Was Titanic Actually Unsinkable?

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

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[@ayToNic]

My niece calls this guy the "Titanic Man." Getting them started early

[@RedHoodedOgre-.-]

Never expose them too Jojos bizarre adventure

[@digitaal_boog]

Teach us the facts He’s the titanic man Teach us the fact’s tonight We’re all in the mood for some history And what really happened that night

[@merafirewing6591]

​@@digitaal_boog I get called that at school.

[@cleverusername9369]

​@@digitaal_boog I'm not a Billy Joel fan but this was pretty fucking brilliant, well done indeed

[@Darilon12]

Our friend, the Titanic Man.

[@MagiTailWelkin]

The Britannic just missed out of being unsinkable. The improvement meant she would have remained buoyant with six compartments flooded (if she remained motionless so not to stir the water). However the nurses had opened the portholes on the lower decks, against standing orders, causing more water than the ship could handle to rush in and spill over the higher bulkheads. There is no accounting for human error.

[@quillmaurer6563]

This also goes to show that the claims of post-rebuild Olympic being unsinkable were false as well, as Britannic sank in spite of the same upgrades. But, like you mention, that was with portholes open, at some point you have to attribute it to human error rather than design faults.

[@jamesharmer9293]

Why were the portholes openable ??

[@MagiTailWelkin]

@@jamesharmer9293 To air out the wards which were stuffy in the Aegean Sea.

[@kreiseltower]

@@jamesharmer9293 She was build to serve in the "cold" north Atlantic. And yet she was in service in the warm southern Mediterranen. And she had no air conditioning. So they opened the windows.

[@UnshavenStatue]

@@jamesharmer9293Air quality inside, which to be fair, on a medical ship with sick/injured patients aboard, air quality can absolutely have a material impact on their recovery and health, so in the nurses' eyes, they may well have merely been acting in the best interests of their patients. After all, what do captains and admirals know about medical practice? (Just playing the devil's advocate here.)

[@jetsons101]

The "Titanic Newspaper Boy" at 1:33 was Ned Parfett. I found the following online: "That boy was Ned Parfett and his short life was no less spectacular, and his death just as tragic, as that of Titanic. Six and a half years after this poignant photograph was taken, Ned was killed during a German bombardment while serving with the British army in France, just days before the Armistice. He was 22." Thanks to Mike for his HARD work and time........................

[@jetsons101]

Funny, I just wondered about it and searched "Titanic newspaper boy" and there it was.......@denniswilson8013

[@giantidiot31]

Bro you're hurting me. Stop it. I just wanted a link to like an interview from the 70s where they ask him about the photo...

[@maxonite]

That is heartbreaking actually

[@tturi2]

ww1, a war just to have a war, in my opinion

[@jetsons101]

It all started with a wrong turn and that teenage Serbian nationalist that provided the spark for the "Great War To End All Wars." @@tturi2

[@mikehenson819]

It good to know that after the Titanic disaster, Bruce Ismay admitted his delusion about the ships design, and showed great humility to the contrary. Great job again Mike! You never fail to impress.

[@glauberglousger6643]

One ship that comes to mind as unsinkable is the Great Eastern, Not actually unsinkable, but for 1850’s, definitely so, and she took quite a lot, from explosions, to rocks I’d honestly love a replica to be built, but that’d be a bit large

[@HrLBolle]

A video detailing how Isambard Kingdom Brunel came to design and have her built and of course her ultimate fate. Produced in Mr. Bradys impeccable style and narration

[@Randomstuffs261]

I have a long list of ships I want replicas of lol. Great Eastern is definitely among them

[@kikuaviation3878]

Not to mention the inexplicable banging sounds heard coming from within the hull, leading many to believe she was haunted!!!

[@rabbitramen]

You're right, Great Eastern was designed by Isambard Kingdom Brunel to be literally a ship within a ship. She had a double skin from the keel up as well as watertight subdivision. Her safety design was proven when she struck a submerged rock outside of New York harbor. She listed a little from a huge opening larger thanTitanic's 12 square foot initial damage, but she was in no danger of sinking. The engineers were able to build a cofferdam to rivet plates over the hole and had the ship back on her way after a considerable time. It puzzles me as to why Andrews and his team didn't employ this technology that was over 60 years old in 1912.

[@fred6319]

@@rabbitramen $$$$

[@ryano.5149]

Worth noting that Titanic likely faired better than any other liner afloat at the time would have. Take a ship like the Empress of Ireland for example and her manually-operated watertight doors. The Olympic class might not have been unsinkable, but they WERE arguably the safest ships yet built up to that point in history. They were state of the art!

[@michaelbujaki2462]

The Costa Concordia hit a rock and sank in fifteen minutes.

[@cpnquack]

I would say that yes, for the time, and with all the care towards safety for the Titanic, she was "unsinkable".. With a few rare cases. Unfortunately for her, she ran into a worst case scenario with the iceberg, rendering her safety measures useless. This would prompt ship builders from here on out to build ships ready to handle the worst, and would end up saving countless lives. All thanks to the Titanic becoming the world's harshest lesson in ship design.

