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[@TheHEADPHONEShow]

Just a heads up, the HD6XX went up in price right as DMS was putting this vid together. It's now $279. Still an easy headphone to recommend at that price but not as crazy good value as before.

[@jondough7823]

I just noticed that also. Makes the Sundaras even more appealing at $299!

[@dangerzone007]

To get the best out of the 6XX you need a good tube amp. Even then you have to put up with substandard bass. So it's different headphones for different genres.

[@8lec_R]

goddamn, why does this happen always

[@dhruvmeena96]

DMS influence makes headphone expensive Noice i need DMS powaah

[@theaudiophileshow4410]

I thought I was missing something myself as I recorded a video just yesterday and checked the price for reference and I was like "was this always $279? 🤷‍♂But to be honest, I think the $280 bracket is still more suited for the 6xx. I would still Recommend It even at $300 tbh. I still prefer them to my sundaras and I LOVE the sundaras. But there's lots of complexities and subjectivity to consider when making statements like that. ✌ - Obsidian

[@Rockoslab]

The 990's are open back 770's. These things have been staples in pro audio for almost 40 years. They have an excellent reputation.

[@NoHairMan]

Maybe for mixing but not for music enjoyment . Edit: Nobody mixes on these. They are only used for tracking.

[@Rockoslab]

@@NoHairMan this guys claim is that they have a bad reputation in the pro audio world. My comment is in response to that. Who likes them or doesnt like them for enjoying they're favorite song is none of my business.

[@NoHairMan]

@@Rockoslab no he said "audio community" not "pro audio community". That clain is true.

[@Rockoslab]

@@NoHairMan i think you're splitting hairs... who in the world is "the audio community" if not the pro audio community? Or at least ameture audio engineers and producers. People concerned with audio. Otherwise he's talking about music listeners who certainly are not "the audio community". There are a group of people concerned with "high fi audio". The grado crowd. But he didnt say "HIGH FI" either. So seeing that these cans are explicitly made for and marketed to the pro audio community, it's a safe assumtion.

[@CM-dw3gh]

​@@NoHairMan so is it the 770's that are best for listening to music only?

[@averysmith5246]

Curious as to where you got your perspective of the DT990 Pro as being "notoriously bad in the audio community". I could not find anyone sharing that same negative sentiment. Those in the audio community definitely recommend more expensive headphones, but in the sub $175 range, I couldn't find anyone knocking them but most saying they are possibly the value king for that price range. Just genuinely curious as how you came to that conclusion.

[@shinodaprime9182]

I agree. I was actually told that its the best headset you can buy for 200$ or less, and that was said to me by a AAA Game Studio Sound Engineer

[@dingdongtingtong]

It's very evident you don't know what you're talking about. Even though you couldn't find any specific examples, it's just very very well known that these are objective shitty headphones based on ideal frequency responses.

[@TzeLegend]

@@dingdongtingtong source: you made it the fuck up lol

[@dingdongtingtong]

​@@TzeLegend he literally shows charts in the video proving me right. 0:49

[@MattMerkle]

@@dingdongtingtong there's no such thing as ideal freq responses. There's different targets for mixing, enjoyment, gaming, all sorts of stuff. No one claims this headphone is flat or Harmon. What they do claim is that it's enjoyable to listen or mix to. And like the original commenter said, most agree, in this price range.

[@bindstf2]

Revisiting this video, the graph presented for the DT990 pro seems significantly harsher than other graphs I've seen for the same headphone; crinacle's, for example (also the 250 ohm version), measures very similar to the TYGR 300 R, which is recommended in this very video. Is it possible that Beyerdynamic have changed the DT990 pro's treble response since you got your pair back in 2017?

[@toneseal]

This video was brought to my attention, and after watching it I felt compelled to comment on the information presented therein. As a professional audio engineer with 30 years of experience in the music industry, I completely disagree with the views expressed within this clip. The Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro headphones are tuned for a specific purpose, being monitoring in professional environments.The reason that the highs are accentuated is to allow for critical evaluation of the top-end during certain procedures of mixdown and/or mastering processes. They are monitors designed for PROFESSIONAL applications, not gaming. For someone to come out and make such bold statements like what we observed in this video is somewhat irresponsible, and it clearly illustrates their lack of knowledge in this field.

[@everettedl]

The 560s was my first audiophile headphone. It wasn't until I tried a bunch of others (including the hd800s) and came back to it that I realized how damn good it is overall. It's nuts what you get for less than 200 usd.

[@bla_ank]

It's such a hard headphone to "upgrade" from. Every time I'd spend serious cash on fancier headphones, the 560s would still do certain things better. It's like a character in an RPG with every stat at 9/10. It spoils you

[@everettedl]

@@bla_ank exactly! That's a really accurate way of describing it.

[@josephdesantis7494]

@@bla_ank I am loving my 560s , I was going to drop upwards of $300 but got these for $150. I kinda wish they had a 560s but with the build quality / design look for the 6x0 series. in that $200-300 price range. I feel like you go from the 560s to the 800s (or $150-1,500) for the next step up in gaming head phones. That is a steep price jump

[@bla_ank]

@@josephdesantis7494 Completely agree. If the 560s had the chassis + detail retrieval of a 6 series, I would gladly drop $300 or more

[@NFStopsnuf]

Yup 560s makes me feel like I'm actually transported back to the concert hall when listening to recordings of Mahler's symphonies

[@rocktopu5]

The Sennheiser HD560S is fantastic for gaming. I also recently got a HiFIMAN Arya SE which technically has better detail and imaging but when I want to tryhard at gaming I switch to the 560S because the Arya is TOO detailed and I hear absolutely everything equally whereas the 560S has more focus on those frequencies where gunshots and footsteps happen.

