Was this Scotland's Greatest General? ...The Marquis of Montrose

[@angriella]

Hell of a man, Montrose! Can't help but like the guy, his poetry, his grief at Charles's murder, the way he brazenly outfaced death..make a great movie!

[@amandagraham4254]

Thanks again, from a Graham. Sending love from Canada 🇨🇦

[@TheSamGrahamShow]

I am actually related to them! 😊 All hail the Graham’s! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@robbiethepict2783]

Where I live there is the Gordon stone where The Marquis of Montrose won the battle but lost his best general who died defending him when he was pulled from his horse. You can see the musket and cannon marks on the bridge to this day.

[@alecgraham8752]

He wasn't called the Great Montrose for nothing ! Proud of my heroic ancestor - a general, a poet, a hero - definitely Scotlands greatest general

[@lukemillette3271]

We have a common ancestor

[@kedwardsuwo]

@@lukemillette3271 Family reunion. :) Guess he was my 12th great grandfather which is why I looked this up. That's pretty far back.

[@lukemillette3271]

That's awesome I didn't know I had more family

[@kedwardsuwo]

@@lukemillette3271 I assigned my students to construct a small family tree as an introduction to reasoning about social networks. Of course I did the assignment too, but went completely down a rabbit hole.

[@lukemillette3271]

Lol that is awesome, what do you teach

[@allanmackenzie958]

We must be telepathetic...This historical character is one of my favourites. Great video. It also so happens its next on my reading list. A great man, loyal to a fault betrayed by those to whom he gave immense service to.

[@Kiltoonie]

also a Turncoat...

[@michaelwhite8031]

I think Montrose is my favourite historical character, he is like someone out of a Greek myth. His personal bravery and honour l believe make him stand head and shoulders above men of his time and for that matter most times. The way he behaved when he faced his execution silenced his haters. Thanks for making this video and l really look forward to more about him. Respect !!! When you want an early hero who never seems to get mentioned you would not have to look further than Andrew Murray.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Who's that then? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWS3haGuj6ipZqs

[@michaelwhite8031]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Well done, l did not see that.

[@stufromoz8164]

"Fancy meeting you here, do ya want ta change sides"....."Auch orright"....have to love your historical perspective and analysys, if only all wars were so informally friendly and cordial.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😊

[@WynonaCosplay]

Thank you for these fantastic videos! I found out who this great man was through genealogy research, and I have been fascinated ever since. Scottish history is interesting to say the least. I look forward to your future uploads!

[@apachecatcat3495]

My Ancestor was named James Graham too. But he ended up in Tennessee in the late 1700s.

[@rivergirl3444]

My great grandmother was a Graham. In Kentucky.

[@saidahamelin3118]

Held my breath with this one. Delighted the Irish didn't let them down. Very well told!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😘

[@wexfordgirl1]

Oh I just love the addition of the troop maneuver indicators Bruce. That's really helpful and great viewing.

[@owenhopkins9192]

im autistic and I watch your videos when in down they help me so much love from northumbria aka northern england

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Wow Owen. I'm so happy that I might help in some small way. That brings a tear to my eye

[@JOOLZBRUTNELL]

Hi Bruce - thank you for doing these video's of the history of Scotland . My mother who is 83 is so grateful for these little films as she can't visit Scotland and you take her on journeys all around Scotland , telling true tales about its past :)

[@jessicasmith4532]

I've always had a soft spot for Montrose!

[@gymynycricket1722]

Would that be when he was murdering women and children covenanters or when he was a covenanter

[@andrewwalker9830]

Montrose has been my hero ever since I picked up a Nigel Tranter on the great Marquis from a jumble sale just outside Ayr.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Quite agree ,Max Hastings has written a great book about the Marquis of Montrose ....The Kings Champion....E

[@racheltaylor6578]

I was brought up in Kilsyth.The battlefield is under Banton Loch now but you can still imagine the highlanders charging down the hills surrounding the Loch.

