Orientation of the Connex Link is important, particularly with 11 speed links. If you install backwards the link will skip on the smallest cog. Installing on the lower length of chain, the fixed pin the outside link should go on the right end of the chain (nearest the chainrings), and the fixed pin of the inside link should go on the left end of the chain (nearest the cassette).
@callumsmith3383 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Sarah, ran into this issue just the other day, and then once I saw this comment I knew that’d be it most definitely, and it was!
@atomicdonky47917 жыл бұрын
I use a sram speed link on a shimano chain and haven't had any problems after taking the chain off the bike multiple times. I don't see the point in having a throw away link that's just ridiculous
@alexm10467 жыл бұрын
10sp & 11sp Sram Powerlinks are not designed to come apart again. Try to disconnect them with bare hands, good luck.
@aitorbleda82675 жыл бұрын
@@alexm1046 And using a tool?
@ollieb98753 жыл бұрын
The difference is the way the links stay together, that's what gets worn out. Sure reuse them a few times or until they give out but keep a spare on your bike just in case. More specifically, the generic quick links are relying on friction to stop them coming apart especially when back pedalling. The connex links rely on a labyrinth system, basically a curved path to follow in order to release which the chain can't get itself in a position to follow even back pedalling, at least not easily. No friction, longer life. 👍
@sevontiy4 жыл бұрын
You state that Connex link outlasts many chains and can last to about 50 000 kms. Aren't all links of the chain wear simultaneously? What makes this quick link last 10 times longer than all other links of chains? Thanks.
@muddy4587 жыл бұрын
l have wax my chain as per your videos. This has given me the smoothest and quietest chain ever. Lasts a good 300km easily. Bunnings warehouse here has both parafin oil an xylene. Thanks 😊
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Christopher Waters Sounds like you know what your doing Christopher.
@worddunlap6 жыл бұрын
Paraffin oil is mineral oil, often a by product of crude oil refining. paraffin wax, the thing people are trying to get by melting all their candles is available in a pure form often called Gulf Wax, paraffin wax, jar sealing wax or simply paraffin. Another lubrication scam...it's a product of the crude oil refining industry. It's just another cracked carbon on the fraction column. What is graphite?
@aitorbleda82675 жыл бұрын
Paraffin wax can be bought for cheap in the uk..
@crossvet7 жыл бұрын
I've cracked the waxing now. The temperature is critical and use a heat thermometer to get the wax just right at between 50 & 54 degrees. Wouldnt go back to oil based lubes. I also use graphite in a small tub of loose wax ( diluted with parafin) to rub onto a chain if it feels dry. I saw the Team DD mechanics doing this at the TdF and know why now.
@cjtathome4 жыл бұрын
Very Importaint - UK Liquid Parrafin or light liquid parrafin is ingestible and used medicinally and you get it from some chemists and horse shops. Parrafin oil /Lamp oil /Kerosene is not ingestible and are all the same in principal with minor different additives. You can get it from the range , b and q, and Esso gas stations in the plastic bins out front. All are from petroleum and will work
@iSOisoleucine7 жыл бұрын
Hi uhh, I got the idea of waxing my chain from your videos. For those of you who are in California or in another state that cannot get access to xylenes, you can use something called engine starting fluid. You can get these at autozone for 3-4$ for about 11 oz. Paint thinner kind of takes forever to dry, but engine start fluid contains heptane and ether, the former of which is typically the main carrier fluid of most brands' bike lubricant. I know this because I had to browse through sooo many MSDSs Heptane works because its vapor pressure is sufficient enough to evaporate off the chain and leave the wax/paraffin oil aggregate on the chain. Its also nonpolar enough to dissolve the wax. Note that when you do work with spraying out the ether, it is HIGHLY HIGHLY flammable, and tends to form explosive mixtures with air, often hugs the ground until it hits an ignition source. Source - am chemist
@bobseagull76004 жыл бұрын
Do you think Turpentine would work okay with paraffin wax?
@iSOisoleucine4 жыл бұрын
@@bobseagull7600 It'll probably work - but turpentine may not stick as well to the chain. If you do go for this, the 'mineral' variety of turpentine should work better. Although do be wary, all these solvents are significantly hazardous.
