Favorite Watches for $5,000 / $50,000 / $500,000 | The 1916 Company Podcast

[@DeepfryX]

Just the most interesting group of watches. Thank you folks! Really great podcast!

[@the1916company]

We try to stay fresh and avoid retracing the steps of old KZbin and other podcasts. I'm thrilled that you enjoyed this cast. Best, Tim

[@chrisray6385]

Tim, quite the apt choice for $5000 and under. Ball Hydrocarbon without question.

[@amintaslneto]

Great watch talk folks. Please discuss the future of independent watch making in upcoming programs. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it. Think it's growing so fast that it might become main stream. The question then is what's next in this field of horology? Cheers, Amintas

[@Doggo-frencton]

These comments reinforced the confidence in my personal picks. People mentioning Rolex, Omega and Patek prove that marketing truly drives the watch media Zeitgeist and authentically justifying them relies on the old “status and quality” argument.

[@tusing7780]

That Laurent Ferrier is simply incredible

[@davidr2802]

The Apnea handset is pure beauty

[@the1916company]

There's an amazing amount of unique componentry in that model given how niche and low-volume it was. I imagine the bill for its development must have been huge. The Apnea strikes me as more a labor of love by Omega than an earnest attempt to sell watches on a celebrity ambassador basis. Best, Tim

[@nicogerard1]

Awesome conversation. Great perspective on different ways to think about value. Thank you.

[@TheHorologyOnTap]

Omg! That Zenith and JLC! Added to the grail list that I shall never obtain, but it made the list 😊

[@the1916company]

Never say never! Dreams do come true. Best, Tim

[@remus2001]

Watch Enthusiast London has shared his experience of being thrown into a pool while wearing one of his Lange watches, and having water ingress into the movement (even though the crown was pushed in). I applaud Patek’s statement on what its 30m water resistance means, but I don’t trust every brand to survive accidental submersion.

[@the1916company]

Were the watches new? 30m needs to be tested constantly to ensure that it's still valid. I've seen plenty of 30m watches survive swimming, and refinishers often watch the fully reassembled 30m dress watch cases under a stream of water to remove polishing compound. In general, however, I always advise people not to swim with anything that isn't at least 50m with a screw-down crown. If the OEM approves something less for swimming, then at least you could theoretically make a claim for warranty coverage if the watch is fairly new and fails given that use case. Best, Tim

[@remus2001]

@@the1916company Thank you, Tim.

[@Doggo-frencton]

Take your Patek timepiece underwater and post a video (with timestamp and user profile at the same time) otherwise stop pumping hype brands. lol nobody is taking a PP watch underwater gtfo of here

[@RobLewis3]

That Patek tourbillon Tim picked reminds me a bit of George Daniels' Spring Case tourbillon. Fantastic.

[@GI-xx1yw]

Those gold-ish Seamaster’s in the beginning look really good, need to look into those

[@the1916company]

Highly recommended. SMP Diver 300M models from this period were better built than contemporary Subs. Best, Tim

[@rjn3818]

Tudor Pelagos LHD, Rolex Day-Date masterpiece in platinum with mother of pearl dial, diamond indices and Baguette-set bezel and Lastly Patek Philippe 5207G.

[@visiondecalee-o4f]

Great show, Tim! The Jayjay LaCouture Duometre is amazing. The LF is what the Cubitus could've been and it will soon join my collection.

[@the1916company]

I agree on both counts. There's quite a few Duometre models now, but the hammered dial UTT, WG chronograph, and the enamel 40.5mm Quantieme Lunaire are my favorites. If I were to return to JLC collecting, one of these would be an anchor of my collection. Best, Tim

[@UserKR13]

LF SA is a great choice

[@Reference-ev4nu]

Agree the PP 5016 is The Grail

[@Doggo-frencton]

Your Grail.

[@biggiebeil5118]

Had an APNEA before, always fun to have, accurate good water resistance, Just with the movement to use properly as it's module, sold it but may get another one again in future.

[@ballena1234]

Could you make a prediction for each category in this years GPHG awards?

[@kevinkant6817]

I’m on the toilet watching this thank you

[@the1916company]

Check out the Panerai Carbotech: extremely high in fiber. Best, Tim

[@ThomasBroadbent-r1k]

Damn Zenith, are we seeing the future of Rolex dress watches?

[@Fred-rg5vw]

The udea of spending 10k AUD on a watch and getting a rubber band just doesnt seem right. Perhaps if there was something stunning about dial or case to "make up for it ". I understand that it may suit the look of the watche better but if im soending rhat much i want something more impreswive than a rubber band.

[@michaelnauer7875]

I dare Tim to mention Journe without telling us he isn’t a Journe fan.

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

Ain't possible.

[@RobertTaylor-ub6hv]

There must be some history there. I have to say this series teaches me more about watches than any other series. I really appreciate the addition of video. It is superb.

[@UserKR13]

I can sense Tim has something against Journe personally. My guess is Tim knows things about Journe he cannot say in public.

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

@@UserKR13 yep. That's what I think too.

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

@@RobertTaylor-ub6hv agreed

[@BenTramer]

Where was the movie commentary?

[@the1916company]

I guess Adam Driver got a reprieve for a week. Best, Tim

[@BenTramer]

@@the1916company During the Thursday sales show it was mentioned that this podcast had talk about movies and I didn't notice that commentary when I listened earlier today.