[@PixelMurder]

I like Scotish history and I find the accent charming. I think I'm in the right place.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Definitely

[@paulprice929]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours do a video of Simon Fraser Lord Lovat who helped the jacobite uprising and the last man to be beheaded in UK he died laughing his head off.

[@dougkleen9917]

Montrose toast " he either fears his fate to much, or his desserts are small, who will not put it to the touch to win or lose it all"

[@geowidman]

That "Highland Charge" seem exactly like the Jacobite tactic at Culloden - but with better result on better terrain. Thanks for a fine tale!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

That's the point. It WAS the same tactic. It's just that this was the first time it was deployed in Scotland

[@craig8542]

20 plus years ago, on a Burnsian tour of Edinburgh , we visited St Giles. Amongst our party were several men very learned in Scots history. After some very interesting observances of the stained glasses, one said "let's visit The Montrose". We entered the room (I'm sure there is a better word in cathedral speak) and it is breathtaking. One of our party, who had been head of history at my high school started to speak about the Marquis and his achievements. Also present was a party of American tourists who hung on his every word, particularly when Tom announced that West Point still taught the tactics and strategies of Montrose to that day. I will never forget the moment enhanced by the fresh white rose on the tomb. My first comment as a patreon of Bruce, I will try to keep them shorter going forward !! Great work big man!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Guid lad

[@yvonnehadad7818]

thx for the details you shared, I'm Scottish \Netherlands mix Australian! Have worked in London, travelled overland around Europe, Middle east & Israel, spent many holidays in Asia and New Zealand..... but not Scotland ..xx

[@mariapierce2707]

Just found you and subscribed ! yaay! glad I did! Well done very informative.😉

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Welcome aboard!

[@frankiedeans7637]

Yes he was without doubt the greatest fighting general Scotland has produced.He was also a brilliant poet ..He was recognised and awarded by many other European nations for his fine generalship. Died a hero's death. A must read is from the famed Scottish authour NIGEL TRANTER his two excellent biographies on this honorable gentleman life and ultimate death are truly memorable and touching. Fine work again Bruce..ggtthb.

[@flashcad8185]

John Buchan's biography "Montrose", a gift from my Mother on my ninth birthday, was responsible for my life-long interest in James Graham and the Wars of the Three Kingdoms. As you would expect, both Tranter's novels, "The Young Montrose" and "Montrose: The Captain General" are extremely well done, and bring mid-17th century Scotland to life.

[@eamonnclabby7067]

The Kings Champion is worth a look ,by Max Hastings....

[@stephenjones5366]

One of history's more creative military tacticians. Some of the stuff he pulled off was just...off the wall.

[@JimLahey21]

Excellent work as usual

[@graham22jacob]

i came to your page for scotish history, didnt think id find history on my ancestors. thanks!!

[@jocelyngarvin188]

I'm clan Graham, and I really like your series.

[@zaynevanday142]

Infantry vs Infantry, Cannon & Cavalry that is very very impressive !

[@kevingalloway9338]

Brilliant mate. Great story

[@paulrobertson1589]

As I walk my collie along Old Gallows Road I always thought the site was up by West Lambarkine Farm near Broxden . Thank you for this historical truth update Bruce . As a Robertson also it is great to hear there part onto the journey to Tippermuir . The drone shot looking east is terrific to explain the battle . Is that a churchyard in Methven ?

[@brendonjackson1859]

He is my 9th Great Grandfather! Just learned about my relationship with him today!!!

[@lukemillette3271]

I am related to James Graham and im trying to learn more about him thank you for the great vid

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Glad it was helpful!

[@faolanliath6687]

Brother,your videos rock. You've got a way of bringing the weirdness of history to life. There are a lot of great stories from the borders that we'd love to hear you do.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I plan to get down there in summer. Travel is always a constraint. In the meantime you have these kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioeQfICMjL2Nb8k kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioeQfICMjL2Nb8k

[@faolanliath6687]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Awsome! Ballads of Kinmont Willie and Wee Jock Ellot are clasics. Kinda funny too.