[@quillmaurer6563]

It's like anything in safety - we can protect against foreseeable circumstances. Titanic was designed to survive any situation that had been encountered before, and thus was unsinkable as far as anyone knew. But she ended up with the misfortune of scraping against an iceberg just right to defeat that, in a way nobody could have imagined. This is seen in a lot of accident chains, accidents caused by circumstances no engineer or anyone else could have anticipated. I see a sort of similar thing with the destruction of the first Death Star in Star Wars. People seem to see it as having been very poorly designed such that it was possible to destroy it by shooting a missile down the exhaust port. So much that it's seen as a plot hole, one so much complained about that Rogue One was created to explain it as a deliberate vulnerability by the designer. But in reality, it was protected by a shield generator plus a lot of air-defenses, and the exhaust port in question was too small for any reasonable chance of a bomb going down, though that was a moot point as no rebel ship would ever be able to get that close anyway, not to mention that there wouldn't have been any way for the rebels to know about it. To destroy it required the rebels to have the plans, disable the field generator, fight their way through air defenses, and use the Force. Nobody could have anticipated them managing all those things.

[@nthgth]

​@@quillmaurer6563Good point, I never thought about that at length before

[@gailmcn]

@@quillmaurer6563 Yes, a similar event happened to the Concord.....nobody could have foreseen that a small piece of debris on the runway coupled with a full fuel tank in the wing, could cause a piece of tire rubber to deform the wing, resulting in a fluid wave that caused a breach in the wing skin, resulting in a massive fuel fire that resulted in a non-recoverable crash.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@gailmcn This is true of pretty much all accidents. A series of things that on their own would not have been too dangerous all coming together in an unforeseen way to cause disaster. Though on that same note, it's hard to know how many times one thing that could have been in place wasn't and an accident didn't happen. But in any case, accidents never happen for foreseeable reasons, because if they were foreseeable then measures would have been done to prevent them. At least we hope anyway.

[@livethefuture2492]

i still dont understand how after hundreds of years of traversing the atlantic, no one could foresee hitting an iceberg, or the idea of grazing a coral or a rock along the hull shearing off multiple compartments. Has no such incident occurred in the centuries of sea travel that came before?

[@Knobhead-tin]

"Was the Titanic actually unsinkable?" No *roll credits*

[@fmyoung]

There's no such thing as an unsinkable ship

[@PersephoneDaSilva]

@@fmyoung Shut up.

[@fmyoung]

@@PersephoneDaSilva "Shut up"

[@PersephoneDaSilva]

@fmyoung Get off of KZbin, child, and go onto KZbin Kids.

[@sledgehammerk35]

That quote by Bruce Ismay a month after Titanic went down hits hard. History has been incredibly unfair to this man.

[@gailmcn]

I think that Bruce Ismay's historical status is based mostly on Hearst's vicious reporting in the American papers, and partially on Ismay's actual behavior during and right after the sinking. He got in a lifeboat while women and children were still on the ship (Even though he helped many before he boarded the last boat). When he reached the rescue ship, he isolated himself in a stateroom, instead of staying with the other victims, or helping them. Regardless of what his actual state of mind was, the public judged his behavior to be self-centered and elitist, particularly in light of how many other male passengers of his class and lower classes behaved during the sinking. Although Hearst's papers unfairly portrayed him in the worst light possible, Ismay's silence and self-isolation at the time tended to validate Hearst's vendetta. Ismay's later statement about being deluded 'like others' would not have been well received by victims' families... he was, after all, the head of the whole White Star Line, and therefore should "have known more than anyone", and taken full responsibility. But what really sank his reputation was the misfortune of being a lifeboat survivor. Nothing he did for the victims' families after that (and he did much, as Chairman), changed that one sad circumstance.

[@WhatALoadOfTosca]

Ismay was guilty in the court of public opinion. Today the internet "jury" is guilty of it today still.

[@crispyyrosee]

Absolutely

[@simplelifelost]

He did do much for his surviving employees.@@gailmcn

[@rprince418]

The 1997 movie didn't help, which was many modern (including myself) filmgoer's first detailed story about the sinking.

[@heinmadsen-leipoldt2341]

What I like about Mike is, is that he takes the titanic into full detail, the passangers, the crew, the captain, the ship itself, the breakup, the wreck, the engines and engineers, the firemen etc etc, so nice to watch these full detailed videos

[@ChickVicious237]

Great work Mike, Sarah, and team! It is extremely difficult to properly convey the nuances of history, and the perspectives of its people, to others in conversation. I think you guys really nailed the topic here. Well done!

[@thurmanbaseballfuriesleade4302]

The man, the myth, the legend uploads and makes everyone’s day 👏🏻

[@thurmanbaseballfuriesleade4302]

@CaliforniaHigh-SpeedRail that’s alright, I’m not gonna judge you

[@RedHoodedOgre-.-]

Yes

[@ChairmanPaulieD]

I bet you couldn’t even name a single passenger on the Titanic that was gay? And he was actually a very influential figure in First Class if that will give you a clue

[@shirleymental4189]

@@ChairmanPaulieD Julian Bum-Squeezer.