@piglegluckson91566 ай бұрын
Great way to hold your chain while Waxing: Steamer Basket, Premium Stainless Steel Vegetable Steamer Basket for Veggies & Seafood Cooking, Expandable Food Steaming Basket Fits for Various Size Pots & Pans (6.4" to 10") LAIHIFA
@michaeltowler26327 жыл бұрын
In Nqld It;s 27.3 c here at the moment night time and my Wax mixture is a solid not dead hard though . does this mean I don't have enough xylene in it? I'm sure I made a third .
@johnbrown15317 жыл бұрын
An other great video to compliment the others, one other well known American cyclist site suggests wax and bear grease! As we do not have many bears around Tyneside I substituted beef tallow! Certainly still a good result after 300km....
@tjnadah6 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahah awesome. i live in tyneside and fully corroborate that there are indeed not many bears in the area
@qsucvatz6 жыл бұрын
I used "lamp oil", which should be kerosene, for my "paraffin oil" alternative. Hopefully all alkanes, and it does soften the wax. No issues in the first 100 miles.
2 years old video with 17539 views - and still zero dislikes. Never seen such before!
@11111Rich4 жыл бұрын
Someone read your comment and looks like gave it a thumbs down. There is always one in a crowd.
@thijsgruwez37532 жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy a connex link but it seems only possible to install on a connex chain (which comes with the link already), I was hoping to try this with my current shimano 11 speed chain. most won't have connex chainsz? i haven't found too many good reviews on those connex chains yet... I have 11 speed ultegra. I bought a small slowcooker and now i am trying to figure out to find all the products. Paraffine and ptfe i have already but now I need to have xylene as well?
@JohnnieDoe1835 жыл бұрын
For those in the UK: I've not tried this yet, and no expert, but literally 2 minutes of googling found this important distinction: "Liquid paraffin, also known as paraffinum liquidum, is a very highly refined mineral oil used in cosmetics and for medical purposes. This is a UK definition and the term may have different uses in other countries. The cosmetic or medicinal liquid paraffin should not be confused with the paraffin used as a fuel" ...this seems to fit perfectly with OzCycle's (sorry, don't know your actual name!) reply to a comment below, saying to use the medical/cosmetic stuff, and that it should be odourless and tasteless (don't go drinking it!) Something like this should be what you need: www.chemistdirect.co.uk/liquid-paraffin/prd-nal?glCountry=GB&glCurrency=GBP&gclid=CjwKCAjw5dnmBRACEiwAmMYGOSBu0sdLuGVdGLxgBuCXAoU4DNYmEdw0Xxd9FSWHwWwiBPs9-l5FFhoCVdsQAvD_BwE ...it sounds like it's basically a stool softener for animals, so I guess it would make sense that it softens the wax too... Hopefully that helps someone. I look forward to trying this!
@RU4IRIgames4 жыл бұрын
Steve Beecheno How did you get on with it? Did you try it?
@JohnnieDoe1834 жыл бұрын
@@RU4IRIgames Yes I did try it in the end. I'll be honest, it's a bit of a ball ache compared to just slapping some normal lubricant on the chain, but it did feel nicer to ride imo. I think if you have a garage / somewhere where you can have your crockpot (or similar) set up and somewhere to hang it, the process would be much quicker and easier. I was trying to do it in my third storey rented flat at the time and it was a pain!
@RU4IRIgames4 жыл бұрын
Steve Beecheno thanks for the quick reply on your year old comment xD. I just been looking into this option for a runaround bike I’m building but haven’t seen many uk comments for it. If it goes well I may even transfer my good bike to this as I’m a bit of a magpie for shiny chains but also would be nice not to get that black oil everywhere if you touch your drivetrain
@JohnnieDoe1834 жыл бұрын
@@RU4IRIgames No worries, I don't comment often on videos so I don't exactly have lots to reply to! 😁 And I would definitely say try it and see if you like it. Your chain will still get road crap on it though so remember to wipe it down. It's all about getting the consistency of the wax just right
@RU4IRIgames4 жыл бұрын
Steve Beecheno if it doesn’t work out, it seems hot water removes it all anyways and can go back to oil based lube.
