Why these two California-born Olympians chose to compete for China

Zhu Yi and Eileen Gu have had very different experiences at the 2022 Beijing Olympics, but both chose to compete for China after growing up in the United States. Subscribe to The Washington Post on KZbin: wapo.st/2QOdcqK
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[@starsgazer1000]

If IOC's main objective is to unify people from all over the globe, then they should eliminate representation by countries and just recognize athletes by their names only. This will eliminate country switching and state sponsored doping.

[@badexamplepl]

U dumm

[@ggs2206]

Couldn't agree more. The Olympics is such a strange affair. On the one hand it is the greatest display of globalism, on the other, the greatest display of nationalism. It's like the twin headed monster. Many of these athletes are now professional athletes who compete for prize money and sponsorship, it's become their bread and butter, so they are basically competing for themselves anyway. This whole national pride thing is becoming meaningless and just injects far too much politics into sports. It's annoying. We should just celebrate sports for sports. Admire *all* athletes who are best at what they do, regardless of where they're from.

[@MK-we9sw]

That would not stop state sponsored doping. Just because they won't be representing their country doesn't mean the country won't have an interest in their success.

[@AgentJ2007]

@@ggs2206all athletes are competing for themselves. If the country does not take good care of them, then why the hell should they play for their country. Move elsewhere to a country that treats you better. Like finding another employer.

[@lykaojalao2733]

What I saw happening to Gu at the Paris Olympic when the two Chineses Diving athletes who are themselves Super Stars got super excited to see Gu among the audiences. This show how Gu has this impact on young Chinese athletes.

[@michael1111111100]

I thought “did it for the money” is the most American most capitalistic thing you can do. If that’s the reason then she is as American as one can be.

[@chinqlinq89]

Yup. Doing American things but representing China. Shows you her integrity.

[@michael1111111100]

@@chinqlinq89 The American thing would be to represent the country that will give her the most financial rewards. You can't get more American than that.

[@ThaiNguyen-tn9zv]

the most american thing and most capitalistic thing are not mutually inclusive....

[@michael1111111100]

@@ThaiNguyen-tn9zv It kinda is though

[@loualbino5536]

That's not the most American thing to do you Low life. Keep her over there and never let her come back.

[@jamesreed7636]

Weird how GU gets to keep her American citizenship but ZHU YI had to give it up.

[@ML-yu5ij]

Correction : China does not allow dual citizenship

[@user-kl5qi2wh4o]

She gave it up. But she will be living in California attending Stanford right after the olympics. lol.

[@ML-yu5ij]

@@user-kl5qi2wh4o so?

[@ML-yu5ij]

@@user-kl5qi2wh4o She earned her place in Stanford . What's wrong about that

[@jamesreed7636]

@@ML-yu5ij not officially.. but yet she still remains a u.s. citizen. Like I said... wierd

[@mm8693]

Each year many people from other countries come to the US and contribute to the long lasting legacy of the US sports. Why can’t people understand that some Americans benefit the sports of other countries? Why can’t we just be more open minded? It’s their personal decision. If you like sports, then don’t discriminate others, because in sports everyone is equal.

[@kaustavkapur5532]

woke sjw. There is a difference. These 2 recent chinese-american athletes steal recources and training facilities and then represent another country. Meanwhile, when immigrants come to our country, they use our recources, and then help us win. That is the difference.

[@Ivan-bg1jp]

@@kaustavkapur5532 For the case of Gu, she's popularizing the sport of Skiing in China. She is succeeding and will succeed for years to come. More American Ski brands can pour in, thus, also benefitting US on a financial standpoint

[@ianfu747]

Gu is a daughter of China!

[@kaustavkapur5532]

@@Ivan-bg1jp are you stupid. why the hell would you want to help china when they are our biggest rival at the moment and trying to steal our superpower position from us. you sjws have a waay too cheery and positive view of reality.

[@qwerty9714]

@@kaustavkapur5532 how is winning an olympic medal "helping" china? Since when does china rely on olympic victories to surpass the us? Lmao china is surpassing usa because they invest in themselves, not war What a stupid thing to suggest, would that mean chinas shot at being number 1 would be crushed if she won gold for usa?? And wtf do you mean "use our resources"? I bet most of her ski equipment was made in china anyways 😂😂😂 does that mean usa should credit china for every olympic victory? Cause i guarantee you every us olympian has in a LITERAL sense actually relied on chinese resources to further their athletic careers Just hoping youre consistent with your criticisms Calling people "woke sjw" just means youre triggered, go cry about it loser

[@xuanminglu1507]

Could it be because you told them to go back to their own country?

[@user-kl5qi2wh4o]

It's because there is more money to be milked from china.

[@inglam]

Probably yeah. Fuxking racists are pushing US talents out.

[@Findyification]

LOL so true now they literally go back to their own country

[@EZ-rs5zv]

@Dennisestrada I hope that is not true, because then Chinese would be like Americans!

[@ML-yu5ij]

@@user-kl5qi2wh4o You must be white.

[@kpepperl319]

It's all about money. There are way more advertising money for athletes in China than in America.

[@rileyhun3710]

It's more about being proud of your culture and your roots. You wouldn't understand because you're not Chinese. But she was raised to respect her heritage.

[@LeChina]

@@rileyhun3710 well said.

[@eggzzdee]

Cry ab it

[@zsarimaxim692]

It was called the American Dream. Remember?

[@thitran3080]

It all comes down for her to choose: Get gold for America, but probably making about 100-200k a year, or, represent China and get hold, making hundred of millions because of contracts from Chinese companies and modelling for popular brands in China? It's a no brainer on which side to choose.

[@walnoremac]

Why Owen Hargreaves representing England not Canada for soccer ? Why no one care so many English soccer players representing Jamaica for World Cup ?

[@nzhong169]

Depends on who you ask, to those China haters, they can't stand that China is better in some ways so they will trash anything China. This is a typical reaction by people who feel inferior themselves.