[@drewmorg.]

Try the 560S with SteelSeries Sonar "Spatial Imaging". Best processing I've heard to date. The demo inside the app and subsequent playtime will sell you in minutes. I use the speaker setting closest to my head for max detail in competitive FPS.

[@DG191145]

I do have high freq hearing loss. Use a dt990 pro off an otl amp for over 10 years. It's a fun listen for me to this day. But it's not the only headphone that i have. Variety is a good thing ...

[@guus007]

DT990 and tubes go well together. I love OTL

[@Cheecken]

My DT990s arrived only about 30 minutes ago and they are excellent! Can't wait to finally edit and mix to these. Just my two cents of course.

[@GamerDesdeLos90s]

DT990 Pro are sharp, like yeah, they can hurt your eardrums sharp. The key to daily drive them, specially for long gaming sessions, is to mix them with a tube amp. Tubes will bring those sharp trebles down just enough to be super comfy. Plus you get the added bonus to hear footsteps so clearly that you can pinpoint with your eyes closed, and the amplitude, its just wow!

[@launchpadmcquack98]

Or you can just EQ them for free...

[@barackputin]

@@launchpadmcquack98Analogue eq is always better than digital eq

[@Artoria858]

Oh boy here we go once again

[@XmanF16]

i swear bro its like when ever i buy something i see s video like that xd

[@bla_ank]

I completely second the 560s recommendation. It's like a more detailed, analytically-oriented version of the pc38x. Comparable imaging, but with no boomy bass drowning out sound cues. The flat response also makes it a bit of a swiss-army-knife. It does it all; movies, games, conference calls-- everything sounds correct. It's probably the best value in audio for entry level consumers looking for a jack-of-all-trades headphone that requires minimal amplification investment. The 6xx has a particular niche (music), and it doesn't come to life until you give it specialized gear. Also worth checking out is the Beyer 900 pro x. Unlike the Tygr, it has a flat response and detachable cable. It's currently only $159 for a B-stock unit when purchased through the Beyer outlet sale, and runs at 45 ohms. When you consider the cost of a dac/amp setup, this makes it a strong value contender. Worth noting though, is that a flat response is more desirable for competitive gamers. Casual gamers will prefer the immersion created by the bassy tunings of the pc38x and TYGR

[@warmlycalculated390]

560s is not the best for movies without an EQ; the upper mids are shouty so voices sound nasally and honky, and most film bass is geared towards the mid bass which is "too accurate" on the 560.

[@bla_ank]

@@warmlycalculated390 Sure, it’s not the absolute best, but the angled drivers and relatively wide staging give it more of an airy ‘speaker room’ presentation when compared to the intimate, “3 blob” effect produced by 6 series senns. An EQ tweak is easier to pull off than changing the way a headphone presents sound. I personally didn’t notice any honk issues or nasal qualities, but I’ve heard that perception of the 560’s sound will vary depending on how it’s seated on the user’s head. This might factor in to why we both perceive it differently, but we may just have different preferences.

[@warmlycalculated390]

@@bla_ank I mean, the 560s might be the single best headphone in its price bracket... and possibly the best price-to-performance ratio in headphone history. IMHO the 6XX is about 1% better for nearly 200% the cost. I just prefer recessed mids for movies, sounds more natural to me. Try the HD 599, the cheap SHP9600 or if you're made of money, the Ananda sometime. To be clear, I think recessed mids sound terrible for music

[@HOTSPEEDMike]

Yes BUT it's much clever to save some coin and just get HD599 for like 50$ less basically same thing. They have muddy upper bass, though easily fixable I wouldn't listen to them without EQ, but similarly 560s requires EQing as well. Additional short cable that comes with HD599 adds more to it's value.

[@warmlycalculated390]

@@HOTSPEEDMike What EQ would you recommend for the 560S?

[@tommihommi1]

The K-702 and K-612 are exactly the same price as the DT-990 and a entirely different league.

[@jakeflicks]

I second this, don’t know why it wasn’t in the video

[@NO_SIMP_ZONE]

K702 is a phenomenal headphone. An almost perfectly tuned frequency response save for a tastefully done 2k bump. Stunning with classical music. Needs some juice to get going though

[@augustriandyrizkymaris2894]

damn right you are sir!!

[@zthreetwo9874]

@@NO_SIMP_ZONE k702 can be shouty compared to dt990 but not as Sibilant. I use both and are equally good tbh

[@Kenan_Guney]

AKGs are too colored... Not any other headphone especially in it's price point can touch DT990 Pro, period.

[@michaelmoorehouse8440]

I bought my HD560s on DMS and Badseed's recommendation way back over a year ago, absolutely love them to death. I have since upgraded to the Blessing 2's, but nothing matches the hd560s in terms of imaging, stage, and accuracy. People WILL accuse you of hacking, solely because you can hear them, and they can't hear you. P.S. much love from 585

[@chaddowney5845]

the PC38X has meh vertical imaging, though. I have the DT 900 Pro X and they have fantastic vertical imaging. I can now tell if someone is above, below, or on my level.

