Washing machine pump teardown.

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@jrb_sland5066
@jrb_sland5066 6 жыл бұрын
The most important design element of this pump is that the rotor of the electric motor is on the other side of a non-magnetic barrier [the plastic cylinder around which the electromagnet poles were clamped] so that there is no need for a fancy seal on the shaft of the motor. Yes, the rotor and its bearings are immersed in the fluid being pumped - this provides cooling. This design was a top secret invention of the WW2 American Manhattan Project, the so-called 'seal-less' pump, used for circulating gaseous uranium hexafluoride without risk of the radioactive material leaking from a shaft seal. Very clever idea, and now used in many routine applications as shown here.
@Rayvandy
@Rayvandy 6 жыл бұрын
That “little” port is for spray function when washing clothes using another similar motor. I think it helps distribute water and detergent mix more evenly. Some Electrolux washers have this. The smallest port is for small hose drain, channelling water to a small bucket or tray when the filter needed cleaning, so the water don’t spill on the floor when you open the filter’s door. Thanks for posting the video anyway, very helpful!
@SvilenMarchev
@SvilenMarchev Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining so well why the impeller is not fixed to the rotor (at 10:59), but has some slack! That helped me realize that glueing the impeller to the rotor is not a viable fix really, as it would cause the pump to occasionally stall.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad the video was useful. You should be able to buy a spare online.
@thomaszaglaras8886
@thomaszaglaras8886 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having a video for the obscure answers that are exactly what I needed, and not for the first time.
@HDXFH
@HDXFH 6 жыл бұрын
A pre drain hose goes on the smaller one, allows ya to drain out all water before ya unscrew the filter and the flap helps stop back syphon on drain hose
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
HDXFH you *hope* your machine has the pre-drain hose. Ours doesn’t. And is, interestingly, one with an integrated dryer. So that could be why, I suppose.
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 6 жыл бұрын
yes thats what i was going to say saves a lot of flooding
@thinfourth
@thinfourth 6 жыл бұрын
What he said
@annierenard5954
@annierenard5954 6 жыл бұрын
correct
@questionminecrafter
@questionminecrafter 4 жыл бұрын
are ya aussie? just curious
@roninmusashi
@roninmusashi 4 жыл бұрын
How timely! My interest in electronics has been reignited thanks to your videos. And just last week I fixed our washing machine which uses the same pump module you’re pulling apart here.
@roninmusashi
@roninmusashi 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, one of the those forward outlets is for drainage. When you unscrew the big insert a bit it releases water in to the front of the housing and out through the foremost spigot. In mine it's attached to a rubber hose that is pulled out the front by the access door.
@darkstatehk
@darkstatehk 6 жыл бұрын
I love watching BCDC's videos, because things are either "strange", "interesting", "impressive" or "not good". I've actually learnt quite a lot over the last 2 years, I enjoy how he draws electronic schematics and explains them (not in this vid obviously). I also like the vids when he's messing with high voltage......and drinking beer.
@Radfordperson
@Radfordperson 6 жыл бұрын
Useful video Clive. Mum's 1971 AEG washing machine is still going, has been in use since purchase. Only new part fitted was a replacement drum lower hose, this was just a few years ago. AEG still stocked them (not cheap!). The main motor in this machine is an induction motor, more reliable than the universal motors that are supplied with most machines, other than top of the range ones. Having said how good the old AEG is, it'll probably fail now!
@FlorinPopescu35
@FlorinPopescu35 5 жыл бұрын
I actually had a sock stuck once in the filter. And the washing machine was completely full with water when I found out what the filter is and opened it. Wish I saw your video a year ago! :D
@AskTorin
@AskTorin Жыл бұрын
You're so clear and orderly with how you describe your process, the parts and function
@joolyb148
@joolyb148 5 жыл бұрын
The video is over a year old but you've just helped me fix my washing machine! Thanks Big Clive 👍
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Happy to help.
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 6 жыл бұрын
"Smells like tea"... Well it IS from a washing machine that was likely operated in the UK...
@johndro3014
@johndro3014 6 жыл бұрын
Over the pond here everything taste like chicken, prolly simelar to, smelling like tea.
@haydenkay-s1v
@haydenkay-s1v 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndro3014 I o
@haydenkay-s1v
@haydenkay-s1v 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndro3014 ok i
@haydenkay-s1v
@haydenkay-s1v 2 жыл бұрын
Oo
@OAleathaO
@OAleathaO 6 жыл бұрын
3:16 - "They seem to be getting popular again...strange." Not strange..I have a feeling your videos are partly behind the sudden rise in popularity.