[@Haronniin]

"Fancy meeting you here! Do ya want ta change sides?" "Auch ooright." ROFL!! Beautiful summation. Succinct, to the point, and conveyed the heart of the conversation. Brilliant!

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Many thanks for sharing this with us, my ancestors O,Cahans served in O,Cahan, s regiment of foot ,in the present day my great uncle Henry O,Cahan served with the Royal Ulster Rifles on the river Imjin in Korea and survived being a POW and made it back to Ireland, my uncle Archie was a Mc Donald of Glencoe Best wishes from the wirral...E

[@revolver_84]

Quality video. Well researched and really clearly explained

[@billdavidson3519]

Mr. Fummey; You keep hitting them out of the park! A difficult topic to make clear in a short video. Well Done! Sincerely

[@jameshalfpenny4726]

“These fannies don’t know what they’re doin”.........Lucy Worsley could learn a phrase or two from our Bruce.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I'm here to lead trends

[@richardglady3009]

The battle graphics were very good and understandable. Thank you.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

Marvelous and eye-opening as always, sir! Keep this up, and yourself will be one of Scotland's leading tourist attractions.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂😂😂 Is that a reference to my girth😜

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours I wouldn't have the guts to waist you time woth that. Question, though; how about one about James V? The one with the secret identity? There is precious little about him compared to the other Stewarts; he is usually presented as a footnote to his daughter.

[@janhenkins]

The bit between 1:33 to 1:43 had me in stitches. Subscribed! (To be clear, subscribed to this channel, not that waste of trees you spoke about.)

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂 No that's no worth a subscription

[@AJM-timecop]

Would love to hear your take on the attack on Inverlochy Castle ... going over Ben Nevis in February, the 36 hour march. Fascinating stuff. The battle is still taught at Sandhurst!

[@skywatergarage]

When doing ancestry work I have found articles of my ancestors on montrose side. I would love to see a video on “clan Hay” from you Bruce. Your story telling is 1 of a kind.

[@JakeGraham88]

We dug back the history of my family. Find it all so fascinating. Ne Oublie. Both my brother and me got the coat of arm tattoo'd onto us.

[@frankhancock2881]

Bruce definitely make the case for Montrose

[@stufromoz8164]

I am always reminded of master Yodas answer to the term "Great warrior" .War does not make anyone great. How true, there is never a good side and a bad side, just different opinions usually only seperated by several degrees of perspctive , at the most.

[@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319]

WW1&2 definitely had a bad side.

[@jedaye47]

@@thepinkflamingostrikesagai7319 who was the bad side in WW1? It was a war of imperialism, not humanitarianism.

[@TheAegisClaw]

WWII had a bad side and a more bad side. Seriously look up some of the allied bombing campaigns, Dresden, firebombing of Tokyo, let alone the nuclear bombs. Horrific.

[@silverbullet8338]

Love your channel man. Interesting from start to finish.✌

[@jeremiahkivi4256]

Most excellent. Keep up the good work! Not very familiar with what was going on in Scotland during the English Civil War. Always a good morning when I can learn some history with my coffee and pipe.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Daily Mail Sir?😂😂

[@jackmclaughlin2020]

This video is an overdue acknowledgement of genius. Montrose was a master of the war of maneuver. It is unfortunate that he has never received the renown outside of Scotland that his mastery deserves. The Year of Miracles is much better movie material than any of Hollywood's recent attempts to interpret Scottish history. John F. Kennedy was rumored to be reading Buchan's "The Marquis of Montrose" around the time of his death. I wonder if JFK realized what a great idea it was to infiltrate a small force into a hostile country, recruit, train and lead a (more or less) indigenous army against a constituted government or occupying power? Someone should specialize in that type of thing.

[@1776patric]

Mr. Fummey, I should also add that I have greatly enjoyed your KZbin videos. I find them educational and funny. I think that you found your calling, The Storyteller. I have never met a funny financial planner! Good Luck in the future. I shall continue to enjoy videos. Patrick Gordon, Mexico

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂Thank you Paatric

[@TheAdventuringFoodie]

Another solid video, Bruce! And, I appreciate your nuggets of worldview as you delve deep into the treasure-trove of history!

