It Leaks Everywhere! - Sloppy Case Backhoe Repairs

Fixing leaky cylinders and other ailments on an old Case 580C backhoe that sat for many years.

[@paulhammond7489]

I don't think I'm on my own here, but I'd happily watch you repairing your shop vac.... Bring em on :)

[@michaelstedman9158]

Or build a new office or build a new electronics bench or repair a roof on you dads barn........😂

[@shawnperkins1159]

Definitely not alone.

[@DoubleE-2250]

Wes does not make it look easy, which is reality. His expressiveness while performing this teardown really conveys its difficulty. His grunts & sweat show the physical effort required. Thank you Wes.

[@larrymashburn7789]

I thought I was the only one that bitched and moaned during a job. At least that's what my dad told me.

[@WatchWesWork]

It's enjoyable, but it's still work...

[@jameselder2418]

If I had made this video, the audio would have been 28 minutes of continuous BEEPS.

[@LouJustlou]

@WatchWesWork Grandad always told me, "If work was fun, you'd have to pay admission. "

[@markchatman9583]

@@jameselder2418 until I built my garage, my wife would tell the neighbors I have work triggered Tourette’s. Now in my garage they can’t hear me… as much.

[@_P0tat07_]

Don’t be afraid to upload videos of equipment Wes, I love watching this kind of stuff.

[@yarpos]

I agree. I dont know anything about tractors, and large hydraulics so its interesting to see how it all goes together

[@imrf]

Yep. C&C Equipment is another cool channel to watch for heavy machinery.

[@rickyj2013]

I would watch this guy change a toilet to be perfectly honest

[@Porty1119]

I *prefer* equipment videos. I hate working on cars; I might cuss at equipment but at the end of the day I generally enjoy fixing the stuff. Especially getting paid to do it.

[@madisonjam85]

If it’s not leaking, it’s empty!

[@bender2033]

The old Land Rover motto 😂

[@major__kong]

And radial aircraft engines.

[@GrandsonofKong]

Guy I knew said the same thing about his old Harley, when I commented about the puddle where he parked it at work..........then showed me the quart of oil he always had with him.

[@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC]

Not leaking, marking its territory. 😅

[@3sparewashers-lg3gf]

*Detroit Diesel has joined the chat*

[@nolanbrown84]

To me this is one of the most interesting videos you've made. I grew up in a 1980 Case 580C. It was my dad's second backhoe after he bought a 73 case in 1976. I'm fortunate enough that my mom was an amazing photographer in those days so I have dozens and dozens of photos of my dad running that 580C doing anything from the most intricate and dangerous of digging for gas companies to tearing trees out in our own backyard. Fun story: We were given a large upright piano and my parents always thought my sister and I would learn to play, we never did. But the fun part was the stairs into our basement came straight off the backdoor. He put the one foot bucket on the backhoe, strapped the piano ever so carefully to the bucket and slid the piano straight down the stairs from the back patio. Unstrapped it and on the way out of the house he reached over a foot or so and flipped the hallway light switch off at the bottom of the stairs with the tooth of the bucket. The man was a surgeon with that machine.

[@DinDooIt]

I worked with a guy that would rest the track hoe bucket tooth on coworkers car antennas, precision is an understatement.

[@jakealter5504]

My dad has a similar backhoe except his is a 580B and it’s a little older (mid 1970’s)

[@WatchWesWork]

What's funny is I can fix them, but I have two left hands when it comes to running them.

[@nolanbrown84]

@@WatchWesWork my dad started in the oilfield in Southwest Nebraska in 1973 and had never run a backhoe before. The foreman refused to pay for a ditch witch trencher because they were "too costly." So he put my dad in a backhoe and my dad dug flow lines for oil wells all day long for three years. Miles and miles going backwards. In 76 he started his own roustabout service and bought a newer backhoe AND a trencher! I'm kinda a mix of both...I can both work on them and run them but I consider myself a floperator where my dad was an operator. I can get it done but nothing near a match to his capabilities. Thanks for posting this video! I'm looking forward to part two!!