@maicod
@maicod 6 жыл бұрын
haha how did you guess :)
@LarryKapp1
@LarryKapp1 6 жыл бұрын
I changed out lots of those pumps on my job taking care of laundry at a college. That seal always leaks and the magnet is always full of disgusting stinky glop. The motor runs even with that area flooded. And the thing that fails on them is usually the shaft where the impeller is attached wears out so the impeller gets all wobbly and starts making noise. Also what happens is either coins get in and plug up the inlet , or stuff like hairpins can work their way into the impeller . Though that was the older style pump that did not have that filter on it - those are nice and catch a lot of stuff that used to get into the impeller. And yes you aways have to pry hard to get that coil off - I used to just put them in the vice and whack them with a hammer cause they were already junk anyway and I just recycled the copper and metal . As you said there is no repairing those unless it is just plugged - otherwise you replace when they get worn out . The coil never fails . I always kept those magnets - they are useful for other things. Oh and the commercial washing machines had 5 year parts warranty so for five years when ever pump fails - free to put in a new one .
@steveraby6023
@steveraby6023 2 жыл бұрын
The slight resistance you get when you manually turn the impeller is the built in anti tangle feature. If the pump feels any resistance it will go into reverse to try and free itself from anything that may be obstructing the impeller. Quite a clever but simple design feature 👌 😀
@RWBHere
@RWBHere 6 жыл бұрын
1:11 a useful little wrinkle, taught to me by an experienced serviceman: Tilt the machine backwards against the wall before unscrewing the filter trap. Then clear it, replace the trap, and you don't have water pouring anywhere.
@lourias
@lourias 6 жыл бұрын
I find that you are very comical when you take things apart. I don't know why, but I chuckle. Educational and funny.
@jackking5567
@jackking5567 6 жыл бұрын
I've repaired white goods for years and they're not made how they used to be! The modular parts allows the prices to be very low - £200 for a half decent new washing machine is unreal. They were once far more than that and add inflation etc.. What I will say about machine failures now is it's mostly the plastic components - your vid showed a lug failure. I know for sure that plastic should outlive the machine itself but for some reason the plastics they use in them fails early. It's as if they've engineered in failure rates. Surely a manufacturer wouldn't stoop as low as to engineer their goods to fail when they shouldn't? Yes the coil - can be swapped for various world voltages.
@f00f00mods
@f00f00mods 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a service engineer too. My experience seems weirdly different to yours. I'd say plastic failure was fairly rare. Most commonly I see bearing/spider failure (on newer machines usually), relays burning out, blockages (obviously) and electrical components failing. Plastic breaking is mostly on the buttons and door handles, I'd say I see that about once a month.
@mitch3064
@mitch3064 5 жыл бұрын
Funny as hell that of all the videos I have watched of yours, I came across this one today. Replaced my washing machine pump motor about 2 hours ago.
@---777---
@---777--- 6 жыл бұрын
Recently I replaced the very same pump on my 10-year-old washing machine. It's awesome when you can find replace parts for your machine after this long time.
@coolbluelights
@coolbluelights 6 жыл бұрын
We used to have a front loader with this kind of pump in it. I had to replace it at one point because a coin got stuck in it and chewed up the impeller. The whole washer ended up only lasting about 8 years before the tub support fell apart. We now have a 30 year old top loader that was given to us. much more reliable lol
@LarryKapp1
@LarryKapp1 6 жыл бұрын
womens hairpins love getting down and getting caught up in the impeller
@Xenon777_
@Xenon777_ 6 жыл бұрын
2:44 That smaller hole would be connected to a small straw and it will be used to drain the water sitting in the pump, rather than it flooding out when you remove the large filter cover (usually on higher end washing machines). Also the washing machine drum exit will have a small ball in it. It will drop to let water out but if water enters the drain hose the ball will float, stopping the water from entering the drum for the drain hose.
@xKatjaxPurrsx
@xKatjaxPurrsx 6 жыл бұрын
Clive, you need a pair of huge slotted screwdrivers called "Brute Force" and "Ignorance"
@Cadwaladr
@Cadwaladr 6 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea of the quick test, but when I looked it up online it was way too expensive, so I made my own out of wood. I even put the little neon indicator on it and everything. Not counting materials I already had on hand, it only cost me 50 cents.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
"Everything" includes a hidden switch inside the wood. When pulled up it goes unpowered. A lot of old small fuseboxes were like this. Ave put out a vid, gotta split!
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, at over $50 on eBay, they are rather pricey. I'm surprised the Chinese haven't made any knock-offs - although I haven't checked in a few months. Hmm ...
@jhsevs
@jhsevs 6 жыл бұрын
I just use Wago 221 series connectors + usually end sleeves
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, the price is ridiculous. Its just a folding plastic lid with wire connections. It can't cost that much to manufacture. If I had a 3D printer, I'd design and make my own. Can you upload a photo/video of your DIY one and link to it please.
