Neil Gaiman Situation Explained

[@mandy3404]

It's worth pointing out that the assault on the nanny happened on an island, so she would have been stuck there until the ferry started running again in the morning. So vulnerable

[@ayoelang]

"It's the implication."

[@METALUNICORNLTD]

Terry Pratchett would be horrified.

[@davidhopkinson6647]

Let's hope that Pratchett doesn't have a bunch of skeletons we haven't heard about yet.

[@razerow3391]

If true... Remember its innocent until proven guilty. I know its a crazy idea.

[@davidhopkinson6647]

@@razerow3391 In a court of law - but this is the court of public opinion which has no such restriction

[@ozmaweaver3782]

Rumour is Terry regretted working with him.

[@starrywizdom]

@@ozmaweaver3782 Now that breaks my heart.

[@tommonk7651]

Don't make celebrities your idols....

[@starrywizdom]

Don't put humans on pedestals.

[@timothyivey5497]

People have artistic and creative idols who also happen to be celebrities. WTF is wrong with that? Personally, no one is my idol simply because they're famous.

[@timothyivey5497]

​@@starrywizdomIt always depends on the human. There's nothing wrong with putting someone on a pedestal if they're worthy.

[@PeterKoperdan]

@@timothyivey5497 Never idolize anyone, because you almost certainly don't have enough information about them. Plenty of evidence to support this wisdom. But you can certainly choose idolatry over wisdom 👍

[@folksurvival]

Especially when they are of the Gaiman, Weinstein, Epstein etc kind.

[@SirAsdf]

Every time this happens has me feeling like Obi Wan watching Anakin get melted alive

A somewhat nice callback... 😐

[@davidhopkinson6647]

I feel this about Elon Musk.

[@KimberlyFertitta]

Love the analogy that's exactly how it feels.

[@tysondennis1016]

Nice juicy Mustafar steak.

[@jackvieiraoficial]

yeah 😞

[@rjohnsongolding1]

The article recounted the most sickening acts I have heard. The key to me was when the victim said “ This was someone who hated me more than I hated myself.”

[@VeganBambi]

i think she said the same amount of hatred. not more.

[@QED777]

@@VeganBambi Is that possible ?

[@paperkay]

LOL. The most sickening you've ever heard? Is this your first day on earth, honey?

[@azraphon]

@@paperkaynot everyone’s a jaded internet twat babe

[@christianealshut1123]

I think with him it is a lot aboput power rather than the s** - the feeling that the other is in a position in relation to him where she cannot refuse. If the woman in question for instance works for him as a nanny or caregiver, she is subordinated or dependent upon him and "consent" is a relative thing. I can just hope that if this bit involving his son is true, that Palmer will get full custody and Gaiman only supervised visits. What he exposed that poor boy to - just another damaged individual in the making who might do the same things to other women.

[@Lilleth77]

One of the biggest things about BDSM is CONSENT. He's just an abuser

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Consent is required to do bdsm safely in the same way that moderation is required to do drugs safely. Neither is safe inherently

[@Nomadik]

​@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 I'm not sure you know much about BDSM. If you think it's inherently unsafe, no matter what, you're not doing it right. "Consent is required to do BDSM safely in the same way that kitchen safety is required to cook safely." Equally true, no?

[@griseldadominguez8734]

Palmer should be charged as well, she knew and was a participant by providing him with victims, everyone is only saying he is the monster, but she also took part, they're both horrible people

[@orsygodri1155]

She definitely could have tried to find a male nanny if she knew how he is with women employees.

[@joebloggs3298]

A bit like Lesbian Headlamp, Harvey Wiensteins assistant.

[@BGlasnost]

It seems every Epstein has a Maxwell, unfortunately.

[@mariahello5472]

In the article, the first time he abuses the nanny he says he wishes that Palmer were there "like in the good old days" so they could... do the thing together. It says both have a fame of going after young fans. And they are not regular people but older, wealthier, famous people... so yeah, she's sus too.

[@12thDecember]

Disappointed but not shocked to hear about Gaiman's abusive behavior, because nothing shocks me when it comes to powerful, charismatic people. But the presence of his son in the same room when those abusive sexual encounters took place is perversion at a whole new level.

[@gemmeldrakes2758]

I am almost never surprised by this sort of thing anymore. Powerful people have always exploited others.

[@gnostic268]

Predators usually need to cross more and more boundaries in order to keep the same level of being excited by the forbidden. He was grooming his son, basically. His father probably groomed him. Totally perverted.

[@seanp8220]

Then you might wanna look into Chuck Berry.

[@Burgalo2001]

Do u believe in that bollocks?

[@miggie2099]

never would have thought he did that why I wanted to be a comic writer because of him.

[@8mycake244]

My wife and I met Gaiman a few years ago. He was polite with me but became VERY flirty with my wife. When speaking to her, his entire demeanor went to this creepy affectation. He signed his new book for us, drawing a heart next to my wife's name. I kept telling her it was strange. Yuck.

[@RustyX2010]

I bet you got in an argument with her after that.

[@Jsarmy87124]

Not necessarily you were there it's fanservice

[@8mycake244]

@@Jsarmy87124 Looks like it's not just me. (wink)

[@Nomadik]

Gaiman & Palmer always had an open relationship & were always flirty with people; I never saw anything odd about (as a poly person myself) until recently. I don't know if the allegations are true - I'm hoping they're not - but my heart sinks when I think about it.

[@8mycake244]

@@Nomadik Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[@theparkeys4345]

Acknowledging that the accusations are true, Gaiman is a monster. In addition, the woman who delivered woman after woman to him is also a monster.

[@ElGatoBlanco1970]

Thanks I keep wondering why no one brings up AFP.

[@ReinoldFZ]

@@ElGatoBlanco1970 because if a woman is found wrong, then the other women "coming forward" could be wrong as well, lying etcetera. Is narrative versus objective truth, so man is always a monster, a woman always an empowered victim. At most they will say that Gaiman manipulated her so she is a victim too 🤷‍♂

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

It was seemingly okay until there was a divorce and a power struggle.

[@juliasmith960]

She was his Ghislaine Maxwell.

[@gulfofmexico1569]

We dont know if they are true.

[@Rashomon00]

Goddamnit Neil...one of my literary idols. Has had profound meaning in my life. I'm so disappointed and frankly heartbroken.