[@ronaldliu2434]

I don't get the hate. DT990 PRO sounds good to me right out of the box with no EQ. It sounds good when I hooked it up to JDS Labs Element III MK 2 for DAC/AMP. It sounds even better when I chain Element III to Accuphase pre-amp for headphone output. It is transparent, has good and fast bass, excellent soundstage and imaging. I love it and it is less than $250 CAD. I actually refunded Hifiman Sundara before I bought DT990 PRO. Lucky enough to be able to audition DT770 PRO from a friend and I knew immediately Beyerdynamic is what I like. I would consider myself part of the audiophile community having owned Wilson Audio & Magnepan speakers, VTL tube monoblock amps, Accuphase pre & power amps, Mark Levinson CD processor, and various interconnects and power cables worth way more than top tier headphones mentioned in this channel.

[@mndlessdrwer]

I'm personally a huge fan of the AKG K371. It is just unusually revealing in the bass and midbass regions so poor quality track encoding or poor quality mixing/mastering/recordings will sound very odd on the K371. It's been on sale for a bit now at around $110 and it's a great value at that price. Stage is very wide but not spectacularly deep. Imaging is also good and sound sources are placed accurately. Detail retrieval is also good throughout its FR and it has some nicely managed treble gain with an anti-fatigue notch that keeps it from being overly harsh or shouty. It's also only 32ohm and high sensitivity, making it trivially easy to drive. The extra bass gain that they got from the large driver in a sealed design also doesn't go amiss for gaming applications where you want to feel the punchy bass of gunfire or the rumble of an aggressively bassy background track. If you don't own this set then you should consider at least finding a shop near you to demo it at. It's pretty special and the price is very competitive. They even make a bluetooth version.

[@Mr.Deeds.]

One of my favorites :)

[@mrnelsonius5631]

I used to love my friends AKGs but I’ve been scared off buying any recently. Most reviews on Amazon say the build quality has absolutely tanked when their manufacturing location changed. I’ve been curious if these are counterfeits since the prices are always cheaper than other places, even though it says “AKG Store”

[@mndlessdrwer]

@@mrnelsonius5631 idk. The ones I got my friend came from Guitar Center. Quality seemed a bit on the low side for a "premium" product, but easily in line for the actual cost of the headphones. Seemed reasonably well made and very comfortable despite the lack of foam in the headband pad. The air cushion seems to work just fine and the ear pads are comfy and have pretty minimal clamping force, so they're not ideal for activities, but they are comfortable enough to wear for hours.

[@mndlessdrwer]

@@mrnelsonius5631 The K361 are definitely a cheaper variant, so maybe they are reviews on that one? Not sure. The K361 are still good headphones, just with a much lighter and more plastic-forward build. They are also more bass-heavy and have a muddier, less resolving sound signature. Not bad, but not as good as the K371, in my opinion. All else fails, I'd just buy them from a trusted seller and wait the extra shipping time to get them. Unfortunately, it looks like their pricing (as of October 22, 2022) has returned to around $175, which is considerably more expensive than I paid a few months ago. I still think they're a competitive offering even at that price, but then you're no longer at the "buy it just to see" kind of throwaway price point.

[@drewmorg.]

@@mndlessdrwer I own 560S but I've EQ'd them pretty heavily for daily use. They are technically excellent and everything people say about the sound stage and imaging is true. The treble doesn't need much help but the bass is quite pathetic for hip hop and the mids sound shoutty to me. A V shape EQ makes them considerably better. I'm interested in the K371 since they start out more naturally this way. I may keep both.

[@allancopland1768]

Just ignore this and get yourself a lovely pair of DT990's like I did years ago. I still love them. I also have a few other pairs of headphones.

[@Hawkaone]

i love these headphones and i didn't even realise ninja had them.

[@junzhang2087]

DT990 is fun to listen to. Though it’s a v shape FR. I paired it with tube amp to tame its HF.

[@beezlebub3955]

I’m curious what amp you got. I haven’t gotten one yet but in the past I had a pair 770’s and 2 different Xduoo’s that I rolled tubes in, had quite a bit of fun with that Also i have a pair of 990’s now, and I like them more than the 770’s, was a good upgrade

[@PartyMusic775]

@@beezlebub3955 770s are best closed-back under $200. For open-back in this price range, there are lot of other choices. So I would've kept the 770 for isolation listening and got something else for open-back.

[@TheDavidKettle]

The 990's are designed for mixing and production ~ not to listen to music for enjoyment or gaming. (You're a gamer not a producer yeah?) They're also 240ohm so if don't have and external sound card you wont be providing them with enough power (they will sound quiet). Eq info is correct but in production you would balance your monitor output. You're convincing in the way that you preach but you're not really making sense....

[@balakebeats5590]

Every engineer i know has a pair of these for mixing and the mixes sound incredible

[@Oriontheman455]

it definitely needs to be on my head 💀💀 i have it on now

[@xzoticgamer3390]

Thanks! You gave me a lot of great choices to choose from and saved me from buying the dt 990pro. Thanks again!