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK 6 жыл бұрын
£35 is the VAT inclusive (or £30 ex.VAT) price in the U.K. if bought from CPC cpc.farnell.com/cliff-electronic-components/cl1853/quicktest-block-with-1-5m-lead/dp/PL10638?st=Quicktest
@f00f00mods
@f00f00mods 6 жыл бұрын
Service engineer here. That pump wasn't going to last long. Once you've got water through that seal (or smelly gunk) it's days are numbered. I usually give them a shake, if there's water sloshing around it's time for a new one
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
The outer section with the crud (solidified detergent) was not sealed well, but the centre motor rotor was sealed OK.
@LarryKapp1
@LarryKapp1 6 жыл бұрын
Every single one of the pumps in laundry I took care of leaked into that area and they will run for a long time actually. The failure is not because it is full of water , it is because of all the crud helps wear out the bearings . I was always surprised how long they worked considering they were always flooded and gunked up around the magnets. You would think they could design a seal that worked to keep that area dry but I never saw one that wasn't full or water around the magnets.
@valdemarsvoboda7972
@valdemarsvoboda7972 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you saved my day! Without exaggeration, you saved my whole year!
@jamesyarwood7
@jamesyarwood7 4 ай бұрын
The small rubber flap was added to quieten down / damp out the pulsing sound that all washing machine pumps used to make once the outer drum (tub) was empty. All machines from 10 years ago and prior would make this strange noise once the water had fully drained. Simple reason behind this was because there would be a small amount of water left in the drain hose. This would travel up the hose in a small 'lump', however the pump didn't generate enough pressure by means of 'air' pressure to push the last amount of water out the drain hose, thereby resulting in a lump of water that would be shot up the drain hose - not quite hard enough, then fall back down the hose and land inside the spinning impeller. This cycle would just repeat over, and over again until the pump stopped. Hence the pulsing noise. The small rubber flap with holes in was added to dampen out this noise by acting as a 'fall-back buffer' This flap in my machine broke off and ended up inside the pump. After retrieving it out of the filter, the pump works absolutely perfectly, but now has that 1980's / 1990's pulsating noise once the drum is has emptied - Nothing to worry about.. 🙂
@Peaches_NZ
@Peaches_NZ 6 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how simple and low cost they can make things like these Maybe you could leave a link in the description that links to the Quick Test Clive??
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
There's a dedicated video about it with links.
@briandeschene8424
@briandeschene8424 5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Petrie Here’s the link to BC’s video on it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXW3nn9taNmbbbs
@jonbroomfield2353
@jonbroomfield2353 6 жыл бұрын
the blanked off spout that looked like it had 2 holes in it was used in older Indesit machine to drain the water from the door seal. it was blanked off as it used to block with the usual crap in washing machines & needed cleaning often, so it was deleted i'd say about 15years ago when Indesit used metal outer drums. the rubber bit reduces the 'chug' when the pump is empty & helps eliminate airlocks. the version you have there is a watercooled pump hence the side bits eitherside the windings & the water inside.. interestingly I've found that they go noisy more that the nonwatercooled, more room for the crud to get into the 'clutch' of the impeller/magnet maybe?
@j.cheeverloophole9029
@j.cheeverloophole9029 6 жыл бұрын
but what about your friend in America you mentioned at the start?? What happened? I can't sleep until i know...
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, I got distracted as I usually do. He took most of his machine apart to try and get to the pump to clean it out.
@stewartj00701
@stewartj00701 Жыл бұрын
Now I know why my pump wont start up after gluing the impellor on!, Thanks Clive, great videos
@genuz
@genuz 6 жыл бұрын
Eeew it's wet... other peoples yuk!!
@genuz
@genuz 6 жыл бұрын
he says it's from ebay
@coolizmc
@coolizmc 6 жыл бұрын
egh crusty bits *stick finger in it* classic bigclive
@sirp0p0
@sirp0p0 6 жыл бұрын
*SNIFF* "Smells like tea." Jesus clive...
@arcadeuk
@arcadeuk 6 жыл бұрын
The last one I took apart had a magnetically coupled impeller (i.e. the impeller on the pump side was just floating with no bearings / no direct coupling to the electrical side) It was actually a very clever idea. In my case, the impeller was completely jammed up by some string that got lodged in it, but you could heat that the motor on the rear side was still turning freely without damage, I imagine that would be a very long life pump, with no seals to go bad and no negative effects on the motor from the impeller stalling
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
Should rewrite this title "washing machine pump smelldown".... Tea, really? What do you normally drink Clive, Jasmine Tea? Cause undoubtedly that crust is probably hard water deposits w a smidge of scented soap thrown in. Here's hoping your next cup of tea doesn't smell like the inside of a washing machine!
