Top 10 Things The Iron Claw Gets Factually Right and Wrong

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@Reaperguy67
@Reaperguy67 9 ай бұрын
@@_dr.greenthumb_ nobody asked and a pinned comment doesn't count spam bot
@Anonymous-o8j
@Anonymous-o8j 9 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: The reason why Kevin Von Erich wrestles without boots is because someone hid his boots in his locker room as a joke and with no time to continue searching for his boots, he had to wrestle without them. Since that time, Kevin continued wrestling without boots and it became his trademark.
@N30WULF
@N30WULF 8 ай бұрын
@@Anonymous-o8jnot true! He never liked how the boots felt on his feet and started wrestling without them because he felt more comfortable that way. I’m actually from Dallas and not only grew up watching them, but my family knew their family personally.
@GregHuffman1987
@GregHuffman1987 8 ай бұрын
im confused about the iron claw on flair scene. the movie differentiates kayfabe from what really goes on behind the scenes. the scene is portrayed as a "shoot". so was he not really supposed to hold the claw on flair or what?
@Anonymous-o8j
@Anonymous-o8j 8 ай бұрын
@@N30WULF I got my source from a miscellaneous channel on KZbin about that “fact” so I guess I stand corrected. Last time I trust small time KZbinrs, that’s for sure. Sorry for the misunderstanding sir.
@MalenkyGoblin
@MalenkyGoblin 9 ай бұрын
The final line from the movie, "I used to have brothers, but now I'm not even a brother" was a direct quote from Kevin.
@Dusterbugless
@Dusterbugless 9 ай бұрын
Screw that movie
@stevenseguin3523
@stevenseguin3523 9 ай бұрын
That last scene with him and his boys was heartbreaking and heartwarming all at the same time. The film was really, really well done.
@capribreezee
@capribreezee 9 ай бұрын
That line hit deep
@onewardog1169
@onewardog1169 9 ай бұрын
​@@stevenseguin3523 Was excellent
@HouseOfMontague1
@HouseOfMontague1 8 ай бұрын
That line hit hard, great film
@mdf3530
@mdf3530 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been a wrestling fan since I was a kid. I watched a lot of WCCW back in the day and was a huge fan of the Von Erichs. I noticed several discrepancies in the timeline vs. real life. I’d say the film was correct about 75% of the time which is all I ask about biopics.
@danielmoore2320
@danielmoore2320 9 ай бұрын
No it was about 45 percent accurate come on now in the movie Bill Mercer is taller than Kevin
@woozie_ztfo9285
@woozie_ztfo9285 9 ай бұрын
@@danielmoore2320that doesn’t matter man 😂
@crazykatchic
@crazykatchic 9 ай бұрын
I am torn between seeing it and skipping for the same reason. I was at Will Rogers Coliseum every week during their prime. Stood at the turnbuckle with b&w 8x10's for autographs, and had all of theirs. I was seeing an usher at the time (teens back then) and he got tickets for me and gave me insider info when he knew stuff like when Mike had his debut. I was there and got to talk to him for a minute as the wrestlers would walk around the arena before the first match time. I was devastated by each death I'll tell you. But man! Were those the days!!!
@danielmoore2320
@danielmoore2320 9 ай бұрын
@woozie_ztfo9285 well those weren't the only inaccuracies
@danielmoore2320
@danielmoore2320 9 ай бұрын
@crazykatchic I'd watch it as a support for the Von Erichs but other than that I personally didn't think it was good
@lucascornell446
@lucascornell446 9 ай бұрын
Leaving out Chris is a huge mistake. It takes away the volume of grief Kevin held.
@Dusterbugless
@Dusterbugless 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. He should’ve been the main story because he was so different.
@TheBiggRobb
@TheBiggRobb 9 ай бұрын
Trust me, if you watch the movie (which I did) the grief will transpire through and through. This movie is not a documentary but rather a dramatization of a true story.
@Dusterbugless
@Dusterbugless 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBiggRobb Chris is a huge part
@burnabee
@burnabee 9 ай бұрын
I heard they took out because it was to much for the movie
@shawnchristopher5088
@shawnchristopher5088 9 ай бұрын
You know what's crazy? I honestly think it would have been way too much for the film. Even on its own, their story is almost unbelievable. Even David's first child died shortly afterwards. At some point artistically, the moral of the story needs to balance out and connect with the audience. It was a risk but they could afford to take it. If Chris was more involved in the ring early on I would agree with you.