[@wordscapes5690]

Many writers do and say crappy things. JK Rowling, Gaiman… you need to divorce the art from the artist. I am a Jew who loves Wagner.

[@Elle_TF]

@@wordscapes5690 What did Rowling say that is so crappy??!! That she acknowledges Trans Women are NOT Women??! That's facts, and I'm happy she doesn't play into the Woke BS!!!

[@wordscapes5690]

@ I didn’t say YOU found it crappy. I said that I did. You need to learn to cope with the fact that there exist opinions that are not your own. Less fragility.

[@firekind1980]

@@wordscapes5690 What did JK do?

[@pollyparrot9447]

@@firekind1980 Gave many millions to charity and spoke out in defence of women's rights. Horrible woman tut tut.

[@chrisser2088]

I’m a huge Gaiman fan and if this is true it just breaks my heart. 😢

[@kerry-j4m]

Just think how his victims feel.

[@jmaguire2232]

I try to maintain a sense of skepticism whenever allegations are leveled against a celebrity given the incentive a person would have to falsely accuse one, but the picture of Gaiman that’s started to emerge keeps getting clearer and clearer. I’m thinking it’s all true.

[@abrahamlupis9354]

​@@kerry-j4m presumed victims a.k.a. liars

[@abrahamlupis9354]

@@kerry-j4m happy of the people believing their lies

[@kerry-j4m]

@ Yes,I believe Gaiman did all these things,nothing new under the sun.

[@txmoney]

“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain” This quote has become prophetic as more and more of our heroes seem to have been villains all along. I recently read about the legendary actor Kirk Douglas and those allegations made me gasp in shock and disgust.

[@rugvedabagwe7720]

Wow, thanks for sharing this and reminding us of the great legend Douglas was!!!!

[@elizabethheyenga9277]

You should find the buried stuff on John Wayne who assaulted a number of men, ahem.

[@TheMercilessEye]

@@rugvedabagwe7720 Yeah...Blackbeard was a legend, too...

[@najhoant]

"Good Omens" will apparently be finished with just a 90 minute special without Gaiman involved, but as for the second season of Sandman and the Anansi Boys series, I think the production companies have sunk too much money and/or marketing into them to just bury them, so they will probably be released and then cancelled when enough time has passed.

[@theoldesttrees]

There is no better evidence that celebrity culture needs to end now. No human deserves the sort of reverence that gives them a gateway to harm others.

[@teijaflink2226]

Disturbing that he let his son see some of the abuse, wonder how it has affected him. Shouldn't that be illegal?

[@starrywizdom]

We know that allegedly one way his son was affected was that he started calling his babysitter "slave". If true, that CAN'T be good....

[@ericamacs3875]

I am sure it would be illegal, and count as sexual abuse of a child. I assume the women reported it to children's safeguarding as that's where it should have gone..

[@wsyl59]

Of course, it is already affecting the child. Children are sponges. Case in point-When my son was four, we were at a register and I was asked for my address. My son rattled it off. I had never taught it to him!

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Gaiman comes from a family of Scientology victims, though: Scientology victims don't belive in childhood: you're just a full-grown "thetan" in a child-sized body. That's why the Scientology cult breaks child labour laws and the like; they just don't respect childhood. This would appear to be another manifestation of the craziness.

[@monaross8519]

I thought he stood up for the abused. This hurts my heart. I've been idolizing this creative genius for decades, extolling his works to others. I was so excited they were turning Sandman into a show. Is he guilty or not? For so many women who didn't know each other coming forward with stories of his sadistic behaviors, this is pretty damning. What the hell, Neil?!

[@brigwood7658]

He's been a big part of my wife's and daughter's (20) life, and has contributed to a wonderful shared bond between them. The way you said 'this hurts my heart' resonates with me regarding the effects this is having on them.

[@pollyparrot9447]

He is a good writer. That is the only thing about him that you need to extoll to others. All idols have feet of clay.

[@ReinoldFZ]

All coming at the same time after years of the supposed allegations? it sounds fishy and coordinated.

[@TheKellie36]

@@ReinoldFZ OMG Why are you relentlessly defending this man? He is a hack that has never written an original idea. 9 women have come forward with similar stories and you keep trying to twist it into some kind of consent? You are self reporting with your line of logic. He doesn't know that you exist and probably wouldn't be your friend anyway.

[@WhatDoesEvilMean]

Abusing someone and calling it a “kink” doesn’t make you less of a monster.

[@ladyethyme]

Unless it’s consensual

[@ladyethyme]

Unless it’s consensual

[@gulfofmexico1569]

If its consensual it doesn't make you a monster at all.

[@ladyethyme]

@ Agreed 100000%. Ppl seem to conveniently forget that.

[@WhatDoesEvilMean]

@ Seeking out women to abuse who will allow you to abuse them, yes, makes you a monster - a sociopathic user.

[@marywelsh5548]

This saddens me - I remind myself innocent until proven guilty- then I think of acquired Narcissism 😢

[@mdccxcii6340]

Absolutely disgusting.

[@abrahamlupis9354]

yeah, accusing him to sink his legacy

[@kamilalambert1802]

You?

[@devonmunn5728]

Amanda Palmer is a nasty person. She knew what he had repeatedly dond and that he was a predator with no regard of even his own son and she let it happen

[@kamilalambert1802]

Amanda is weird 💯

[@josephchambers2000]

Some of the things people have said about her make it seem like she either encouraged it or joined in herself.

[@ianw0ng]

uk's version of ghislaine maxwell

[@shadelings]

@@ianw0ng Isn't Ghislaine British tho?

[@Nomadik]

I mean, that's conjecture so far. I'm hoping it's not true; but if it is, I'm heartbroken. She was always kind to me and my partner when we went to her shows in the Dresden Dolls days.

[@aishabakr5850]

THE BIG red flag here is the silent acceptance of the situation by Gaiman's ex wife Palmer. She never even produced a hint of defending him in any way. This means that she knows it (most likely) happened and she knows he is more than capable of everything he is accused of.

[@Nomadik]

Or she was abused and thus is afraid to come out and say anything, or it's false accusations and she's been advised to not give them fuel by her attorney, or their divorce wasn't as amicable as it seems on the surface. Could be any of those.

[@mariahello5472]

@@Nomadik In the vulture article, the first time Gaiman abuses the nanny, he says he wishes Palmer were there "like in the good old days". Between that & that it appears in events/etc they both had a fame of going after young fans... Not saying she did anything on her husband's level, but to me at best she's sus too.