[@ultrascreens5206]

Lads will say ‘the man the myth and the legend’ and it will just be their friend Mike from Oceanliner designs

[@bradwalton3977]

Shipbuilder used the English language well when it described the Olympic and Titanic as "practically unsinkable." Practically unsinkable does not mean "absolutely unsinkable." It only means unsinkable with relative to all _likely_ -- but not to all conceivable -- eventualities.

[@cotybowman8825]

Thank you for your videos. I enjoy them immensely. I am waiting for a transplant and have a lot of other health problems. The Titanic, Britannic, and Lusitania are obsessions of mine. I have a history library and probably 100 of the books are about these ships. Your videos are great comforts to me when I am feeling sick. Thank you, my friend. Take care.

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

I hope your wait isn't too long! Thanks for watching :)

[@legioner9]

@cotybowman8825: I wish you good health and a quick recovery. God bless you.

[@cotybowman8825]

@@OceanlinerDesigns Thank you

[@cotybowman8825]

@@legioner9 Thank you

[@darthdevious]

I would be interested in seeing a video, sometime down the line, of how Titanic earned the moniker of Ship of Dreams. She really wasn't, as in 1912, she was simply considered "another Olympic." It is interesting how the perception of the ship in our modern eyes is far different than what it was in her era. Anyway, keep up the great work, Mike!

[@quillmaurer6563]

This is an interesting thing to ponder - Titanic has so much mythos, of being the greatest ship ever built (some don't realize how quickly later ships overtook her), and it's common belief that she was one of a kind rather than second of three. I'm sure if not for the sinking Olympic would have been the most famous, with Titanic and Britannic forgotten siblings.

[@Mrfrankgallagher6]

@quillmaurer6563 very true. Olympic was very famous at that time and quite litterly unsinkable. Just a shame she wasn't saved. Would have made a cracking hotel/museum.

[@Borninthe80s.]

@@Mrfrankgallagher6unfortunately she wasn’t making that much money and white star line were in dept up to their eyeballs she just wasn’t profitable like most things during the Great Depression

[@Spooky1862]

I’ve been an avid student of the Titanic’s history since 1979, and the first time I heard the term Ship of Dreams was in 1997, in Jim Cameron’s movie. I agree with the others commenting here; Titanic would be an obscure footnote in maritime history were it not for the disaster.

[@quillmaurer6563]

@@Mrfrankgallagher6 Likewise, that she was scrapped and forgotten in spite of her successful career and association with Titanic shows what would have happened to Titanic had she not so famously sank. Would be an impressive museum ship, but there's others out there that are just as interesting, though without the fame-by-association. That's sort of the other thing, as well as Titanic being second of three, the field was so rapidly advancing that, while the Olympic Class was the biggest and best at the time, it wasn't long before another took the throne - those records and expectations were being broken on an almost yearly basis, as was hinted at in the video. The Olympic Class would have been remembered as holding the crown for a brief time before another ship took it, not for being and remaining the best.

[@krismorgan7640]

His knowledge, tone and overall delivery is what makes his channel so engaging and enjoyable. I find myself putting on his videos as I cook and absorbing huge amounts of information that I was none the wiser. Keep up the good work Mike, looking forward to the next one.

[@olympicnut]

Unsinkable was an engineering term used to describe a ship that was "unsinkable" in the most likely accident at sea situations. The ability to stay afloat with 2-4 compartments flooded was very impressive for its time.

[@Mondo762]

I am a retired Engineer, US Merchant Marine. I never, in over 30 years at sea, heard or read the term "unsinkable" in any engineering book or manual. If anything, it is an advertising term. Only a fool would say such a thing, even today.

[@glennrishton5679]

@@Mondo762 Exactly. It is an advertising term on par with something a used car salesman would say. Despite the advancements made in ship design in the early 1900s I am surprised Captain Smith bought into the BS given his background.

[@rustyhamilton2908]

@olympicnut no it wasn’t stop lying

[@semajniomet981]

Even then, the designers didn't say it was "unsinkable". The exact wording was "as unsinkable as you can make a ship". Not exactly a claim that it can't be sunk.

[@quillmaurer6563]

It is possible to build an unsinkable ship. One made of materials that won't sink even if everything is flooded, or for that matter if the ship were completely shredded. This isn't practical with a larger ship, but is quite common with smaller boats that are filled with foam, the Boston Whaler is famous for that, I've heard the same is true of Sunfish. The largest case of a truly unsinkable vessel was probably the MV Joyita, which had cork insulation for refrigerated cargo and was full of empty barrels, meaning she remained afloat in spite of being completely flooded.

[@philiphumphrey1548]

The closest you get to unsinkable is probably a world War II era battleship. Bismarck took at least 6 torpedos, probably 7 or 8, over 100 major shell hits and the crew's attempts to scuttle it before it went down. Musashi took about 20 torpedo hits to sink it. Yamato took somewhat fewer because by then the Americans had realised if you put all the torpedoes into one side, eventually it capsizes.