@explosionsandstuff7787
@explosionsandstuff7787 9 ай бұрын
I think they should have made the film longer, there's more than enough material to make a 3 hour movie, and they shouldn't have omitted Chris. Sure, he only wrestled two matches and both of them were against the future Paul Bearer, but he was part of the family.
@topdawg182
@topdawg182 9 ай бұрын
Director had mentioned something along the lines that it was too much to show the death of all 5 brothers in the movie. They mentioned jack but dont show his death and although i understand the directors point they should’ve at least mentioned chris by name. It would’ve been a very honorable thing to at least show him towards the end after kerry dies and he reunites with all his brothers in the afterlife chris should’ve been part of that scene
@itsRockyTV
@itsRockyTV 9 ай бұрын
For 3 hours just make it a documentary. Chris would have taken too much time and it would have painted Fritz it worse light than he was already in - especially for the events that took place with Chris in the ring. They dedicated the movie to all the brothers including Chris at the very end if you watched the credits. Not every movie/biography is going to be perfect. You cant include every event in their lives its just too much.
@boopkal4716
@boopkal4716 9 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@itsRockyTVI agree that putting every event of their lives is too much but omitting one of the brothers from a biopic about the brothers is a huge chunk of their story gone
@itsRockyTV
@itsRockyTV 9 ай бұрын
@@boopkal4716 it absolutely is. However when you read about what happened to him it really puts Fritz into a bad light - even more than what he is in the movie. I think that could have been a good reason enough to let it go. Also the original script had Chris in it and some early filming so we could maybe get something once its released. They dedicate it to him at the end with the rest of the brothers. It does suck they didn't add him or mention him but that family had so much going on it was probably a lot.
@MarkStiburski-u1f
@MarkStiburski-u1f 9 ай бұрын
Chris was in early versions of the screenplay but was cut due to time and the director thinking that the audience wouldn't be able to handle that many deaths In one film plus I think he was having trouble getting a studio to make the movie because of that fact.
@ScooterFarts
@ScooterFarts 7 ай бұрын
Fritz was "reportedly" a very hard, cruel bully and brute in business and especially to his own family. He supposedly belittled, manipulated, controlled, and emotionally destroyed almost every member. Years of being unable to meet his unrealistic ego driven expectations were the "curse". Just tragic all around. I remember seeing Kerry back in the mid 80's as a kid against bam Bam Bigalow. It was a relativly small venue in El Paso Texas (so we were up close). Even as a kid he was clearly struggling with his demons and the match was extremely short because of it. He didn't look well or like he wanted to be there. I don't know personally know all the inner details of how dysfunctional the family was, but if half as bad as what has been reported is true, then it explains much.
@markcharlet1229
@markcharlet1229 9 ай бұрын
It’s the best “wrestling” movie there is, hands down. Regardless of accuracy, it captures the story and the emotion of professional wrestling. It combines real and fake into a work of art.
@MatthewGreer-h3k
@MatthewGreer-h3k 9 ай бұрын
It was about 85% accurate the only stuff that was off was the condense story line at times and the bother Chris but if anything the real story was even sadder which is mind blowing.
@slaughter1706
@slaughter1706 9 ай бұрын
100% agree. Best wrestling movie made.
@MemphisRideshare
@MemphisRideshare 9 ай бұрын
Thank Chavo for that. He filmed the matches, and also did the choreography
@Gibbs316
@Gibbs316 9 ай бұрын
The wrestler has entered the chat
@Beau0000
@Beau0000 9 ай бұрын
@realisticallyspeaking565this will probably be nominated for rewards. it was an amazing movie
@Joseph-nd6bi
@Joseph-nd6bi 9 ай бұрын
WCCW was definitely a part of our lives growing up. I still remember, losing David felt like losing a family member and Kerry winning the championship was so emotionally powerful.
@big_zeus
@big_zeus 9 ай бұрын
You had to be there in the 80s when the Von Erichs made Texas Wrestling as big as WWF, AWA, and NWA.
@JeffTullock-yx1hd
@JeffTullock-yx1hd 7 ай бұрын
They came to St. Louis to wrestle for Mucknick. Big crowds. Attended Flair vs Kerry at Kiel Auditorium.
@seanmorgan2781
@seanmorgan2781 9 ай бұрын
Movie was great. The actor that played Flair was AWFUL! It's like he never even saw a video of him. Even messed up the Woo.