[@Ken-er9cq]

One simple rule is never to have sex with someone that works for you or you have some power over.

[@sarahleonard7309]

I'm glad that they drew attention to the difference between BDSM and assault: Prior and continuous consent. If there was no explicit discussion before-hand establishing consent and setting the conditions, it is assault.

[@Nomadik]

Exactly. Some people in the comments need to get that in their heads...

[@ewenmac3127]

Never trust a guy who calls himself a "male feminist" or an annoying woman who plays the ukulele.

[@RandiBeeman]

Hey! I'm annoying, and I (sometimes) play the ukulele!

[@Altmetalpunk]

To me it's anyone who makes their brand being a feminist.

[@OneAndZer0]

This is a really broad blanket statement that unfairly targets well meaning people. Gaiman is a monster, let's not project his actions onto those who did not commit them.

[@terebertuccivoicemusic9821]

I'm an annoying woman who plays the ukulele and I am awesome

[@tylersmith4516]

Wise words.

[@gzucc]

I met Amanda Palmer and Neil Gaiman at a drinks thing for my friend's book thing and they simultaneously came on to me. Really agressively. I thought they were joking so I laughed and walked away. Oh dear.

[@mckernan603]

False.

[@razerow3391]

No you didnt. And didnt happen.

[@Eilandfreier364]

Why didn't you say something?

[@brucehunter8235]

Totally plausible.

[@CleverChimney]

They are totally that couple at the bar aggressively eyeing you, I can see it.

[@irishbatman2917]

He was one of my favorite authors of all time. I'm so disgusted & disappointed by these allegations.

[@Nomadik]

Here's hoping they're false. But... I don't know what to think, at this point.

[@starrywizdom]

It's fine to be wildly & lecherously promiscuous. It's NOT fine to lack consent from others involved, or to involve minors. The saddest thing about this, unless it turns out to be completely, & I mean COMPLETELY, false, is that judging by his writing, Mr. Gaiman knows better than to misbehave in this way. If he really had people signing NDAs & paid them large sums of money, that also shows he knew better. So what the actual F.

[@VeganBambi]

" It's fine to be wildly & lecherously promiscuous." really? you think it's "fine"? .... being wildly and lecherously promiscuous makes them also the type of person to abuse people. You can't separate those behaviors. Those women seem to have consented and even wanted the abuse if you read their messages. Doesn't mean it wasn't abuse just because women that are sick in the head agreed to it. Is it ok for a cannibal to kill and eat a person as long as the victim consented?

[@stoicsavage509]

Looks like in ALL the cases there WAS consent.. When are women gonna take accountability for their own choices and actions??

[@lancevance60]

It's not, though.

[@Hi-Phi]

It’s not okay to treat yourself or others as a “thing”.

[@PeterKoperdan]

You have WISDOM in your profile name. So you might wanna check out this little piece of wisdom on why *it definitely is NOT fine* to be wildly & lecherously promiscuous: 1. Health Risks: Increased likelihood of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) and other health complications. 2. Emotional Turmoil: Potential for emotional distress or attachment issues for yourself or others involved. 3. Reputation Damage: Negative social perceptions or judgments could harm personal and professional relationships. 4. Lack of Intimacy: Difficulty forming deep, meaningful connections with others. 5. Unplanned Consequences: Risk of unintended pregnancies or legal disputes. 6. Safety Concerns: Increased exposure to dangerous or unsafe situations. 7. Ethical Conflicts: Potential conflicts with personal or cultural values and beliefs. 8. Relationship Challenges: Struggles to build trust or maintain commitment in future relationships. 9. Mental Health Strain: Increased stress, guilt, or anxiety from frequent casual encounters. 10. Loss of Time and Energy: Frequent pursuits may detract from personal goals, hobbies, or responsibilities. 11. Exploitation Risks: Higher chance of being exploited or taken advantage of by others. 12. Loss of Self-Respect: Potential feelings of regret, shame, or loss of self-worth over time. 13. Impact on Long-Term Goals: Distraction from career, education, or personal development pursuits. 14. Compromised Judgment: Risk of poor decision-making under the influence of fleeting desires or alcohol/drugs. 15. Conflict with Spiritual or Religious Values: Potential misalignment with deeply held spiritual or moral principles. 16. Financial Costs: Expenses related to maintaining a promiscuous lifestyle, such as dates, travel, or medical care. 17. Risk of Addiction: Development of compulsive behaviors that can interfere with daily life. 18. Impact on Family Relationships: Strained relationships with family members due to lifestyle choices. 19. Social Isolation: Risk of alienation from certain social groups or communities. 20. Legal Complications: Potential entanglements in legal issues, such as accusations of harassment or non-consensual acts. 21. Jealousy and Conflict: Increased likelihood of drama, jealousy, or conflict with partners or their acquaintances. 22. Unwanted Attachments: Risk of forming entanglements with manipulative or harmful individuals. 23. Cultural Backlash: Facing criticism or ostracization based on societal norms and expectations. 24. Energy Depletion: Physical and emotional exhaustion from maintaining multiple relationships or encounters. 25. Reduced Self-Awareness: Losing touch with personal values or long-term aspirations amid short-term pursuits. 26. Privacy Concerns: Risk of personal life being exposed or publicized without consent. 27. Negative Impact on Future Relationships: Difficulty finding a partner who values commitment or trusts you fully. 28. Disconnection from Self: Potential for a loss of authenticity or meaningful self-expression. 29. Guilt from Hurting Others: Emotional toll of inadvertently causing pain or harm to others involved. 30. Increased Vulnerability: Being more exposed to people with harmful intentions, such as abusers or scammers.

[@RolandoRatas]

Claims to be a feminist bust really a grapeist. No respect, caring or love for women just very abruptly pounces on them for his own sexual gratification, so he's very predatory. Blaming his 'autism' for this is no excuse, it's not even a proper reason; if he is stating that his autism overrides his ability to know the difference between right and wrong then he is a liar. He must have been out of his mind to do this as a celebrity, not only is it wrong but in this era it was inevitable that he was going to be caught out and exposed. On the other side of the argument it is alleged that some of the women returned again and again for this abuse, which is not typical in so far as that most women just run away and some inform the authorities or media at the first instance of this.