@StoneE4
@StoneE4 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe fromunda tea, scented with detergent? That gunk is a combination of residual detergent, water deposits, and filth that has been washed out of clothes.
@johnpossum556
@johnpossum556 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Camel: Funny icon. I've got a bunch of Camel Zippos and ashtrays still from when that was my brand. Doesn't look very filthy and obviously that's leakage into the pump so bigger bits can't get in. I still couldn't believe how quickly Clive smelled it. Ick!
@StoneE4
@StoneE4 6 жыл бұрын
It's definitely filthy... Some of the worst smells I've ever experienced were from washing machine pumps. That said, if you don't overdo it with the detergent, the smell won't be nearly as bad.
@maicod
@maicod 6 жыл бұрын
I remember a pleasant smell I smelled as a kid when smelling the rubber seal between the drum and the door
@boelwerkr
@boelwerkr 6 жыл бұрын
Funny thing. I replaced the waste-water-pump in my washing-machine last week. It looks very similar. I got the replacement from ebay. :-) I disassembled mine together with yours. The only significant difference is a thermo-fuse in my motor. Also it's very interesting how the windigs are made. You can pull of the windig-pack and "flip" them together. this way a spooling-machine can simply wind up all the wire in one go. There are special tabs for the transition between both windings. Interesting example of highly optimized production. Everything is reduced to the bare minimum. No skews and no glue. Every thing is held together with two clips.
@dave_myers
@dave_myers 6 жыл бұрын
In north america at least, some washing machines (used to?) come with a service manual in stuck inside that specifies the winding resistance. On a couple of occasions my washer has failed to drain due to a coin jamming the impeller, with no harm done to the pump. Presumably the stall current has to be at or below safe limits for the windings, or the spinning rotor contributes minimally to the effective impedance in such a synchronous motor.
@puckcat22679
@puckcat22679 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Myers most still do. Most appliances have a folded up booklet taped inside the housing that provides a schematic diagram, troubleshooting steps, specifications for testing parts, and a diagnostic flow chart. Hell, even $40 microwave ovens have them, even though almost nobody bothers with having those repaired. Although I did fix our microwave once with the help of the troubleshooting steps it provides. What had happened is a bowl exploded inside it- thousands of pieces. In the process, it blew the door open- and it's a positive latching door, where you have to press a latch button to open it. Anyhow, there's 3 safety switches, 2 normally open, one normally closed, and in order to prevent someone from defeating the safety interlock, they have to switch in the correct order, otherwise, it acts as a sort of crowbar circuit and short circuits the mains in wires, causing the internal fuse to blow as well as cooking the switch contacts. That repair sheet told me exactly what to do and what to replace.
@dave_myers
@dave_myers 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the limiting factor is that you need a case big enough to shove the manual in? Forcing the fuse to fail with a dead short seems like a questionable 'safety interlock'.
@DavidScheiber
@DavidScheiber 6 жыл бұрын
ah, my washer broke and when I took it apart I noticed an empty re-sealable plastic bag stuck to the side I was wondering why now i'm wondering why the service manual is missing what sucks is I cannot find it online either :(
@simonruszczak5563
@simonruszczak5563 6 жыл бұрын
+David Scheiber I repair them for a living. Once when I looked under a customer's machine I found the plastic bag that's used to cover a new machine, stuffed inside the workings.
@piratetv1
@piratetv1 6 жыл бұрын
I had one out of the pouch the other day, the customer took it before i was done and filed it away with her manual. Good luck to the next guy who needs to do diagnostics, if it's not me and i forget she took it.
@pleasecho2
@pleasecho2 5 жыл бұрын
I've worked on this stuff and that is a very common design used on almost all washers and dishwashers now at least in the US. What usually happens is the seal between the rotor and housing wears out. Water (and lovely essences) migrate back into the magnet compartment. Also the impeller breaks off form the shaft, usually from an item getting caught in it. Result it runs but doesn't pump,
@juliustyrrell5117
@juliustyrrell5117 4 жыл бұрын
Good description I am using the exact pump on my Fishtank as an emergency pump Nice one
@anaesterhazy631
@anaesterhazy631 2 жыл бұрын
3:52 I believe that this sealing ring is causing my pump and machine to leak. Is it possible and if so, where can I buy such a sealing ring?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
One of the many spare parts suppliers on eBay may stock them. But you may need to change the whole pump.
@anaesterhazy631
@anaesterhazy631 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom Actually, one tiny little part that holds the pump to its housing has also broken off (I suppose because the pump hose has been pressing on it). Also, I feel that the pump cannot be turned into its position completely for some reason. Is this the definitive case for a new pump??