[@gokaren420]

@@nzhong169 we are not hating on China. China does enough hating on it's own citizens. She gets to come back to USA and live freely instead of prison China

[@hang0822]

@@gokaren420 黑人在美国还不够屈辱吗？竟然认为中国人在自己国家当犯人？事实是你们以为自己是美国人，但白人看起来你只是个野蛮人或者别的什么东西。

[@muqri.2745]

@@hang0822 No. You people are race-baiting.

[@Aztec1050]

@@muqri.2745 I’m Chinese and I feel ashamed, please ignore him I am with you. Make American great again

[@TomFoti]

China has about one fifth of the global population to choose from. Maybe they should just get better coaching.

[@annzee6315]

They spent so much of their GDP on military and police force to suppress their people!

[@崔莱]

This is them getting better coaching, what do you think she's gonna do once she retires from being an athlete?

[@TomFoti]

@@崔莱 I don't know, probably get put in the gulag for free speech?

[@robvision3888]

@@annzee6315 most Chinese people actually like living in China. A lot of Black people in America hate living in America. Welcome to 2022 lol

[@崔莱]

@@TomFoti riiight, you're officially crazy.

[@enigmeavenir5955]

During the last decades, there have been thousands of Chinese people who migrated to the US to make contributions to many areas of society, they have been seen as the bridges of cultural communication and models for American's open mind, diversity. But today, two girls also chose to be the bridges in another way became a special target in American media. pity!

[@hubbyl2195]

Not only decades, it is more like hundreds.

[@sharon3248]

I think you are a bit naive on this. I"m from China btw.

[@themouthofsauron6926]

What contributions?

[@ggs2206]

@@themouthofsauron6926 Like giving us Eileen Gu for instance...until she defected.

[@holycow343]

There are many other American born athletes that went to compete for China, why is the western media so focused on these two women?

[@user-gf3wn1ne9n]

01:53 "In both the team event and then the individual" - the women's singles events have not taken place yet. Zhu took part in the team short program and team free skate.

[@darthrib1281]

People forget these people are representing a country with millions in concentration camps being murdered and millions in Hong Kong having their freedoms taken

[@sharon3248]

that's exactly the point!

[@hang0822]

2022年还有人相信中国有屠杀？你知道几百万人是多少人？纳粹德国把犹太人几乎杀完了才几百万，中国为什么要杀几百万自己国家的居民？脑子是个好东西，你应该多用用它。或者你只是台湾的网军，工作就是造谣？还是你相信美国总统其实都是外星人吧？

[@tainoret7261]

But I live happier than you

[@WarBastard88]

@@tainoret7261 All sheep think they do.......until they're led to the slaughter.

[@mangcike]

xinjiang is fake news and how about the 2021 United States Capitol attack

[@nitholx917]

Well Eileen switched when was 15, and because one of the reason she love China more is that she was raised only by her mom and grandma, his dad where never existed in her life, so she have a good reason to want to support China instead of USA.

[@kylepasta]

Bot

[@NightPhoenix.Y]

@@kylepasta Bot detected

[@paulharrison3419]

This response is fake as hell

[@ggs2206]

Is that what the CCP tells you? If that's true then she would've packed her bags and moved to China by now. The fact that they still own a home in the US and she still plans to come back here for college should tell you something. She's only doing XJP a favor, help him "save face", because China is unable to produce a star like her, so they had to poach her from TeamUSA. She's born and bred in the USA. To call her "Chinese" is just so...dishonest.

[@nitholx917]

@@ggs2206 hahaha cry about it

[@3mKay]

if she wants to represent her mother's country so be it. Its blown out of proportion, I doubt people would be outrage if she didnt get a gold

[@Gamycodes]

I totally agree if that is the intent. Unfortunately, the Olympics have become a political grandstand, even though the IOC does not give the athletes money.

[@obsidianstatue]

@@Gamycodes Who started to politicize this Olympics by starting a "diplomatic boycott" which btw gained absolutely no traction.

[@Gamycodes]

@@obsidianstatue well, this all started way beforehand. The Olympics have always been politicized since forever. I'm not saying it started this year

[@finncassidy1024]

@@obsidianstatue its politicized massively because of the social cleansing of uyghurs. ik shes just trying to get her bag and I support that but its still a reason for people to be pissed I feel.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

@@finncassidy1024 No, it's politicized because it's always been. Hitler tried to politicize it in 1936 to show the superiority of the German race. The US and its allies refused to send athletes to Moscow in 1980 because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the Soviets revenge-boycotted the 1984 Los Angeles games. As much as people hate it, politics and the Olympics have always gone together.

[@dankool688]

There’s been other olympians representing other countries they weren’t born in , wonder why there’s so much hate now🤷‍♂️

[@Shaolin91z]

Maybe it would be different.... except in her case she caused the team to drop out of medal contention

[@kaixiang5390]

Because other countries have laws allowing dual citizenship athletes. China does not. They simply bend their own laws whenever it is convenient.

[@asianamericancasestudies6434]

Chinese identity is based on ethnicity. Technically it's the father who has to be Chinese if you're a male; but for a female mixed-race, it doesn't really matter. There is no such thing as American identity, as anyone can become "American," just as white people killed off the native Americans and started to believe that whites are the real Americans--which is why black Americans are still be slaughtered after hundred of years in America.

[@kaixiang5390]

@@asianamericancasestudies6434 there is an American identity, it’s called American citizenship. The modern world invented citizenship to deal with ethnic mixing. Legal citizenship is a far better identifier than ethnic heritage

[@tenzinkunga8402]

One think I know for sure is that if Zhu has compete for USA and fall, she wouldn’t face a criticism or internet bully. We are equal in America.