[@brandonwang6518]

Please don't make your statements so absolute. These are just your own opinion and your own comments, which I absolutely respect. These comments probably would be useful for entry level headphone buyers or people who are simply buying headphones for the sake of just listening to music or playing games. However, DT 990 Pro is indeed a famous set of headphones in Audiophile community, as we don't just want to comfortably listen to music/play games, we want to dig more. Not only we pursuit high resolution performances, we also love to try different, maybe even interesting, sounds from different headphones. And that is what DT 990 Pro famous for because they are indeed delivering very accurate sound image and extraordinary soundstage, and they are absolutely Hi Res headphones! Maybe you don't like high pitch on treble, but that only represent you, not entire community. People who love DT 990 Pro are not the outliers, but you, who don't like it, are the outlier. We do respect your opinion, believe me I do, but just don't raise up your own opinion as community standard. Thank you.

[@Drinkyoghurt]

It's weird to see you making this review again and not taking anything with you from the last time. I never had issues with the 250Ohm version of the 990 Pro sounding muddy, only the 80ohm version (and it's noticeable). The Tygr 300 R is ok, but not my cup of tea at all, very sterile and no musicality like the DT880 Pro but even more "mellow". My 990 Pro was a bit sibilant initially but after the pads wore in it sounds very balanced which is what a lot of others also say. I replaced the pads once, but that brought back the harsh highs so I just kept the old pads on, problem solved. Wanna have a good and cheap pair of headphones that have great imaging, are light and open and non-intrusive? Get some Apple earpods for $15. They've been my go to for gaming and I've tried a lot of headphones/in-ears.

[@SugaFree2387]

I kinda have to disagree with this. I personally hate the DT990 out the box, but when its burned in and the pads have flattened, its one of the most smoothest headphones out there.

[@samuelb.107]

I used them for years and went thogh an few origal pads and than switched to dekoni velur and realy liked it.

[@OfoeNelson]

Would be neat to see the same graph you showed for the DT990 for all the other headphones

[@NoHairMan]

There are some good databases, you just have it look it up.

[@OfoeNelson]

@@NoHairMan Would love to see a link my man. The internet is a big ass place lol

[@NoHairMan]

@@OfoeNelson I think the reply got deleted so I can't give you links. Try searching: "headphonedatabase" "Crinacle database" "rtings database" (dont read the reviews there) I recommend reading Crin's "Graphs 101: How to Read Headphone Measurements" before you jump in.

[@OfoeNelson]

@@NoHairMan Ok thanks man. Appreciate it.

[@NoHairMan]

@@OfoeNelson You are welcome

[@ildarkinildarkin]

DT 990 are for music production especially for mixing/mastering. They are not for gamers and listening to music as there are plenty of other headphones with a higher bass levels. Take a look at Audio-Technica M50X, or Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro for listening and gaming.

[@Omar_ZX]

At studio gigs back then sometimes I would encounter the 990 and imma say for mixing they're just ok, for tracking they are pretty aight, but actually tryna listen to a mostly completed mix is absolutely a no go, I grab their 7506's or their dt770's off the wall if I wanna hear it good. Thank god nowadays studios prefer to use the 7506 and the dt770 in conjunction with something less harsh and bloated

[@jelaniblake3812]

This seems like a matter of a use case mismatch to me. These are meant for analysis use in audio engineering. The spike in certain frequencies is meant to allow for closer examination of certain elements in recordings and mixes and so on. These aren't really meant for recreational listening or pro gaming use.

[@NoHairMan]

THANK YOU! Pls more of these warning videos.

[@uselessoldman7964]

regardless of your advice to viewers the DT 990 Pro are great value headphones for those who know how to use them properly. Whilst gamers can obviously use them they were designed for studio work and for what they were originally designed for they are hard if not impossible to beat for the money

[@georgemoses]

Open back headphones are for mixing and audio production not gaming lmaooo

[@Cyan37]

I'm still using my 2013 Astro A40. I think astro quickly noticed that they made way too good of a product and quickly corrected that in 2015 with the TR version which is garbage. It's a real shame mine are now slowly dying after 11 years because it's impossible to replace. Have looked at multiple alternatives and tried a few, none have been up there with the old A40. :(

[@tomcs6258]

lol

[@itsandyme9192]

I wonder what Nouvraught has to say.

[@kricke5739]

Sonarworks only have the 250’s version, but I got the 80’s version. Anyone know if it’s acceptable to use the correction of the 250’s version anyway? How much does it really differ?

[@OfficialAvijitDas]

These headphones are not created for gaming or music. They are created for mixing music. They boost the high end and muddy bass to help sound engineers identify issues in a mix... This doesn't feel like it's been researched well...

[@Tempuraguy]

What do you choose, i just bought dt 900 pro x, and i feel it's more bommy for the bass, and less high. And i heard some review that sennheiser hd560 is good for listing pleasure and mixing too. I confiused so bad :( , so what do you things should i change my dt 900 pro x to hd 560 or stay? thaknyou and please answer mee if you guys have the answer

[@casparharte]

You are right. The DT 990 pro 250 om are peircing even with a Valve amp and Eq. There is no way to bring them back from where they have been tuned and how they do not respond well to EQ. BE WARNED BUYERS! Unfortunaly I was stuck with them as my main daily for a long time and there is no way I can recomemed them for anything. Music NO way. Mixing no. Monitoring nope. Gaming is a maybe, only coz open back. What are these really for then? IDK because they will hurt your hearing.