@tomschmidt381
@tomschmidt381 6 жыл бұрын
Timely video. Our front load washer is fairly new so have not had the fun of replacing the pump. Ours has a drain hose so you can drain trapped water before removing the filter access port. A few months ago the drain pump on our 10 year old Bosch dishwasher failed. The replacement pump was $72 US. Same type of permanent magnet motor as in your video. Water had gotten into the bearings and the thermo overload tripped. I'm surprised you did not find a thermo overload in the washing machine pump you took apart. The dishwasher was interesting as the pump mount was a simple rotate and clip, no fasteners involved. Bearing leaks are a pretty common failure mode that is what killed the pump on our previous washing machine so I'd be leery about buying used parts.
@echothehusky
@echothehusky 6 жыл бұрын
That was a super impression of a pump! Brings back memories of when I was an appliance repair bloke.
@maicod
@maicod 6 жыл бұрын
"an impression of a pump". wasn't it a real pump ;-)
@JohnnyWAING
@JohnnyWAING 4 жыл бұрын
Hi all can anyone let me know what is the electronic device on the left called? at 0:27 the one that gives power and the cables that go with it.
@newtown5698
@newtown5698 3 жыл бұрын
I removed and rinsed my GE washer water pump few times and removed sand that blocked spining, put it back on, and is working now just fine (it was not spinning nor draining), so I saved some money.
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 6 жыл бұрын
I once repaired one of these pump motors many years ago. First time I used it, it set on fire and filled the kitchen with thick black smoke. Showing super human strength I pick the washer up and chucked the bugger still burning out the door. I have since stopped interfering with white goods.
@bbjunkie
@bbjunkie 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Clive, the small aux. pipe out is for a drain pipe. Used on our Samsung machine.
@awolmadandy
@awolmadandy 6 жыл бұрын
those extra ports i would say are for water level indicator or door interlocks. most washing machines have a vacuum operated diaphragm switch for the door locks
@shilks8773
@shilks8773 4 жыл бұрын
My Miele WT945 has the pump which slots into the back of the outlet/filter housing without any hose connections to the actual pump mechanism. All the pipes are to the Filter housing making the pump just a twist and release part with the water seals being part of the electric pump mechanise.
@crusinscamp
@crusinscamp 5 жыл бұрын
9:50 - we passed "fixing the machine" at 5:40 we're now deep into "idle curiosity" I enjoy your videos
@miczell
@miczell 7 ай бұрын
5:00 I have measured my pump as shown in the video, but it gives reading of only 160 Ohms. Is that OK? Are all the pumps similar in that matter? Where can I check if this reading is normal for my pump? - Washing Mashine: BOSCH WAE24361PL/11, - Pump: 1BKEBS 101/012C 9000346607 230V 50Hz 30W 0,2A CL. F 034-09
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 7 ай бұрын
It's hard to say what your pump resistance will be, as it varies between units. Does it run when powered?
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 6 жыл бұрын
they have refined that over the years, the wonky pump i bodged a repair on an old washer relied on seals to keep the motor dry, and did not have that starting loose spinner design or a filter at all
@JPilot2
@JPilot2 6 жыл бұрын
G'day, Clive! Wow! I really enjoyed seeing your hole process of taking, this washing machine pump to bits! Thank you so much for not simply giving up, or abandoning all hope, in disassembling this pump! Nice job! By the way, haha! [thats humorous] The inside of this pump smells like tea! Lol!! Well done! Cheers! :-)🛠😊❤️
@Ififitzisitz
@Ififitzisitz Жыл бұрын
11:38 I always wondered why that was. Thanks for explaining!
@jvon3885
@jvon3885 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who scraps from the ppl who toss good stuff I understand the concept of patience when it comes to breaking parts. I feel your struggle getting that coil out.
@xdogg577
@xdogg577 6 жыл бұрын
This is so weird. I just got a new washing machine pump delivered for my machine today.
@jackjones4384
@jackjones4384 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought about putting your multimeter on the terminals ? And spin the impeller just to see how much voltage is created ? After all it's laid out like a antique telephone magneto , only in reverse. I'd be interested in seeing just how much energy that pump could produce. Thanks
@ismzaxxon
@ismzaxxon 6 жыл бұрын
The holes in the bubber flap is to allow air out. These pumps dont work when air is inside.
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
One of the more useful accessories they can connect to the pump is a little rubber hose that you can pul, out the front and that allows you to drain water off gently, as opposed to “very carefully” trying to open the entire pump housing.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but is it as exciting?
@JasperJanssen
@JasperJanssen 6 жыл бұрын
bigclivedotcom I suppose you need to find excitement where you can, when you live in the Isle of Man! (I have my washer freestanding, I usually just tilt it back in cases where I need to clear the pump. At least once I remember that’s the way to do it.)
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ
@ΑΡΗΣΚΟΡΝΑΡΑΚΗΣ 6 жыл бұрын
Jasper Janssen the only excitement they get there is a bunch of 1000cc on two wheels, that are riden by the biggest balls on the planet...