[@hang0822]

我觉得你们很可笑，谷爱玲在美国电视台被人称作叛徒。朱易输了比赛在中国大部分人也鼓励她，你应该承认奥运选手比你们聪明，他们知道应该怎么做才对自己好。而不是吃着薯片看着foxnews意淫。

[@tommytan8769]

I just can't understand why so stupid and foolish you guys are, have you used Chinese social media? Has Zhu actually compete for USA and fall? You knew none of this and yet you still state out a completely humiliating opinion.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

If you don't think she would've faced criticism online, you don't know American sports. We could argue she may not have faced the _degree_ of criticism, but you can bet there would've been people laughing at her at best and throwing plenty of vitriol her way at worst.

[@Zerpentsa6598]

Remember Vic Wild who could not find any funding or help in the USA and was ignored by US Olympics body? Well, he's been winning medals since representing Russia. Contrary to some tropes, Ms Gu paid for her own training and coaching.

[@chronokoks]

Ms Gu is a daughter of a powerful Chinese ccp party mother.

[@basicallyalandershowitz]

I think your missing the point. She's actively feed the propaganda machine for a country of minions for Pu Bear that are hell bend on commiting a genocide with relative impunity. She's a sack of garbage just like LeBron and all the other sacks of garbage that engage in that market with solr product being entertainment. It's disgusting.

[@Zerpentsa6598]

@@basicallyalandershowitz You have been guzzling down in spades all the rubbish put out by Fox, CNN, Adrian Zenz, BBC, State Department, etc. People like you are so easily duped. Grow up!

[@Zerpentsa6598]

@Geba Mark Twain had a good advice and I'm taking it: don't argue with idiots.

[@崔莱]

@Geba Says the guy who's not paying for these athletes' training.

[@JQ-po7hx]

The US has took away hundreds of talented people from China over years, and now China only took one athletes from US, Americans were pissed, typical double standard.

[@freetibet8140]

Gu is a phony and a sellout who hasn't renounced her US citizenship, the IOC is bending the rules for her and china which is despicable and dishonest.

[@stevenliu3744]

@@freetibet8140 cry ab it lol loser

[@jhobs909]

At first I thought she made the wrong decision but after thinking about it she is doing what’s best for her bank account at a young age. Many other Americans have businesses in China and get wealthy. It is what it is. Once the olympics are finished it will all be forgotten anyway. Gotta be hard to turn down millions of dollars being thrown at you!

[@James-tv3gy]

You're English is horrendous

[@James-tv3gy]

Free Tibet and stop killing Ugyers

[@ezekiahseven672]

New law no dual citizenship whatsoever

[@ggs2206]

Couldn't agree more. Dual citizenship is BS.

[@1988-c2j]

For those who call them traitor now can rest in peace because another Chinese just won a gold medal for USA.

[@1988-c2j]

The first gold medal for USA

[@kellyliu1210]

They wouldn't think the other way around.

[@profile1172]

@China Life China is terrible at winter olympics what do you mean? Somehow this winter olympics china wins from dqs of literally every country. Rigged and paid. Your national teams are headed by foreign coaches. Not to mention, many chinese patriots really shows you guys have no sense of honor code. Just bug eating men

[@marke9036]

*You should said "Chinese"*

[@paulmcgrory5165]

@@profile1172 Please try and learn to be literate in English. Ailing is your model. Excellent Mandarin and English. Your post is an embarrassment. And you dare criticize Ailing. LOL

[@therealsagekitty]

She works for money. Not for Chinese also.

[@feathersswissfield8514]

Social Credit 100000000+🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼

[@truthhumanity1534]

Many foreign athletes are representing different countries of their choice

[@rossdelano7603]

and they're traitors too. Born and raised in America, you represent America. Plain and simple

[@monochrome5630]

@@rossdelano7603 is it how it works? In Dagestan there are many talented wrestlers and not all of them get a chance to represent their country in Olympics so they chose to compete representing other countries and nothing wrong with that. They put so much effort time into training and they want to get well-deserved reward.

[@jcuyoutuby]

@@rossdelano7603 There are many Caucasian Americans on the China men hockey team in the Beijing Winter Olympics. One of them is the son of a NHL hockey hall of famer. No outcry there.

[@weijin701]

Ross Delano You are nobody to set the rules. I thought the states is a free country. I guess not.

[@gokout1846]

@@weijin701 The states are a free, that's why individuals are free to chose to make good and bad choices. I don't think any Chinese citizens can represent a different country. Tell me if there are any.

[@feelingsaparana4581]

When Zhu Yi scored the lowest in her personal score, many Chinese criticized her in Weibo. Gu Ailing also said she would return to the U.S. for her studies and has not answered for sure whether she will play for the Chinese national team since the Beijing Olympics, prompting many Chinese to criticize her.

[@ggs2206]

This is why I think Eileen (or her mom) made a mistake with this decision. Instead of being America's darling and also loved in China because of her heritage and language fluency, she's now scorned in the US and treated with suspicion in China. If she switches back to represent the US in the next Olympics she might win back some support here but she will draw backlash in China. If she continues to represent China she might find herself increasingly unwelcome in the US. This decision put her in a no-win situation. People do stupid things at 15, my blame lies squarely with her mom for not helping her think things through. In fact, it might even be her decision rather than Eileen's.

[@ZhangtheGreat]

Like any sport, this is results-driven. Had both athletes competed for the US, we all know they'd still be treated differently: Eileen Gu would be hailed for her gold medals, and Zhu Yi would've been an afterthought at best.

[@steelydan1242]

Congratulation Eileen Gu for winning her Second Gold! 🥇 Eileen was raised by her Chinese mother and grandmother but her white father was never around.

[@skeetorkiftwon]

Her mother makes bad choices I see.

[@steelydan1242]

@@skeetorkiftwon She did made bad choices but her strength and love for her daughter saw Eileen brought up to be a smart and vibrant champion in sport, music and education.

[@gokout1846]

@@steelydan1242 I guess she never learned loyalty though.

[@steelydan1242]

@@gokout1846 You should tell this to Chinese Olympic athletes Nathan Chen, Karen Chen, Alysa Lou who represented America and winning Gold medal about loyalty to their motherland.