[@douglasmacquarrie5002]

Really enjoy the stories thanks this was a good one

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Thanks for listening

[@caireengraham]

Thank you

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

You're welcome

[@madelinebrasmer1834]

Hi Bruce! I believe 3RD MARQUIS SIR JAMES GRAHAM OF AIRTH AND MONTROSE was my 10th great grandfather. How can I learn more?? Thank you for your fun videos!! 😊

[@kerrypitt9789]

Nobody will probably read this, but gosh tapping on the thumbs up takes an actual second and helps Bruce out as well as giving incentive to make more videos. Bruce how do you do this without living in bitterness and anger. I have to believe that people could have lived with PTSD all of their lives, just with the potential for violence every day, how did they do it? How do you do it? Could this anger I live with be inherent? Is it possible to inherit anger and outrage?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I read this, though I'll be honest I didn't 100% understand it😂

[@johnspizziri1919]

Very well done!

[@sharktomesmiles]

I really love the vid. I have a left field question! You are in an old church grave yard, but there are new headstones? I would like to learn about this place too and it's grave yard. So much history!!! Oh so little time Eh?

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

The church stopped being used in my lifetime and folk can still be buried there. The Building itself was where they filmed the witch trial in Outlander

[@charlestaylor8566]

Behind every historical hero there was a unsung hero that gave them there fame , De Moray was Wallace’s , James Douglas was Bruce’s , and Alister McOlla Was Montrose’s !

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Fair point

[@chrisgibson5267]

Anothet great presentation and the aerial view of the battlefield was a very nice touch. The Irish Brigade likely picked up the use of the salvo ( Swedish salvee) from their service on the Continent. PS There's a scurrilous rumour that they had a number of men from Englandshire in one of their companies as English Recusants also fought for the Spanish and Imperialist armies.

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

Great channel. New subscriber.

[@Marcus_McCormick11]

Doing my bit for the algorithm

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I like your style Marcus

[@annbush1826]

This was brilliant.I read "The King's Peace" and the King's War." Both described the dispositions of troops and skrmishes and strategy. As an American with MacRae ancestry, I knew the song "Bonnie Dundee" and that our clan was Royalist. Wih a grandpa who could recite Scott at the drop pf a tam, the IDEA of chivalrous knightly behavior was known to me. However, among those ancestors was a Revolutonary soldier who fought against the British. If you were to see the Hudson Valley in New York you would be as astounded as I was when visiting Scotland for the first time. The open fieldsand concentrated hatred and chessboard skill in this battle, compared with a Revolutionary soldier with his musket, powder horn and ramrod hidden in the thick woods.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂At first I read cheeseboard skill of a battle

[@RamboTuRkEy2224]

Fantastic video! I have a copy of his portrait in my man cave. Far too untold of a story

[@eamonnclabby7067]

Quite agree,sir

[@grahamehadden4320]

My Clan Chief. Let down by the crown in the end. I read the biography of him years ago and a tawdry affair was his end. There was supposed to have been a fight between the Haddens and the Davidson to see who was the superior Sept in the Graham clan out on the beaches beside Dundee. Would you know where I could look to find out the history of this wee skirmish. I think it was around the 17th to 18th century.

[@netowl3922]

@Scotland History Tours I've listened to The Battlefield Band since 1985 and always wondered about their song "Montrose". So when you make the case that the greatest military general, I believe you!!! :)

[@jvggraphics]

thank you for some long lost family history ...NeOblie!