@jyesucevitz
@jyesucevitz 9 ай бұрын
I just watched an interview with Kevin. Zac Efron never saw or spoke with Kevin once. he's portraying the only living son in the movie and never even asked him a single question. imo that's wrong.
@Rjensen2
@Rjensen2 9 ай бұрын
All bio-pics are nonsense, so it really wasn't necessary.
@ChillBsmooth
@ChillBsmooth 9 ай бұрын
There's never going to be a movie that tells the complete story of any real life situation. That's why it's a movie.
@theshamegame2787
@theshamegame2787 8 ай бұрын
Mike was actually wrestling *before* David died, even teamed up several times. In fact, Mike was (arguably) a runner-up best in the brotherhood, in his par-on skills. He mangled both Ric Flair *and* Jake Roberts in lesser known matches, he was still even considered a rookie wrestler, who never even wanted to be one and had the least preparation and training, and still faired out way better, even more than Kevin, who while is an amazing, talented athlete, Mike sprouted into an extremely powerful gladiator in such a short time, and if he never got sick in the first place, he'd probably both still be here and have had a lengthy time in the WWF, maybe even fighting alongside Kerry in a duet stable.
@SatanSquad
@SatanSquad 8 ай бұрын
Have you watched the story Vice did on the Von Erichs? Kevin himself along with others said Mike wasn't really a good wrestler and like you mentioned in the match with Flair he was terrible and was carried in that match as well as the Gino Hernandez match. He just didn't have what it took and never would have regardless of what happened to him and to say that he was better than Kevin is out right delusional!
@melhugh3134
@melhugh3134 9 ай бұрын
I actually went to school with the Von Erichs in Lake Dallas, Tx., they were like small town royalty. Hell, my school annual that a full page picture of Fritz with his championship belt on the back page!
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 9 ай бұрын
The only thing I raised an eyebrow at was winning the title and then getting in a motorcyle accident on what seemed like that very night! Really?? That part, and the last death seemed ratcheted up not for pacing, but for drama. Otherwise I loved the movie. Is it the best wrestling movie ever? I'd still say Darren Arronofsky's The Wrestler, but, like Fritz, my rankings can always change ;)
@victoriamccord1557
@victoriamccord1557 9 ай бұрын
I agree. I was confused and thought after Kerry won the title he went out for a ride after too many beers and then lost his foot even though I know that’s not what really happened. Kerry’s foot was saved and had reconstructive surgery and he tried to walk on it too soon and his foot couldn’t bear all of his weight, causing the doctors to have no other choice, but to amputate.
@westyraviz
@westyraviz 9 ай бұрын
Kerry was a reincarnation of Jack Jr. Which is why he was the most loved. It makes sense, as Kerry was born about 11 months after Jack Jr died. Amazing!
@ThousanWhite
@ThousanWhite 9 ай бұрын
Holt McCallany was BORN to play Fritz
@raghavchohda7290
@raghavchohda7290 3 ай бұрын
He is also great in The Mindhunter
@orangecrate5895
@orangecrate5895 9 ай бұрын
I am familiar with the Von Erich family's involvement with wrestling, but not so much to depict any inaccuracies. With that being said, in my opinion, it made the movie enjoyable. I liked seeing legends like Flair, Brody, The Fabulous Freebirds, and Harley Race included in the film.
@42lookc
@42lookc 9 ай бұрын
They were good boys. Messed up with pressure but they were genuinely good boys. You could always feel it.
@dixienormous227
@dixienormous227 7 ай бұрын
i think the way kerry went out is even more sad because he tried to reach out but his dad was just busy and thought nothing of it at the time. that would have hit pretty hard.
@jfkcomspiracyfact
@jfkcomspiracyfact 9 ай бұрын
Spent many nights at the Sportatorium on Fridays and Will Roges in Ft. Worth on Monday nights. As a kid I watched Saturday Night Wrestling in the 60's before the brothers started wrestling. That was when Dan Coates & Red Bastein were the play-by-play announcers long before Mark Lowrance and Bill Mercer (the announcer portrayed in the movie) started. The TV show was still in black & white back then. Most memorable on-going feud was Fritz vs Blackjack Mulligan. I lived through everything portrayed in the movie in my teens to early 30's. My dad and I were at that sweltering hot day at Texas Stadium when Kerry beat Flair for the world title. I don't know how the wrestlers kept from passing out from dehydration that day. That scene brought back a lot of memories for me. I was in a youth organization working our fund raiser at the Cotton Bowl one time at an SMU game. I was standing outside the concession stand on break in the ramp going up to the seats when Fritz walked by. I said, "Hi Fritz" and he stopped to look at me, smiled really big, stuck his hand out to shake mine and said, "How you doin' pardner". I could barely grab his whole hand to shake it. After that all my DeMolay brothers were in awe that he spoke to me and I actually got to shake his hand. That was before David passed so every time one of the brothers died it felt a little bit personal to me just because Fritz talked to me and I shook his hand. That was the kind of charisma Fritz had. Anyway, despite the inaccuracies in the movie, I really enjoyed it. It brought back MANY great memories for me.