[@gokout1846]

@@steelydan1242 I just looked those three up, they were all born in USA. So what are you talking about? They aren't Chinese.

[@felixwaverley6458]

Eileeen Gu is an opportunist she did it for money

[@couch-fosbos1147]

Western companies have factories in China to maximize their profits. People buy their products. But when a young woman decides to pursue her dreams she's a traitor and the personification of evil. Right.

[@stephaniekow7265]

I personally think Eileen might have got the Chinese government to comply to her requirements in exchange for her representing China since she is one of the best freeskiers in America.

[@stephaniekow7265]

Of course her requirements might be: Eileen :"If you agree with my dual nationality I will represent China in the Olympics" China Government:"Fine but don't let anyone know about this"

[@cbulk1402]

She should give up her US citizen to represent China...

[@benzz4109]

@大漢將軍小超 Iol China is losing on there home turf That's embarrassing, you need to wake up .that's just a fact

[@MMTRU]

LOL, she switched when she was 15, 15 years old for christ sake, nobody cared back then. Now at 18 she won an Olympic gold everybody jumps out and call her traitor, what a joke.

[@ML-yu5ij]

No one is larger than the party in China. 難道妳這也不懂嗎？You must be a Taiwanese .

[@thangvuong9196]

I wonder if she will have to pay international rates to go to Stanford

[@rcl998]

with all the sponsors she got this year she can cover hundreds of standord students tuition fee. BTW there is no international rate for private university in US

[@jackyau5193]

The Chinese government paid beyond your imagination to naturalise her.

[@thangvuong9196]

@@jackyau5193 I'm sure

[@tl2245]

And good news is Stanford gave her full scholarship. And you Vietnam kids meanwhile are not so good. lol...

[@tl2245]

@@rcl998 But lunatics never need truth.. lol..

[@تونسيفينيويورك]

Reward your athletes and stop taxing them, they’ll represent the USA, Plus we never hear complaints when foreigners athletes choose to represent the USA

[@nuanced8225]

In America, these athletes are just another competitor, in China, they are celebrities.

[@sahmom6285]

The figure skater girl is the mockery of people in China. I don't think she's anybody's celebrity.

[@al28854]

I saw the Chinese hockey team play the other day, of the 22 players who dressed for China in its 8-0 loss to the U.S.17 were either born or raised in the United States or Canada. The two Americans/born and raised I'm familiar with are goalkeeper Jeremy Smith, who stopped 47 American shots in match who played for the U.S. at the 2008 world junior championships. The other is Jake Chelios, son of Hockey Hall of Famer Chris Chelios.

[@streamidata2241]

The truth is China is a better country.

[@bettertomorrow9777]

China doesn't have a hockey team or hockey league. It's a great opportunity for hockey players in the highly competitive North America to seek opportunities in China. Who knows, maybe China will start a major hockey league soon and these players will make a lot of money quickly

[@streamidata2241]

@@bettertomorrow9777 When China's wealthy population increases, the number of people try winter sports will reach 600 million or more.

[@kaixiang5390]

Did they give up their American citizenship too?

[@chenglee1241]

@@kaixiang5390 Yeah...good question........Did those 22 non-mandrin speaking "Citizens" tore up their home country passport??? They lost big time too!....why not criticized them as well?? why pick on Zhu Yi?????

[@trylogic4084]

Zhu Yi was NOT a high profile figure skater. Not even close.

[@张蓣礞]

当美国人殴打亚裔时，当美国人推倒亚裔时，当美国人将亚裔推下地铁时，当美国总统说中国病毒时，当竹子天花板存在时，就会发生这些。😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

[@madeinabyss42]

There are still millions of Chinese living in the US. Call them back to China as well.

[@jl3802]

@@madeinabyss42 There are millions of European living in USA. Call them back! You guys are not “first nations” aren’t you?

[@madeinabyss42]

@@jl3802 They are not our enemies. Chinese are.

[@greentraveler4114]

The two Chinese althletes are greatly welcomed by the absolute majority of the Chinese people but the American media just took those minor voice to attack them.

[@syp123]

Funny how people don't keep the same energy when immigrants want to be respected as Americans unless they're winning gold medal

[@Agtsmirnoff]

They aren't immigrants...

[@m.687]

Huh? Explain right now. She wasn't an immigrant.

[@Itoldyouso-q1v]

Yeah it's a bit of a betrayal.

[@cbulk1402]

@@m.687 , are you that dumb?

[@cbulk1402]

@@Agtsmirnoff Exactly...They're American...China doesn't even recognize dual citizenship...

[@sams8502]

Simple answer: money

[@matteozh39]

Haters , because they chose to compete for china

[@timw8646]

So? They are traitors for choosing china

[@freeworld88888]

Chinese IQ=106 AMERICAN iq=92

[@canicksmith6629]

Lol, if you take out certain demographics the numbers in everything skyrocket. If you added in you 600 million impoverished farmers it would be a more balanced statement.

[@mm-wn8vm]

Because China is a better country.

[@mm-wn8vm]

@taylor forbes Because its easier.

[@mm-wn8vm]

@taylor forbes She said before in an interview that the Chinese education system is superior. You can go find that out for yourself.

[@mm-wn8vm]

@taylor forbes She was born in America but wasn't entirely raised in America. Time to time her mother brings her to China to learn. She wasn't saying that she's stupid, but definitely Americans education system is inferior. I don't know about American universities as being more enjoyable than the Chinese universities. Enjoyment is subjective.

[@utopia6403]

Eileen Gu I think it was about money endorsements in China will make her millions. I do not believe she would move from the US to China it all about getting paid.

[@EZ-rs5zv]

You might be right, but isn't that what brings foreign players to the US major leagues? Unfortunately for the US now China is almost as rich and can buy talent too.

[@canicksmith6629]

@@EZ-rs5zv Pro sports is different than representing your country in the Olympics.