[@jako1234567890jako]

To add to that HMS Warspite.. she took so much abuse during both wars, enough in each war to sink multiple ships

[@tylerbuckley4661]

You mean england America was not in the war at that time not until dec7th 1941 by then the Bismarck already was sunk

[@PhoenixFire2]

@@tylerbuckley4661 They said the Americans sank the Yamato, not the Bismarck. Which is true, and that happened in 1945

[@tylerbuckley4661]

@@PhoenixFire2 in 1941 was Bismark what I was referring too it did not show me the Yamamoto

[@iamhungey12345]

@@tylerbuckley4661 The OP didn't mention anything about the Americans sinking Bismarck.

[@SamHorseherd2209]

I am impressed on how historical this is, never fails to impress me

[@Effective_wake]

Great video, nuanced and informative! Black screen with text "Talking head" made me lol 😆

[@rockymountainlifeprospecti4423]

Well done Mr Brady! Thank you for sharing and keeping history alive.

[@josemiguelmarquescampo4902]

Excellent commentary, Mr. Brady. Thank you for your channel!

[@stcredzero]

In a way, the same thing that happened to Fukushima happened to the Titanic. Both had walls that were designed to prevent water from getting through. Both of them had the walls built high enough for what was thought to be a sufficient safety margin. In both cases, this proved to be insufficient.

[@mistertagnan]

In addition, there was another nuclear plant that had even higher walls out of an abundance of caution that weathered the tsunami just fine

[@gladams55]

You’re a joy to watch and listen too. I discovered your channel after Titan and then found all your other content that included one of my history soft spots, Titanic. All I have to say is we’ll done. I was also impressed you were involved with the Titanic recreation. Thanks for keeping this history alive. 3:19

[@IntrepidMilo]

The best part of my day is watching your videos.

[@markvicferrer]

It's similar to the misuse of the term "bulletproof". There will always be limits to material strength.

[@garyd.7372]

It's also similar to the misuse of the term "foolproof". "You cannot make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious"

[@crptpyr]

Fireproof too, there is no material that can fully resist fire. "Fireproof" or the better, more accurate term "fire resistant" just means that something can withstand fires of certain temperatures for a certain amount of time. Given enough temperature and time it can still always fail.

[@FIRE_BOMB1]

There’s only one way to know for sure. Thankfully we already have our answer.

[@Boileryard]

Thankfully? tf do you mean thankfully?

[@hades.97]

I think they sent a submarine down there to test the hypothesis; no, not unsinkable. (Seriously, though i dont mean that.)

[@jagerdergroe8604]

*unfortunately

[@BoBandits]

Just try to sink it again!

[@Amrepdude499]

“She’s made of iron Sir, I assure you she can.”

[@TheNavyShark]

Now it's, "She's made of carbon fiber Sir, I assure you she can."

[@Gawlakman]

Except it was steel

[@andrejohnson4663]

And she will

[@JamesL-z6e]

​@@Gawlakmanit was iron .

[@marensweet719]

Superb presentation, Mike. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Cannot wait to learn even more interesting facts about the Titanic going forward.

[@stevenkarnisky411]

This is the most in-depth explanation into the "unsinkable" myth that I have seen. Well researched and nicely presented.

[@xxxxz4862]

It's amazing how one of the biggest failures in history is more popular over other ships that lived long, successful careers. It still to this day offends me how the first ship, the RMS Olympic, My favorite ship in history, The one ship that rammed a submarine, survived being rammed by a bow that was created to sink ships, and is 99.5 percent identical is out shined by a ship that had one job and couldn't get it done, freak of nature occurrence or not. Talking about unsinkable, I'd argue that it should have been the Olympic with that title, seeing how it was the ONLY successful Olympic class liner, regardless if it got lucky with a failed torpedo strike.

[@carlosadriantinajerovelazc4338]

I'm with you on wishing Olympic, as well as other ships, had more fame and recognition. However, calling Titanic simply a "failure" seems unfair; since, like you just exposed, Titanic and Olympic were almost identical sister ships, the successful career of Olympic serves to ilustrate just how equally successful career the Titanic could have had. While Titanic's life was so short, it's also amazing by how such an incredible night, with the conjuction of multiple natural phenomena and some human mistakes lead to her sinking.

[@xxxxz4862]

@@carlosadriantinajerovelazc4338 sequences of failures are NOT to be made legend, and that's what they all did. The ignorance and arrogance of those on board thinking that they were invincible til the truth slapped them so hard, it took their lives. And how is it unfair? It's the fucking truth. I don't care if it hurts your feelings. The ship was made to cross the ocean. Did it succeed? Did it get to NY? Any answer outside of YES is a failure, no matter how much you sugarcoat it. I'd say the same for the Olympic if the roles were switch and the Olympic sank on her maiden voyage. Incredible night? It was a HORRIBLE fucking night. That's what I mean by failure. It is idolized as an incredible story when it is nothing but tragic. And it is the same incredible story that caused 4 dumbass men and a poor child their lives to dive (pun intended) into this tragic story, even add to it.

[@Spooky1862]

Excellent video-I always look forward to your new offerings here! Cheers!

[@fmyoung]

The ship was by no means unsinkable but her story certainly remains so

[@JayS1889]

Great video Mike, a fantastic insight into the era of yesteryear of shipbuilding and their myths. I enjoyed watching.

[@runwayjet755]

Your passion drives me towards ship enthuciasm. Thank you Mike.

[@hughmcaloon6506]

Nice to see you posting again!

