Was Waterworld Really A WRECK And Does The Ulysses Cut Fix It? - Talking About Tapes

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[@AnthonyGuerrino_aka_TonyMoro]

This movie is CRIMINALLY, MASSIVELY underrated! The stunt show at Universal Hollywood is THE BEST part of the whole park!

[@ArtofLunatik]

Lol yup and its STILL Around

[@steveb7932]

its not very good, its just cool for white males aged 23-32 to like mediocre movies from the 90s and 2000s, like Hook and Episode 1

[@FantasticExplorers]

@@steveb7932 Hook is a great movie! And I want to remind you it was Steven Spielberg that make this movie, and near the height of his career. (Which I consider Jurassic Park)

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@steveb7932 But he ain't a white ♂.."he" is a bloody fish/mutant! NOT a PETA member are we? 🤣

[@erikbrock5444]

I used to love to swim as a kid. Matt Hooper being able to hold his breath for 2 minutes while swimming around was personally inspiring to me. So naturally this movie absolutely captured me. I watched it at least twice in the theater, and then dozens of times on VHS. I don't think I ever had any figures, but I had the boat, and my parents, being the creative folks they are, waterproofed it so it would float under its own buoyancy and I could play with it properly. Anyway, thoughts: The diving bell wasn't made to be a diving bell. He uses it to help him get stuff up from the sea floor. He can process salt water but only marginally better than a normal human(like it might take him a week or more to die of thirst as opposed to just a few days), so most of his hydration still has to come from fresh water. Deacon calls everybody cousin because the Smokers are literally all cousins. Back in the beginning at the atol that old dude said they were running out of unrelated people to reproduce with. That's why they offered the Mariner anything he wanted if he got that woman pregnant. Since the Smoker MO seems to be just killing everybody they come across, they probably ran into that problem a long time ago, but since they're descended from Ocealabamia they just rolled with it until everybody that was on that there boat were kin t'eachuther.

[@FantasticExplorers]

Saw it as a kid, not knowing it was supposed to be an action movie, and I've never seen it as an action movie, I've always seen it as a science fiction movie! And it's one of my favorite science fiction movies! Actually one of my favorite movies period!

[@kurtfranklin2680]

Waterworld is a pretty good movie. As you illustrated, the fact that the budget was enormous, and the production was troubled, vastly overshadowed the film itself. I think, and all anyone remembers about this movie is that it was a very expensive flop. And that Jack Black played the pilot, of course.

[@ArtofLunatik]

Wow i didnt realize jack black was in it: havent seen it in years

[@MylesMusic94]

I just watched Waterworld with my girlfriend a few weeks back. After, i thought, “this seems like the kind of movie famous internet KZbinr Tony from Hack The Movies would review” I’m excited to see what you think. I just picked up the fancy 4K Arrow release with a few different edits of the movie so I’m also looking forward to watching those too.

[@MyMonsterFX]

That's exaclty what I said! Then I put Tony in a cage over some gross mud until he agreed to review it.

[@l3fty_882]

We had a bootleg VHS of this when I was a kid, and I watched it all the time. I loved it.

[@beanheaddd3764]

My 90s movie I never realised was a flop was SOLDIER.

[@tonygucciano6875]

Waterworld was fine. It was a fine 90s action movie

[@SeanOkita]

fun and fine

[@erjo2567]

Much better than Cutthroat Island

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@erjo2567 ..'cause 100% the same? I did NOT know that 😕

[@emanuelkillian3174]

I like the part where no one redraws the map for extra copies.

[@FantasticExplorers]

Hard to do when you can't make paper (and what little paper that still exist this the kind that comes from magazines with print all over it) 🤣

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

​@@FantasticExplorersthey could etch it into metal at least

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@technounionrepresentative4274 ..or just make some tats' on baby backs?

[@FantasticExplorers]

@@dallesamllhals9161 too busy paving those new roads! (With pavement that we don't have)

[@Denis-fp7ku]

I know someone with a prop gun from the film. He found it floating near the set while he was fishing. It was hanging on the wall in his garage the last time I saw it.

[@colt5189]

The reality is, none of that stuff should exist in Water World. As anything that sinks in the sea is lost forever, other than Costner bringing things up. But then you'd think they'd support mutants bringing things up from the sea instead of slaughtering them.