@randydrew14444 жыл бұрын
I just made my first batch of chain lube. I noticed it started going hard within minutes at the normal mixture 1/3 for each. I then did twice as much xylene. Still solidified. So I added more so it's 2/3 xylene 1/6 candle wax 1/6 mineral oil. I don't get what the heck your talking about. I'm not using pariffin oil as I said but it keeps solidifying no matter the amount of XYLENE I add.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
In lower temperatures more xylene is required. Otherwise...are you sure its "xylene" you are using?
@andysatch91507 жыл бұрын
For UK users, I used barbecue lighting fluid, worked perfect.
@ivanboesky15207 жыл бұрын
Andy Satch .
@johnrhodes33504 жыл бұрын
I've used barbecue lightning fluid as well 👍
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
I have new results of chain waxing and usage, just to remind, tested chain is shimano hg70 for 8 speed, usually can be used 1000 km and then is extended 3mm on 108 links of chain, lubricated with engine oil. Same type of chain is tested with wax every 80-110 km, not cleaned by any cleaning matter(gaseline, petrol, tinner..), and is not removed from bike. Procedure was : heat up by inductive heater upper portion of chain and put some wax on it and immediately clean it by clean cloth after that put again some wax on same portion of chain, rotate chain to next portion and repeat procedure. By this procedure chain has same extension of 0.5mm (compared to new same chain, hanged verticaly) on 500/1000/1500/2000km, So chain life was extended by 100% and still is for usage, and from now waxing interval will be changed to 120km(+0/-10km) and will be compared every 500km
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Thanx for taking the trouble to record your stats. By 'induction heating' Im assuming you mean putting a radiator next to the chain?
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
no, i bought on ebay inductive heater for 5-6usd, 12v, 100w, people buy it for play-heat iron thing to glow, I change coil to flat as on stove and bent it to u-shape so it wrap chain without chain cut, and heat it enought to melt wax stick. for 3-4 links is needed 5-6 seconds to heat up, i wax and clean it with wax all links in15 minutes, i did it on vacation too, i used cars battery , every 3. waxing with engine started because it drains 10amps
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
That sounds amazing! Could you send me some pics of how you use it to heat your chain or better still upload a video on your channel?
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
yes it seams that i should make some video, i will inform you when it will be avaliable, thanks
@makantahi37315 жыл бұрын
Here is video about usage inductive heater to wax bike chain:CHAIN WAXING THE EASIEST WAY
@waynejones22995 жыл бұрын
Great series on chain cleaning and waxing. I tried a paraffin and lamp oil mix on my bikes. Excellent results. For those in the US, I found everything in Walmart in the candle section. I bought three clear pillar candles and a bottle of lamp oil for about $13 USD. There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the name lamp oil vs. paraffin oil. I went with lamp oil after considerable research. They even have the same rice cooker however I have a Hide Glue pot and it worked just fine. Used it on my road and Cyclocross bikes. I raced my Cyclocross bike last weekend, the chain is spotless. Didn’t pick up n Any grime. Road bike as early results, 32 mile ride Sunday, spotless chain, unbelievably smooth shifting. Good job Oz.
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Thanx for relating your experiences Wayne.
@bobwalsh574 жыл бұрын
Thanks Wayne. Were you able to find the solvent in the US?
@waynejones22994 жыл бұрын
bobwalsh57 yes. Walmart has paraffin candles and lamp oil.
@paulschmidt22514 жыл бұрын
Paraffin lamp oil is readily available in the U.S. in Hardware stores. It is truly called “paraffin lamp oil.”
@Fozzie-Bear5 жыл бұрын
Good morning. I have converted the 1st bike to wax, few more to convert yet, but pretty happy with it now. But in Nov we are doing a tour Bangkok Phuket, 900 k 8 days, most likely it could rain, but it will not be possible to wax during the ride. And I don't think the lube with xylene in it, would be allowed in baggage on plane. Any suggestions, even a bought product? Many thanks, and again good work.
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Any wax based lube in a bottle will do the job Russ
@chrisparent4660 Жыл бұрын
In case anyone is interested 5 years later, I saw Xylene at Home Depot today in Massachusetts. It's in the paint/wallpaper dept.