[@sabermajora408]

I honestly like the PC38Xs way more than my 770s

[@MrMokey24]

They are perfect for my ears, you can costumize their sound profile however you like, however you need a headphone amp for them to sound good. I wonder how many people who say they sound bad never had them plugged into an amp. I have both the 770 and the 990 and I much prefer the 990 for music because they are more spacious and they have a more enjoyable bass response.

[@FB18Ben]

I bought them in 2020 because I finally wanted to have good headphones. I was really disappointed when they arrived and my QC35II were miles better than them. Bought 6XX half a year later and finally got the epiphany I looked for.

[@mndlessdrwer]

If you want something with similar mids but with even more bass and slightly more treble, then try to find somewhere that has the AKG K371 on demo. It's a pretty cheap set and the performance is pretty staggering at that price. I like the HD6XX and the HD650, but the bass from the K371 is just so deep and detailed that it's hard not to fall in love with them even when you have something like the HD6XX. The K371 may not be the most neutral tuning, but it does a lot of things right. If you like EDM, techno, glitch, or dubstep then you need a set of K371. They're something special and they've been hovering around $110 for a bit now. The only thing that the HD650 and HD6XX do definitively better is stage transparency, and this is largely because they're open-backed. You get more stage depth and the staging feels more natural on the HD650 and HD6XX compared to the K371. That isn't to say that the K371 lacks stage width, but it does lack some depth and it's sealed enclosures lend the staging to feel more artificial, if that makes any sense.

[@PartyMusic775]

You didn't AMP them right. Lots of Beyer fans forget that people without them are thinking of purchasing, without knowing that one little detail. You need an AMP to make them shine.

[@u7felix]

yk it’s a solid recommendation video when the next item after the cheapest one costs 400$

[@meh-hair-Vaughn]

I have the DT990 Edition, and I really don't like them. As the reviewer mentioned, the treble is sooooo harsh it's almost unbearable. I wonder how Management at Beyerdynamic let the 990 go to market. Did they not at least have a listen before deciding whether it's ready to be launched? Since I can't return them, I've EQ'd my 990 Editions to the point where they've at least become usable. I've cranked the sub-bass frequencies up and lowered the treble frequencies to their lowest setting on the EQ (Yes, that's how harsh and sibilant the treble is on these!). Honestly, I can't recommend the 990 Edition or the 990 Pro (basically the same headphones) to anyone except perhaps gamers who can EQ the headphones and really want that spatial-feeling sound provided by open-back headphones...

[@eki]

Shouldve named the title "Watch this BEFORE buying DT990 Pro for gaming!" lol

[@Leonardo-bx6rl]

But are they good for gaming or not

[@jouhajohnny]

I personally love them for listening music and music producing

[@coal-in-my-hole]

I bought the DT990 pros for zoom calls. Can confirm the sound signature and imaging is fine for zoom calls lol

[@alyx4436]

Can a get a link to your "left shoe"? I cant find it anywhere online. You should really put it in the description seeing as you recommended it. I hope its not a Drop exclusive.

[@nomad1517]

These headphones are used around the world in some of the most famous studios on earth. They aren't made for gaming. Beyerdynamic actually has gaming headphones. These headphones are for mixing and mastering. They meant for long listening sessions. For their price, you can't beat them.

[@GenophefeElisabeth]

Thank you for this! Actually watched this before pressing the button on a pair of DT990 and got me some 560s instead. Don't regret it a bit!

[@H0NSE]

there's also the R70x

[@chefsteve8381]

Best rec out of all of them 👍

[@NO_SIMP_ZONE]

Frequency response and imaging is stellar on r70x. Sadly its not at all impressive in resolution.

[@chefsteve8381]

@@NO_SIMP_ZONE Yes but i can listen to it all day unlike the DT990 or HD560S...

[@NO_SIMP_ZONE]

@@chefsteve8381 amen. Dt 990 are torture devices. Hd 560s is perfectly tuned except for the sharp lower treble

[@rohitorange]

What about dt 900 pro x ?

[@universalsinewave7559]

Yeah. I Iistened to the DT990 (250 Ohm Version), and I heard a mostly dark and dull sound in comparison to my Ultrasone Signature Studio.

[@chrizpao]

Thanks for the vid. I was aiming for dt990 but now i order 560s. Can you suggest Cheapest dacamp for it? Ill use it for gaming. Valorant

[@Skeeb23]

Brilliant! I too made the mistake back before getting into true Audiophile sound and bought the 990. I returned it the same day I bought it and got the TYGR 300. Never looked back (only forward)! Listen to DMS here folks!

[@Hi_Im_Dominik]

What do u think about 900/700 PRO X ? I dont want to use amp bec it will be used with my phone mostly

[@niconick2881]

you didnt even mention the whole point to why these headphones were made...music production. these aren't made for gaming.

[@shifty25_]

Yeah i bought then dt 990 (80 ohm and 250) and couldn’t even listen to it for more than 2 songs cuz it was so harsh to me. You know when you hear a harsh sound and it forces you to close your eyes for some reason? That’s what was happening to me even on low volumes. Eqing it didn’t work cuz I had to eq it so much i ended up compromising the treble you need for good music

[@tacenda3250]

Is the HD 560 better than the HD 600?