[@alphaotakux]

It's an allegory for racism and how we need to work together. Guess it's too high brow for you.

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

I think the best thing about Water World is how it communicates theme, messaging and character all at once. The Atollers are the good guys, they live in harmony with Water World and do eco friendly stuff. Like build their home out of recycled plastic and using their dead as fertalizer. Its grim, but it turns the films messaging into positive traits. The Mariner is literally a fish-man, he's more *of* Water World than anyone else. Its the force of nature heroic protagonist taken to its most logical extreme. Even the Smokers with their consumptive life style and literally living on the Exon Valdez highlighting the worst excesses of society. All of it communicated through set, costume and action. Without ever really giving a direct word to any of it.

[@chasehedges6775]

Exactly💯💯

[@WowThereBuddy1]

The uncomfortable scenes in it are meant to be uncomfortable. There’s stuff like that in The Road Warrior as well. It’s a post apocalyptic adventure film. Yes some of it’s supposed to be fun, but there’s of course going to be darkness in there too. Never watch an Asian film then Tony because you won’t be able to handle their fluid approach to tone and genre.

[@Dartanyoogles]

Tony, I cant believe you mentioned The Simpsons, but didn't talk about the episode where Milhouse plays the terrible Waterworld arcade game that costs 40 quarters for each step!

[@HackTheMovies]

I can't remember every simpsons thing!

[@Dartanyoogles]

@@HackTheMovies Fair enough! I'll forgive you this time. Lol

[@Bailer86]

In case anyone wondered why Tony asked the scammer if he can give Tony their number so he can call them back later to talk about the movie was another Seinfeld reference.

[@dusty86]

One of the reasons why Waterworld went over budget was because the set was destroyed by a storm and they had to rebuild it. As Ryan brought up Spielberg did warn not to film it on the ocean, since he ran into issues years earlier filming Jaws.

[@MyMonsterFX]

I don't think I mentioned it but I love the fact that the massive set wasn't able to be tethered to anything so it kept floating away from the cameras or the ocean current would spin it around so they would spent an hour using their tug boats to bring it back into position.

[@Rafdog101]

Just finally watched this movie today with some friends. The Universal show is still super fun even though it's way different. I wonder if they modified the live show over the years because the main woman in the show is a badass whereas in the movie she really kind of was written horribly after she had to leave the merchant island thing he first visits. I mean who built the flying thing she had? There was just so many unknowns in the almost 3 hour movie. Other than that at least it was fun and entertaining to watch. Wasn't as bad as people made it out to be but at the time I'm sure it was boring in theaters.

[@fitnessabcvideo]

Never understood the hate for this film.

[@wstine79]

You can't pee into a Mr Coffee and get Taster's Choice.

[@JordanGingold]

Carvey!

[@ryanpowell2540]

I hate the notion that how much money a movie makes at the box office determines whether it's "good" or "bad." Some fantastic movies have totally flopped while stupid crap earns billions of dollars.

[@MyMonsterFX]

Absolutely! As a kid I was basically unaware of this nonsense which helped me love film for what they are and not the public perception or the bs business side of filmmaking.

[@Beastlango]

Land of doom did the cannibal thing like you guys talked about. That’s another weird mad max inspired movie.

[@lookdoug1516]

I recently watched it and found it very entertaining. Sure it’s not perfect but I think this movie has aged like wine

[@colt5189]

You should review Space Truckers, it has Dennis Hopper in it. Pretty good movie, though a little cheesy towards the end.

[@JayMakinen]

"Brilliant" movie. One of the movies of all time. Guest gentlemen in this were great. Tony was Tony. I'm happy great review overall

[@Aragorn7884]

Tony...we know those are M's upside down as W's 😅😅😅

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[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@HackTheMovies You're busted "Kill Tony"!🤣

[@alexandredion2151]

I still can't believe Costner had the balls to make ANOTHER long sci fi movie right after this one, he truly was king of Hollywood for a while 😂

[@HackTheMovies]

Waterworld was a fluke! There's no way it could flop AGAIN!?