[@DannyDraws1912]

Great vid as usual Mike👏

[@NealBones]

Stoked for a new video as always. Fantastic work 👏

[@SubaruPieter]

I just want to say 3 things: 1. Amazing video as usual! 2. The Olympic class oceanliners are just complete pieces of art ❤ 3. Have a nice day everyone!!!

[@gerardskippon3099]

Thanks once again Mike and the Team for the research giving another excellent episode. Cheers.

[@DrCury448]

I will always feel bad for Ismay, he was just a man proud of the ships his company made, and he never really deserved all the hate after the sinking.

[@legioner9]

Ismay is greatly to blame. What you wrote above is your opinion. It doesn't mean it is the truth.

[@DrCury448]

@denniswilson8013 so in other words he was a Brute for saving his own life?

[@JWRogersPS]

@denniswilson8013 There were no women or children nearby to take Ismay's place. There was plenty of room left in the boat when he got in. No one was lost because Ismay was saved.

[@tylerbuckley4661]

Why he snuck intoa life boat before all the women and children were off that boat

[@tylerbuckley4661]

​@@JWRogersPShow do you know we're you there

[@therealtony2009]

Mike, your videos never cease to impress. Keep doing what you do!

[@SRFriso94]

I wonder if a deeper dive into the sinking of the SS Atlantic might explain some of White Star Line's confidence in Titanic, with her double bottom and watertight bulkheads. The Atlantic grounded hard in 1873 and sank, killing over 500 on board, and was the highest loss of life in a maritime disaster at the time. Grounding was a fairly common cause of sinking at the time, but Titanic was designed in such a way that she would have easily been able to shrug off the damage that sank the Atlantic.

[@dalewilliams2063]

At least, lessons are learned from each experience.

[@andrewwilliams2353]

An excellent, informative and erudite presentation. Well done our Mike. I congratulate you on a first rate effort again

[@NFS_Challenger54]

I've been fascinated by ships like Titanic for a long time, and more recently 20th Century battleships and battlecruisers. What I've learned is that even with ALL of the advancements in technology, we can't make a ship unsinkable. Even the great battleships with their labyrinth of sub-divisions, thick armor, torpedo blisters, and armored citadels that protect their most vital components don't make them unsinkable. One way or another, a ship will always sink given certain circumstances. Costa Concordia is a great example of pushing the limits of a modern ship too far with its safety features. Of course, that disaster also had a lot of human error in it as well. And not to sound like a pessimist, but sooner or later, another ship disaster is on the horizon. The only question is: How many lives can be saved in the disaster? In recent years, lives lost in ship disasters have been minimum, but even one life is still one too many. I like these types of videos you put out, Mike. It definitely shows more about the Titanic disaster and others that isn't really spoken about regularly.

[@AmosDohms]

I assume you're familiar with Drachinifel with those interests? 90% chance its a dumb question, but hey, any chance to suggest Drach is a good one.

[@NFS_Challenger54]

@@AmosDohms Absolutely, I'm familiar with Drach's work. However, I didn't get influenced by his videos. I mainly got influenced by World of Warships. That's how I got into 20th century naval history. But, both Drach and Mike here are the best when it comes to topics like these.

[@AmosDohms]

@@NFS_Challenger54 WG's games are a good way of getting people interested in these topics, I learned a lot of tank and ship names from them.

[@NFS_Challenger54]

@@AmosDohms The games do have that power of drawing you in. Like I said, my personal interests are in the battleship and battlecruiser. Since they're no longer used and that there are only 9 battleships left in existence, I find myself showing a lot of respect of the sailors who were on them, and the history of the vessels themselves. I had the honor of visiting USS New Jersey, BB-62, the most decorated battleship of the US Navy back in June of 2021. I couldn't tell you how utterly speechless I was while I was walking her decks. Next year, I'm planning of heading out to Pearl Harbor and visit USS Missouri and the remain of USS Arizona. Each remaining battleship has their own story to tell, and I just barely scratched the surface of it.

[@AmosDohms]

@@NFS_Challenger54 That's really cool! I'd love to visit some of the American battleships some day. I live in Eastern Canada, so it's not a short drive, but definitely doable. Though in my case it would likely be Massachusetts and Salem. It's a shame more of them weren't preserved, especially ones like Vanguard or Goeben, but I guess that's just the way things are.

[@stevendavies-morris6651]

Mike, thank you once again for a superbly delivered piece of accurate historical documentary commentary that separates fact from fiction. This is one of your best ever IMO. Thank you for getting to the bottom of the whole "unsinkable" issue, and putting that contentious word into a proper historical perspective.

[@christosvoskresye]

Of course it was unsinkable. It didn't sink; the ocean floor rose up to meet it. It's all a part of the expanding hollow earth theory.

[@DrCury448]

Shut.

[@christosvoskresye]

@denniswilson8013 Are you sure that wasn't the Weekly World News? The Weekly World News tended to have the craziest stories. The National Enquirer, at least in later years, seems to have been more salacious celebrity gossip.

[@glennrishton5679]

@@christosvoskresye The National Enquirer in later years broke some national stories that proved to be quite accurate.