@Fincher1237 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the Info Videos. I Just buy a new Chain and a Absolute Black Chainring. For this a want to use again great Chain Wax and byed Finish line Wax Krytech. For a test i did it on a old losen Bearing and let it sit overnigt. First it looks like spilling smelling water over , but at the morning a can defenetly feel the smooth resistance. now i knwo how Chainwax neds to be i my Lube. One Thing; i byed in a spray can Ceramic Spray. now i need to figure out hoiw to add it to the wax properly. =/ =)
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Finch Thank you for sharing your experience with waxing the bearing...sounds like it works good. I have not heard of ceramic spray,I must check that out. Cheers Finch
@UniqueDesigns417 жыл бұрын
As in Part1 of this set of videos, I wrote that my cheap way out was to get a 16 Oz. $3 bottle of Mineral Oil at a Pharmacy dept. of Walmart . This stuff is edible as it it said to be an intesinal lubricant. They describe it as 100% mineral oil, except for an inactive ingredient - d-alpha tocopherol (Vitamin E) as stabilizer. I thinned the paraffin candle wax as needed to a creamy paste, but still needs to be heated up to be applied to the deepest parts of a chain via a hot bath soak. I just tried to warm up one my chap squity bottles in the microwave just to see if it would work as it does in a hot water bath. The bottles need to have their lids open as gthe heated chemicals want to expand. Even with the cap open, these cheap bottles tried to deform. But, the 20 seconds on Warm low power actually separated the actone from having been absorbed into the wax mix. It was deforming too much so I never got the wax mix to be combined as a fully mixed liquid for application .
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+UniqueDesigns41 After heating,shake the bottle...it should then be a mixture.
@munkeng7 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm from Malaysia. I mixed mine with kerosene. It works.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Pariffin oil is on ebay/ liquid is $10. Its great with your 1:1 ratio wax mix in my rice cooker. Yay! PARIFFIN WAX GOES WITH PARIFFIN OIL, ITS THE ONLY WAY. CHANGE YOUR CHAIN WITH NO GLOVES, NO MESS. JUST WAS YOUR HANDS.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Pushyhog Paraffin oil is also used in the cosmetics industry so you can rub it onto dry skin to keep it supple. :)
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips. Next l will make a in the go bottle. Buy my chains still good. Can you try carb cleaner & denatured alcohol one time for cleaning?
@cspower72597 жыл бұрын
Used it on chain, rear mech, works great. Also started using wax on my cables and it seem ideal for fending off the water and dirt.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Chloe Powell Great to hear that Chloe. Thanx for the feedback.
@stevew1585 жыл бұрын
The sell connex as wipperman connex here, or at least thats what the ones i bought were called
@scottdevillers Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! A few observations from my experiences: Used Waxed chain for Leadville MTB 100. Seemed to wear off a little over 1/2 way through the race. I haven’t been cooling before removing - maybe will help Connect removable links don’t seem to be available for 12 speed drive trains Didn’t know about the paraffin oil - maybe you’ve refined your mix? You didn’t mention the Teflon powder in part one or two. Do you no longer recommend it? Thanks! Looks like Wipperman/connex has a complete 12sp chain with connex - I think might only be available in Germany right now?
@stevenleffanue Жыл бұрын
Yes Connex 11spd links are now available. For wetter conditions add paraffin oil to your wax mix , helps repel water. Additives such as ptfe extends the life cycle of the wax and reduces the chain wear.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Connex chain links on ebay $8 to 11$ free shipping. I use the sram links that come with my sram chain. If i need extra , just get one at LBS (local bike shop) or pic up 1 connex from ebay.
@scottdevillers Жыл бұрын
Also, I applied Squirt to a waxed chain that had about 200km on it since last waxing. Still quiet after another ~100+ km. What do you know about Squirt? Marketed as a wax + water emulsion
@stevenleffanue Жыл бұрын
Squirt is good as a lubricant but unfortunately still attracts dirt . The dirt will wear away at the metal of your chain thus drastically reducing its lifespan.