[@dondalrymple5794]

@@nolanbrown84floperator I’m stealing that! Made my day!

[@ronburgundy6579]

I’m not sure what I enjoy the most. Watching Wes struggle, his comedic commentary, or a successful repair. All I know is I enjoy the content. Keep up the good work, sir!

[@hannahranga]

I feel bad enjoying it but yeah watching Wes struggle is entertaining especially as you don't see that in most channels

[@pnuttheclownh2254]

WWW is entertaining, factual, humorous and just plain nice.

[@WatchWesWork]

I try.

[@coreybabcock2023]

​@@WatchWesWorkthat's all that matters you do better than i would that's for sure

[@harrywalker968]

@@WatchWesWork thats kinda a baumer.. ring them, see if they still send kits 7 why they were deleted..

[@harrywalker968]

@@WatchWesWork bought a seal repair kit for the dodge challenger steering box. ended up buying 3, all same, . the install mud map, was a mud map, this is why i bought more, for a detailed map. even the cd, has the same bs mud map.. so, bought a whole new borgensen box.. damn.. gave the old box & seals to my mech. no one here in aus knows anything about them.. big problem..

[@harrywalker968]

@@WatchWesWork how you get 16 gallons of water in your g/box.. [ loan it to a female service centre].. sorry. old girlfriend changed car oil, was filling it thru the dip stik.???. common prob i hear..

[@mdbelt1]

It's like a midwest episode of Cutting Edge Engineering. Love it. Keep up the good work.

[@fabiankropp1792]

Exactly thought that. At CEE you can see how really messed cylinders are repaired. Kurtis does the ones Wes will not be able to do :-)

[@mdariff839]

Wes will be able to the same if he has all the machine that CEE has​@@fabiankropp1792

[@bejay69]

@@fabiankropp1792 Also Jon at Farmcraft101

[@grilnam9945]

This post reinforces my conspiracy theory that there are only really 100 KZbinrs in the world and all the other thumbnails are fakes.

[@ron827]

But one big difference is that Wes make famlly friendly videos.

[@steamfan7147]

Wes, I am currently working on a forklift for a customer where someone dropped a quart of brake fluid in the hydraulic system "cause brake fluid will rejuvenate old hydraulic seals". I can testify that it does indeed work, it "rejuvenates" seals by making you replace them, ALL of them in the whole system.

[@WatchWesWork]

Oh no!

[@markrandall1456]

😂

[@ralfie8801]

They put too much in! It only takes about a cup for a few gallons of hydraulic oil (or ATF in a transmission), too much brake fluid makes the seals swell too much and get too soft. It works OK to get a job done, but ultimately the seals are worn out and that caused them to leak in the first place. New seals are the only good permanent repair.

[@steamfan7147]

@@ralfie8801 They had one cylinder leaking, all the rest were dry and functioning fine until they dropped the brake fluid in. It went from a $500-600 job to a $4,000+ job. Urethane lip seals are not compatible with any amount of DOT3 🤣🤣

[@ralfie8801]

@@steamfan7147 OK, I hadn’t thought about that, but I do know that was an old time fleet mechanic trick with some large companies like the phone company to slow or stop automatic transmission leaks. It would get them by for another year or so. But putting too much in would do more than just swell some hard/worn out seals up n

[@samuelspade889]

Best advice, ever: Beat to fit, Paint to match!

[@evangoodlock1]

I absolutely love that old oliver tractor.

[@gritnix]

I love all these channels, and Cutting Edge Engineering is the channel to watch someone rebuild giant cylinders. It's a really great shop down under.

[@Hyratel]

Wes and Kurtis have very different styles of videos, but oth are engaging and entertaining.

[@peetky8645]

the joys of a giant gantry crane

[@gritnix]

@@Hyratel For sure. Love 'em both.

[@henrysboy2]

I don’t know what is more challenging - the cars and light trucks you fix or the back hoe’s and farm equipment you work on. Such different issues.

[@WatchWesWork]

Yes.