[@dr.kevinmoore8889]

I dare any YT watch influencer to praise Hublot in any way and not apologize for it in some way first. Ain't possible

[@davidr2802]

This watch, that watch KZbinr. So you are wrong. Which an't surprising for WIS.

[@BodfordBlue]

If it looks like a Rolex, feels like a Rolex and functions like a Rolex then it must be a Rolex. Firstly, thank for your content, it's insightful, well written and presented. I have recently become interested in watches though I wouldn't consider myself a collector, more someone with time on my hands and a mild enthusiast. My wife purchased a James Cameron Deepsea for me earlier this year and I enjoy the watch very much. I'm a surfer and I like the idea that if I sink to the bottom of the sea my D-Blue will tick on long after I perish. The topic of replica or clone watches and what these simulacra or copies imply is of interest to me. At a recent party I was comparing watches with a friend who travels to Hong Kong regularly and he mentioned that he was purchasing some super clones on his next visit and would I be like to get one. I said yes and he got me a black dial Submariner and a Panda Daytona each for $1000 Australian dollars. I only really buy Rolexes, not because I'm a snob but because I like them and there are just too many nice watches out there from great brands and I fear falling down the rabbit hole of collecting. (I do like the Breitling Datora however and now it's preying on my mind, dam). I'm happy with both replicas and wear them around the house though I always take my "real' Deepsea out as I don't like leaving it at home because it's so expensive and I fear for its safety when not with me. If I did wear my replicas out and someone asked me about them, which I feel is unlikely as most people don't care about these things, I would happily tell them they're clones. I think that someone who considers another poorly because they wear a "fake" watch are just as "fake". The clones look the same as the "real thing" though the finishing is not quite as good, the edges on the replica Submariner bracelet are a little sharper, but apart from that there is no discernable difference to my untrained eye. My replicas are actually keeping better time than my six-year-old second hand Deepsea which I should probably service soon though I don't wish to be parted from it for the two months it takes to service and the fact it's losing a couple of minutes a week is not that much of a concern. How do these replicas make me feel? I have positive and negative feelings about the clones. Every Rolex that is produced at the Switzerland factory is a copy of the previous one and I think that my Chinese Rolex is just a copy of a copy. Use of the word fake is not correct because it implies that the replica is not real whereas is it quite real and functions as such. After buying the replicas wearing my "real" Deepsea feels more important and less important at the same time. More important as it is a lot more expensive and the "real deal" so it carries more weight in my mind at the same time it is also less meaningful as it is just another commodity made on a factory assembly line and in no way 25 times better than the clone which makes me think I'm paying mostly for the Rolex brand which reveals that I too can be shallow and that concerns me somewhat. At the same time wearing the replica is not as "real' and has less statue, though not by much. Wearing the replica is less stressful as I'm not so concerned about damaging it which is a positive as I do fuss about my Deepsea. Rolex makes a million or so watches each year but I hazard to think that the Chinese Rolex factories make more which begs the question who is more relevant or important. If people like these replicas and pay good money for and enjoy them is that wrong? French post-modern philosopher Jean Baudrillard said the simulacrum, which is the copy, of which everything is, is never that which hides the truth, it's the truth that conceals that there is none. So, I ask, where is the truth in watches. I would very much appreciate for you to broach this subject with your creative mind and hear what your opinion on this divisive topic is in one of your videos, yours sincerely Bodford Blue

[@Doggo-frencton]

Keep smoking that Rolex pipe. There you go, little donkey.

[@C.M.Cummings]

Longines > Omega for me.

[@C.M.Cummings]

…but the Deville Prestige looks artistic. Nice. 👍🏾

[@trinajska]

ok

[@DeepfryX]

I own both and I'm a huge fan of both honestly.

[@josephknecht4272]

More hype on FP Journe's original resonance watch?! First, there is not one shred of rigorous scientific evidence that the watch works as intended. In fact, those who know the watch, if objective, will tell you that it does not work well. Also, there is no magic to the resonance phenomenon. It is a lawful physical phenomenon that has been well-studied and analyzed! It is also ridiculous to say that there is no coupling in FP Journe's watch. Just as in pendulum resonance clocks, the shared upper base "plate" by both pendulums (base metal plate by both balance wheel bridges/assemblies in the case of the watch) are the coupling medium via which the vibrational energy is shared! Unfortunately, the amount of energy produced by tiny balance wheels is miniscule compared to that of pendulums in pendulum clocks, thereby negating a robust and reliable effect. And true, the coupling in the AS does not take place via a shared plate offering weak energy transfer but more directly between the balance springs themselves. That is why, unlike the base plate system in the FP, it is far more effective. Ergo, given its inferior movement finishing when compared to the elite and its intrinsic technical limitations and unrealistic claims, the FP Journe brass resonance watch is probably the most overhyped watch of all time!

[@akk15moti63]

Disappointed with your suggestion for 5000 watches ☠️

[@TheEasyRail]

You sound like a hype man and not watch guy

[@localheroEd]

I wasn’t disappointed but I’d certainly pick differently. LUC Chopard, Hermes H08, Cartier Drive, something from Girard Perregaux would be in the mix.