[@ChaseSchleich]

Where were the sea monsters? If the world were 99% water, there would be some crazy ass monsters under that water. This movie really needed a fight with a giant squid or a megalodon

[@Dartanyoogles]

He fights a Whalefin, which effectively is a sea monster. You must have not seen the movie for a long time.

[@jesseelwell9107]

WaterWorld and the Postman are great underrated movies, and I don't care what anyone says

[@lordxmugen]

Postman to me is like the Fallout movie we never got. Its also a better version of Death Stranding. Seriously, Kojima basically stole the plot from it and then went crazy on it. lol

[@MyMonsterFX]

@@lordxmugen I'll have to revisit Postman. I haven't seen it since I was a kid. Maybe we can force the very famous Tony to review it. Also, have you seen the trailer for the Fallout show? What do you think of it?

[@Zacman1123]

According to my mom, this was the first movie I ever awake for in the theater when I was a baby.

[@ironwolf56]

9:27 I'm so glad you said this. My opinion about Joss for many many years is you can cry "the studios screwed me over" a couple times, fine, but when it keeps apparently happening over and over, maybe you're just not quite the artistic genius you think you are, Joss.

[@SilvaF0X]

I misread the title and thought said Underworld now I'm waiting the the Hack the Movies Underworld review 😂

[@colt5189]

I really like Water World, just like I also really like The Postman.

[@JoshuaWeirdo]

That guy from Jurassic Park 3 was Mr. Noodle from Sesame Street.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

I think rodger ebert asked why they have so many packs of Marlboro reds in the post apocalypse.

[@TheGeronimojoe]

Was Denis Hopper's character the inspiration for the bad guy in the Street sharks cartoon. They're both bald and wearing an eye patch?

[@MyMonsterFX]

I think you're on to something!

[@colt5189]

The reality is in an Earth completely covered in water, you'd have constant hurricanes. As the land is what causes hurricanes to die.

[@ArtofLunatik]

That sounds scary

[@ArtofLunatik]

Which makes me think, if there is a waterworld somewhere in the universe with no land mass and just water, would it be like that as well?🤔

[@NathanTarantlawriter]

This movie caused by hope for quality scifi to die.

[@maynardstuff]

Kind of makes me think Neptune may be a waterworld ages from now if the gasses coalesce

[@HorrorAddictsTV]

If anything the Stage Show at Hollywood Universal Studios is awesome 😎

[@AnthonyGuerrino_aka_TonyMoro]

Best thing about the park!

[@ArtofLunatik]

It certainly is, especially the plane crashing at the end part

[@InfiniCalendar]

Never saw the Waterworld stunt show but I did see the Batman stunt show at Six Flags Over Texas. It was fine and fun

[@emanuelespinoza9325]

I managed to get my hands on the Arrow Video release with the TV cut included. I think it was a bit redundant to have that when the Ulysses Cut was already included. Then again, it's not too bad to have. It is a limited edition. Anyway, I watched the theatrical version first. I often tend to do that before watching any other versions. I would say the Ulysses cut is better because there is more story to it. A lot of the scenes from that version were in the novelization, too.

[@MyMonsterFX]

I kind of want to check out the novelization. I loved the Ulysses cut. It felt like a real journey and added so much character to the finished film.

[@UnlicensedOkie]

The old man was also the guy with the mouse in The Green Mile

[@robk.6591]

Costner should've gone bald for this. I can't unsee his receeding hairline when his hair is wet.

[@ericfitch9181]

Kyle Gallner would make a great mariner, he’s already got the brooding down!

[@chewyandchris]

Have to say Waterworld is one of my favorite movies of all time wish it had a sequel

[@Dartanyoogles]

Waterworld 2: Tsunami

[@alphaotakux]

Water world 2: Wet

[@changotv5847]

Waterworld 2: Landworld

[@justinjc79]

Tony using M's as W's in his sign was trendy before McDonalds did it.

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

One piece of Mark Isham's score of *"Waterworld"* is still in the film: "Music Box (Source)", which is heard when Enola (Tina Majorino) played the music box inside the hut - that has the two skeletons of her parents - on DryLand.

[@NinjaRunningWild]

The Arrow release was pretty great.

[@luisrizo8813]

07:48; they recorded a commentary for "Robin Hood" in 2002, I believe.

[@MyMonsterFX]

That's good. Any filmmakers that don't record a commentary track are cowards in my book!

