Watch This BEFORE Buying A Rokinon 14mm F/2.8 Lens!

[@ClassicGoldCigarettes]

Some DSLR's have focus peaking. In fact, using magic lantern can add focus peaking to a 70D (which I've tried and it's awesome). Also, I could be wrong, but as long as you have exposure simulation enabled, you shouldn't run into the issue you explain around 6:20 . I use my Rokinon 85mm on my 80D all the time and never run into that issue.

[@Martyn0001]

Mine focuses at infinity at 10ft or 3M like mot of them I think. No big deal, just do some test shots and/or magnify the image in LV and mark the lens where it focuses at infinity to make it quick to find when out shooting. Also stop down to f8 for sharpness and also it makes focusing less critical as its extreme wide angle. The results are awesome for the money. Martyn UK.

[@wilhelmvongloeden]

Thanx Josh! Bought the Ronikon in a rush and found myself in difficulties about focusing... but you totally helped me out. I'm subscribing because ur really teacherly and empathetic. Cheers!

[@RedPillBroadcast]

Vid starts at 2:25

[@runningintohistory]

Unfortunately mine just died after 6 years. I loved this lens for landscape and Astro. Worked great on my Nikon and adapted to my Sonys, but something came loose inside and the barrel shifts back and forth. Camera shop advised that this lens is sealed and isn't manufactured to be able to repair internally. I am about to buy another one though. Still cheaper than $2k for the Nikon version.

[@jamesf2697]

I have a PENTAX dslr and this lens. I do have focus peaking and even with this lens if I hold down af and manually focus it does beep to confirm focus. It doesn't use a chip to confirm focus, it uses the af sensor in camera to confirm.

[@mosswareproaudio6328]

Good Video. There are some for $130 online. I already own two 55mm. One is radioactive and one not. I have 38 vintage lenses... no electrical contacts. I am a no auto guy.

[@awichiwou]

Hello! thanks for the video. A couple of coments: 1.- DLSR do have focus peaking in live view. 2.- Nikon and Pentax version of rokinong/samyang do have contacts, so you can change aperture from camera, use all metering modes, and have aperture info on the exif. 3.- With Pentax you have focus confirmation with any kind of lens, even with no contacts and old lenses. 4. -Live view on DLSR is not as the mirror less cameras, usually won't represent the picture you are going to take. Cheers!

[@01eg]

not every DLSR have a focus peaking in live view, and you still may find this lens without contact

[@awichiwou]

@@01eg off course, not all have, my comment could sound categoric, but I was only saying that focus peaking is not exclusively in mirror less, as many DSLR form middle to top range have too :D SAMYANG only have contacts for nikon and pentax mounts, all other mounts don't have contacts...

[@flyingratchet]

Fantastically articulated with many nuances here that I was unaware of, despite this being the 8th or 9th video I watched about this lens. It's obvious that you actually use this equipment and you have great communication skills. These types of more nuanced videos that are actually mapped onto reality are so refreshing in the current 'hikack the algorithm' crisis of KZbin. Keep up the good work!

[@mediamannaman]

Helpful! Even 3 years later. Here's the deal - Panasonic L-Mount came out with the 18mm F1.8 prime about a year ago. That's still about as wide as I can get on an affordable L-Mount prime lens (if affordable means < $1,000 US). Unfortunately, for real estate videos where I mount my S5 camera on a gimbal, I still need to apply some stabilization in my editor, which crops in a bit. This makes even an 18mm lens too narrow, A 14mm lens is perfect. I'll find infinite focus and mark it. Also, on the S5, I can set the ISO to 4,000 and still get a sharp image, so F2.8 is fine and I can even set aperture to F8 most of the time to keep everything sharp. This looks like a good lens for me with an L-Mount adapter!! Thanks for the review.

[@adrians.1890]

Thanks for the very informative video, even after the long winded merch-plug. One piece of advice though, "GET THE CHIPPED VERSION!!!!" It's not horrendously more expensive and not only will it make shooting easier with focus confirmation, but also enables shooting modes on your camera. It also saves EXIF info to your images and most of all, it identifies the lens to your editing software. Both Photoshop and Lightroom have lens correction preloaded for this lens that you can easily access with one click if you have the chipped version.