[@bostedtap8399]

​@@WatchWesWorkNo favouritism then. 😀

[@funonoldwheels7150]

Thank god, a repair Video! I almost forgot you used to do these.

[@rickblanchette]

I like the pun " That is not the Case "

[@anonimity5548]

"That's kind of a Baum-mer"

[@jz9189]

Cutting Edge Engineering is another great channel. He does a lot heavy duty cylinder repair as well as machining and fabrication!

[@gregquante8864]

Love the drawings. Always educational. Thanks for taking the time to do these

[@k.s.1871]

Ya can never go wrong with a hydraulics video for your viewer base, Wes .... looking forward to part II !

[@pkdoh6466]

Wes makes me feel a whole lot better about my trials when working on machinery. I am also developing quite the snarky attitude (according to my wife when she is roped into helping .......she has called me "Wes" on the odd occasion.

[@waynegoebel395]

I love hard work, I could watch it for hours. 😊

[@pakkelly]

Your enthusiastic viewers are both newbies who have everything to learn and old pros who know there is always something new to learn. Your lesson on parts search is pure gold. Thank you.

[@mikemarriam]

Yes, he did a good job. Abom79 has an in-depth video on cylinder repair that is worthwhile also.

[@keen0515]

The old tractor stuff is my favorite. You gotta film some more of the Case please!

[@jimmydm3]

If it won't go, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway. Sound mechanical wisdom. Great video. I've determined it's better to fix the cylinders yourself than send them out.

[@aserta]

Listen, i know they have a purpose, but i will never not laugh at the number of eyelets on that bucket 2:53, because in my head, that tractor screams "it's not a phase, dad!". :))

[@WatchWesWork]

I think they are for a fork attachment. Common on backhoes, though these are pretty roughly made.

[@lewisgeyer1440]

Backhoe videos will never get old, thanks.

[@Spencer02]

Looks very difficult reconnecting the hydraulic hose's Wes, a lot of work for sure. Awesome video Wes 👍👍👍👍

[@tomparker7140]

Fixing a backhoe is a whole lot more exciting than building lofts - stairs- electronic tables. Thanks for working on some iron.

[@daviduglem3213]

Wes, you my man are a pleasure to watch! Spent time as a track mechanic in Vietnam 70-71. (We had a few "naturals" but guys at 19 to 22 years old, lots more brawn than experience ) It was hot and or wet, no power tools to speak of. Farm boys with tractor experience mostly. We were helicoptered out into the field to work on tanks, personnel carriers, and bulldozers. (The army school for this was about 8 weeks long so you can imagine! Lol. You, by the way would have fit right in. Beer tall stories and dreaming of home. I'm 74 and I still have one friend that was in my platoon still farming in Missouri. Good luck my friend you have a good looking family and a secure job. (All our hydraulics use 10 w/ oil)

[@daviduglem3213]

We lost a lot of tools in the mud.

[@noahingram8052]

Cutting edge engineering

[@Military-Museum-LP]

The owner really loves this machine to invest this much into a older machine.

[@lanceglassgow3761]

Can’t wait for part two. I love equipment videos. THEY ARE NOT BORING.

[@Michael-sz4he]

Wes is like a one stop mechanical shop. Imagine having him as your mechanic? It would be like a warm safety blanket. Whatever piece of crap I bring em, he'll fix it. 😂

[@lolatmyage]

Really nice and informative video, to the point and no wasted time

[@josephking6515]

*Thanks* for sharing Wes. Whatever you charge for these jobs it's at least half of what it should be. I could not do what you do. I would spend half my time looking for the tools that seems to get dispersed around the workshop after magically flying from my _grasp._ 😲

[@pontiacmaniac2]

When you were first moving it, I saw all the liquid pool underneath it, and I was like holy Jesus, that thing does leak, then I realized it was from the rear bucket, lol

[@WatchWesWork]

Yeah the buckets both still hold water.