[@mingyuegao9050]

Do you know that she goes to Beijing almost every year to visit her grandma and other families? She speaks fluent mandarin and she even goes to extra tuition sessions in Beijing to prepare for the SAT exam. As she said, she is just as American as she is Chinese. She is no stranger to China and she has Chinese blood. Plus as a child born with clashed nationality parents (mother Chinese national, father American), she has the right to choose the nationality before she is 18 years old. China is her choice and as Americans who respect free will, why can't you just be generous about it?

[@nuanced8225]

@@EZ-rs5zv It's about milking both nations. No moral or ideological qualms.

[@dongchen7940]

@@canicksmith6629 Do you know the US Olympic team has over 40 athletes who are foreign born immigrants? Some of them even just got citizenship months before the game.

[@mungisabella9056]

as person who acctually using chinese social media , i can tell you that ther's 90% comments are appreciating for zhu yi, the usa always post what they wants to look

[@mallarysangel]

Most American media lacks credibility. Trust me, they’re biased in your favor, not against you. They’re too busy self loathing to hate you too.

[@aerix12345]

If America could treat everybody fairly and less racist, situation could have been different.

[@nuanced8225]

Do you think China is that bastion of democratic equality?

[@aerix12345]

@@nuanced8225 can't comment exactly on this but they are of different quality. America democracy is based on privilege and selected "God We Trust" where as China is based on peoples equality. The best democracy is to keep EVERYBODY not too happy about it but still bearable to live with.

[@michaeltran8079]

Money and because Asian American are not seen a "real" American hence Where are you from question!

[@ggs2206]

If that's the case then these two only further contribute to that perception, that all Chinese Americans can't be trusted.

[@tkw3864]

“Go back to China!”. So they did. Lol

[@tooomahs]

There are at least 3 White American men on China's national men's hockey team and they're solely focused on attacking Eileen Gu. You tell me why.

[@freedomlover4348]

because they are not white men.

[@ggs2206]

Because she wins, bigly. They didn't.

[@clomagro]

A Chinese person told me no matter where they are in the world. They are loyal to their people, and their mother land. Chinese people born in America are still Chinese/American. Chinese first.

[@ggs2206]

That person does not speak for all Chinese. I know plenty of ethnic Chinese people in America who feel much more American than Chinese.

[@kristyy2488]

There are so many Chinese athletes, scientists represent US, come on, can’t China have one or two? Go focus on Ethan Chen, Chloe Kim, Naomi Osaka, ask them to represent what they should represent, why only focus on Gu? If you are not politicizing her

[@fiddleronthecube7835]

Maybe if the US would stop using the hyphenated forms such as Chinese-American instead of just American when referring to American citizens of Asian descent, these two athletes might have represented the US. I think white Americans regard Eileen Gu as American while they regard Zhu Yi as Chinese-American because Gu looks white and Zhu does not. This is the "perpetual foreigner" idea.

[@Agtsmirnoff]

That practice was started by Jesse Jackson...a black man...

[@epsilonxvi5675]

​@@Agtsmirnoff that's why becareful of westernized african they have the african skin color but their mannerism and mind including behavior are white, if they hate african who come from africa because they think they are different because of culture, what's more to asian lol. i know why black on black crime is high because one is not from there and another one is born from there most african going to the west are going successful while the westernized african born in the west are not . it's because cultural different between them one come from third world were people will work hard to success and the other one come from first world where everything is easy but yet still strunggling to search for the opportunity because of laziness and ignorance.

[@zachh3582]

MONEY.

[@eggzzdee]

Cope

[@thitran3080]

Nothing wrong to have an opportunity to make millions and retire as a professional athlete at age 30. It's like telling a college grad to not take a job at Google but work as a waiter.

[@kellyliu1210]

if shd could predict she would make millions at 15, we should've all bought lots of tesla stock 10 years ago.

[@yiquny]

Gu said to promote winter sports in China. Winter sports have not been popular in China, FYI.

[@kathrynl6837]

Zhu Yi wouldn’t have made the US Women figure skating team so she switched. Eileen Gu did it for financial gain

[@berglim6218]

No different from us to switch from sports A to sports B because of higher chance to represent school team or winning a medal?

[@robvision3888]

America leads the world in foreign born athletes gaining medals for America. It’s time to let the rest of the world do the same thing America has been doing for decades

[@harryzhang3111]

USA has been attracting talents to migrate to America. China becomes attractive to talents these days.

[@jesselivermore8298]

It is hard to imagine that the United States would ask such a question! Isn't America the largest immigrant country in the world?

[@MrTnylam]

Chinese from China are some of the people that contribute the most in the US, from scientist, professors, engineers, technology and so on. In fact the US team that won the mathematician competition are all Chinese Americans. China never complains or denigrate them. Once Chinese American choosing to compete for China as a 15 year old in 2019 because of her affinity with her mom and grandma and her love for her mother's homeland and the US goes bonkers. Btw, her dad was not the one who raised her. It was her Chinese side that raised her.

[@syncmaster915n]

You guys conveniently omitted that Eileen Gu has stated that 90% of the comments in Chinese media platforms were in support of Xu Yi, didn't you?

[@jamesreed7636]

She also said china censorship isn't an issue.. just use a VPN... That post was censored.. 🤣🤣 priceless...

[@motojc]

I think the number is hard to tell. I’ve seen a lot of harsh stuff towards the poor girl

[@nmew6926]

@@motojc I also seen tons of racists and hate comments from US netizens.

[@greentraveler4114]

A lot of Chinese people who were born and raised in China but set up companies in America as well, take a look at Yahoo founder, KZbin founder, Zoom founder,etc... tons of IT engineers. Same to Indians, so why the Americans propaganda media won't whinning about why these foreign talents set up companies in America and contribute economy for America? The Americans just want everything and everybody theris, but they never look at themselves. Tesla Elon Mask from Africa, Steve Jobs from Syria,etc.. the Americans benefiting the most from talents immigration but now they are whinning talents not represent them. What a double standard.