[@chrisstroud60]

The pads wear in and the treble is supposed to smooth out. But I could be wrong. Just wondering if that is true or not

[@ToroB347]

So pc38x or Sennheiser HD560S if I'm gaming mostly?

[@manuelaj3z116]

what do you think about the Fidelio X2HR?

[@mathisgraening1931]

Sorry, watching after

[@UselessClubFoot]

This guy serious? Absolutely clueless average guy. The DT990 pro headphones are not for gaming and simply "listening" to music. They're budget audio engineering studio monitoring headphones. And for the budget, they're amazing for the price.

[@lanceoneil]

I guess it's Dunk on the DT990 week lol

[@MarkVO]

The DT990's "flaws" are useful for identifying problematic sounds when mixing, such as boominess/boxiness or mouth sounds. They are mixing headphones, not designed for listening pleasure.

[@lennonsteeler]

exactly why i mix with them

[@Mr.Deeds.]

Exactly....makes anyone laugh after seeing this video!!!

[@Janiko_L]

Absolutely! Especially for gaming the 990s are absolutely awesome! Great Sound , stereo imaging, Detail and also the possibility to hear your surroundings , given the Open Back Design

[@pp312]

Not designed for listening pleasure? I think Beyer might be surprised to hear that.

[@MatttAt]

This also makes them great for gaming to hear footsteps.

[@johnellison3173]

Yes the 990 has elevetad treble but thats why some people like it. Doesn't mean its a bad headphone. I found the Fidelio X2 to be far more fatiguing than the 990. I couldn't stand that headphone. Most sibilant bloaty low res garbage ive ever heard.

[@mikeg2491]

Everyone says fatiguing or sibilant like it’s something to avoid. I have a 990 and yes I can’t listen for hours but sometimes you just want to listen to music for 30 minutes or hour max and put it down and the extra treble can bring out interesting dynamics in music other phones can’t. Now if you’re looking for an all-rounder and have a strict budget no it’s a bad choice. If you collect headphones like I do it should be in everyone’s collection.

[@johnellison3173]

@@mikeg2491 Well said. I have 600 ohm DT990 and about 20 other pairs of headphones so you could say im a collector too. I enjoy the extended treble of the 990 and they are also exceptional for gaming.

[@garethg8226]

Yup. I too have a pair in my collection and i can listen to it for hours on end. Different strokes for different folks as the saying goes.

[@chipsnmydip]

I always used the DT-770 Pro or DT-1770 Pro, and honestly these are tuned better to me than the LCD-5. Right now my main phones are Susvara, LCD-XC and Empyrean, but I'd never knock the classic Beyers (except the T1) for stuff like gaming, audio production, or on the go listening. Maybe 990 is different, but then honestly I'd probably go towards another Beyer than a Sennheiser, which are more thin.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

yeah kind of 'pro' preferences, its great bcs its universal iem

[@thiskidkills7806]

You failed to acknowledge in the intro that this is an open-back mixing and mastering headphone and nothing to with gaming/#listeningtomusic as you implied. So I clicked away. Just saying...

[@Janiko_L]

DT 990 notoriously bad? Did you smoke something before making this video? Yes they are obviously NOT flat, they have the signature (and well respected) Beyerdynamik Sound

[@AlexKouznetsov]

I have a dt990 Pro 250ohm as my desk pc headphones, and that's by choice. I have 400i, sundara, aria, hd650 and a couple more headphones, but I really like the sound of the 990 for gaming. Donno why.

[@ritikl4358]

iv used a lot of gaming headsets and headphones over the years including the DT 770 and 880 and honestly id have to say the DT990 pro is one of my favourite's but i can see why some people don't like them, yes out of the box the sound can be kinda harsh on the high's but they respond really well to an equalizer and iv found that by boosting the low ends a bit on the EQ they can be somewhat warm sounding and have nice open bass, and they are really comfortable to use for a long time.

[@wewlad107]

What is "open bass"?

[@malaclypse1409]

A lot of people love 990 pro's for mixing and mastering music, which you didn't even mention. Boooooo.

[@user-xl5lc3qw5z]

why would anyone want to mix with a headphone that has a ridiculously exaggerated sibilant profile... Studio headphones are supposed to be balanced, that's the entire purpose of using them as opposed to regular listening headphones which usually boost frequencies either in the bass, treble, or both as is the case with the DT990's

[@LETTMusic]

Been into music production for over a decade. I've been through Sennheiser, Audio Technica and more brands. The Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pros are the most comfortable headphones I've ever bought, have the best soundstage for producing music on, and I never get ear fatigue when listening for long sessions. I'm sorry, but starting off with 'the headphone is notoriously bad in the audio community' is pretty much false. There's almost nothing but praise for the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pros across the entire music production community, the mixing/mastering audio engineer community, and more. Also, the DT 990 Pros have as balanced, if not more of a frequency curve as any of the models you listed. The HiFiMAn's have a way harsher boost between 8-10kHz. The Sennheisers all have low and high end boosts as well. Almost every model of headphones has the smile curve boosts of the low and high end. It's misleading to point it out in the DT 990s, with zero reference to how that exists in every other model you suggested.