[@Hey_Its_That_Guy]

At least something on it held fluid... 🤣

[@warrenmichael918]

@@WatchWesWork looks like the trans holds water as well~!! LOL

[@Oldscudrunner]

About 20 years ago, I had a Case 680 that I bought out of a field. Holy crap did that thing leak hydraulic oil. The biggest leak was on the boom cylinder. I had to chain it up in place to load it on the truck. I rebuilt the that cylinder and several others and replaced many hydraulic hoses. I used it for a couple years to build my "Driveway from Hell" (that's another long story) and sold it afterwards. I was glad to see it go because I had about an hour of maintenance to every hour of use.

[@AndrewHCann]

Excellent video Wes :) also fixed up Hydraulic cylinders you get workout take apart plus reassembled back together and much more! Yes do understand part 2 on it and plus my Cousin Daniel has one those backhoe tractors done him lots years of good use and his construction business !

[@johnkruton9708]

If someone hasn’t said it already search this kinda repair on CEE from Gold Coast area of Australia. Works heavy duty mining equipment. Stellar workmanship. CEE Engineering. He has had similar problems with much bigger rods. (Edit after watching the whole vid) Now I see you are as good an educator as Kurtis from CEE thanks for the explaining of the seals and such. I’ll never do this work but my way of relaxing is watching “how it’s made” type content. Why I also have bought that series and enjoy fixing stuff that breaks (when I can) around the house.

[@RustyMcentire-l5u]

It's amazing, the blogger is really creative and worth watching

[@cg9218]

Totally badass as always Wes. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge

[@JNHEscapes]

I would definitely be interested in seeing the entire service and repair of this backhoe by you. I think you missed some good content here. Start to finish in great detail could have been a cool series.

[@WatchWesWork]

I've covered everything I've done so far. No one can afford to fix everything. We're just hitting the big stuff.

[@JNHEscapes]

@@WatchWesWork understandable you just mentioned at the beginning you weren’t going to film it and I immediately thought I would love to see it all…

[@tmchase7]

I'm suprised at those that were double shear on one end and single on the other. Interesting stuff 👍!

[@dfross87]

It's so nice having a cylinder tear-down bench. With a BFO cylinder underneath to pull the rod out if I need it. Wes, if your building has heavy steel verticals (i-beams or similar) holding the roof up, weld on a pair of ears and machine up some adaptors so you can secure barrels/rods to them. Then you can really lean on the gland/piston to break it loose.

[@onebadsavage26]

I'm always impress with your skill. When I first started watching your videos way back when, I thought your were a competent mechanic trying to provide for your family. But as time has gone by, you have shown us that you are far more than just a mechanic. We are lucky you share all your skills and knowledge with us. Good job WWW.

[@davidcperron]

I went to a local hydraulics shop in Bloomington, IN and the owner had everything in stock. I did try going through the LS tractor company but they don’t sell seals for their cylinders. They will sell you a new cylinder, LOL. Maybe the local LS dealer would have been the right choice. I did the work myself; first time repacking hydraulics for me. Thanks to Wes and Farmcraft101 for showing how it’s done.

[@joelaughlin2815]

Mucho bueno!! Very well done!! Hope mom n kid r ok, I’m 83, worked on n operated equipment when younger, none of what you’re doing is easy! I really admire you n yours, my late wife was a teacher, she seems to be a great gal!

[@austinadventure]

Condensation for the large volume of water would be my assumption too. I work at a large flower bulb production greenhouse, Our articulation loaders and large tractors (Kubota M6 series tractors) have issues with case sweating being inside the hot greenhouse then to outside in the cooler temps or vise versa. We end up having issues with the condensation build up contaminating the oil in the pto driven spreader trailers they pull. Only real solution we have found is to make sure they are filled to optimum level, less surface in the case exposed for sweating to occur.... maybe lol. Great video as usual Wes!!

[@johnlogan6268]

Definitely water build up is from condensation. As you stated, transmissions and rear axles do not typically generate enough heat to bake out the moisture, so it builds up. If you read the Case operators manual, it usually will recommend a drain and change annually. It probably had not been changed in years so would have easily produced that much condensate, especially just sitting idle.

