behind that will become obvious in the decades ahead...

[@BlustoyourRay]

Not to troll or be argumentative, but exactly why do you think that? From what I know, Kubrick was immensely private, did not go out and mingle with “the elites”, kept to himself in his country side home in England. I guess you can say he had his suspicions? I just can’t go all the way over to saying “he definitely knew”.

[@garethcoxmusic]

Translations of some of the billboards from Full Metal Jacket would suggest so. Eyes Wide Shut is no exposè of a particular group. It does expose how power and more importantly, control are related to sex in this world. With the majority of peoples eyes firmly wide shut to this terrible reality. I imagine the missing footage may have been to do with children.

[@garethcoxmusic]

I would add that facts that render ridiculous to some may to others stand as a beacon that the work of those who deal with this world in a particular fashion were left on display permanently. Anyone interested in power and control may enjoy reading Shadow Men by Dr. Anthony Napoleon PhD. The author is writing from life experience. One thing that stuck with me from the book. There are people in positions of power today who are so "satanic" they would rather eat human feices than a bowl of healthy salad. Funny and terrifying, albiet true.

[@collativelearning]

@@garethcoxmusic Key word there regarding your missing footage assumption, "imagine". If you see pt 2 of this vid, I debunk the missing footage theories extensively.

[@garethcoxmusic]

It is the key word to any of these theories. Maybe somebody powerful just wanted to kill him. Free will.

[@nikolasincorporated]

Wow this was good to wake up to 😅

[@FracturedParadigms]

What do you mean?

[@sn0_]

you need to make a video on the letter theory if you havnt already in one of the last scenes cruises daughter is led off by two men and both cruice and kidman never look around to find where she went.

[@opencurtin]

Its based on a 1926 book novella Dream by Arthur Schnitzler set in modern times , thats all folks .lol

[@morriganwitch]

Critical thinking is an essential Skill

[@JCGomez-f2e]

There is an interview in a YT Channel called "Film Courage" with the editor of the final cut. Interesting since he doesn't mention anything about his death but he explains the cutting process after SK's death.

[@BenDowdy]

I wonder if Coppola's Megalopolis might be a similar kind of opus.

[@agesflow6815]

I hope Mr. Ager will cover that film soon.

[@BullyMaguire4ever]

Lol. No. The best review I have seen of Megalopolis was “It’s like watching the last functioning neurons firing in the dementia riddled brain of a once great mind.”

[@tomqelectronica]

been waiting for this

[@Gnardonic096]

Rob, for some reason your vids never have the subs / cc option.

[@oliviergagnon2592]

I believe Kurbick has probably been in touch with a lot of sensitive info while researching for the movie. He was very very intense for his film preparation. Doesnt mean people would want to kill him. All kind of info and scandal come out every year so I guess it always have been around and will forever be.

[@edwardmulholland7912]

You are a hard man to pin down Rob lol. I like that. EWS weaves a powerful spell. Excellent video, very thought provoking.

[@eliterule1292]

Thank you for this 3 part series ager its one of my favorites from you now

[@ccsaunas]

I’d love to know your opinion on 9/11 considering the science and your past research in “conspiracies”.

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

I suspect that for many of "our" generation; 9/11 is what did it

[@charlieg347]

Bro getting into the conspiracy theory game 💵

[@user-hn1sw4cf7x]

Redrum

[@armandoguerra7658]

V of vendetta is the most hardcore predictive programming movie, it is so blatant that if you see that movie and pause it when documents with dates and info appears, your mouth will be on the floor

[@collativelearning]

Be careful with that "predictive programming" term. That one has been flying around the conspiracy community for near 20 years. Ironically the community has been "programmed" by the term. They end up viewing movies that are trying to inform them as movies trying to program them.

[@armandoguerra7658]

@ it “predicted” the most heavy recent event dealing with a deadly virus, a medical center built specifically to create said virus, the dates align perfectly with c-19, all involved became high ranks in this government, wealthier than most due to their participation in the experiment, curfews…..hard to dismiss it was all scripted to happen just as portrayed in the movie. Also the 1984 similarities make it more than resonant in this context of contemporaneous moment in history.

[@collativelearning]

@@armandoguerra7658 Once again you assume an advance parallel in fiction can be nothing other than part of the conspiracy. A lot of the time people see things coming because the clues are there and public in advance. I see a lot of things coming myself because i don't just get my info from the media or forums. I read think tanks and policy documents which often explicitly outline things that parts of the establishment want to do in the future. So if I give you warning about it doesn't mean I'm trying to "predictive program" you. Ironically, your belief closes you off to positive messages from peoiple trying to help you, you end up viewing them as your overlords. It's a very disempowering world view.