@josephmiller9424
@josephmiller9424 9 ай бұрын
The main actor shouldve played Kerry instead of Kevin , Kerry was about 270 around 6/2 the actor who got in good shape to play Kerry was smaller the Kevin which is not true
@sapphire163
@sapphire163 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was bad casting for the part of Kerry. Since the story centered on Kevin, maybe they didn't want an actor that was physically bigger than Zac Efron.
@Bill-en7kw
@Bill-en7kw 6 ай бұрын
Kevin was taller than Kerry. zac Efron is taller then Jeremy White
@MrBiscuit75
@MrBiscuit75 9 ай бұрын
Definitely a decent movie but as someone whos well semi versed on the von erich story a few very important moments should have been added imo. The fact that chris was omitted was the most glaring and how kevin found him. Fritz not finding his favorite son kerry and kevin attacking fritz to my knowledge never happened. Kevins parents split up as well with fritz getting brain cancer and pulling a gun on kevin should have been included. Lastly kevin almost found himself in a bad way stealing a gun but was later helped and embraced by strangers when knew who he was thus helping save kevin would have been maybe the most beautiful part of a story that ends so sadly. Hope to see it redone more accurately and with a little better casting. Only casting problem for me was the actors that played kevin and kerry should have been switched but still a solid movie.
@Randy-ry9ss
@Randy-ry9ss 9 ай бұрын
Fritz pulled a gun on Kevin.
@lls3676
@lls3676 9 ай бұрын
There's a show called Dark Side of the Ring about the Von Erichs, it's a good episode.
@joshmcmaine1434
@joshmcmaine1434 9 ай бұрын
Another right and wrong was the selling of the organization to Jerry Jarrett was right. However Kevin didn't want to sell but Kerry and Fritz did. Also Kerry went to WWF after the company was sold.
@bkillerbw58
@bkillerbw58 9 ай бұрын
I loved it. I really appreciated how wrestling was portrayed. It wasn't shown as "fake". The matches seemed like real fights. I really think the way they told the story was great!! One more thing they got wrong was Pam and Kevin got married in 1980...in the movie it happens 1 week before David goes to Japan in 1984.
@jonathanhammond5563
@jonathanhammond5563 8 ай бұрын
I think Kevin sums up wrestling nicely on his first date with Pam without spilling the beans
@SMDoktorPepper
@SMDoktorPepper 9 ай бұрын
No matter what, its still a tragic and depressing story.
@chelseacanales8763
@chelseacanales8763 9 ай бұрын
I feel bad for Kevin for losing his brothers. Also, his father was somewhat, KEYWORD SOMEWHAT a bully for making all his sons wrestlers 🤼‍♀️
@sandmantn77
@sandmantn77 9 ай бұрын
Fritz was a piece of crap
@jimh.412
@jimh.412 9 ай бұрын
​@realisticallyspeaking565😂😂
@jimh.412
@jimh.412 9 ай бұрын
​@realisticallyspeaking565 lol Fritz forced them all into wrestling. Everybody knows Mike never wanted to be a wrestler. Fritz was a piece of sh*t.😂
@smokingwitspitztherollings8678
@smokingwitspitztherollings8678 7 ай бұрын
It was disrespectful as hell to leave out, Chris
@charlesderosas5577
@charlesderosas5577 9 ай бұрын
If it was a mini series like on hbo would've been perfect
@claytontarentino3084
@claytontarentino3084 7 ай бұрын
I concur
@reddx6494
@reddx6494 7 ай бұрын
I dont usually get emotional on the movies but this one leaves me with face full of tears. Beautiful movie and Zac Efron performance for me was the best acting performance last year. He played Kevin so great! I hope him and Holt will get a Oscar nomination next year
@loslakers530
@loslakers530 9 ай бұрын
They casted Fritz perfectly with the actor. He had the size and voice
@Housewarmin
@Housewarmin 7 ай бұрын
I think it's a very odd choice to exclude Chris Von Erich from the entire movie. Even if they rewrote his character to be off screen, why not even mention him? They didn't even include him in the family photo at the end of the movie. I understand the family approved the movie, but still odd to me.