[@tipsypeaches]

Not true, it can be incredibly difficult to leave an abusive relationship. Take Pavlovich's case: she was homeless, and despite Palmer giving her the nanny job, they weren't paying her, so she couldn't save up to get her own place and leave. They literally trapped her on an island with him.

[@abisnow1843]

I agree but why censor the word rapist. Like. Call it what it is, don’t dance around it to be more palatable.

[@RolandoRatas]

@@abisnow1843 it's because the KZbin algo and I believe certain You Tube channels censor the word and get your comments auto deleted.

[@tipsypeaches]

@abisnow1843 because KZbin bans people for using the word. It's why a lot of content creators have to say things like SA, or grape, so they don't get demonetized or banned.

[@thepurgatorian1613]

As a person who has autism, it disgusts me that he would use it as an excuse for his horrific actions.

[@chardawk]

My client said went to one of his book signings 20 years ago and said her friends had to surround her to get her away from him. She kinda joked about it but now im sitting here shocked because it probably was a way more of a serious situation.

[@razerow3391]

Not true, you are watching youtube at 3pm on a friday. You dont have clients.

[@lydiaboll2872]

@@razerow3391: Proof?

[@feanorian21maglor38]

It doesn't surprise me. A lot of arrogant people misbehave in public, even when they've already caused talk about their behaviour. Some years ago Prince Andrew grabbed at my daughter, who was waitressing at a party. When she told her manager, her manager said they knew all about him and his ways, and to let her know if he repeated it, as she'd make sure to put a stop to him. People need to stand up firmly to these predators.

[@PeterKoperdan]

@@razerow3391 How do you know which time zone they are watching from? You know what time zones are right? 😀

[@ReinoldFZ]

@@PeterKoperdan how do you know razerow3391 isn't right? you are just defending a comment on KZbin just because you are eager to see somebody, without evidence, fall. Anybody can type anything here, you know.

[@1313sp]

Missing the part about his upbringing within the Scientology cult. His parents were high ranking members and raised him inside the cult.

[@nejuw]

He’s an Ashkenazi

[@Vanessa_Simone_In_Toronto]

Stop blind hero worshipping celebrities. Just because someone is famous, just because they've made a lot of money, doesn't mean they're even a decent person... let alone someone deserving of role model status. It's the complete opposite, actually. Many of them have become rich and famous because they're NOT decent people.

[@gulfofmexico1569]

Stop believing every random accusation made against someone when there is no proof.

[@whitebeads1]

Yet another self-appointed "male feminist ally" goes down, I guess. Was never a fan, so whatever. I wonder how far he's going to get w/ his "categorical" denials. That's a lotta women. And wtf, Amanda Palmer? How creepy that in agreeing to an open marriage, she seems to have in effect ended up as a "procurer" of girls for her husband. Ghislaine Maxwell much, Palmer? I somehow doubt he was finding male nannies or fan-bois and girls for HER to screw around w. and/or force into things. Glad she's gotten away from him, and I hope the women he apparently harmed can heal...

[@alfomar]

It's quite interesting how everybody talked so highly of him for decades, but once this accusations appeared "everybody knew he was a creep", or "once they met him somewhere and he tried to assault them too", etc. That's why always wait for the final verdict.

[@12thDecember]

Yes, wait for the verdict, but bear in mind that people often don't speak up if they're accusing a well-known person but no one else is making the same allegations. It's very difficult to go up against someone famous with plenty of money and connections.

[@bursegsardaukar]

Like Jimmy Savile?

[@ReflexVE]

He's already admitted to most of it, he just claims it was consensual.

[@michele219]

I think most people default to thinking their experience was a “one off” because no one else has reported similar encounters. And we want to think well of our heroes so they get the benefit of the doubt. Once we hear of others having similar experiences the context changes.

[@ReflexVE]

@@michele219 This is very true.

[@b.e.withart9700]

Okay. I am done with him. I am sick to my stomach.

[@abrahamlupis9354]

he's not proven guilty yet

[@jarrodedson5441]

​@@abrahamlupis9354 I'd say he is

[@marsoblivi0n945]

@@jarrodedson5441😂🙄 you people

[@elbee909]

@@abrahamlupis9354 Going to defend him anywhere else? Great look for you.

[@gulfofmexico1569]

@@elbee909 Id defend him. He hasnt been proven guilty of anything. People are innocent until proven guilty.

[@bgill7475]

"Believe all women...except the ones that said I did bad things." --Neil Gaiman, paraphrased

[@letzsnuggzz]

The podcast is worth listening too. They really did a deep dive. And the New Zealand police's failures again show a broken system.

[@WolfriksWorld]

Rather than denying fans the stories they love, disgraced authors should be given the option of donating ALL their fees from forthcoming shows to victims' charities. It wouldn't exonerate them, but at least some good could be derived from a terrible situation, rather than just letting them slink away from public view with millions in the bank.

[@patpowers9210]

That many accusations with so many similar points are damning, I'm afraid.

[@siyabongabhebhe7403]

And that's why I don't look up to clelebrities or authors who's books I like. Less chances of heartbreak

[@hakonsoreide]

I think Neil Gaiman is under the common misconception, or perhaps he was convincing his victims of it, that an NDA actually prevents someone from reporting a crime. It doesn't. Exactly the same as doctor-patient confidentiality or similar implied confidentiality. The confidentiality of the confessional is more restrictive, but is still not absolute. Additionally, in relationships with hugely unequal power dynamics or coercive control, anything initiated by the one in control is by legal definition non-consensual, unless you can prove there was no coercive control or no power inequality. As for his son being present, that makes him, at absolute minimum even if you believe his version of events completely, a child abuser.

[@raraavis7782]

Yeah, that. An NDA can't stop you from reporting assault or any other kind of crime. Contracts do not supersede the law.

[@INDIANBLANKET]

I seriously hope Stephen King doesn’t turn out to be the same way.

[@danielphillips97]

Stephen King, while some may deplore his twitter feed, seems to be more of a traditional family man, with a wife and three kids who've all grown to be well-adjusted adults from what I can make out.

[@FrostekFerenczy]

He did have the messed up cocaine decade.

[@jeffpowanda8821]

Stephen King doesn't remember writing Cujo, published in 1981, due to his alcohol and cocaine addiction. So it's likely he doesn't remember much of anything he did during that period. Fortunately, King's family intervened and he's remained sober.

[@shaka994]

GAH! Quiet, you!