[@jamesbondero6170]

John, over at Farmcraft channel, rebuilt some monster cylinders. Heavy, dangerous work!

[@DavoShed]

Give it the old Watch Wes Work Tug. 🤠 Re water in the transmission? Park it in the shed. If it looks like rain my tractor goes inside 🤠

[@daveamo3237]

I feel your pain your, man. Hydraulics repair is never easy, nor is it clean. I'm a retired truck mechanic. Replacing seals in telescoping cylinders is only a stop gap measure. The shop where we were eventually sent them to

[@mavision6525]

Im not sure about other folks, but this is exactly the kind of machines (and trucks) I like watching you repair as opposed to cars.

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

You definitely know hydraulic cylinder rebuilds and I know you have probably rebuilt hundreds more than I. I have had great success over the years breaking those rod end bolts/nuts loose by putting my breaker bar on then striking it very sharply with a 4lb shop hammer even before I hit it with an impact or put a breaker bar on it. Mainly because it works more times than not and at 79yo, I'm getting entirely too old to be hanging onto the end of a breaker bar! Seriously. p.s. I really enjoy your videos! I actually started my own farm equipment business when I was 14, so I enjoy seeing equipment, especially the old stuff, being brought back to life. Thanks! p.p.s. Loctite 545 on all petrochem fittings. Never another leaking fitting. Teflon? Just say no.

[@haydenc2742]

Next time..have a helper hold a shop vac w/ a rag over the fill port on the tank...turn it on...then open the line..the air will suck in and not let the fuel out (and even the oil..changed a stripped out oil pan bolt on a car oil pan this way) not sure if it will work on hydraulic fluid unless it's on the return side, pull the line, put a plug in the fitting... Very cool rebuild...those wipers should keep water out until they dry rot, modern plastics should last longer than the older style rubber ones Keep em coming!!!!

[@jaygraham5407]

This is how you replace hydraulic/transmission filter on a JD 5100m

[@cougarhunter33]

I grew up with a 580B. Occasionally I get wistful and miss it. Then I see things like this, and it's like "Oh yeah." Such as, when we first got it, every time we used it, we broke a hose. Eventually, they all got replaced one at a time.

[@brucemitchell5637]

Ahhhh, the joy of working on hydraulics! Always so clean and grease free, not to mention hydraulic fluid NEVER gets all over EVERYTHING!! 😂

[@larryskeeper1197]

Stained clothes that never wash out properly. Stinking oil, especially the hone oil. Great fun ..

[@jaxsonhugh9334]

Perfect Sunday morning…..coffee and a WWW video…..👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@FlatThunder]

I go with Martin Fluid Power for my seals, but it's always a guessing game. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose 🙄. Nice work on the cylinders Wes! 👍😁

[@oldodger]

Backhoes are NEVER BORING !

[@fred9za]

I am so glad you upload this vid as what to you may be boring work is fascinating to me a guy that has no clue about this stuff but enjoys stealing with the eye.

[@arthurjennings5202]

Oh the joys or working on equipment that is older than you are. I don't have that problem anymore. At age 79, most of the stuff I worked on has already rusted into immobility as have I.

[@kendiggy]

I agree with others, happy to watch you fix anything! Never thought I'd get sucked into a hydraulic piston repair, but I liked it, and loved that I learned something new!

[@Tromador]

I particularly enjoyed the repurposing of an old sock as an oily rag for mopping up spilt diesel.

[@thadh4085]

Thanks for not swearing. It really is much appreciated.

[@gregj7916]

I like the Case Construction Livery..... I'm glad I didn't get the resealing job just because the weather looked fairly humid...

[@criswagemansbophadoung8081]

Great video... looking forward to part 2

[@joedowling5452]

For a second I thought that forklift was going to get dragged across the tarmac. Thanks for the seals 101 class.

[@lamestuser]

Love the CEE trick of using the press to hold the rod while dealing with retaining bolt.

[@ralfie8801]

Wes, it looked like you encountered the thing that ALWAYS bites me during reassembly - those hard lines and sometime even hoses don’t always want to line back up and you end up spending as much time on one fitting as you did on the rest of the project. I felt your frustration!