[@will4881]

As someone who can read both Chinese and English, I am surprised that no content from Chinese social media included in this video since Christian claimed that Zhu Yi got slammed by Chinese social media. I actually read some of it, and they are positive. Of course, Christian like to muddy the water and make it terrible...

[@ML-zr4qe]

Yeah that’s cause the government was deleting all the criticisms

[@will4881]

@@ML-zr4qe Any resources or actual evidence to support your statement?

[@TCTerribleDog]

Reallt? I read people say, “ She should not join the China team if she had no potential。 She should have gave up her space for more competent people from China, writing I. Chinese, by People from China on KZbin and FB. I can get you the links.

[@nmew6926]

@@TCTerribleDog There are 900 millions Chinese using social media. How many wrote negative comments on this skater

[@namingshard17]

lmao, what's more american than transport to a new land for your own good? the US was literally built by these kinda people.

[@frostwing9046]

I have been asking the same. All these years many promising international players from other countries has been representing US. What do they get, more money, instant citizenship?? I believe there is a long list of them, but now since the tide has turned. We see Media covering the topic 😁

[@user-kl5qi2wh4o]

It's bigger news because china and US relationship is at all time lows. They are enemies

[@jamesreed7636]

That and the whole no dual citizenship in China... must have been some high level dealings to get around that law.

[@sakshamsanwaria7486]

@@jamesreed7636 Are you saying Gu possess both Chinese and US citizenship?

[@jamesreed7636]

@@sakshamsanwaria7486 yes

[@voltrondefender5]

@@jamesreed7636 Nope, she gave up her US citizenship

[@harlequin2280]

I pray that the Olympics cease to be. It's the height of human triviality.

[@SW-fy8pq]

it is a good idea. but olympics is toy project of the rich western nations, i doubt they will stop it.

[@genb4374]

Keep them in China.

[@xander_k_]

Still American, & it was still our training

[@asianamericancasestudies6434]

Chinese identity is based on ethnicity. Technically it's the father who has to be Chinese if you're a male; but for a female mixed-race, it doesn't really matter. There is no such thing as American identity, as anyone can become "American," just as white people killed off the native Americans and started to believe that whites are the real Americans--which is why black Americans are still be slaughtered after hundred of years in America.

[@xander_k_]

@@asianamericancasestudies6434 Thanks for stating your (very irrelevant) obvious point, but none of that changes the fact that she’s “American” in the context of the Olympics.

[@xander_k_]

@@asianamericancasestudies6434 Also, can you please not perpetuate the myth that police brutality is a common occurrence among black people or use the word “slaughtered” when referring to innocent black people being killed again? That’s extremely disgusting of you to say, and it’s unnecessary.

[@yijianrugu3509]

Although Gu said the reason, the media still chose to ignore her expression and let some people who didn't know her tell you the "truth"

[@berglim6218]

Well said

[@violetl.4615]

What did she say

[@condorX2]

Can't people see this: Eileen Gu is a result of the West and East working together. She's very close to her Chinese mum and Grandma who instilled in her values that belong to the East. At the same time she got educated in the US and brought up in American culture. The fact that she's become such a positive, beautiful human being tells us that when the two cultures blend in, something magical can happen. Stop hating and start working together; it'll only bring good to the world. -Sylvia C

[@EM33700]

@@condorX2 Well China overall hates democracy, so no, this belnding notion isn't going to work, and her young nativity will not age well here.

[@condorX2]

@@EM33700 Democracy only functions when the majority of participants have proper critical thinking. Otherwise, either the country comes to a full stop because people have no idea where to move, or they are misled and cast their votes carelessly, essentially becoming the slaves of large corporations. The COVID situation had exposed how superficial the concepts of democracy and freedom are in the US." -Vicviper For example More than two years into this pandemic, the United States death toll is the highest in the world. The country is closing in on 900,000 deaths, and its death rate is alarming -- particularly given that the U.S. was the one of the first to have the vaccine. Geoff Bennett looks at why the nation is struggling compared to much of the world. Source Why the COVID death rate in the U.S. is so much higher than other wealthy nations (KZbin censored the link) 👀

[@djibicisse]

One word Red packets

[@EdugeBDroN]

Being a child of immigrants I get their plight but I'm sure they wouldn't give up 🇺🇸 citizenship, their immigrant parents know better

[@ZhangtheGreat]

Zhu Yi gave up her US citizenship. Eileen Gu's status is unclear, but frankly, that shouldn't be any of our business.

[@SW-fy8pq]

@@ZhangtheGreat Many CIA funded channels on KZbin, their objective is just to smear China, so I am sure it is their business to make it look extremely terrible.

[@angeliquebacker8522]

Well, I can see them giving up their US citizenship given how China is a rich country and how bad racism and xenophobia are here. I would understand not giving up citizenship for poor countries though.

[@mingyuegao9050]

Do you know that Eileen Gu goes to Beijing almost every year to visit her grandma and other families? She speaks fluent mandarin and she even goes to extra tuition sessions in Beijing to prepare for the SAT exam. As she said, she is just as American as she is Chinese. She is no stranger to China and she has Chinese blood. Plus as a child born with clashed nationality parents (mother Chinese national, father American), she has the right to choose the nationality before she is 18 years old. China is her choice and as Americans who respect free will, why can't you just be generous about it?

[@rodochrous]

Pfffffffffft

[@madjoe8622]

When the war starts with China, she won't like her choice.

[@ggs2206]

She lives in America, and visits China, not the other way around. Plus she's also born in America. If her mom loves China so much, why did she leave?

[@dogguy8603]

She visits occupied west Taiwan, thats all, the real china is then one with the white sun flag

[@mingyuegao9050]

@@dogguy8603 Ha Ha Ha.

[@azimaging8848]

More potentials and better opportunities in a more progressive and developed China. The US market is saturated. Also these are Chinese born in the States, their roots are very deep in China, nothing will change it for centuries.