@maicod
@maicod 6 жыл бұрын
but they need fresh big balls quite often if you know what I mean
@LarryKapp1
@LarryKapp1 6 жыл бұрын
I took care of a laundry and I made a pan with notch that would slide under the lip of that filter so you could unscrew and pull it so all the water and gunk ( they always stink ) would go into the pan instead of all over the floor. I had to clean those pump filters out two or three times a year .
@tarassu
@tarassu 6 жыл бұрын
That rubber flap doesn't drained water to slush back when pump stops suddenly. So that dirty water doesn't enter the drum. But holes allow water level equalization.
@StoneE4
@StoneE4 6 жыл бұрын
0:58 - Most front-loaders always have some water in them... Even if the drum is empty. I usually use hose pinch-off pliers to keep the spillage to a minimum when removing a washer pump.
@mnshp7548
@mnshp7548 6 жыл бұрын
i made a windmill from one of them, the motors are very good generators and will give a very high pulsed voltage even at low rpm
@ratgreen
@ratgreen 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about making one. Do you remember how many volts and amps it made?
@ijazzzali
@ijazzzali Жыл бұрын
Hello, my front door washing machine drain pump run without laod (makes griding noise) however, when i want to drain water through it, it won't run at all. Do you think the pump is faulty ?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
Check it hasn't got objects like coins or pins in it. Make sure the power is off, and on some machines there is a flap at the front and a twist off cover for cleaning the pump and its filter. There may be water in the machine, so have a tray or towel ready and be careful to release the cover slowly.
@DelticEngine
@DelticEngine 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate this video is a few years old now, but when did drain pumps change from using shaded pole motors to synchronous motors. Personally, I've yet to come across a machine with a synchronous drain motor. The only type other than a shaded-pole motor I've come across is a low-voltage three-phase design I came across in a dishwasher drain pump.
@mediaservices2000
@mediaservices2000 6 жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT. You forgot the most important and wierd bit. So these pumps almost never burn out but they have an odd desese. The impeller falls off and i looked online no one seem to know how to re attach them. So you forgot to take the impeller off. As i seen all what holds it in place is some mineral oil and an O ring. (Vaccum holds it) Once the minerql oil washes out slowly the impeller falls off and then noone understands what is missing as nothing is broken. When i took apart aworking pump the impeller was attached with such a force that it would be unbelievebe thats its just vaccum. Nothing seemed to break and once re applying babyoil i could re attach the impeller back (no oil impeller just falls) I would be happy if u continue the video figuring out exactly how its made and whats the best way to repair :)
@MyName-tb9oz
@MyName-tb9oz 5 жыл бұрын
The drive pin broke in mine. Now it's $60 to replace a $0.20 pin! And it looks like there's really no way to get the permanent magnet out once that pin is broken. It looks like it's trapped behind a nylon (Maybe? It's white and has that nylon, "look," to it.) ring that is pressed in and there is just no way to get ahold of that ring without destroying it. I'm guessing that hair was the culprit. It's about seven years old and I imagine that seven years of resistance from hair being wrapped around the drive pin shaft every time it ran just took its toll finally. The impeller came off with part of the pin still in it and I can easily see where it's sheared off. Damn! How annoying!
@pauljs75
@pauljs75 6 жыл бұрын
Thought Clive was going to go into Electroboom territory for a moment there. But somehow he managed to avoid it.
@brucegoatly
@brucegoatly 6 жыл бұрын
So do washing machine pumps in the USA not have a port on the front for clearing blockages?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
Some apparently don't. A friend had to disassemble his machine to clean the pump.
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi 6 жыл бұрын
bigclivedotcom Unfortunately, electronics and appliances are throwaway items here. I do TV repair and they really aren't designed for servicig either.
@ACombineSoldier
@ACombineSoldier 6 жыл бұрын
If you build something for servicing, you can throw efficiency out the window. unless you greatly increase the price.
@sublimationman
@sublimationman 6 жыл бұрын
They use to be. My 15 year old washer and dryer can be serviced (I know I do it every time) and I just tonight replaced the ignitor in my dryer for the first time, 20 minutes R&R and $18 part.
@tiporari
@tiporari 6 жыл бұрын
Most do. Same crap chinese parts used worldwide. Almost all have cleanouts now.
@JuanAndresLanza
@JuanAndresLanza 6 жыл бұрын
You could do video about the defrost timer found in fridge freezers. Started to find ice in the back of the freezer and it wasn't that cold anymore (soft fish fingers). After removing all the ice twice (with the help of hair dryer) decided to Investigate. Found a wire attached to the cooling serpentine, understood it was a heating element to melt the ice, followed the cables to the back (where compressor is) and found it connected to a timer (8 hours timer). Said timer it's tiny mains motor with gears and every 8 hours or so, changes the Live from the compressor to the Heating element. Bought s generic timer from eBay for £4 and fridge freezer has been working ok for the last 4 years !