[@nephilimborn]

You stole my comment lol

[@richard9444]

Hello brv , do one on lock oich, and the well of the seven heads, your stuff is amazing , regards Richard London 🇬🇧

[@robertmaceanruig6291]

You keep Goin Man

[@stuartjackson8091]

Alexander Leslie, David Leslie, John Hepburn, to name a few. The Irish were decedents Scottish galloglass, Antrim scots (just Gaelic one's)

[@eamonnclabby7067]

O ,Cahan, s regiment of foot ,my ancestors , still warriors to the present day, A great uncle Henry O,Cahan/ O Kane served with the Royal Ulster Rifles on the river Imjin in Korea against the Chinese, survived being a POW and made it back to Ireland....E

[@brodyrobertson8887]

Another great one Bruce! Love the battle videos. Maybe one day one on the Battle of Harlaw, Northeast vs. the west ⚔.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

😂😂😂As I read this I'm waiting for breakfast in the Aberdeen Altens Hotel on the way to making a video about Red Harlaw today

[@brodyrobertson8887]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours No way 😆 lol well looking forward to the video as always Bruce! Cheers 🍻

[@neilchristie7637]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours Good stuff, Maybe then Mortlach where Malcom The Destroyer won his first victory over the Danes, then up the road to Glenlivet where Gordon whipped Argyle plus plus plenty Whisky in upper Banffshire also illict still country

[@patmlaftr959]

Great info as always Bruce Was Montrose the guy who fought his last battle in kilsyth Aye you just said it lol brilliant minds keep it going bud Have a pic somewhere with a Montrose thing placed at the colizeum in kilsyth Just Doon the road Cheers brother 👌❤

[@neilgibson216]

I grew up in a place called Montrose, near Melbourne, Australia. Kilsyth is two miles down the road.

[@martinlindores8161]

Hey Bruce why not do a video of the history of Stirling castle and the surrounding areas

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

That's not one video, that's a series😁

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Find out about Scotland's greatest ever sea captain here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGWmhnpjjb2fjpI

[@joedex_9564]

Yess Montrose my home town

[@loyalpiper]

Another Scottish general who's worth looking at is sir John Moore durring the Napoleonic peninsular campaign where he saved the British army from obliteration at the cost of his own life.

[@armstronggermany2995]

He went to my school.

[@knicholson6003]

He’s got his own pub on Argyle Street, Glasgow lol

[@armstronggermany2995]

More great balanced history. Great Stuff again from Bruce. Did we Scots ever need an excuse to fight each other! Lot's of Scots in the 30 years war.. Drummond and Leslie come to mind.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Indeed

[@bigh9809]

Rethorical rather than factually accurate, if that sentence doesn't explain every politicians statement, I don't what would, love it Bruce. Great subject well presented, love the knowledge slán abhaile from celbridge Co, Kildare.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Cheers Big H

[@LibbyLibster]

Hi bruce,do you know any stories about border rievers? I read stories in an old book and it was exciting.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I plan to get round to them

[@jackobite68]

sir James hands down

[@1776patric]

Mr. Fummey, I have a story for you, Who was Scotland's Greatest General? Try General/ Admiral Patrick Gordon and his very interesting story including Scotland, Europe and Peter the Great's Russia. you'll find the story at the University of Abdeen. Thank you, Patrick Gordon, Mexico

[@jamesdeery5377]

He's been called the greatest General Scotland never had.

[@melissahensley9430]

My great great grandmother was a descendant of his. She was a very strong strong woman and very stubborn

[@chakrahealing3575]

Sir John Graham 3rd Earl of Montrose born in Castlestead Castle, Montrose, Angusshire, Scotland, his wife Lady Jean Lillies Drummond, Countess of Montrose. Drummond Castle, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom are my 12th grandparents. My family up until my 3rd great grandmother are Drummonds.

[@thomassugg5621]

Talking about Scottish military history, I just finished reading about the battle of Brunanburh in 937. when an alliance of Scots, Dublin Vikings and Men of Strathclyde were defeated by king Athelstan of England.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Oooft, that was a bad yin right enough

[@PaulEcosse]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours They clearly just wurnae up for it.

[@Sandwich13455]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours have you a video on this battle?

[@bigblue6917]

You have to admire Athelstan abilities with that battle. Force marched his troops so that they turned up earlier than expected. Split his forces so that the other side could not re-enforce those he was attacking. And then attacked at dawn routing both armies.