[@elisacota-francis6414]

I hope INDIANBLANKET doesn't turn out to be the same way... or with little boys...

[@EvaFull]

Absolutely nothing about all the plagiarism he’s been accused of too. Maybe you should do a follow up video covering that part of the controversy.

[@Benji568]

What plagerism has he been accused of?

[@SirAsdf]

While plagerism is no joke, I think being accused of serious sexual crimes takes priority.

[@JamesMMcCann]

Let's take care of him sexually abusing people for decades before getting into him copying other people's work, shall we?

[@marlonbascombe3427]

@@Benji568 Sandman, the design and concept has apparently all been stolen from British Author Tanith Lee and her "Tales from the Flat Earth Series"

[@herobreaker9011]

do you mean how JK Rowling completely RIPPED OFF Gaiman's Timothy Hunter character, renaming him Harry Potter?

[@pamelalansbury94]

I can’t believe we’re gonna Welcome to Watch Mojo about this

[@simonsimon325]

I know. It's definitely an odd and slightly jarring new direction for them. They must have run out of ideas for the top 20 funniest cat videos etc.

[@ianw0ng]

it's a shame he was not born in usa, otherwise he could run for president.

[@jsagers2008]

Or get pardoned by one.

[@TheMarcHicks]

Yet another person who proves you shouldn't ever idolise ANYONE.

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

Was semi involved with the UK Sci-Fi convention circuit back around 89-92 ish, he made a girl I know feel uncomfortable... from there on I and the rest of the group I was with started to notice him behave as an absolute letch. Now Sci-Fi fans had a reputation at the time, but for every socially awkward person misreading the situation and acting inappropriately, there was also gay people, plenty of what is now obviously asexuals, and the whole spectrum between and around them. But his lechery was well, rather stuck out once you noticed. Never thought it would turn out like this though.

[@razerow3391]

not real. look at the username. All these have numbers after. All same format like bots that have been paid for. Oh and we have a rep? Okay, bot, So you are t a nerd... but you helped...

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

@@razerow3391 Well, considering is was "mostly dead" this time last year, on a ventilator, induced coma, I have had doubts from time to time if I am still here or not.. Certainly my castle storming days seem to be well over. Also your name has numbers in it.

[@zedlarae]

​@@razerow3391buddy, YOU have numbers in your username, it's just as likely YOU'RE a bot

[@blahaj784]

@@razerow3391”look at the username. All these have numbers after.” You’re a bot. We’re all bots by your logic.

[@cmaden78]

Being a creep isn't necessarily illegal. It's not fun, and it sux, but between consenting adults...

[@pastorpresent7774]

At 2:22 is she talking about Gaiman or her brother?

[@timothyivey5497]

That pronunciation of 'tortoise' was like nails on a chalkboard.

[@jabeztomer]

where was that?

[@timothyivey5497]

​@@jabeztomer1:25

[@mrr5297]

YES

[@laurad1487]

It is so hard to know whether it is even possible to separate his body of work from the reality of this talented and damaged man or if it is best to just leave all of his work as tainted. I know I can never watch his films or read his words without a skeptical and jaundiced eye, looking for any hint of the monster hiding within them like a spider in the shadows. He will join the perverted, evil pantheon of authors whose work appeals to the young and to the innocent, and it is there that these predators roam and stalk their victims. Long ago, I was a starry-eyed reader who developed innocent author crushes, and wrote adoring letters to my favorites, most of whom wrote back with kindliness., and a few of whom I later met at their public readings. Although this was long before Mr. Gaiman's ascension into literary stardom, I think of that now and shudder.

[@jobeans4760]

I agree. I find it so difficult to separate the art from the artist, purely because knowing what I know now makes me see the art in a different light, especially the inspirations/motives behind it. He's been one of my favourite authors for decades but now I can't even pick up one of his books.

[@lsweet222]

He wrote a scene like this in his book "the ocean at the end of the lane"

[@LyinBobbyBeefTallow]

Scene like what?

[@williamhutton2126]

"didn't, at the time, feel it was non-consensual" - THE END This is going nowhere. You don't get to change your mind after the fact and call it assault.

[@parkerhatcher224]

I sincerely hope his good friend and a favourite of mine, Tori Amos wasn’t aware of any of this…especially given her activism dating back to the early 90’s involving the exact situation Neil has put these women in. AND that Tori got herself a nanny after Neil said “Tori, you need a nanny”. I really. Really hope she didn’t know. I met Neil once, he was dark. But seemed friendly. He read from a book and it was quite something. I never would have known. But I was only mildly surprised when I found out. If that makes sense. Ps. I do NOT like Amanda Palmer. Not one bit. I never have. I tried to, but she gave off the most uncomfortable energy I’ve ever felt from another artist. I’ve enjoyed some of her music. But her attitude is all wrong. There’s something very wrong there. And she knew the whole time?!! Amanda, really? Really? Horrible. Still…I hope she can learn, and heal. I know how complicated these things are. I know what a sort of “Stockholm syndrome” can feel like with a partner or spouse. But I’m not convinced she felt that way. I just don’t know.

[@shaka994]

I thought about Tori Amos when I heard about this, too. I feel so bad for his fans. I did enjoy some of his graphic novels and the film Stardust, but I could never really get into much beyond that. Awful that someone so beloved by so many could be such a b*stard. I wish all those women well and hope they can recover

[@jobeans4760]

Tori didn't know. I read a very recent interview with her and she was clearly extremely upset by it, but 100% backed the women. She said she didn't want to believe it, but she hadn't spoken to him and doesn't intend to. If I can find a link to it, I'll post it here for you.

[@skuNk_citY]

I hear the narrator making many accusations, insinuating they are facts. If they are facts, you need to cite sources or present interviews that support them. I only want factual details, evidence, interviews.. if they exist. I don't know. I came here to find out and am disappointed.

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

It's weird that the WatchMojoUK video talking about British people doing stuff in Britain uses dollars when talking about money.

[@tipsypeaches]

The Pavolvich stuff happened in New Zealand, and Caroline was in the States, both of which use dollars as currency.

[@mally_draws3023]

"Don't make celebrities your idols" - maybe don't use your position of power to sexually harass and abuse people?!Seems like people are focusing on the wrong issue here

[@jontallon73]

I think Rachel Johnson should investigate her Brother

[@cj-1021]

Unlike Gaiman, Boris hasn't hidden that he's a pos for his entire career lol, what's to investigate? All the worst things he's ever said he said in his own newspaper columns

[@kostantza1]

I think you Brits should be investigating some rape gangs right now,long in the coming.