[@tihralahn]

How do you know if it's chipped? (Trying to buy one on ebay lol)

[@JCNOAOU]

How come you give good advice but don’t respond to the guy below question. How can you tell if chipped or not?? Appreciate your reply in advance

[@Justin-uc8sc]

@@JCNOAOU he’s all talk

[@Brandonbdk]

@@tihralahn After far as I know, chipped just means it has auto focus

[@Brandonbdk]

@@JCNOAOU chipped means it has autofocus as compared to manual focus

[@leonardorser3455]

How do you take flat frames with it.? Other than just pointing it at a cloudless sky.?

[@fernandolardizabal458]

Thanks for the review. 5:40 - With Nikon version this is not a problem. The non Cpu parameter lets you set the base info in the camera settings. So there is that. This lens has loads of distortion, fixable with light room lens profile.

[@VolkswagenNut1969]

Picked up one of these as a wide angle backup lens….great tip on tricking the camera to remember a certain F-stop for live view when I use it, I’ll remember that, thank you!

[@troylau2683]

Man, I don’t have a single negative thing to say about this video. You’re a champ. Genuinely enjoyed watching this

[@JoshWiniarski]

Appreciate that, it makes my day reading comments like this!

[@ministryofgirl]

Thanks for making this review - your video was really informative! Now I’m having second thoughts on this lens haha, time to hunt for some other ones out there on the market

[@JoshWiniarski]

Happy to help! It's a great lens optically, but definitely not as simple to use as if you buy one from your camera manufacturer!

[@Brond.]

I have this lens it’s awesome, and heavy which I like

[@martinene3141]

Can you use this for real estate?

[@Martyn0001]

Also the Pentax version is coupled with the electronics so records the aperture.

[@chuckcarter7181]

Well done, Thanks Josh!

[@cevoner]

I like the Irix 15mm f2.4 lens as it does not have the quirks of the Rokinon 14mm. My Rokinon focuses at weird places and I did have trouble finding focus in the dark. I have both & prefer the Irix as the Rokinon takes some getting use to. Not too standard.

[@EddieInzauto]

What you’re saying about the aperture value doesn’t apply to mirrorless. My Fujis, for example, will give no aperture value in the EXIF, but they expose based on the light, not the F value, which reads 1 or 0. But every wide Samyinon lens I’ve used has had inaccurate infinity markings. 😕 Not their 35mm 1.2, though. That thing is amazing.

[@broben87]

Thank you for the review! really in depth and answers questions that people have when searching for this video.

[@heatherguilford9849]

My D850 has focus peeking, 3 levels of it in fact. Works beautifully every time.

[@milanhenegamage3576]

Yes. Also my 780

[@anatolyivanov890]

6:50 - I didn't suspect that DSLRs have this weird problem.

[@kodefashmodefa]

@ 3:55 hah he say “people doodoo” so true… we do.

[@cdphotography2]

I guess that’s something we all do do 😂😂. Nice video review. Own one Rokinon thinking about this lens.

[@EP-pg3xs]

Never knew about manual focus beeping if half way pressed, Thanks!

[@JoshWiniarski]

Happy to help!

[@EP-pg3xs]

@@JoshWiniarski but I think it works on Canon I don’t think it works on Nikon?

[@roguestarr4382]

just found your channel. it popped up in my recommendations because i was looking for vids on how to repair the 75-300mm and your 5 reasons to use the lens came up. I see that youre in located in the PNW so i have to show my support.

[@MrGeert1972]

I have a Samyang 135mm F2 lens and it does communicate with my Nikon D5600. I can see me meta data like shutter speed aperture and iso

[@stuartcarter7053]

Good review! Explained a lot of things I didn't understand.

[@JoshWiniarski]

Glad it was helpful!

[@highwayman1224]

I just started taking milky-way pictures last week with my new samyang 24mm 1.8 and after seeing pictures taken with a 14mm lens and seeing all of the extra sky in the frame, I just ordered this rokinon lens. I hate this hobby.... 😂😂😂

[@tsunamiwave3851]

There is an AE version of this lens (at least for Nikon), it will give you focus confirmation as well as correct exposure metering. While reviewing this lens, you say nothing about the distortion this lens is infamous for. The Samyang XP 14mm f/2,4 manual focus, is supposed to be a very good lens, although at a much higher price.