@jonc4403
@jonc4403 6 жыл бұрын
It's kind of amazing how reliable refrigerators are. Mine is almost 30 years old, and the only thing I've ever had to change was the icemaker, because the release heater failed. Oddly, the Amazon replacement was almost exactly the same design, but had a different connector. Oh well, easy enough to fix with a bit of solder and heat shrink.
@guitarstitch
@guitarstitch 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine you could do a secondary test by spinning the rotor and inducing voltage across the coils.
@EdWensell
@EdWensell 6 жыл бұрын
LG front load washer (in US) have a tube to drain the filter before opening.
@normanmarino7285
@normanmarino7285 3 жыл бұрын
It’s hooked on by those little gray hooked post that go over the white plastic bumps on the back of the pump.
@andreastewart6219
@andreastewart6219 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I loved this video! I am just as curious, and just can't stop 'taking it to bits'. I think it would have worked good enough if I were to have unclogged the eaten up terry,.. but NOO I had to see everything! Thank you for sharing! I really wish I video taped my ' I can use this for something' 2-ton printer dismantle. My mother in law still hates me every time she sees the stains on her garage floor,wall and, yes ceiling! Andi Stewart
@EIBBOR2654
@EIBBOR2654 6 жыл бұрын
Just wondering about those holes in that flap. Would they be necessary to keep the pump primed on a front end loading machine? All the washing machines that I've taken apart are top loaders and the pump is totally different, with most driven by a belt or a direct drive off the main motor. Interesting that this design has a separate moter for the pump.
@latchdeadbolt
@latchdeadbolt 6 жыл бұрын
I had to replace one recently. I saved the old one thinking I could make use of the motor... thanks for the info.
@mattschlosser8144
@mattschlosser8144 6 жыл бұрын
Our front loader has a small drain tube which yoj empty before opening the filter trap. I suppose they go on one of those extra outlets at the front you were talking about.
@electronash
@electronash 6 жыл бұрын
I think the flap is perhaps just to help prevent the waste water flowing back into the drum between pump-outs? The water is allowed to flow back in more slowly, so the bulk of water in the outlet pipe doesn't just flow straight back through the pump again when the motor stops. (since the loose end of the waste pipe is often positioned higher than the pump end, and sometimes higher than the entire drum.) I don't think the flappy valve would help keep the pump primed, but maybe?
@nigeljohnson9820
@nigeljohnson9820 6 жыл бұрын
Pond water pumps are similar interesting because that completely isolate the electrics from the water using sealed coils and an induction driven disk impeller. Such pumps are designed to handle dirty water with lots of solids in it. The pumps also deal well with a stalled impeller.
@rotopenguin7357
@rotopenguin7357 6 жыл бұрын
Are the core laminations stacked up so their slightly knifey side (from being stamp cut) acts as ratchet teeth against the pump body?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure which edge was sharpest, but the rear one did fold down enough to make extracting the coil difficult.
@bryanadams256
@bryanadams256 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was looking all over for which one was intake. Cause I bought a pump for one of those Chinese gravity drain ones for my apartment. I don't want to have to do it in the bathtub anymore! I can now do it in the kitchen! Quick question! Will the motor burn if it runs dry?
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
It can run dry for a while, but it's only intended for intermittent use.
@bryanadams256
@bryanadams256 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigclivedotcom I was quite curious because it's just basically a fan! Then, why don't fans burn out?
@fredjones7307
@fredjones7307 4 жыл бұрын
They are designed with large tolerances allowing them to pump quite sizable debris.the flap, to stop any debris that has gone through the pump if the pump stops before it clears the pipe from sinking back into the rotor ?.
@ZeedijkMike
@ZeedijkMike 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't one of the small 'pipes' on the side of the pump used for the water level gauge. Connected by a fairly long rubbe tube.
@MrMaff1975
@MrMaff1975 Жыл бұрын
Nice one mate ive 'liked ' and 'subscribed' the thing i want to know is is the pump bidirectional. I mean does it matter what wires go on what connection. It does seem to matter when pump isnt in place/position?
@a-c0rn
@a-c0rn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this video! Our washing machine has been clogged for 2 months now, and after opening that cleaning slide there was an entire sock, along with some change and a nail file in there. No wonder it wasn't working! That fixed it right up though.
@SaudiArabianGovernmentno.1
@SaudiArabianGovernmentno.1 2 жыл бұрын
Some pumps have pulse drum but it isn't broken!!! So what causes the roar??