[@pododododoehoh3550]

Unfortunately i have hormone problems of some kind i dont fully understand as i get spots all over my back and shoulders and a little on my forehead and face along with oily skin and greasy hair whenever i stop using shampoo. I tried doing it for a full two monthes and my scalp scoriasis/dandruff almost entirely whent away but i can't find a way to deal with the grease without at least sulphate free shampoo and luke warm water

[@Kernias]

Sir, this is a headphone review

[@pododododoehoh3550]

​@@Kernias I will not be silenced.

[@nexor7809]

@@pododododoehoh3550 brother i agree im currently scrubbing my head rn and getting all that oily stuff under my nails. I also like to smell my fingers after i scrub my greasy hair. I didnt wash my hair in a month btw. I also love my dandruff too

[@undersc0r]

I have the 990 pro's and they are by far the best headphones that I have ever used. Although mine are the 80 ohm version, which some people say doesnt have as much of the treble issue as the 250's. The Philips x2 would probably be a "safer" choice for anyone on the fence.

[@brentt8940]

Is that the all black edition 80 ohm ?

[@mvricks90]

they suck for mixing. Frequency curve is way out of line and it won't translate to other systems.

[@HalfinchLonomia]

yeah I used my 990's for 4 years and loved em, but this week I noticed when I turn my head at my desk the wire is cutting out sound a bit. Now looking for new options

[@nxadventures9510]

I have the 250 and same. And I had quite a few headphones and IEMs, and expensive speakers, so far. DT990 are the best (although they do hurt top of my head).

[@DanDryden-n7i]

Having just got my DT 990's im dissapointed. Multiple IEM's and Other headsets which are objectively better at almost anything im needing from them.. all same price, or cheaper...

[@mipiaceiltubo]

"notoriously bad in the audio community"? Seriously? Are you compairing a flat Studio Headphone with some other crappy stuff just because gaming people are buying it? This is absolutely the first time I hear someone talking so bad about this headphones. This review need to be revisited 😂

[@guus007]

A DT 990pro needs an amplifier. It’s not for a phone. A DT990 has a couple of different ohm versions. The regular 250ohm version does not sound overly bright. A DT990 can be bought new for 130 euro now a days. That’s a complete no brainer. I can easily say there is no better for the money. It’s the first step into the audiophile world. In the past I had a Sennheiser hd650. In the end the DT990 stayed and the Sennheiser left. It’s unbeatable for the price. Still use it for making music.

[@Ballacha]

i was actually looking to upgrade/sidegrade my dt990 pro. the upper range isn't nearly as bad as you say it is. but i do notice a somewhat prominent boost at the frequency range where "s", "ts" and other harsh consonants are pronounced. so i went to my local audio store. i first tried akg k612. very boring headphone with almost dead on harmon tuning. meh. then i tried the hifiman he400se v2. holy shit that thing is bad. it sounds like a normal 300ohm dynamic driver headphone driven by an ipod nano. i'll try others when i can afford higher price bracket products but for now, i'll happily keep using the dt990.

[@PartyMusic775]

When you say a headphone that is known to need a certain kind of amp is bad, but then you don't mention what you used to amp it.... you're reminding everyone here to throw away your opinion as useless. Now if you let everyone know what kind of amp/power makes the 400se sound terrible, that's a useful comment.

[@wokenbrilliance9034]

This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about..

[@verselessmusic]

I kept watching this channel's reviews until i found this review bashing the headphones i use and love for my work. I guess i shouldn't listen to these "audiophile's" takes

[@greggear8317]

Can't agree with you on this one, I have DT990 Pro, HD560S, PC38X; yes DT990 Pro can be tiresome to hear, but just like on gaming monitors, a wash out black give you the ability to see enemies on dark places or a exaggerated red tint allows you to see easier hit damage cues on faster TN panels, what can give that edge on gaming is a headphone that is very edgy on these frequencies... but for hardcore competitive gaming, for casual or longer gaming sessions you will be ok with any headphone. PC38X it is more wide and has very nice imaging but is not up to par to do it as precise and sharp than DT990P Same with HD560S where its soundstage is like a egg is not well balanced at 9 and 2 o'clock is weird... DT990P its a round circle, same with PC38X but blurrier for positional sound cues. Using acoustic foam can make DT990P more comfortable to listen, I acknowledge it's sharp but advantageous for competitive gaming, personally I do casual long sessions multiplayer games and I go with PC38X, but when the lobby gets sweaty and I need wall hacks, DT990 Pro without a doubt.

[@PartyMusic775]

This is a better review than the video. Good job.

[@kevinwaller657]

for less than 200 dollars you cant beat dt 990s this dude just is weird idk. the 990s are incredible. i actualkly prefer them over my HD 650 for gaming

[@slimshadythe111]

The treble on these cans messed my hearing up. It's like tiny microscopic needles being shoved into my ear drums.

[@soulfulfool]

you can blame yourself if you let them do that :) I sold headphones which cant handle treble

[@nxadventures9510]

It is funny that despite being far from perfect, these are the best sounding out of 20+ pairs of headphones I tried. But then I grew up on Audio Technicas so I might have a skewed treble expectations. EDM, jazz, whatever, they are just great and clear with great bass. But I noticed that the ear pads make a world of difference, and worn pads are better than new ones.