[@christosvoskresye]

@@glennrishton5679 So? Salacious celebrity gossip may be true, but it's not really interesting or entertaining.

[@glennrishton5679]

@@christosvoskresye Did I say celebrity gossip? Remember John Edwards a presidential contender whose campaign was derailed when the National Enquirer broke the story of him using campaign funds to cover up an extramarital affair. A story not broken by the WAPO , NYT, or CNN but rather by a grocery store rag normally filled with celebrity gossip.

[@archerjohnson7910]

Excellent background information on how "unsinkable" was attached to the Titanic.

[@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773]

Honestly, I would say that Olympic was the very few truly "unsinkable" ships for how long she lasted. And that will always be amusing to me that only she, the first of her namesake class, was the one to outlive her more famous supposed "unsinkable" sisters.

[@AverageAlien]

Her sisters were not more famous at all. Titanic was only famous because she sank

[@krishuffaker4517]

Really this kind of details. Keep up the great work, love your stuff.

[@chernweimah9124]

Ah yes, Talking Head is the best Narrator

[@Kyojimy]

Le contenu de votre chaîne, cher Mike, rend brillamment hommage à la longue aventure des hommes sur les océans, dont le Titanic est un des exemples les plus marquants. J'aime cette histoire, et grâce à vous, votre travail, ma connaissance sur ce paquebot fascinant grandit à un point que je n'aurais jamais imaginé dans ma jeunesse. Je vous remercie sincèrement, et vous salue chaleureusement depuis la France :)

[@siphillis]

“I do not understand it.” Such a simple yet poignant statement.

[@legioner9]

Without faith in God it is hard to understand.

[@bowiearcangeli11]

Thank you for your dedication and passion in researching and teaching us about ships. I have learned so much from you 💜

[@stunder33]

Thank you for this Mr.Brady, sir! Interesting about Olimpic's refit after the disaster- It very well could have made her impervious to the same circumstances that resulted in Titanic's loss. Brittanic's construction was halted and rethought after the disaster. I sometimes wonder just how long Brittanic would have lasted had Bartlet not attempted to beach her.

[@Borninthe80s.]

Or if the nurses had kept the windows closed from what I read the captain didn’t know they were open since they were meant to be closed he probably wouldn’t have tried to beach them ship if he had known about the windows

[@EJ11994]

Mike, thank you very much for keeping this content going. I'm sure we all have reasons for appreciating you. I love your research and knowledge about these topics, and you keep them interesting. Thank you my friend. 😎😎🍻

[@Sulfuron41]

Would it be possible to make a video about Ismay? I feel like he was absolutely vilified for his role in the disaster along with surviving, but did he deserve the treatment he received? Did he actually make some of the claims and suggestions he was accused of? How did he react to the vilification after the sinking? I feel like there's a ton out there that just openly mock him and slander him, but I can't help but feel that he wasn't some Disney villain out for blood, cash and glory.

[@bruh4487]

Fr Bruce Ismay was more than just a caricature ppl think he was,and it would be cool since vids on his life before and after the tragedy are scarce.

[@fearlessfosdick160]

Getting into that lifeboat was understandable but also unforgivable. He knew that no one was going to tell him to get back out. He would have done better to have followed the example of Thomas Andrews. As the evacuation of Titanic began, Andrews tirelessly searched staterooms telling the passengers to put on lifebelts and go up on deck. Many survivors testified to have met or spotted Andrews several times. Fully aware of the short time the ship had left and of the lack of lifeboat space for all passengers and crew, he continued to urge reluctant people into the lifeboats in the hope of filling them with as many people as possible. There were several witnesses who testified to seeing Andrews, some 20 minutes before the ship sank, throwing wooden folding chairs overboard for use as flotation devices. He died like a man while Ismay went down in history as a coward. I don't see any ambiguity in this.

[@mnxs]

​@@fearlessfosdick160there's no argument that Andrews was the better man of the two. But it's also curious how people, to this day, are so eager to to vilify Ismay (something that probably has to do with Cameron's movie portraying him as buffoonish, arrogant, selfish and stupid). So yeah, he took a lifeboat... That's really his only "crime," to get in a damn lifeboat that was leaving anyway, and save himself.

[@fearlessfosdick160]

@@mnxs When so many other men couldn't or wouldn't. I don't hate the guy. He gave way to a character flaw under extreme duress. However, I do think that he died a coward.

[@Firemarioflower]

He did deserve it because the way his company treated the family of the deceased is downright sickening!!!

[@JackieOlantern]

I love every single one of your videos! They are so interesting! Thank you Mike!

[@jorgschwantje1239]

Is there any informations or pictures about the higher bulkheads that went up to B-Deck on Olympic? How did they managed it and how did it affect the look of the ship?

[@hanzzel6086]

Externally? Not at all. Internally? No idea.

[@nancyschaefer3851]

Absolutely marvelous video! Just fascinating! Thanks so much!❤

[@Gregm-l9r]

The Titanic may not have been unsinkable, but you are definitely a legend Mike . Love your channels

[@KoolDog570]

Mike, excellent content & presentation as always - kudos - & revealed more deleted scenes from the @TitanicHG 2023 real time sinking

[@cardiffgiant9406]

18:02 "The ship is reported to have gone down several feet by the head". Yes, 12,500 feet to be exact

[@theskicker8856]

It could be anything important to me and yet Mike can still dress better than me any day of the week for for likely anything. Great Video!!!