@steveraby6023
@steveraby6023 2 жыл бұрын
When you test the resistance what range should the reading be in ?. Is there a specific number to look for or are the readings different for each make of machine ?.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 2 жыл бұрын
The will be variation depending on power of pump and the local voltage.
@rascalwind
@rascalwind 6 жыл бұрын
Other ports are for pumping water from the tub into the softener and bleach trays. It allows it to mix water with those products while the tub has water in it. It's either done when the water is filling the tub or when the wash cycle is running.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
The UK machines use solenoid valves for that and use the main water supply to add the detergent and softener as the machine is filling.
@PaulMansfield
@PaulMansfield 6 жыл бұрын
This was a really useful article as my washing started leaking again. Last time it was the drain pump. Sadly, this time the door seal has perished - not bad for a 19 year old machine to last this long.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 6 жыл бұрын
The door seals are not that complex to change on some models. It might be worth looking on KZbin to see if there's a video that covers your model. It's often a single rubber sleeve retained by two spring tensioned wire loops.
@Imf44
@Imf44 6 жыл бұрын
"but then again.... *I REGRET NOTHING* " 👌😂👌😂👌
@rpsproject5349
@rpsproject5349 6 жыл бұрын
You can buy the Cliff quick test unit from Rapid Electronics in the UK, about £35.
@andrzej_autko
@andrzej_autko 6 жыл бұрын
I would suggest, that You should be explaining the inner workings on the hudraulic side, the innder workings of the pumps, also dig deeper into the purpose of that semi-chceck valve.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 жыл бұрын
The inside of that pump is disgusting. You say drain pumps are quiet. The drain pump in my washing machine is very noisy. Always a loud 50hz buzzing, especially when all the water has been drained. It still works fine and isn't blocked. Any way to make it quieter?
@two_tier_gary_rumain
@two_tier_gary_rumain 6 жыл бұрын
You sure that the bulk of the sound isn't coming from the floor waste? I have a dishwasher that makes a lot of noise when it drains into the waste pipe under the sink next to it. Just putting the plug into the sink above cuts the bulk of that noise down. I've covered the floor waste in the laundry room for much the same reason, although my washing machine isn't as noisy as the dishwasher.
@LarryKapp1
@LarryKapp1 6 жыл бұрын
The pumps will get really noisy when the rod that holds on the impeller gets worn out and starts wobbling around. If you pull the hose off and stick your finger in you can wiggle it and feel the slop. When the pump gets really loud it is time to get a new pump for when the old pump fails which will happen eventually depending on use. But the noise you hear could also be a solenoid buzzing . Those make noise like you describe and is sort of normal - though a new solenoid might be quieter might not also .
@28YorkshireRose12
@28YorkshireRose12 3 жыл бұрын
That reminds me, I need to sort out the condensate pump on my "split-twin" air conditioner. The old one went caffooey and burnt the windings when the condensate drain became blocked and overflowed into the motor. It's actually a shaded pole motor in my machine, but unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement pump, and I don't think it's possible to remove/replace the winding.
@bigclivedotcom
@bigclivedotcom 3 жыл бұрын
Condensate pumps fail regularly. You may be able to find a direct fit on eBay. Make sure the water level sensor is working. You can also get complete pump/sensor units.
@MedSou
@MedSou 6 жыл бұрын
good explanation👍👍👍👍👍
@stihl888
@stihl888 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, your video got me out of trouble
@rtripp4456
@rtripp4456 6 жыл бұрын
I just autopsied (sp) our washing machine. I wish I had seen this video before I started. Our pump came " to bits" easily. What I found was, a tremendous amount of brackish water in the impeller shaft housing and a broken impeller shaft magnet. The magnet was fractured lengthwise the full length of the shaft. I assume that that was the failure that lead to the error code. Now I need ideas for what to doe with the old motor.
@mrflamewars
@mrflamewars 6 жыл бұрын
Fancy as hell compared to a Kenmore direct drive washer pump.
@aurora0257
@aurora0257 6 жыл бұрын
I changed a similar pump a few years ago (Hotpoint make machine), the windings had shorted causing it to overheat and melt the grey plastic housing so that it leaked water.
@markyb555
@markyb555 6 жыл бұрын
At least I know what our washing machine pump looks like now if it ever breaks! Thanks :)
@edd6113
@edd6113 6 жыл бұрын
Could you use the motor windings as a magnetiser / de magnetiser as seen on other KZbin videos with bigger motors?
@laurenslebacq1782
@laurenslebacq1782 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Big Clive, Would you mind doing a tear-down/explanation of the main washing machine motor e.g.Welling HXGK1I 240V 50Hz 300W Universal motor? Thanks
@cassieabhram7089
@cassieabhram7089 6 жыл бұрын
Super Dooper Clive . luv watching your destructive bear dis- Assembly routines ...
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