[@RSdd11]

The depth of field is so huge that I just zone focus and dont worry about the AE chip that mine has. Look up the youtube vid on how to calibrate the distance markings. Its easy to adjust.

[@sethie_shots]

I bit the bullet and bought the nikon 14-24 (used but mint) Doing side by side tests right now. An excuse to shoot :)

[@MoChev20]

I heard the 90d has focus peeking.

[@stephanw196]

you mention that there are bad copies of this lens. Is there a good way of testing? Maybe something including a standard condition?

[@JoshWiniarski]

Favorite lenses for astrophotography???

[@SoulYT-jw5tj]

Idk r teles good for astrophotography

[@sethie_shots]

@@SoulYT-jw5tj the can be, but you have to use much different settings, otherwise you’ll get motion blur. The 500 rule is a good starting point. Search that for Astro

[@user-io2ok8xn3b]

why can't I get this Lense to manual focus on my Rebel T7

[@Ghatbkk]

Thank you for this review. I was considering between the Samyung or the IRIX. Going with one of the IRIX.

[@flashback7218]

Is it good for shooting videos

[@thierrygillard6896]

Hi, sure it's not a unicorn, but you really have a decent quality worth your money. You may have to adapt more to it than the lens will adapt to you, but this slight change of paradigm puts you in charge.

[@bja5150]

Good info...thought I was doing something wrong with this lens. Interesting quarks too...great to know

[@Bahama08]

Josh great video. Is this a suitable lens for indoor (2.8) realestate photography please?

[@AntPDC]

There IS focus confirmation for all manual lenses when using Nikon DSLRs via the phase/contrast detection system. I should imagine many other brands use a similar system as well.

[@thtgrldiana6388]

Thanks for this awesome heads-up perspective!! I just opened my 12MM Rokinon and i was able to shoot only two short minute video clips. I tested other canon lenses then retried the Rok. now it is not taking any images or vids. do you have a troubleshooting video or have links to share for how to use and troubleshoot the Rok. lens!!

[@allanmurray4156]

Great review dude as i was stuck between this and the 10mm samyang lens, this lens is gonna be my next upgrade, and im wondering how it will perfom with my canon eos 200d as its a crop sensor camera, im currently using the kit lens and the nifty 50 but want to be able to take sharper pics of the stars & milkyway and this lens looks to be ideal, i can do without autofocus as been using manual focus when taking pics of the nightsky. The kit lens sometimes has problems focusing to infinity as stars dont show up on the live view even with the iso turned all the way up.

[@kalef1234]

I got a bad copy off ebay, can't return but bought an open box 'Series II' version. Quality control must've improved because this one is way sharper. my original version was badly decentered. The series II has a nice focus ring lock and just feels AMAZING overall in terms of build quality. was only $279 on adorama too

[@beejay_xo6820]

Sorry, late to this video, you said about setting tge previous lense to f2.8 before changing so your camera knows the appature, what if i dont have a lense that low? Shoukd i just avoid this lense? I want something cheao for astrophotography :(

[@mytravellinfo]

So much talk about the lens hardware and basic lesson but about the image quality output and some sample images? You skipped that part.

[@humamuddinabusamah7652]

Thanks Josh. Got it one today. Gonna try my luck tonight.

[@JoshWiniarski]

Excited for you!

[@sethie_shots]

I have a chipped one. Maybe it’s a ii or something. Not the end of the world for non chipped lenses. For my nikon I use “non cpu” settings. Nikon’s are cool for that, and all the super old sweet glass you can throw on it. Cheers, great vid :)

[@dhanushka931]

Isn’t there a version of it that has he chip?

[@c0gsinc0gs]

I have the Rokinon 16mm f/2.0 that I bought for astro photograhy and use it on an 80D. It does seem to have a lot of quirks, especially with getting the exposure right in live view. Seems like only AV mode worked at all and Manual was terribly under exposed to the point where the screen was nearly black. I tried setting the aperture with another lens as you suggest here, to see if that would allow me to use M mode and it worked better. Still not seeing accurate exposure in Live Mode but it's usable at least.