[@bursegsardaukar]

Neil Gaiman is now like the author in The Sandman episode Calliope.

[@Nomadik]

Allegedly. I pray the accusations are false, but I'm losing hope in that.

[@planetschlock]

Rolling up to the book signing in my white van with "Free Flirty Friendships" scrawled on the side.

[@SalemYbor]

I'm kind of relieved that Terry Pratchett will never know that about his friend

[@leewood729]

I only met Gaiman once, at a convention. I was there as a minor guest, having just published a novel. He was rude and dismissive - possibly because I was nearly a decade older and not a woman who he would have wanted to... well... let's keep it clean, which is more than he did, literally and figuratively. I didn't like him, but didn't get that predator vibe off him, just thought he was an arrogant jackass, which isn't all that unusual in professional writing circles. Now, it seems, not only is his character in question because of his abusive predilections, but it's rapidly circulating within said writing circles that he also may have ripped off quite a few of his ideas, even down to plot and character names, from another writer, the late Tanith Lee, a woman and excellent if undervalued writer of many very good books. The women don't want him "cancelled," just held accountable for what he's done. Damn straight. What he did to those women was nothing short of rape, and he deserves to be held accountable no less than what Harvey Weinstein was. Nobody should touch his work again, and I will never pay another penny to read his books or see any movies he's associated with. Sad, because this will hurt so many within the industry who are good people and completely innocent.

[@Nomadik]

I met him at a book signing, then an older man myself... and he was perfectly polite and friendly, inasmuch as the English tend to be. A bit socially awkward, I thought, but that's it. You may have just met him on a bad day, or I met him on a good one. That said, if the accusations are true, I'll continue to enjoy his work, though I won't pay for it anymore until after he's gone (like with Lovecraft, Tarantino, or Rowling). And if they aren't true, I'll be relieved. We'll just have to see how it turns out.

[@JanGreig-e1j]

Always thought he was creepy but some people thought his books were just wonderful. What is wrong with some men? Their sense of entitlement is beyond belief.

[@lynne3482]

My boss would give me my wages and his friend who owned the shop facing us, cashed my checks I used to beg my boss to stop sending me there I was always subjected to being felt up I was a teenager. Still 30 years later it makes me feel sick

[@AC3handle]

whelp, add another one to the list. the 'people I used to admire, but can't anymore' list.

[@Superz3ro]

Always a good practice to separate the ART from the Artist, or the performance from the performer… idol worship can become so very disappointing… Not condoning his alleged actions; however, these all sound like adults even if they aTwenty or realistically Eighteen year old… Interesting when society allows the power dynamics in one aspect like when law enforcement clearly egregiously over steps their bounds without repercussions, yet attempts to cancel others in social interactions where the aggrieved realistically can opt out of the situation and exact recourse… Heads of state or soon to be, are hardly held accountable for anything these days… 🤔

[@artistEvanDerian]

Great work doesn't mean great person, unfortunately. But ultimately, the work should still be admired and adapted and not punished for the creators actions.

[@scottleespence752]

I remember when the Sandman comics came out and not being impressed by them. At that point I had been reading Tanith Lee for several years and noticed way too many similarities between one of her book series, Tales from the Flat Earth, and Sandman. I have enjoyed many other things he has written, but not to the level of his most ardent fans, probably because I was very well read in the Fantasy genre before he came along. My sympathies go out to everyone who has suffered from his behavior. I only hope that he can take real, conscientious, responsibility for what he has done, and work to heal the harm.

[@gulfofmexico1569]

I'll believe it when its proven in a court of law.

[@amandabeaty1492]

I really wasn't a fan of his. I'd heard of him only because I like Tori Amos. What a jerk! He's a long time friend of Tori Amos and they've even collaborated. Him doing that while being a close friend of Amos when she was also a SA survivor is unbelievable.

[@bangslamwham88]

I really want to know what Tori Amos is thinking RN.

[@amandabeaty1492]

@bangslamwham88 I read an article in the Irish Times. She's pretty upset about it.

[@jobeans4760]

@@bangslamwham88 She wants nothing to do with him. I read an interview last week where she was asked about it. I'll link it here if I can.

[@bangslamwham88]

@@jobeans4760 Please do.

[@maubus]

At 4:30 ... "at the time she didn't view what had happened as non-consensual". Wait a second, this means she consented then and later revoked the consent ? I am not defending what he did just trying to understand the implications of this to the "make sure it is consensual" idea. THe idea is perfect and makes total sense and is a consequence of basic human dignity. But if consent can be later revoked, consent never really exists.

[@bryanwigmore7224]

Someone with low self-esteem might assume that not objecting to something counts as consent. Predators are well versed in using arguments like "You gave me that look, I thought you wanted it", which the victim might believe or at least feel uncertain about challenging.

[@ebonyedwards-ellis8165]

No, it means that he did something nonconsensual. But, having internalized rape culture and having low self-esteem, the victim may not have understood that she was the victim of a crime.

[@gretelh3144]

@@bryanwigmore7224. I agree with maubus. If a person with low self esteem doesn’t speak up to say no (as you describe), how would the other person ever know that they weren’t into it? I can count a number of times when I’ve had an intimate encounter and afterwards thought geez, I really wish that hadn’t happened. But during the act I went along with it because I was maybe a little into the person and only afterwards did I realize I wasn’t into them. I see that as I gave consent. I was engaged. I wasn’t coerced. It was just another bad choice I made.

[@bryanwigmore7224]

@@gretelh3144 Yeah, I've been in some of those too, and back when the "rules of consent" were less strict than they are today, there was obviously room for bluriness. But if one party is in a position of power (e.g. older, an employer) then the onus is on them to check for consent, and always has been (or should have been). We don't know exactly what happened in this case, but it's certainly possible for someone either to tell themselves they consented or be persuaded to believe so, especially where the other person has much more power. It doesn't sound to me like this was a case where consent was freely given then withdrawn after the event, but one where it was taken for granted in a situation where it never should have been. As for your question how would the person know they weren't into it, it's dead easy. Ask.

[@sabeaniebaby]

Consent is not the default.

[@QuilLocke]

11:28 That’s the perfect response to all of these horrible famous people harassing other people.