[@thegreatklemba]

I totally saw it in theaters with my mom , she wanted to see Kevin Costner. Was very young at the time. I had just turned 11 at the time the movie came out July 28th . My birthday is July 26th. Remember that is a total trip. My mom said she wanted to see Costner's naked butt. lol Also Dennis Hopper is just awesome in whatever he did ,he always looks like he's having a blast playing whatever he's in.

[@SpaceLlama-mb1vk]

Just stoping in to say hi, gotta get kids offf the bus then I’ll be back🤩🤩

[@artnandez]

I thought Jack Black was the pilot and not the gunner guy…

[@kingjunior7819]

Great panel. I wanna watch water world now.

[@AndrewJWildey]

Tony, I’d love a super cut of your cold callers 📞 🥶

[@EliteEleven11]

Her name in Nepeolean Dynamite is Deb, not Tina. Her real name is Tina and the Llama's name is Tina

[@alexkrajci]

Chip Douglas Saw 1995's Waterworld Six Times In The Theater.

[@TheSperz23]

I’m going to watch this again and take a shot for every time Tony says: “What you call it?” I’ll let you know my results when I’m done. 😂

[@rankin1289]

Jack black is the pilot flying the airplane.

[@alexkrajci]

This Film Was 19 Years Old On 7/28/2014.

[@tompedersen5736]

One of my top 5 fantasy movies ☺️

[@orinanime]

It wasn't really a box office failure from Universal's standpoint. The final budget was 235 million. And the box office and money earned was 264 million. And an additional 8 million from Home Media. But Universal only spent 12 million themselves. The rest of the budget was mostly covered by investors. And Kevin spent $22 million to contribute to the budget. BTW, Kevin Costner's paycheck was $12 million. And of the earnings, Universal got 45% - so, $145 million So... For the movie studio... It cost them $12 million, and earned them $145 million.

[@MyMonsterFX]

Yeah, this is definitely one of those films where it suffered from public opinion and scrutiny because of tabloids and on set drama. Not to mention Costners very public divorce.

[@RevanMartinez]

Cant forget the hit video game WATER WORLD, for the Nintendo Virtual Boy!

[@hauntedspaceship4175]

This is my guilty pleasure movie

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯👍

[@MyMonsterFX]

Don't feel guilty. Be free like us! I will shout "I love you Waterworld!" from the rooftops until I die.

[@handznet]

One of the most underrated movies. It wasn’t really that bad

[@davidrodriguez2631]

I have never seen Tony and his guests so stoned before this is great

[@Dartanyoogles]

Wait, really? They seemed sober to me.

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@Dartanyoogles Plot Twist: They were sober, it only seemed that way because David was actually stoned himself!

[@Dartanyoogles]

@@justindenney-hall5875 Lol!

[@MyMonsterFX]

@@justindenney-hall5875 I think you might be on to something! The only thing we were on was that sweet sweet dry land.

[@justindenney-hall5875]

@@MyMonsterFX Tugs not drugs!

[@Stonegoal]

Waterworld was amazing and I have watched it more than 95% of the movies I have seen.

[@chasehedges6775]

Yeah, it’s a classic

[@lordxmugen]

I LOVE this movie! This, Postman, and Robin Hood Prince of Thieves are probably my favorite Costner movies. If only he wasnt such a fucking douchebag off the camera. Its any wonder any director would work with him let alone get him cast in anything.

[@meatball4801]

Hey Tony! Any plans on during a review of the Postman? Would love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@MyMonsterFX]

I really want to rewatch the postman. My mom said, "If you love Waterworld you will probably like this too" But I was disappointed at the time and just went back to watching Waterworld endlessly.

[@mikejadzak]

I've tried watching this 4 times and fallen asleep each time. I'm determined to make it through the whole video

[@killdano]

Jack Black isn't the gunner at the Atole. That's another fat actor. Black is only the pilot.

[@DirtBoyTrilla]

WaterWorld is MEGA DANK. I smoke that shit all day. Serve up some justice, Tony.

[@charaoki]

Man, I hated this movie and I hated the Sega Genesis game but hear me out. I live in Japan and there is a Universal Studios here that has a live Water World performance and it was the greatest experience of my life. I got splashed and I could feel the heat from the fire. It's gotta be on KZbin by this point.