[@dipsylogic1715]

Well its manual mode.....can't you adjust the settings to make it not under exposed?

[@globally123]

Thanks for the advice cheers

[@area51xi]

What's the link to the gear garage??

[@devintheartkid]

i cant find the page on amazon

[@michaelkress84]

If you have a mirrorless, you can get an adapter with drop in filters :)

[@johnericpaclawon668]

How can i set it up on canon m50?

[@mybetterfilms]

Can I use this on a canon r5 if I get an EF to R mount?

[@yasharkiarashi7545]

Thank you Josh! How do you compare Nikon 14mm 1.4 vs Nikon 14-24mm? I guess they fall in the same price range. Thanks.

[@JoshWiniarski]

Unfortunately, I don't shoot Nikon, so I'm not a reliable source on their lenses. Hopefully you can find the information you need though!

[@sethie_shots]

I’m shooting the differences right now with my 14-24 and Nik 800e

[@douglasestrada26]

Thanks for the video, a lot of good info!. I have the 10mm, 16mm and the 135mm for my nikon D7500, they work great for everything, portraits and astrophotography, also great for video..

[@JoshWiniarski]

Great to hear!

[@andrewharo3841]

For astrophotography, would you recommend the Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 lens with the AE chip?

[@RSdd11]

I got the one with the AE chip, but in hindsight don't need it. This lens is great in that you can set it to f5.6 and put it just below the 7 foot mark and literally everything is in focus. For astro, I just zoom in on a star with the magnifier and fine tune it. Honestly I never focus it on landscapes and just leave it on one focus distance.

[@Ltrinityradio777]

What is the best lens for videos on a REBEL T8i?

[@jamesf2697]

Also my PENTAX when you attach the lens it asks me hey what apeture are you using.

[@wanderpoltv4990]

It doesn't affect with my sony A7ii. What you can see in the liuve view is the same as the photo you have taken.

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Power of mirrorless. 💚 the A7

[@saga-raw]

confused between the Rokinon 14mm 2.8 and tokina 11-16 2.8. thoughts?

[@sethie_shots]

If you’re ever going to switch to full frame, go for the 14 2.8 bc it’s a full frame lens. The tokina is a crop lens. Although- you can cheat with the 11-16, it fill the full frame at 16mm. I have both lenses and have done exactly that on FF

[@mazurindependentfilmmaking2713]

@@sethie_shots so how do you feel rokinon plays vs tokina? Ever tried canon 10-18/10-22? Video!

[@bulletsandserenades]

Late commenter here but I originally had the Samyang version a year ago and missed it so much that I just bought the rokinon version. Same lens but great value! Also awesome video, thank you for making it informative. I didn’t even know about some of the issues

[@DOM_4GOOD]

6:27 dont have this issue with my nikon d7200. i even have the focus dot in camera viewer

[@MrFreakwent]

Nikon versions have an AE chip.

[@pi.actual]

I bought one for astro-time-lapse and discovered on my first night out that the camera's interferometer (Nikon D5300) doesn't work with a manual lens, even with the AE chip. So you will need an external Interferometer (not expensive). Also, if you have a Nikon APS-C this will be a 21mm focal length. It's still a good lens though and you can't beat the price.

[@caviestcaveman8691]

You mean intervolometer?

[@pi.actual]

@@caviestcaveman8691 Yes, intervalometer. Thanks for catching that. Maybe spellcheck got me? But I used to work with ring laser inertial reference devices and I actually do know what an interferometer is so maybe I just unconsciously typed it. My mistake.

[@caviestcaveman8691]

@@pi.actual lol I was just curious im new to this hobby

[@caviestcaveman8691]

@@pi.actual i got a nikon recently and you think I should get an external intervalometer?

[@pi.actual]

@@caviestcaveman8691 The camera has one built in but it won't work with the Rokinon lens because it does not have all of the auto function connections. They are not expensive so if you want to use the Rokinon and want to do time lapse and such you'll need one.

[@R20C]

good advice i always wanted Rokinon 85mm 1.5 for canon

[@JoshWiniarski]

I bet 85mm at 1.5 looks INSANELY good!