[@starrywizdom]

Isn't that how everyone feels? Cancelling is stupid. Accountability is key.

[@Roosters-rants1977]

I don't believe any allegations without evidence. Especially when money is involved. A cheater and pervert. Sure. Rapist. Not so sure. The video creators ideals of consent is ridiculous.

[@jonathanwright8025]

This is why I stick to unproblematic comic book writers like Frank Miller and Orson Scott Card.

[@starrywizdom]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA times a million. Thanks for the larf!

[@writerartist6306]

LOL good one

[@rumblefish9]

Frank Miller unproblematic 🤣 What rock have you been living in?

[@brokkolikanone]

@@rumblefish9 It's called sarcasm. Sarcasm never worked well on the Internets.

[@hollandanish5557]

It is hard to see so many of our cultural heroes turn out to be monsters. I often wonder if that distortion is there at the outset or if the power of celebrity or wealth supercharges the tendencies and enhances the predatory aspect of their character. Like all groomers they become skilled at preying on the young, the vunerable, those who are dependant on them and who admire them. Sadism and domination as part of a sexual relationship are always going to be fraught because the acts themselves are about degradation of the other inorder to intensify your own gratification. I cannot imagine how acts of degradation can be other than harmful. Maybe I am wrong and perhaps someone who has a diferente perspective can explain it to me. This makes me very sad. I do not know what a suitable punishment is for this kind of transgression. I hope that his victims will find a way to heal and not have their lives destroyed by this abuse.

[@jaybee1196]

Why hasn’t Rachel Johnson apologised for her brother?

[@ericamacs3875]

This. I find it hypocritical her even doing this with her brother, who she defends. Ugh.

[@JMEhill82]

I just bought a book collection of he's. If this is true I just supported a monster. And I was sexual assaulted a few times from child to recent. I am disgusted 😒 😢

[@KeiuroFanForever]

*I have all the Sandman graphic novels and Endless Nights (I bought these many years ago) I want to give them away but I feel they're tainted now. Do I throw them in the garbage? Ugh.

[@jobeans4760]

I have pretty much everything he's ever written. I can't even bring myself to look at the shelf.

[@mariahello5472]

Can we not forget the Scientology? Blows my mind how its never spoken of. His parents were high ranking officials, his siblings are still in & important within it, as well as his first wife (& mother to his first 3 kids!). I could buy that he's an atheist after the trauma, but not that he convinced his first wife not to expose his first kids to the cult

[@aimeegallant-bruns5784]

My ex husband (marriage ended in DV abuse) was obsessed with Neil Gaiman, Elon Musk, I can go on. To see all of these men be reviled for their true nature... has been something that has triggered me but also explains a lot of the mind fuckery I have had to undo. While I was a fan of some of Gaiman's work, there were times I felt off. I was also a big Palmer fan (Back at the start of Dresden Dolls) but it kind of died off after the 2010's. Its sad to think she knew so much and still didn't really do much to address it. Especially when you listen to her music and you know she addresses this shit (Gravity, Missed Me come immediately to mind) My ex used to get so mad at me for not getting so into Good Omens... I feel like my subconscious was picking up on something I just couldn't figure out in my conscious mind. I really don't know how to feel about the art work - can you separate the person from the art? I dunno.

[@EverettvonNordeck-gf2cw]

Well let's hope like the majority he was a fan of his creative content and not his character ( unknown until know).

[@abrahamlupis9354]

we do that with Samsung the Leukemia maker

[@PossumLover1111]

It's been said b many who knew him, about Pablo Picasso that he beat several of his women. Yet his art is practically worshiped.

[@julianking4793]

Yes. A rational, unbiased, person who is not biased by an overwhelming emotional reaction to the person that created the art can separate them from their creations. If the sins of the creatives from history were held against them, such that their works were banned, then the museums and libraries of the world would be empty indeed. Art is made by people, with all the usual moral, and personal, failings that humans are prey to. This is one of the reasons that it has power for us. If you only want safe art then you should engage with AI. It generates safe, sterile, sanctimonious, socially acceptable slop. It has though, no real meaning or relevance for mere mortals trying to find their way through the labyrinth of existence. None of this is to refute your evident emotion relating to your lived experience or indeed to the revelation of these horrific accusations, but you would be making your own life all the poorer, if you only exposed yourself to art made by perfect people (whoever they may be?).

[@kostantza1]

Amanda Palmer was a POS long before she met Gaiman, sorry to tell you.Also, Good Omens was mostly written by Terry Pratchett, so if you were getting vibes, you must have got a real geodar there.

[@MetalSlug-ev5wu]

Celebrities all seem to be characters from Garth Ennis stories.

[@markcarey67]

One woman making an accusation against a famous guy....maybe it's bullshit...into double digits and that is a definite pattern of behaviour.

[@Eilandfreier364]

Or just a bunch of exes who smell blood in the water. Let the justice system do its thing.

[@cherylhulting1301]

This is hardly the inky accusation Gaiman has faced. Do some research.

[@jobeans4760]

It's 9 women. Is that a pattern, or does there need to be one more?

[@Nomadik]

It _could_ be bandwagonning, but I'm not super optimistic about it. Remember when multiple women accused Michael Jackson of SAing their kids, and they all turned out to be making it up?

[@Eilandfreier364]

@@jobeans4760 And how many of these women actually went to the police and reported the alledged crimes. Zero you say? How curious...

[@sharonramsey715]

It makes me wonder just how much fellow authors in this field knew about Gaiman, if anything.

[@TheDOS]

Another amazing artist but horrible person :(

[@abrahamlupis9354]

the accusers

[@marsoblivi0n945]

Another case of no evidence. Not certain

[@rubenlara30]

Oof… I feel like Obi-Wan Kenobi seeing Anakin burn.

[@JamieVideoGamer]

accusations are just accusations until proven true. Leave it to the evidence and courts to decide if he is guilty

[@abrahamlupis9354]

stop believing sensational sources and X would contribute to stop liars to misuse the MeToo

[@fenris3394]

If guilty, accountability for his abuses. The courts have to make that determination. Allegations from so many women makes me think he's guilty tho.

[@itsdebs]

He can't be a very good 'master' if he has to force himself on women. Says a lot about his lack of allure, his lack of charm and lack of gravitas. He's just a sad wannabe. He would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.

[@HerbieBancock]

the Neil Gaiman situation is that he's a terrible writer who makes lonely goth kids feel like their terrible journal entries can become art someday and that's the closest thing to validation they're ever going to get.