@remmy1219
@remmy1219 8 ай бұрын
Other than the casting of the Ric Flair actor, my biggest criticism of the movie was how they streamlined Kerry‘s story. Glad they picked up on it here. There’s only so much you can do with two hours of film time. It was a very good film.
@islandboy7432
@islandboy7432 3 ай бұрын
The ric flair actor choice was a total disaster
@VolumedMusicMan
@VolumedMusicMan 7 ай бұрын
Mike actually won the American Heavyweight championship, and wrestled world champion Ric Flair to a 10 minute draw. He wasn’t that bad!
@charlesmcdermott4101
@charlesmcdermott4101 9 ай бұрын
I liked the movie! I didn't think it was right erasing Chris from the story ! But I understand the Directors decision that it was one more tragedy that the film didn't need and in order to tell the story right the movie would of had to have a run time of 3 to 4 hours. It was a Good movie and I plan on buying it when it comes out on DVD!
@michaelsolis6115
@michaelsolis6115 9 ай бұрын
I grew up watching The Von Erichs back in the day, I saw the Iron Claw they mixed up the events that happened to the Von Erichs in the movie.
@ninettaflores7515
@ninettaflores7515 9 ай бұрын
Kerry was the main screwup to me . The guy that played him was too short and not buffed enough Kerry was built like a Greek Adonis with huge muscles. But I knew they would not be able to cast him right. They left out Chris who also wrestled and killed himself at age 21. I myself having been into wrestling since the days of Pepper Gomez, Ray Stevens and Pat Patterson watched the von Erichs and followed them through the eighties until Kerry’s death feel the film fell short
@JeffTullock-yx1hd
@JeffTullock-yx1hd 7 ай бұрын
Kerry’s physique was incredible. Kevin was big too.
@scottyoung7414
@scottyoung7414 4 ай бұрын
I think it should’ve been a mini series. It shoves about 10 years of material in what feels like 2 years
@deadbodychic75
@deadbodychic75 9 ай бұрын
These guys were my moms favorite when I was a kid. We watched the 80s feuds of the VonErichs & the Fabulous Freebirds in their prime. Their family story has always saddened me. I'll have to give this movie a watch.
@Doctor-Stoppage
@Doctor-Stoppage 7 ай бұрын
Leaving one brother out of the movie, completely is really messed up.
@dalearmstrong958
@dalearmstrong958 4 ай бұрын
There was a lot of discrepancies, but the one I can't get over is how they made Kevin way bigger then Kerry in this movie and anyone who has ever seen either knows Kerry was the biggest and better built .
@MrXavierwalls
@MrXavierwalls 9 ай бұрын
Fun movie, felt like a kid again watching it. The guy who played "kerry" was too small, should've switched with the other actor who was huge. Also omitting a brother altogether was kind of weird, they also mentioned the only living brother wasn't even consulted which doesn't make any sense when making a biopic, but it was entertaining nonetheless.
@watchingyoutube_
@watchingyoutube_ 9 ай бұрын
That's most certainly not true about Kevin not being involved in the making of the film.
@judsonklein3931
@judsonklein3931 7 ай бұрын
Best movie I've seen in a long time. Assumed powerful drama was obsolete, totally enjoyed it.
@Barbariandisks
@Barbariandisks 9 ай бұрын
Kevin's sons are now wrestling under the Von Erich name, while Kerry's daughter retired
@joeylasater9138
@joeylasater9138 4 ай бұрын
Yeah but the ending ripped my heart out. I lost my brother the only brother I had. When he was crying in yard and his kids ask him “what’s wrong daddy” he said I used to be a brother once. Me too man. If u have lost a sibling much less four or 5 it never goes away. I should’ve died a hundred more times than my brother. Never understood it. I destroyed myself and kept waking up. On may 27,2024 he will be gone 9 years. RIP Matt. You were the best of us. Just couldn’t shake it.