[@jaeartell3512]

I have a canon ef -roki lens and the 35mm for my Sony the quality is amazing.

[@smitty54017]

I have the 8mm fisheye. One of the sharpest lenses I’ve ever owned. A bargain.

[@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx919]

I have a Samyang 12mm F2 on my Sony A6000, only like taking captures of the aurora, would I benefit from the 14mm or is there any other good lenses for astro

[@willg125]

You may or may not benefit from this lens, since this lens is made for larger, full frame sensor cameras. This lens will actually look like a 21mm lens if you were to attach it to your a6000. In terms of aperture, this lens on your camera will have an effective aperture of about 4.28 and not 2.8, so also bear that in mind. For your specific use it might be worth the purchase, but I'm not an astro photographer, so I wouldn't know.

[@niestety1967]

Dzięki Panie. Krótko, zwięźle i na temat.👍👌. Chyba kupię...

[@cey1]

I'm extremely new to photography, so my question is: Will an intervalometer work with this lens? From what you've described it might not..

[@JA2005]

Great video as always

[@antjarvis]

Beautiful.

[@saivonhoward795]

What if the lens I used before doesn't go down all the way to f/2.8

[@shaunellis6776]

Will it be good for northern lights??

[@TheMirolab]

Of Course!

[@tihralahn]

Can you do a video showing the lens so that we know what the non-chipped version looks like? I'm trying to buy a chipped one on Ebay :P

[@MILORT]

thnx ok

[@lisalee2738]

Buy this lenses if you are interested in figuring out all kinds of problems and you have much time to waste on solving all kinds of problems. If not buy a better and more expensive one!!!

[@leoanon4429]

Not everyone is in a financial position to purchase other brands. I have the Rokinon 14mm F2.8 and I recently purchased an used D810 Nikon and I love the astrophotography results shooting the Milky Way. A genuine Nikon lens to do the same job is around $2500AU and I just don't have that money as a pensioner. My first copy wouldn't achieve infinity focus but it was quickly swapped over by the seller and other than being a case of play for a while to get focus (I originally had it on an older Nikon D80 without live view) I'm impressed with the results. One mention Josh, you said something about removing the rubber focus ring and adjusting screws to correct focus, apparently that works on the Rokinon 135mm, I took a chance and tried it on my Rokinon 35mm F1.4 and it's just not that simple or do-able as far as I could find. I ended up with the lens half stripped down and still didn't find any way to adjust the infinity focus on the lens and decided to reassemble it before I ended up with a totally unusable lens. It focuses at higher F ratios so I'll use it as an F2 lens.

[@Ltrinityradio777]

Is this lens good for making videos ??

[@grt6802]

Nice video!

[@JoshWiniarski]

Thanks!

[@mariosal02680]

have this lens and just broke into pieces into my camera bag. built quality is not so good.

[@PavelLukl]

All metal construction? Other than the lens hood, or the body, or half the interior components.... It's mainly a decent quality plastic... Like most of the MF samyang lenses....

[@AviRochester]

Rockinon gives distorted images so what do we do? Gave an endless picture. The bitter taste of the cheap remains for a long time. Serious photographers will not buy it for even a single dollar.So Rokinon will redesign the lens if they want to purchase their own lens. Lenses of this type are for professional photographers who shoot architecture and such a lens will not do the job.

[@TheMirolab]

If you are a professional shooting architecture, then YES you need a lens with better geometry. You cannot expect a $300 lens to give pro results, but that doesn't mean it's not a great value. If I'm shooting nature, there are no lines that need to be kept straight. But I do want reasonable sharpness.

[@shubhflys]

Hey ! Bro i the one whom you talked on insta, you are really a sweet person ♥️

[@JoshWiniarski]

Hey thanks, good to see you on KZbin!

[@R20C]

hell yah he replied me a live video once 🙃

[@1911geek]

Too much "I" that's given if the I is credit with knowledge and experience having a proven portfolion. Humility and walk the walk will learn more

[@Artur_Ice]

Половина видео болтовня ни о чем.

[@karamjitsingh1116]

🤩🤩

[@JoshWiniarski]

😁