[@mbazzy123]

Nicely done video Wes I really appreciate learning how to work on new things. I have a Massey and at some point I will need to do these.

[@breikowski]

Kurtis gives a knowing nod, and approves.

[@firstlast7867]

Thanks for the drawing

[@mikec6831]

Good deal, a part 2 to look forward to seeing.

[@nicholashall6850]

It's funny you post this, we have the exact same machine except ours has two more Rams on the bucket for I guess helping lift the bucket. Had to replace every single seal in it

[@publicclammer]

Waiting patiently for episode #2!

[@Military-Museum-LP]

06:18. I was performing the same thing this Last week and could not remove it. My Volvo construction dealer had one of these heat transfer electrical thing. It heated threads in seconds and we removed it. Incredible how these things work. I loved this video Wes!

[@JyveKilla]

you being angry at the hose that you couldnt get the thread to start and then once you got it the background sound is birds chirping happily... perfect videography haha

[@ncpcast]

The good old Oliver to rescue.

[@lawrenceengel3330]

That is just a ton of heavy work that takes time and a mastery of the work involved, well done Wes!

[@TheCreat]

What do you mean, it isn't all that interesting so you weren't gonna make a video about it? That just seems to be a wildly incorrect assessment from where I'm sitting... Glad you changed your mind!

[@WatchWesWork]

Yeah it turned out to be pretty interesting, especially with the mysteries inside the cylinders.

[@slalomking]

@@WatchWesWork we learn from everything do. You are wise beyond your years !

[@walterrobbins4470]

I think I can speak for many of your fans. We find repairs like this plenty interesting

[@theryno1193]

You know an informative explanation from Wes is coming on when his hand starts emphasizing his words!

[@bigbill709]

Good shape for the shape it's in.

[@bchdsailor]

Morning started with a perfect video (77minutes) with Oliver and now a perfect 74minute video from Wes, just another happy Sunday

[@richardphelan8414]

Always a interesting show watching Wes work simply because you never know what your going to see

[@francisbarbeau1862]

Great Work! I will enjoy part 2!! Great Job!!!

[@tzajaczajac]

Love these machinery videos😁

[@howiej4084]

It's a LOT more entertaining watching someone else do it... Nice one Wes.

[@SCRedneckRC-Tony]

Long time subscriber, but rarely comment but love to watch you work.

[@robertgarrett5009]

Ahh, the enjoymrent of watching someone else struggle with hydralic cylinders. I'm glad this is going to run to a second and maybe third epeisode.

[@SteveMelissaMcAdams]

Great job, as always it's always a pain in the southern region trying to fix worn out junk

[@thetoolman3]

I've said it before. I'll say it again. Wes, your tenacity and perseverance are inspirational. I used to give up on more challenging projects, or phone a friend with more experience, or at least more tenacity. But your transparency in showing your struggles gives me hope that my struggles won't prevent me from finishing whatever I'm working on. Thank you.

[@mikehors7351]

Wow what a can of worms but thank you for the great info and can not wait to see part 2. Keep up the cool vid's.

[@kevinmichael9933]

I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.

[@coreybabcock2023]

Great job on pulling that rod out 👍💪

[@M_Phipps0520]

Thanks for a great explanation of resealing cylinders Wes!!

[@Marrerful2]

Wes is a grafter he ain’t afraid of any job, from a bit of joinery to taking any m/c apart. This is how America was built, look, think then get stuck in what a great guy.

[@weyayemanjoe3082]

Great stuff Wes Looking forward to Pt 2 👍🏻

[@VorlonFrog]

"Not really all that interesting?" After you've abused it and ignored it for so long, and we've all seen it? Nahhh, this gon' be GOOD. So far, we've got a forklift and a tractor pulling a cylinder open/apart. That's a good start. We've got a complete catalog explanation for seals and gaskets. And complete reality to end the video - perfect!! Ya done good, Wes!!

[@olspanner]

You really had your strengths on show here Wes. Thanks again.