[@melaniezette886]

Lots of people love Beyer infamous trebles?

[@holongwong6479]

When you see DMS and Dt 990 you will know what is coming.

[@LoftyAssertions]

"Notoriously bad in the audio community" is the most ironic part of this video, what are you doing? I think you mean in the non-professional community of gamers and music listeners who just want a low impedence hi-fi fletcher munson, and rightfully so. These are headphones made for people working in audio, not for pleasure, and they're well known to be one of the gold standards in this price range amongst engineers.

[@shanesaunderson4902]

So these headphones need an amp. I highly doubt all these gamers have got amps or audio interfaces. Bet they are plugging the jack in to controller expecting them to be banging and they are not! So they give a bad review! They are studio reference headphones, never designed for gaming. So it makes me cringe watching all these "gamers" popping these on their head!

[@MrVidification]

Self proclaimed audio experts Vs gamers in the comments section 😭🤣

[@zergbong]

AKG K702 with oratory EQ is an absolute beast for gaming.

[@chrisstroud60]

I don't listen to reviewers anymore. They trash and praise headphones with nearly the same measurements. You will be confused as I am if you keep listening to them

[@Stampede_G]

100%, I tuned out a long time ago and have been MUCH happier ever since.

[@claudioagmfilho]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Wow, what an awesome video, very informative!

[@RealJonzuk]

the 990 pro was the worst headphone i ever bought omg i thought i was going crazy

[@gabsriel]

I have a little headphone collection, and I enjoy the DT990Pro among them. None of them is perfect of course. I like the natural tone of the 990pro and don't mind the highs. I do not have ear loss, can still ears till 16khz. But I'm used to agressive music, so maybe it's a psychological thing afterall.EDIT : are you testing the bass perception of your videos when you hurt your desk ? ;-p

[@axelwolf2115]

That's how it goes in the interwebs, as soon as he said the bs about hearing loss he lost me, he had pretty good recommendations tho, but yeah I wanted to get the 990Pro's for a while but since I couldn't demo them I had to do a deep investigation and I found a lot of people saying: "hey they aren't bad but I would prefer X or Y", some even shared what they liked and didn't liked about them and why they thought they were so popular between streamers/youtubers so you could form a better idea based on what YOU like, being so hyperbolic is just dumb and one of the worst things about getting into the audiophile scene, at the end I didn't got them, but not because someone said it was for deaf people, but because real criticism with better explained facts made me understand that I would like them but they were not what I was looking for.

[@gabsriel]

Well, I can say that I got them used in perfect condition at around 60$ and don’t regret them at all even if they are clearly not the best. At the opposite, I despise the DT770Pro.

[@spaceshipearth356]

@@gabsriel Me too! 990pro so much open and natural. BTW people say that they sound harsh after pad replacement for a bit. Mine got squished after three weeks and it lowered those trebles.

[@garygriffiths7353]

Yeah I’m used to aggressive music and find these cans fine too. I used to eq down the highs when the cans were new. They are fine now though

[@ixoye56]

Why not the DT-770 Pro? I thought it was perfect for gaming, especially for its price and comfort, the new 900 Pro X is great too, I use DT-1990 Pro with analytical pads for gaming personally, and I can't think of any better gaming headphones.

[@PartyMusic775]

Why not indeed! If you're FPS gaming only, the DMS recommendations are spot on. If movies, music, and games with cinematic soundtracks make up a good portion of your listening, then DMS has a minority opinion among audiophiles I think. The Beyerdynamic 770, 880, or 990 are the #1 best choice for mixed listening assignments, in the $200 and under range. If you do a lot of competitive FPS but still mixed listening, the HD560s could be best choice. Because they'll be good at music and movies too. 👉🏼If music is your #1 and all you care about is "good enough" for movies and gaming, then I'd say that it's a no-brainer to go for HD58X or a Hifiman 400/4XX series.

[@nitromusik9275]

Saying they are bad is just nonsense.. these are not consumer headphones. These frequency boosts are meant to make certain frequencies easier to identify for engineers and producers. Trying to use studio/mixing headphones to have a beautiful experience is like taking a submarine to win a sailing regatta or a tank to win a race. Same goes for studio monitors. And im pretty sure some gamers use these headphones and monitors not because they want to hear beautiful things but because they want an edge in the game doe to the clarity and quality of the headphones making them hear and identify things more easily. But i guess that concept goes over your head

[@karnadirimu]

I completely agree with this. There are people who really likes this kind of sound. The treble response is actually quite useful for mixing/mastering. But seeing this being recommended a lot to general audience is not okay. A lot of people will have trouble with the sound. Being "notoriously bad in audio community" is a bit of exaggeration though.

[@stevess7777]

Honestly agree with you and don't get the comments defending them here. If they're meant for mixing, wouldn't that mean you end up making the bass too forwards and muting the treble because these things have such a treble spike?

[@mastroitek]

yeah, not sure what ppl are smoking. Audio aside though, so many ppl saying that comfort is top notch on them, but is it? In the short time I tried them I found them to be not so comfortable and they felt quite cheap (I know they are robust, but still felt like a really cheap build)

[@g.wavvymusic]

The DT990's are not made for gaming or listening to music but for audio production,things like mixing and mastering, of course they won't hold up in this comparison video.🤷‍♀