[@williamppl3624]

Something Americans do not understand. America is a country of immigrants, ask any immigrants if they love their mother country, i can assure you the majority will say yes. Most ppl only go to America for the money but their heart stay with their motherland. Let it be Mexicans, Philippines, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Brazilian ANY COUNTRY.

[@somegenericname4692]

The Chinese government ladies and gentlemen! They need American athletes to win

[@gambeeno817]

It’s a shame the public didn’t accept Zhu Yi, she’s a proud Chinese.

[@jasonm2245]

China doesn’t like foreigners, unless they bring them gold.

[@FishGutzz]

she can stay there. no room for traitors in America

[@tootspogsforever5590]

@@FishGutzz cry some more loser!!😀

[@tootspogsforever5590]

@@jasonm2245 there're tens of thousands of foreigners living in China! wth are talking about??😀

[@Jagan-lp8gu]

@@tootspogsforever5590 will they get cityzenship like this girl...

[@wm4934]

Why can't they? People go up, water flows down. If you want to retain talents, give them better offers. It's very simple.

[@boxscorewatcher413]

This is a clear indication of times changing. A new empire is replacing the old

[@willo7979]

this is media invoking executive order 9066.

[@indymk346]

Gu said she wanted to help to promote winter sports in China. That is why.

[@TypOPositiv]

I really don’t see a lot of promotional sponsors (American) wanting Eileen to represent them. It would be really bad for business.

[@shalbec3232]

She is american and chinese so she can represent either country and also eileen does not look full chine like zhu yi she is mixed race If that not obviously then look at her eyes

[@TypOPositiv]

That’s great and all. But, I’m just imagining Stanford University getting a lot of bad publicity for allowing her to attend.

[@someonenothere8818]

@@shalbec3232 ? No, it's because Zhu Yi didn't win any medals, and had a really poor performance. Had she won gold, she would have been given the same treatment.

[@chloewang339]

Obviously because of money.Chinese law can change when the government needed.

[@berglim6218]

US foreign policy also can change if you're alliance. Same recipe

[@tnguyen403]

How come no one is talking about Timothy Weah representing the US in the World Cup while his father is the 25th President of Liberia? I mean WTF? Your effing dad is the president of Liberia and you're representing the USA? Man! even Benedict Arnold would turn in his grave.

[@Been_8]

I might sound cunning and ruthless but she deserve for what she did. She is born and raised in US and trained in US but than she chose to go back to China based on her ethnicity. Isn't it betrayal to the country where she is born and brought up, trained. Even as an Indian born Australian immigrant and if I possess even 1% of talent she has, I would have never done that as it's betrayal to country you are trained and raised. Anyways she is young and God bless her

[@zsarimaxim692]

There are talents around the world that were born and trained elsewhere but came to the US for better opportunities. US often pride itself on its ability in doing just that. Why would it be a problem when the situation is reversed?

[@Been_8]

@@zsarimaxim692 She isn't an immigrant, she is born there. Also, this is different case altogather. She is representing country in Olympics. Isn't it waste of US taxpayers money whose $ were spent to build the sport facilities in US. After all US had done for her since her birth, for her quality education, her teachers, her coach, etc. dont you think mate it's fair on her part to denounce citizenship rather than representing America just because of her heritage. US has accepted her father who was Chinese immigrants that time, gave him job and livelihood with little to no prejudice and bias. Thats the beauty of democracy unlike communism. And after the ugly face Xi the Pooh is showing to the entire world - Covid coverup, uigher slave camps, Taiwan, HK, Tibet, etc, she still denounced her US citizenship for China.

[@cbulk1402]

@@zsarimaxim692 you're comparing apple to orange....She is an American born...what is it that you don't understand??? Additionally, China does not recognize dual citizen... She can do what Naomi Osaka did....give up the US citizenship....

[@zsarimaxim692]

@@Been_8 Any American born and raised in the US regardless of ethnicity can seek opportunities abroad just as many Indians born and educated in India choose to come to the US for better opportunities. Or are you calling them traitors to India? Training facilities are operated by business that hosts athletes from around the world. Your problem with China is certainly not hers and she by no mean needs to adhere to your or anyone else’s ideological indoctrination.

[@zsarimaxim692]

@@cbulk1402 And Nathan Chen is a Chinese born. Your point?

[@roger111ify]

Traitors..... have them give up their American citizenship and move there.

[@wutdafuuh]

Congrats to Eileen Gu and China for the wonderful gold medal performance. She's definitely a star and made both her countries proud. Please unite and don't divide.

[@Agtsmirnoff]

She has only one country and it's China. The USA hates her and hopes she never returns.

[@m.687]

She honestly thinks she's returning to attend Stanford in the fall. Patriots know what to do.

[@kellyliu1210]

@@m.687 you have any idea how many top science and engineering talents other underdeveloped countries produced for the US. Get used to it when one instance happens to you .

[@kellyliu1210]

@@Agtsmirnoff narrow-minded nationalists hope so, man.

[@RexMoore1984]

It probably doesn’t legally meet the definition of treason, but it sure seems like it. Can we revoke her US citizenship? Probably not. She is a disgrace to our nation. Maybe if she loves China so much, she should stay there.

[@kailashmehra7024]

So you will eat train practice do everything for USA n in USA ...then for the game u just suddenly remember that u are a Chinese damn this is the best example of Karma...... USA you really have a big heart.... 👍🏻

[@mikechan231]

Godamn it, Chinese are now making counterfeit Olympic athletes!

[@ggs2206]

I think it is important to note that Eileen Gu announced this decision 3 years ago at age 15. A lot could've happened in the intervening years, she could've gotten injured, lost interest etc. She probably didn't even know she'd become so dominant 3 years later, including growing 3" taller at age 16/17 which enabled her to do harder tricks. It wouldn't surprise me if she/her mom made this decision thinking it'd be the easier route for her to get to the Olympics, since each country can only send 3 skiers and the US already had several stars including Maggie Voisin while China had no one.