@helmuthj.zotter72723 жыл бұрын
Beeswax comes in two forms Yellow > natural more sticky and lower melting point White > bleached less sticky and more brittle and higher melting point. Isopropanol (Alcohol) binds any remaining water inside the rollers and removes it. No rust. The best wax to use is MICROCRYSTALLINE wax. A synthetic wax with very similar properties of Paraffin wax. Advantages over Paraffin: slightly lower melting point, adheres to any surface very well. Better lubrication and excellent rust inhibition. We use it in art restoration. Disadvantage: more expensive. XYLENE: Dimethylbenzene Density: 0,864g/ml Boiling point: 139C Flashpoint: 32C If you can't find Xylene, substitude it with Naphta/White spirit or paint thinner. NOT laquer thinner ! Do all the cooking outdoors on a electric stove. TOLUENE: Methylbenzene Very toxic !!! Do not use. In most countries it is banned. Density: 0,87 g/ccm Boiling point: 110C Flashpoint: 4C Is a aromatic Hydrocarbon solvent. Easily inflammable vapours, explosive mixtures with air. Heavier than air. Inflammability with hot surfaces, sparkles and open flames. Even static electricity can lead to ignition. Its vapours are narcotic. Irritates the eyes and skin.
@NoZenith2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@colinjava84472 жыл бұрын
To avoid splitting the chain every time, if there was a way to remove the chain from the FD cage, you could remove the chain without splitting it (Assuming you can remove the jockey wheels with hex key). On my FD cage (105 R7000), its riveted at the bottom, if this was replaced with a screw, then I could then take my entire chain off for waxing without ever splitting it. Is this a good idea?
@kristofpeiremans7367 жыл бұрын
The kmc chains work well as well. I loosened these powerlinks tens of times without any problems
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Kristof Peiremans Reuseable in 10 speed only. KMC... 10spd link (CL559R) is reuseable. 11spd link (CL555) and 12spd link (CL552) are not reuseable.
@royjones46982 жыл бұрын
I've been using your original waxed chain formula for 3 years now, I rotate 3 chains and they still show little signs of wear. I usually put a freshly waxed chain after the weekly bike clean daily because after a 100 miles the chain gets a bit noisy. I am using an old slow cooker coupled with a PID controller to keep the temperature down to 50 degrees C. It's a brilliant system.
@darrensmith55447 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve (+oz cycle), just a thought with the dirt issue. I can't remember if it was this video or part 1 where you created a suspension bucket for the chain to keep it out of the dirt at the bottom of the wax. I've been keeping the dirt out via a different method and this is purely an fyi. When the wax solidifies, the dirt has settled on the bottom. once the wax is totally cold and solid, I take it out of the rice cooker and use a cheese slicer to gently shave off the dirt at the bottom. Minimal wax is lost and the wax is returned back to a pristine white colour. It works well for me.... YMMV.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Darren Smith Yes,great suggestion Darren. The suspended sieve allows dirt to fall thru and the chain soaks in clean wax rather than at the bottom in its own dirt.
@hughsinclair84626 жыл бұрын
When you have finished waxing your chain and while the wax is still molten, brush round the bottom of your tub with a good magnet and much of it may be removed.
@shaunrogers22564 жыл бұрын
Shaving off the bottom would also remove the PTFE as that settles on the bottom too.
@FangPaw7 жыл бұрын
"Paraffin oil" doesn't appear to exist as such in the UK. As far as I can gather, it's a poorly-defined mixture of saturated hydrocarbons (ie alkanes), as is "mineral oil", "liquid paraffin" (used in vetinary medicine as a laxative) and "baby oil". So what is called "paraffin oil" in one country might be called "mineral oil" somewhere else. Lighter alkanes are known as "kerosene", "paraffin" or "lamp oil" in different parts of the world and are used as fuel for lamps, heating, cooking and jet engines. Waxes are higher alkanes. So if you don't live Down Under and can't buy "paraffin oil", I guess the best thing to try is mineral oil or liquid paraffin.
@andy-the-gardener7 жыл бұрын
it does. i found some on ebay. searched for lamp fuel and got a few results for what appears to be what hes talking about. its cheap enough, and so are candles, so nothing to lose really. even the heaters for melting wax are pretty cheap. if it doesnt work on your chain you can at least remove unsightly leg hairs with a nice hot wax treatment lol
@ssjktjessica66 жыл бұрын
What did you use in the end ,and did it work?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
+steve Use "paraffin oil" as used in medical industry and cosmetics.