@Vazerin
@Vazerin 9 ай бұрын
5 out of 6 brothers die, atleast 1 son lived and continued the family
@Sketchfan
@Sketchfan 9 ай бұрын
Kevin once lamented he used to tell folks he was one of five brothers. Now he wasn’t even a brother
@handsom3jam955
@handsom3jam955 9 ай бұрын
I strongly felt like when they did research for this film they only spoke to people who knew the family professionally not personally. If you know the family you know the narrative is so far off from the reality and Kevin is not the type to correct it. It just doesn't matter to him what others think. If you ever met Fritz you'd know he wasn't a good man, he was a great one. His legacy since his death has been written by others in that cutthroat business, others who didn't like his cutthroat business tactics. This man loved his boys. No father is perfect but the way his tough love has been stretched to psychological abuse that led to four sons' demise is wrong and unfair. That's an unwarranted guilt that would kill any loving father just as quick as it killed Fritz. That narrative only exists because the man isn't here to defend himself and the world believes it as fact. Thats the world we live in.
@pauljohn.zac23
@pauljohn.zac23 9 ай бұрын
it was Kevin story and not yours dahling
@handsom3jam955
@handsom3jam955 9 ай бұрын
@@pauljohn.zac23 did you watch the video? Kevin said he wanted nothing to do with the creative process dahling
@PebbleRockBolder
@PebbleRockBolder 9 ай бұрын
The movie was so great, but I just wish they would’ve shown more of the wrestling and the moments that came along with it, but I get they wanted to show us what we didn’t see on tv, but I still wish they would’ve stuck the original storyline on some parts, but otherwise it was a great movie
@someothername7886
@someothername7886 27 күн бұрын
It was a mistake, and a bit disrespectful to be completely honest, to not include Chris in the movie
@NickBreshears
@NickBreshears 3 ай бұрын
Kevin and Kerry were miscast. Kerry had probably 40 lbs on Kevin. Kevin wasn't nearly that jacked as depicted in the movie.
@moneyerakashcorrupt
@moneyerakashcorrupt 4 ай бұрын
This movie got me. Glad to find out about this family and the actual story through research.
@SirsasthNigam.
@SirsasthNigam. 9 ай бұрын
60% right 40% wrong this film is 60% right
@philipslattery2883
@philipslattery2883 2 ай бұрын
Great movie but I can't keep thinking Efron should have played Kerry.
@SeanIdland
@SeanIdland 9 ай бұрын
I just got home from watching it. Yeah there were inaccuracies but it was as well told tale
@kyussandtheboys1790
@kyussandtheboys1790 9 ай бұрын
Can’t get over them cutting Chris out of the movie. Plus Kerry Von Erich was mis casted by lip Gallagher as well. Kerry was massive! Just looks laughable having that actor in the ring.
@budnino8752
@budnino8752 8 ай бұрын
One thing I don’t like about Hollywood Biography films is stuff like leaving a whole Brother out the film.
@candiceperry9803
@candiceperry9803 9 ай бұрын
The videos are awesome❤
@Vestersted
@Vestersted 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't they find a more suitable actor to portray Kerry von Erich? He looked like a dwarf compared to the real Texas Tornado.
@nickmattio3397
@nickmattio3397 8 ай бұрын
Fritz’s voice sounds like Sam Elliot/Powers Boothe…
@TheEnzyme94
@TheEnzyme94 25 күн бұрын
Jim Cornette makes an appearance on Watchmojo! Nice!
@JoshuaTraffanstedt
@JoshuaTraffanstedt 5 ай бұрын
Not a curse, suicide and death in general has a way of coming over and over again once it touches a family. I had a cousin that was a year younger than me who shot himself in the head at 22 back in 2010. About 2 years later his mom died of a drug overdose. About 6 years before my cousin committed suicide, his older half brother was murdered. Theres plenty of families that face stuff like this, theyre just not in the spotlight.
@shackdaddy7106
@shackdaddy7106 9 ай бұрын
Mike and Chris Von Erich had no business being wrestling ring. They were both too small and neither one of them had the talent.
@dclong-
@dclong- 9 ай бұрын
I still can't get over the casting. I would have understood Efron as Kerry, not Kev. Im not even going to say anything about the kid that played Kerry...