[@douglasherron7534]

@@bigblue6917 The first King of Britain was quite a character...

[@jimdonaldson64]

hi, bruce another great video,what about major general hector macdonald . I think he was one of the first scots to hold this rank in the british army , an amazing feat but a sad ending .

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I've added his name to a growing list of requests

[@karrieweatherly9955]

I'm related to this man I just found out about it so I'm going to do some more research on it

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

He was a character

[@wexfordgirl1]

Do you have a coupon for Tippermuir Books?. If not you you want to get on that. I want to order the Perth &Ross Miscellany for our trip at least. Get them and National Trust to sponsor your channel Bruce. I've subscribed go both through you.

[@DH.2016]

The career of Glasgow born Sir John Moore may be another Scottish military man worth looking into.

[@davidadrain8656]

"He either fears his fate to much or the desserts are not enough to put it all into the touch to win or loose it all"

[@clanyoung14]

First ever use in mainland Scotland of the Highland charge? What about the Battle of Gasclune (often called the Raid on Angus) in 1395? This was, to my knowledge, the first ever record of a charge of the Highlanders. Look it up and you will see. Thanks. I enjoy your videos. Doug

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Couldn't have been a highland change in those days. No guns

[@par576]

Well you skimmed over it, Bruce, but Yes. Montrose did it in the face of adversity and with comparatively few resources. Do another one on him.

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Jesus! How much can I fit in to ten minutes?

[@par576]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours But you missed out the best bit. Where he chased Campbell into the sea!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

We haven't got to that bit yet

[@deborahcox7784]

Are ya preachin', Bruce!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I'm here for you sinners

[@dougkleen9917]

love your videos

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

Love you man!

[@martynmurray8927]

Silly question is that the Montrose that John Hurt played in Rob Roy 🤔

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

No, THAT Montrose was the guy who was the nemesis of Rob Roy. If I remember rightly this was his great grandad

[@martynmurray8927]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours ahhhh thanks again possible video in the future? 👀 smashing it with the videos as always SHT 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@greg_4201]

that's a hell of a way to pronounce Covenanters!

[@rschultz9492]

I've been wondering about this .. in Rob Roy they cast John Hurt as James Graham... Who doesn't even attempt a scotch accent in the film... His dialect sounds like RP or whatever the posh blokes use .. Am I off base here? Thanks in advance! You rock! Love the content!

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

It was a different guy

[@rschultz9492]

@@ScotlandHistoryTours thanks for the answer! Spiked my curiosity and off I went on a very satisfying deep dive. Good times. 🤘🧿

[@waltermacpherson3648]

I am a wee bit curious if you may be interested in doing a story of Cluny MacPherson of the '45?

[@tibulcain4904]

Clan Graham has a reputation for brilliant military leaders. Earl of Montrose who ultimately succeeded is one. And how could we forget the bonnie Lord of Dundee? Come to think of it, they're both known for "switching sides" too 😂😂😂

[@David-ho6mu]

You may call John Graham of Claverhouse as “Bonnie Dundee”, but just as many, if not more, would call him “Bluidy Clavers’ he was a vicious policeman who employed Irish mercenaries to hunt down his own Scottish countrymen and murder them in the name of his religious persecution and died defending an illegal cause and regime. He shot men in front of their pregnant wives and infant children, he hung women on posts for the tide to come in and drown them. He was thankfully killed in battle at Killiecrankie as a fugitive offending the legal government of Scotland. There is a long list of his crimes.

[@Sandwich13455]

@@David-ho6mu was he Presbyterian or Roman Catholic?

[@drewmorrison7536]

please do a video about the Morrisons

[@ScotlandHistoryTours]

I ask the questions. You guys supply the opinions

[@ChiefDean1]

My ancestor John Kincardine Graham Was born in Glascow in 1632 but Died in Armagh Ireland in 1698 . I always felt he was part of the Jacobite movement and was forced out of Scotland after thier defeat . Am I right in my thinking?

[@Iceman691984]

James Graham! My people!