[@MrMan_TheAviator]

I think it’s safe to say the Olympic was unsinkable.

[@Tozzpot500]

If anything she was aggresively so considering her track record of sinking and crashing into things

[@billtherailfanner455]

Great video Mike, keep up the good work and thanks for trying to tell us the facts you know!

[@Darilon12]

If you think your ship is unsinkable, what will happen is the unthinkable.

[@SYH653]

Pithy & poignant.

[@fmyoung]

That's really well said

[@fmyoung]

And where did you get that from

[@Darilon12]

@@fmyoung As far as I remember... My head 😅

[@fmyoung]

@@Darilon12 Oh okay just curious

[@DSGNflorian]

That was an excellent summary of the various facets of this whole overhyped and all too often misunderstood aspect of the Titanic story. I find especially noteworthy the quotes of Bruce Ismay after the fact. An entire Titanic subculture has developed around the topic of Captain Stanley Lord and a very passionate and vocal bunch of people for decades have spent much effort on "rehabilitating" his name. I think if there is one individual whose legacy and name deserves rehabilitation in the canon of Titanic, it is Bruce Ismay. The persistent vilification of him and his role in the event is one of the most tiresome clichés associated with the story of this ship.

[@grvdggr53]

Yes indeed, I would love a video about the aftermath for Bruce Ismay.

[@DSGNflorian]

Since none of us were around in 1912 it's hard to judge from historic records alone if there really was a fundamental difference in the public's sentiments over corporate accountability in 1912 vs. today. Looking at the whole history of Anti-Trust politics going on then and many other facets, it would appear to be fairly similar in many ways to today's debate, if there even is one. As far as responsibility and accountability, those are not exactly one and the same. Yes, company management sets the direction and expectations regarding the handling of the ships. They can and do lay down the guidelines which they expect to be followed for safe and efficient handling of their precious hardware and cargo. Documentation exists showing that Ismay very much communicated it to his directors when he observed something that displeased him regarding the crews operating the White Star ships. However, as far as the operation at sea is concerned, the Captain, no matter what, is responsible for everything onboard ship to the exclusion of shipowners. Captain Smith was the person responsible for the loss of the Titanic. Plain and simple. Limited liability laws then were similar to today, and there is certainly plenty to discuss regarding how cheaply IMM was let off the hook regarding paying damages but long before any court cases or changes in legislation etc. had occurred, it was Ismay, who immediately directed the company to equip all of their vessels with lifeboats for all, make extensive and very expensive safety improvements to Olympic and subsequent ships as well as fund benefit trusts for the survivors, to which Ismay personally donated considerable sums. Correspondence of Ismay with other high ranking managers of the company has survived, showing him to be a comparatively fair-minded and considerate manager, a far cry from an absolutist corporate dictator. There is also documentation that prior to Titanic, during the early service life of Olympic, Ismay was very skeptical when some of IMM's top managers asked that Olympic increase her speed to make it to New York by Tuesday evenings vs. Wednesday mornings, something Ismay felt was a waste of fuel and completely unnecessary and inconvenient for the passengers (he turned out to be right). There is so much to indicate that Ismay wasn't the arrogant, ruthless, selfish, greedy, hubristic, evil, money-grubbing capitalist coward (I know I'm forgetting some important labels attached to him) he has been portrayed as since the sinking of the ship.@@nanabutner

[@ardiffley-zipkin9539]

Great video, Mike. Just when I thought that I had learned everything available about Titanic, you presented one more item.

[@Ragenule]

I actually feel quite bad for Bruce Ismay. The man was swept up in the unsinkable hysteria, and his legacy was tainted forever by the night the Titanic sank. His name was tarnished when a newspaper conglomerate that had ill will towards him for him turning down a job offer years earlier ran that he was a coward, implying that he cost woman and children a seat on a lifeboat, which is even something that persisted up to and including the movie. IIRC there were witness reports that he was practically screaming for passengers to fill the boats, and he had to be almost forced into a seat.

[@Borninthe80s.]

He was definitely treated unfairly I don’t get why people think he said the ship was unsinkable when he never actually mentioned anything like that

[@maximeraucent933]

always a pleasure to look at your video you have a very peaceful and clear voice, it make me easy to understand as a non native speaker thank you

[@glauberglousger6643]

Well, everything is able to be sunk, It’s just making sure it’s tough enough for most things (Sure you could subdivide a ship into hundreds of small watertight compartments, but then you won’t have room for anything else) Sailing into a large Ice field, and grazing an Iceberg isn’t really normal, or that common (Actually if you build a ship the size of the ocean, it can never sink, because it has nowhere to sink, But that’s a bit excessive)

[@RichieW90210]

Are you high?

[@chrisinnes2128]

It has only ever happened once

[@RichieW90210]

I suppose you could just concrete over the whole of the Atlantic Ocean, and then we’ll be able to just drive across.

[@ToddyTornado]

New sub on your channel. You are very informative and you do your vids well with pics! I love it. Can't find stuff like this narrating with pics anymore.