@JeffBird86
@JeffBird86 9 ай бұрын
Zac efron and the father deserve Oscar nominee
@anthonytropiano6650
@anthonytropiano6650 9 ай бұрын
They have the wrong sheik the original sheik never wrestled in wccw.ed farhat was in Japan or Canada or trying to rekindle the Detroit territory that he ran for years at the cobo
@BruceLee-t9n
@BruceLee-t9n 5 ай бұрын
Sheez. If this family ain't cursed. No family is
@jaxonjaxoff3291
@jaxonjaxoff3291 9 ай бұрын
Everyone dies except Kevin
@rin-eri
@rin-eri 7 ай бұрын
They forgot the part where Fritz held Kevin at gunpoint telling him he was a coward and he would kill himself too if he had any guts. Kevin knew it was just the cancer talking, that it wasn't really his dad talking. But he says "Damn it I'm not gonna let cancer decide if I live or die" and he took action. I really thought that was gonna be the climax of the movie. I wonder if they left it out out of respect for Fritz. But I think it is so important to the story. It really shows how much Kevin wants to live. He survived his brothers deaths, and he stood up to a threat from his father.
@UNTDSTSSPRTS
@UNTDSTSSPRTS 9 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert all but one of em die
@Kobe24brady12
@Kobe24brady12 9 ай бұрын
That’s not cool. Even though I’m a wrestling fan who knew that not everyone does.
@libertygundam80
@libertygundam80 9 ай бұрын
My guy why???
@UNTDSTSSPRTS
@UNTDSTSSPRTS 9 ай бұрын
@@libertygundam80 combined of OD,gun turned on self and possible murder
@TheBandit025Nova
@TheBandit025Nova 9 ай бұрын
And that one isn’t in Texas anymore
@UNTDSTSSPRTS
@UNTDSTSSPRTS 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBandit025Nova nope he's in Hawaii
@RetroHabit82
@RetroHabit82 9 ай бұрын
Loved Fritz Von Erichs German Reich character. Always guaranteed to get heat
@Dusterbugless
@Dusterbugless 9 ай бұрын
Forget this movie. How dare they leave out Chris
@jameslawson2663
@jameslawson2663 6 ай бұрын
This movie just crushed my heart. Knowing that it was based off a true story. So heartbreaking to see such a wonderful family crippled by so much tragedy.
@godsgraceissufficient2324
@godsgraceissufficient2324 9 ай бұрын
Good movie but I really wish they had included Chris!
@igorschmidlapp6987
@igorschmidlapp6987 2 ай бұрын
They also show the skyline of Dallas with the Bank of America building with its green lighting dated well before it was built.
@lylejohnson7841
@lylejohnson7841 4 ай бұрын
I think it’s sad they left Chris out. They even mentioned Jack in the end.
@sportydude9337
@sportydude9337 4 ай бұрын
At the end Chris was always left out. Even here. Sad.
@truthbetold6496
@truthbetold6496 9 ай бұрын
So sad all that happen to this family, i really like the texas tornado man this guy got me in the gym on days i did not want to go. I can't wait to see this movie.
@sandyunderpants4376
@sandyunderpants4376 9 ай бұрын
Get ready to get depressed.
@UR_Right24
@UR_Right24 3 ай бұрын
The actor that looks the most like Kerry is Zach Efron. He should have playerd Kerry and that other actor from Shameless should have played Kevin, although it's hilarious that either were cast since the real Von Erichs were so much bigger than those 2 actors. Don't get me wrong, Zach and the other guy were ripped in that movie, especially Efron, but they're still way shorter than any of the Von Erichs and weighed much less.
@benadam7753
@benadam7753 8 ай бұрын
Mike Von Erich was interested in music, but he wanted to work behind the scene's in camera and production in WCCW! Fritz forced Mike into the ring after David's death!
@TobysArmy
@TobysArmy 4 ай бұрын
I was so looking forward to this movie, but was SO let down by how much they left out, and how short the death scenes were and loss of the power of emotion that could have come with them. They skipped by so many years between scenes, it was ridiculous.... I really wanted to love the movie... but as someone that has been following the Von Erichs since I was a little kid (I'm 49 now) - I was just really let down.
@Uncle_Troy
@Uncle_Troy 6 ай бұрын
The timeline of the movie gets very confusing after Kerry's championship match. He and Kevin are even talking on phones that were commonly used in the 90's during Kerry's final scene which is obviously meant to take place in 1992. 5 minutes later, forget everything that you just saw 'cause it's 1986 and Ric Flair is wrestling against Kevin! It's also misdirecting when it's implied that the accident took Kerry's leg as a direct result when in reality, Kerry could have kept it had he not been stubborn and tried to walk prematurely following the accident.