[@armandoguerra7658]

@@collativelearning if it was a “warning” or a way to convey information to be prepared and “prevent it” as you try to put it, the outcome leaves much to be desired. Nothing was prevented, it ended even worse than what appeared in the movie, no “hero” tried to do jack to prevent it or fix it after the fact, and those who didn’t follow the script were severely punished. The proof is in the pudding, if you think those who rule over us want our best, or have interest in anything other that their own gain and control of power, you are being the perfect instrument to dissipate any proof that may take them out of that comfort zone of absolute power without any responsibility. I am not a cynic nor a pessimist, but I can’t stand here and dismiss all the proof that points to the worst of the worst of us in this world, reaching the highest ranks of everything that has a direct impact in all of our lives, in the present, and the future.

[@ZeroTravity]

@@collativelearning Are these "googleable" think tanks? I have become increasingly interesting in Kubrick and your channel is easily the best. Thanks for the great analysis and insights

[@gavinhind2391]

Hi I have recently become a subscriber to your channel. Fascinsting insight and content. Alot of hard work I appreciate it, but what is your take into all the misinformation (truth mixed with lies) I have no mentsl illness, time n time again most big conspiracies actually turn out to be true. Be interesting to know your view on that mate thanks? You looked into the moon landings and the real chance it was filmed by kubrick?... Possibly forced to do it.

[@collativelearning]

The moon landing issue is covered later in this vid. Yes, some big conspiracies turn out to be true, but some turn out to be false as well.

[@gavinhind2391]

​@collativelearning thanks for your response yes agreed. 👍

[@objectiveincision3970]

Hey Rob, why did you take down that video articulating your superior storyline to Alien Romulus? Please re-upload it! It's sooooo entertaining (.. not necessarily the way you may think). Love the Androids with 4 arms (instead of 2) .. not to mention the millions of years timeline! 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣🤣

[@collativelearning]

It's still available on my site. I took lots of vids that the algo wasn't recommending to anyone and unlisted them, but the links are still available on my site. I've noticed this approach improves overall algo. Wish it weren't like that though.

[@siecheil]

why would they tell you you are their slaves when they can convince you youre free. community tax? "TV tax"? lol theyre a 'pay us for the right to exist' tax

[@myman3879]

Thanks for these vids. Very good. Check out 'The Hidden Hand'

[@lolmaorofl]

Your defensive retorts and snarky replies to some comments in your previous video didn’t help. I think being sympathetic or understanding to alternative thinking that goes against your bias would go a long way

[@BullyMaguire4ever]

Calling people idiots if they even consider a conspiracy is lame as hell. But I guess it depends on the conspiracy. Flat earth is truly dumb, but that one is easily disproven with simple experiments.

[@120.V]

subtitles 😭internet works all over the world, thx

[@jordanwillrog]

Here come the views mate

[@HeavyMetalSonicRM]

No, they're still brothers.

[@jeffez6572]

Part 2 showed this host is apart of the conspiracy and most likely Illuminati, but could also be a lizard alien🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@collativelearning]

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ColinoSpasm]

Bunny ears. Please stop.

[@SethCekala]

Can anyone say the moon landing??

[@collativelearning]

There's a section in the vid on that.

[@shaggycan]

Stanley didn't exactly die in his sleep. He was in bed, might have been asleep, but he woke up and couldn't get to his oxygen bottle. Basically he woke up, was having an attack and couldn't reach his oxygen bottle and died.

[@collativelearning]

Your source for that?

[@guidinhorusso9905]

​"It came to me in a dream"

[@NuPunX]

I can refute all your theses against Kubrick's murder in just a few sentences: In the course of staging the moon landing, Kubrick was given a golden ticket by Warner Brothers with complete, artistic freedom. This allowed him to direct films such as Clockwork Orange and, in particular, Eyes Wide Shut. With the latter, however, he went too far. You usually do clean research work, so I just don't understand why you're keeping your eyes wide shut in this case.

[@collativelearning]

That's a bed time story you tell youself. As with every anonymous poster I've encountered who claims that narrative (yes, I've heard it before) you provide no evidence.

[@TwistVisuals]

If this was true, they wouldn't have even released Eyes Wide Shut

[@CuriosityTheorist]

Exactly. And just because they released it as is OR edited after it was already done, doesn't mean they also couldn't have killed him because they were sick of his antics.

[@gabedom_]

Kubrick WAS given a golden ticket. He started to put on weight due to all the free Wonka candy WB granted him.

[@TwistVisuals]

@@gabedom_ I assume his weight gain is just his age and intense work life, giving not much room for exercise. As you get older it's harder to stay thin.

[@SLINKLYDLINKLY]

Israel killed JFK, they definitely got Kubrick too 😂