[@sibionic]

'Too sickening to repeat' - isn't proper journalism.

[@emfrymcfly]

Yeah if you want journalism this isn't the channel for you

[@SandiByrd]

This is KZbin homie. Go buy a newspaper.

[@darkdogstudios]

He pissed on his hand and made a woman lick it off. That tells you everything you need to know about the “Master”….

[@judyhawkins6584]

I'm not surprised, but I'm really saddened.

[@davidlance5310]

Calling it. Sandman season 2 isn’t going to air despite filming completed last year even though Netflix can just remove his credits & try to not give it as much publicity like warner bros with The Flash movie

[@MasterGeek-mk5ne]

The series will still going to air

[@bradleynelson4217]

It will air because previous projects where the creatives have been accused of SA allegations have gone a head because of the many over people involved. Case and point The Flash, Death On The Nile, White Gold.

[@uwcb1]

I won’t watch it

[@ericamacs3875]

It will air for sure. They just won't do a load of chat shows to promote it. People will also watch it. The vast majority of the public will never hear about this or notice. And even fans who say they're horrified will watch because who is going to know?

[@marsoblivi0n945]

It better still air. He hasn’t been found guilty. We can’t just destroy art because others can’t enjoy anymore. That’s on you.

[@williamwood7338]

I like F&SF, I’ve loved Gaiman’s works since the early 90’s, when I started reading them, but I’m not devoted to him, and haven’t followed everything he has released. I will continue to enjoy the work he has produced, as it is separate to him. Whilst I await prosecution and conviction to determine if he is innocent or not, this will only change my view of him as an individual. I understand how some may find it distasteful to read his work if it is true, but as others have pointed out, many famous and respected artwork and books have been produced by vile individuals, but are still on display or are available to read. If people still want to purchase the works then they should be able to. Whether or not he gains financially from this is a different matter also. Given that even if convicted, and whatever sentencing he suffers, during this and after he would still need to work, so if he continued to write then he would continue to earn. The only ways to prevent him from earning from it would be to cease purchasing anything by him, removing his rights to earn from sales, or an unpalatable alternative would be to instigate capital punishment for such crimes. The most reasonable is the first, which appears to be what happens with musicians in a similar position.

[@johnscott6481]

Damn. I have a feeling gaiman has bad proclivity. But I would be lying if I told my eyebrows and brain didnt screech on the brakes when I heard ' she continued on nannying as she did not regard the event as non consensual but that was because of low self worth. ' apparently deciding her own take after the event was more reliable than her take as It happened? This also means that adults literally can't be trusted with their own relationship and understanding to and with the words yes o. Power dynamic needs to be considered, but wed better really think about a world where people are going back and forth based on passage of time and who knows whatever motivation. Has anyone ever said no first but really meant yes? Pretty strange dichotomies you get into once you go down that rode and a pretty dangerous realm of reciprocal thought. Its hard to think someone's innocent completely when they enjoy age and power disparity like he apparently does. But whatever it takes, maybe new rules for consent or what have you will be needed in a world where its a credible idea,credible allegation where the victim literally thought there was consent at the time of the act only to come to a conclusion later 180 degrees in the other direction to non consent.

[@Mel-wn9gb]

This is *exactly* the problem with BDSM and sexual sadism. A person can convince themselves that a violation never happened and that they consented, *precisely* because of the dissociation and trauma that such an encounter can cause, and then over the passage of time get well enough to realize that it *was* a violation. People who participate in BDSM are well aware of this themselves, which is why the have the dead giveaway practice of 'aftercare', where abusers get the opportunity to gaslight and soothe their victims and try to convince them that it was all ok.

[@shaka994]

Trauma can seriously f*ck with your head.

[@orboakin8074]

Those who are loudest and quick to virtue signal, usually have no virtue at all😔

[@BluesyVlogs]

Wow so not surprised. He defends Israel's actions and now this, And Amanda was supposed to be a feminist and fighting for a better world. She must be either totally ashamed or was in on it and faking it.

[@TeeK69]

how does someone 'force' you to take a bath? but regardless, it offended her so much that she later married him, and stayed married for years. this is trash journalism and yet another claim of consensual 'assault'

[@AuT0maTe1]

I'm confused how do you convince someone to have a bath outside?

[@chojay13]

It's probably an outdoor hot tub/Jacuzzi would be my guess

[@AuT0maTe1]

@@chojay13 then why is it said as convinced to have a bath? soaking in a jacuzzi is not really having a bath lol

[@jmaguire2232]

Manipulation, psychological coercion, the threat of unemployment. If you don’t understand, you’ve been lucky in life.

[@mckernan603]

@@chojay13 Maybe they were role-playing as cowboys taking a bath in stock tank? Yeehaaaaaaw!

[@robo3007]

They were having an afair. She apparently asked Gaiman after he groped her if his wife knew they were romantically involved.

[@jamesstewart8376]

So no more Dead Boy Detectives? 😨😨😨

[@MasterGeek-mk5ne]

Like, is that really happening? Like at all?

[@dancingheron]

I Loved some of his work. I got the feeling a few years ago, his ego had gotten huge, playing a role of humble famous author. I stopped liking him personally.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Uh oh. James Gunn put himself in an intro and I kinda hate him now. It's almost not fair to him. But the show was also mid. Awful music.

[@lestat1uk]

Okay, let's put it this way...Michael Jackson allegations, he paid off one kid, and most of the world thought Michael Jackson was innocent, a lot of the time the fans never believed victims and supported him. Now these allegations have come out against Neil Gaimen, he has paid off some of the victims but the fans have condemned what he may or may not have done. Now here is my point (well there are two really). First the double standard as Michael Jackson was a megastar he was treated differently, i sometimes wonder how he would have got on if the allegations against Michael came out today and he was still alive. Neil Gaimen being an author despite his allegations is a very talented author. These allegations against need to be investigated and looked into and i hope the victims get their day in court. Secondly when do we seperate the person from the art? Do people stop listening to Michael Jackson music? No of course not, will people stop watching Firefly on repeat? Or Buffy? No. Is it wrong to listen to Gary Glitters music? Or despite Rolf Harris being a paedophile he was a great artist. People are complicated and to simply stop reading Neil's works or watching the tv shows is wrong (imo) but it is never right to condone his actions (if true)