@rpoutlaw86
@rpoutlaw86 4 ай бұрын
The guy that played Kerry nowhere near big enough
@example2844
@example2844 7 ай бұрын
I freaking loved this movie. After watching it, I have a new found respect for wrestling I didn't know was there. Watching that movie made me so proud to be a professional wrestling fan, despite what people say about it being fake and stupid. It's enjoyable and means a lot to fans
@leeandramurphy5903
@leeandramurphy5903 29 күн бұрын
Kevin is the only one left.
@nutmegct81
@nutmegct81 9 ай бұрын
It was a great film. They should have included Chris though. I thought about that the entire movie.
@crazyfastwinger5144
@crazyfastwinger5144 4 ай бұрын
Imagine your parents "ranking" their kids to their face. The damage that must do to a kids head. It makes the suicides much more understandable. What a horrible father.
@tm5aw357
@tm5aw357 9 ай бұрын
They have a 5’6” dude playing a 6’2” dude. So lame when they do that based on true stories.
@Maveric
@Maveric 4 ай бұрын
Just watched it last night. GREAT movie!
@ErikZarins
@ErikZarins 8 ай бұрын
I just saw the movie last night and it was truly emotional 💔💔💔
@WatchMojo
@WatchMojo 8 ай бұрын
What specific moments hit you the hardest?"
@ErikZarins
@ErikZarins 8 ай бұрын
@@WatchMojo the Von Erich brothers that died reuniting in the afterlife 💔 And Kevin's sons saying "it's okay dad we'll be your brothers" 😭
@ElephantCages
@ElephantCages 7 ай бұрын
I wish I had a close relationship with my brother like that, unfortunately, tragedy don't always bring family closer.
@darrylskylar8757
@darrylskylar8757 9 ай бұрын
Rest In Heavenly Peace🙏🤍🕊🙏♥️
@Brolly14
@Brolly14 4 ай бұрын
I thought the movie was great, Efron showed great depth to his acting that has gotten better and better over time. I felt that regardless of running time, they should have include Chris in the story telling.
@thomasrevere7916
@thomasrevere7916 3 ай бұрын
I thought that The Iron Claw was great, but I like The Wrestler more. It doesn't even have anything to do with Marissa Tomme's beoobs either, which would be my ace in the hole. It's just a really good movie.
@janb92
@janb92 4 ай бұрын
I’m not a wrestling fan at all and this movie moved me so much. The “curse” is really just toxic masculinity and it’s wild to see. Fritz is a garbage human who ruined his son’s and wife’s lives.
@EraclesK
@EraclesK 9 ай бұрын
One of the sadest stories ever
@JohnSmithyy365
@JohnSmithyy365 8 ай бұрын
The way Fritz talks about Jacks death at 2:55 is disturbing. Swinging joyfully while talking about it. Doesn’t seem upset. Yikes.
@big6316
@big6316 9 ай бұрын
I'm well aware that this was supposed to be entertainment, not a documentary. However it would have been so very much more entertaining if they had interviewed someone that knew the family, some local and some far flung Texas residents before they made this movie. It's obvious that is was researched extremely poorly based upon all the compelling truth that was left out, not the least of which was brother Chris and his suicide. While Kevin was definitely the more cerebral and contemplative, Kerry was a giant both in the ring and outside of it. Only a fraction of Kerry's escapades and a glimpse of his super-hero proportions would have injected this film with a level of excitement that would have taken it from a depressing lamentation on Kevin's life to a well balanced academy award candidate. Kerry was the largest of the brothers in many ways, not the average sized, uninteresting side character portrayed. The missed opportunity on this point and on how this family was idolized and loved by so many people in the area, especially teenage boys, is an elephant in the room for audience members who grew up in north central Texas in the 80s. Texas was a place where you could live like a wild animal while being close enough to civilization to use it to recover. Only to go back out stronger, wilder and more capable than before. We all wanted to be as strong and wild as the Von Erich brothers seemed to be. Many of us died trying while the rest of us never reached the bigger-than-life ideal we made of them, true or not. That insight stands out vividly as an epic, missed opportunity that this movie made absolutely no effort to capture. The love, admiration, legendary inspiration and sympathy that this family evoked in Texans eclipses and is more interesting than this movie could ever be and it was bigger than anything the the Von Erich's did professionally.
@Tonykhansucks
@Tonykhansucks 9 ай бұрын
This should have been a mini series...but still a good movie
@babarazamsucks
@babarazamsucks 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes. Came across here randomly as a wrestling fan myself. Uploaded from hours ago I see.
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