[@davinp]

Back then lifeboats were not seen as lifesavers, but to transfer people from a distressed ship to a rescue ship which is why they believed they did not need to have enough lifeboat seats for all passengers aboard

[@carlstenger5893]

Wow! What a great video. Thanks so much!

[@ChairmanPaulieD]

WOW so J. Bruce Ismay really made that statement in May 1912 that he admits that he was “in the wrong” believing that his ship was Unsinkable well I have to give him credit for saying that because I NOW think that First Officer Murdoch told him to get in the collapsible lifeboat before the final moments of the Titanic’s demise

[@shubanskh9329]

hey mike amazing video as always hope you are doing great!

[@brettcoster4781]

Brilliant episode, Mike. And many thanks for covering it all so ... deeply(?). Cheers!

[@WhatTheFriess]

"Babe come on, Titanic man just uploaded a new vid"

[@jamesgraham6122]

Another excellent presentation.. well done.

[@metallicasnake]

Great stuff as always, Mike. Thank you for what you do.

[@Straswa]

Great work Mike, enjoying your content.

[@EpicTrainsCanada]

I'm glad you got that out of the way right off the hop lol. Excellent and enlightening content as always!

[@TaroTaraufau]

Another fabulous video.

[@amberwhite3538]

Thank you so much for making these videos. As a student of history, these videos are absolutely fascinating ❤

[@norcalray7182]

Great job on the video. Good time watching it.

[@RobertCraft-re5sf]

Your videos are such a treat thanks.

[@tdecker2937]

Really interesting, I learned a lot of new info. Great job Mike!

[@sethreign8103]

Thank you so much for not forcing me to sit through the entire video for the should be obvious answer at 0:02 but clearly is not as obvious as it seems since there was enough demand for this video to be made.

[@Barkiro2010]

As a titanic enthusiast and nerd, my week is made once i see you upload a video about titanic

[@moisttowlette123]

Hey bud, I didn't see another comment saying the same yet, but at 13:16 it seems you forgot to replace a placeholder slide, and we're left with a black screen and the words "Talking Head" Great video as always!

[@xxx_mlghaxxor360_xxx9]

It caught me off guard. Took me out of the video a bit.

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

Oh man that is so funny, on of those has NEVER slipped through the cracks. I edited it out in the KZbin editor, thanks for letting me know :)

[@OceanlinerDesigns]

Think of it as a little behind the scenes 😂

[@moisttowlette123]

No problem! Always happy to help!

[@MattyRlufc]

Cpt Smith wasn't entirely wrong - if the first 4 compartments had been sheared off (as a result of a collision say such as Empress of Ireland) the rest of the ship may well have stayed afloat. The problem was that because they DIDN'T shear off the bow became dead weight and pulled the rest of the ship down. Had the bow section sheared off when Titanic broke apart and hadn't hung on and pulled the stern down, the stern might have stayed afloat longer and possibly even indefinitely.

[@SaraBearRawr0312]

The logic of Capt. Smith and Andrews regarding if the ship were cut into pieces: If cut into such pieces without damaging the bulkheads, and no portholes were left open, AND the ship was perfectly still, then its likely those sections wouldn't sink - the issue is, as has been made clear over decades of research, testing and first-hand accounts, the water pulling down the bow, and by extension the entire rest of the not-bifurcated ship, allowed the water to rush "over" the bulkheads by flooding the decks above their safe levels and then the water poured back down into further aft compartments one after another. If at the moment of collision, some giant guillotine cut the ship in half at the compartment just behind the flood-zone, the sea was perfectly calm AND the ship was fully stopped, then perhaps she wouldn't have sank - similar to how amputating a limb may prevent infection further into the body. Essentially they used theories based entirely from the drawing board and limited testing rather than accounting for real world effects outside of their control - something modern engineers also sometimes still do even 100 years on. On a separate note, most ships up to that point and even years afterwards only had vertical bulkheads with no true top horizontal bulkhead - cruise ships today have this feature where the horizontal bulkhead "roof" has doors which can seal shut preventing water from leaching above the bulkheads and pouring down into others which is how they often have bulkheads even shallower than Titanics comparative to their size - they essentially have a giant water tight box in their lowest decks which can be entirely sealed from the rest of the ship rather than topless bulkheads that acted more like cups, keeping the water in until the cups overfilled and spilled out the top.

[@pedenharley6266]

Mike, wonderful video! I’d love to see a video on how the sinking of the Titanic impacted the designs of the next generation of passenger ships in the 20s, 30s, and beyond. How would Queen Mary, Normandie, United States or Queen Mary 2 do with major damage below the waterline? What about contemporary cruise ships?

[@wiskimike]

High quality video as allways mike 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@benzalkionium]

Beautiful seeing the ship sailing in the background. I really feel the Titanic and her sister ships were the most beautiful ships. Although the Lusitania in the evening was also gorgeous.

[@ww2collecting881]

Wonderfully informative!

[@p.k.5455]

Thank you Mike!!! This was a very interesting and informative video, and really addressed a topic rarely if ever covered. I appreciate the thought and time put into these videos! God Bless, and be well!!!