[@roudyman777]

Eileen did it for the money, she knew she would get way more endorsement $$$ from Chinese companies and even the government. Why the other woman switched when she isn't even fluent in Mandarin boggles my mind.

[@zsarimaxim692]

Better opportunities? She is unlikely to get an Olympics spot on the US skate team. This happens quiet frequently for athletes.

[@brittbrat9328]

So what if she isn't fluent🙄

[@cbulk1402]

There is nothing wrong with that, the is gifted and trained hard for it...so she have to right to chose...that is a great thing about America...but action also have consequences...

[@jamesreed7636]

@@brittbrat9328 it's a big deal there apparently.

[@jondoe6926]

Bingo.

[@ylu7450]

More people born in US compete for South American countries, Israel, Japan, .... never seen Washington Post asked the same question.

[@teacherxtraveler]

Americans need to stop picking and choosing when they want Asian Americans. How many times have we heard “go back to your country” or “go back to China” and now Olympic medalists are

[@wangsamaju5007]

since when America has lost self confidence.

[@trollol_]

anyone can download a vpn its literally free on the App Store

[@shocktrauma85]

-25,000,000 Social Credit. Please report for re-education.

[@trollol_]

@@shocktrauma85 we're uneducated

[@guslevy3506]

“Thank God I’m half Black…that is the best shield against the Lunatic Mob.” - Naomi Osaka

[@jordancarpenter4093]

No one is white or black!

[@paulmcgrory5165]

@@jordancarpenter4093 She did say she faced a backlash for choosing to compete for Japan rather than the U.S. and that some criticism focused on her race. Reference Newsweek. White racist American men apparently are a turn off champ. You would know that hey?

[@jondoe6926]

@@paulmcgrory5165 lol all you can think about is racism. Get a life. Someone took your parking spot? RACISM! You didn't get that job? RACISM. It rained and got you wet. RACISM! lollllllllllllllllllllllll

[@ggs2206]

Naomi was born in Japan and lived there til' 3. Sharapova was born in Russia and lived there til' 7. Eileen was born in the USA and grew up here her whole life. Big difference.

[@simion1232006]

I am pretty sure most comments in china are quite positive to her. People in China have bigger heart than you think.

[@moses3544]

I'm not sure that your assurance is worth to insure

[@ggs2206]

Let's see how big their hearts are when Eileen reverts back to TeamUSA for the next Olympics.

[@Peter-ox8lj]

If I am asian, I would leave usa too, no future there, all hate and doubt

[@oweerogee1263]

america is turning itself to the nation that it defeated in the second world war

[@BCM-bh]

She just love Chinese big market, people actually don't realize this. Money is her aim. A gold medal can turn into huge payback in China than America. Her team calculated this already...

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

Yeah but renouncing citizen ship n all that travel and movement offsets the cashback. I don't think it's a good idea to represent china if ur aim is to make money. Cus u gotta do it many yrs before meaning if she didn't win gold she would be broke. So it's more likely just her rather being chinese represented. Nothing wrong with anyone deciding to represent

[@terryfong9110]

Because they are sick of US lying politicians.

[@Oddi92]

Feel sorry for Zhu Yi. The Chinese should be grateful she chose to represent them.

[@zhijingchen4563]

Taiwanese 1450 were using internet violence against Zhuyi . Dumb asses been using words that's common in Taiwan but not common in mainland .

[@JQ-po7hx]

She is weak and she took the opportunities of other athletes that may have a chance to compete, instead of her, she can’t even speak fluent Chinese, cry like a baby. We simply questioning is she really qualified to go on a competition like this. Or did she steeled other’s opportunity.

[@moisesojeda1085]

why? she sucked and took another girls spot that deserved it more

[@Oddi92]

@@JQ-po7hx She was 15 when she changed her citizenship and she doesn't make the decisions around who gets to represent China in the Olympics. If you genuinely believe there were better candidates, you should perhaps shift your feelings towards the system that didn't choose the best representative.

[@wah-kengwu4483]

China sucks period a country who wipe out true Chinese tradition and willing to attack Taiwan no place in my book. Taiwan is a true Chinese country not china. China is a country lose it root. Abuse power

[@MK-we9sw]

My country has athletes who are immigrants. And there are athletes born here but represent countries they immigrated to. We don't have a problem with either group and we still view those who left as part of us.

[@EZ-rs5zv]

So the point of this story is that Chinese should adore mediocre athletes just as much as the gold medalists? I don't think that happens in the US - who do they put on Wheeties boxes?

[@vinvin1082]

please excuse my HYPOCRITICAL Americans :D

[@asianamericancasestudies6434]

Chinese identity is based on ethnicity. Technically it's the father who has to be Chinese if you're a male; but for a female mixed-race, it doesn't really matter. There is no such thing as American identity, as anyone can become "American," just as white people killed off the native Americans and started to believe that whites are the real Americans--which is why black Americans are still be slaughtered after hundred of years in America.

[@pmmodickofindia8624]

How come no usa natives competing for usa Immigrants dont count

[@paulxu9653]

I guess those haters are part of the millions of homelessness in the USA

[@canicksmith6629]

How are those concentration camps going over there. Wait don't post anything your government might lock you up.

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

@Dennisestrada ooof idk where u get that info. Even if it was true people in the US who make 100k which is top salary. At times can't afford Healthcare

[@canicksmith6629]

@@user-vv7ir1pl4j 40% of China lives on 2832 us dollars or 18k yuan.

[@user-vv7ir1pl4j]

@Canick Smith the average wage is 18k usd and spending power is 7x. Also taxes are lower. Idk u seem pretty extreme

[@basshunterdota625]

Says a 50 cent poor Chinese who can barely afford to eat ,food cooked in gutter oil as well as consuming plastic rice has given u severe brain damage .