[@liolioliopaque2403]

LoL the spam call.. :D

[@Grom-rl8bm]

Waterworld kicks ass

[@thurmanwilliams7961]

Am I the only one yelling at my phone? "HER NAME WAS DEB!!!! TINA WAS THE LAMA!!!"

[@HackTheMovies]

The actresses real name is Tina! I kept mixing it up!

[@thurmanwilliams7961]

@@HackTheMovies I stand corrected. Keep up the stellar work.

[@ao7153]

I loved this films since I was a kid seeing it in theaters. Never understood why people disliked it. I really wish there was a the full 4 hour cut available. I think the film just came out at thr wrong time.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯👍. Same here

[@ArtofLunatik]

Say what you will about the movie, but the universal studios attraction stunt show version of it is still hittin haha.

[@henriklarsson6870]

Really liked this review.

[@theflail]

KZbin doesn't let me say "urine?"

[@timothyobrien9490]

Crank the Johnson Rod lmao nice Seingeld reference

[@BrianVarvaro]

Lucy Tightbox should have been on this episode. She has strong feelings about this movie, namely calling it one of the worst movies ever, which is wrong. It rules. Also, the soundtrack to both the movie and the unreleased SNES game are pretty solid.

[@OnceOverwithCayley]

You, sir, are wrong 😜 Worst. Movie. Ever! But okay okayokayokay... maybe I can't bash the soundtrack.

[@EliasGiacaman]

The Gunner is not Jack Black

[@JOSH-lw2jv]

Dennis Hopper should *NEVER* have won the 1995 Razzie Award for Worst Supporting Actor!

[@TheRealBGregz]

Isn’t the character from Napoleon Dynamite named Deb?

[@Denis-fp7ku]

Yes

[@TheRealBGregz]

@@Denis-fp7ku I thought so! For some reason, Tony refers to her as “Dina” in the video 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@gotd4m]

Yeah, the Road is incredibly depressing. Vigo is like a second away from shooting that kid for the whole movie. The book is MORE depressing. The BBQ scene....

[@danielboone8435]

It was the most expensive movie made at that time, and it bombed. I don't know if you guys knew that.

[@alexkrajci]

1995's Waterworld Was American Film Critic Jay Sherman's Tenth Worst Film Of 1995 On His Worst Of 1995 List.

[@Shoup1155]

whoop whoop!

[@meatball4801]

Idc what people say. I love Waterworld AND The Postman.

[@chasehedges6775]

Waterworld is a classic

[@JCIce007]

Costner had the wrong hair for a movie like this. Every time it gets wet (which is often) he just looks doofy.

[@MyMonsterFX]

Some of us are just cursed with Costner Waterworld hair.

[@gzz8551]

I always kinda liked this movie....guiltily

[@chasehedges6775]

Same here. It’s entertaining/enjoyable

[@chasehedges6775]

Dennis Hopper was fun and Tina Majorino was adorable as Enola. Kevin Costner is terrible

[@dwmadroxxide5090]

This movie was amazeballs.. If theres a river we'll dam it. And if theres a tree we'll ram it. Cuz Im talking progress here. - The Deacon

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

The Universal stunt show is better than the film

[@zesidil]

If all the glaciers and ice caps melted it would raise the sea level 70m (230 feet), there would still be lots of land mass though. @14:20

[@MyMonsterFX]

Hey Mr. Scientist! Don't crush my hopes and dreams for a real life waterworld.

[@SeaniOwl]

So there is a piss filter but not a filter for salt water

[@vandalfinnicus1507]

I've always been fond of it, because of its several good aspects: the score, cinematography, production design, costume design and Dennis Hopper. Worst part of the movie is Kevin Costner.

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

Tina Majorino was adorable as Enola and gave a good performance

[@matthewsnyder6126]

Between 3 and 2

[@makukenobi5385]

I remember universal studios Water World it was totally awesome !

[@kevins1615]

He cut their hair to repair his ropes

[@TungstenCarbideProjectile]

The reason the map is upside down is bc they swim upside down from the surface of the water down to the sunken cities

[@rameybutler-hm7nx]

Postman was better.