@ssjktjessica66 жыл бұрын
oz cycle thanks oz will do
@SuperPa2 жыл бұрын
I have re-used the Shimano link many many times without issue for a couple of years, however it is a pain to unlink and re link even with tools. I have just purchased a connex chain and the link is so easy to unlink and relink without tools, bike maintenance just got easier.
@helliko7 жыл бұрын
I tried your exact method and lubed my chain and it runs incredibly smoothly, thank you. One issue I had is that my chain was skipping off my chain rings especially under load (standing) which I never had before. What could cause this? Too much wax left on the exterior of the chain? Shifts are very smooth but is it possible the chain is too lubricated??
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+e k Glad to hear waxing worked for you. Check the following....First check for a stiff link....will cause skipping of chain on cogs. 2/ check chain stretch...chain may be too worn and require replacing as well as rear cogset. 3/ Check front chainring teeth are not overly worn which will also cause skipping of the chain. 4/Check rear derailleur is straight and is passing your chain onto the rear cogs smoothly. Hope you find the issue
@helliko7 жыл бұрын
oz cycle, thanks for the reply and advice! Think I figured it out. Updated my small chainring back in June to 34 tooth and though my bike is a 9 speed and the chainring says 10 speed it seemed to work fine. I believe a combination of wear on the chainring and the wax making the chain slicker caused the drop. I was able to reproduce this at home when standing and bearing down hard on the pedals. Swapped out the ring for a 9 speed compatible one and so far I haven't been able to reproduce the problem. Thanks again for your help!
@anniepoo74894 жыл бұрын
Can you use Xylene by itself to strip of the manufacturers protective coating or previously lubricated bike chain? Rather than using degreaser?
@chadtague64294 жыл бұрын
Wax will be near impossible to use on a sealed bearing. Sealed bearings should be taken apart, packed with grease, and put back together.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Iam trying carburetor cleaner and denatured alcohol to clean my chain next time. Then your wax 1:1 in my rice cooker.
@markifi4 жыл бұрын
hey oz cycles. I reuse my 9 and 10 speed sram quick links all the time. No issues. Can't speak for Shimano, but I suspect they are reusable too.
@garymartin5577 жыл бұрын
some have been asking if you can use what in the UK is called paraffin (kerosene). well yes and no. I tried it used paraffin wax and paraffin but after about three uses in a slow cooker the characteristic paraffin smell was not present. the wax was harder, so working on the premise that the paraffin / kerosene has evaporated out of solution. next I will try liquid paraffin and paraffin wax.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Gary Martin Thanx for that input Gary. Good point that the kerosene can evaporate faster when heated.
@Forbidaxe6 жыл бұрын
B&Q sell a large jerry bottle of it for an OK price, has a yellow tinge to it.
@mikewellwood14126 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is what I bought. However, it definitely smells, and is, I think what the Americans call lamp oil, and in the ingredients list it says "kerosene". So I think, unfortunately, this is not the stuff that Oz Cycle really recommends, which in the UK is probably what they call "liquid paraffin". Quite a bit more expensive. On the other hand, you don't need all that much. And as Gary and Oz say above, it seems to be more volatile, and will evaporate off eventually. Of course, you could always add more to your paraffin wax, to get back to the right consistency.
@lilth5014 жыл бұрын
Regarding waxing it looks like for your average Rider will have to do this every 1 to 2 weeks
@mauricioguimaraes78492 жыл бұрын
Do you think that PFTE powder added in the wax, it will be a better lube?
@daviddorado56326 жыл бұрын
Common solvent, gasoline , acetone and ,ethanol don't work. I'll keep u posted if i find something else other than xylene
@vk14d5 жыл бұрын
I guess xylene is Para-Xylene/ Dimethylbenzene. Thats what i found in Google.
@diktrejsi86154 жыл бұрын
Paraffin oil is also used in wine production as sealant from air. Find your local winery to get some oil. Cheers:)
@itsm3th3b336 жыл бұрын
Why does the paraffin need to be liquid or creamy? Isn't part of the purpose to get away from dirt attracting oily lubes? I use Molten Speed Wax (Amazon). You melt it in slow cooker, soak clean chain in, remove and let it cool down. The chain gets stiff at first but after a few miles it's soft and clean. Rode through winter and no problems.
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
A hard wax doesnt move inside the link. After a while the pin is touching the bush with no lube between. The softer wax moves slowly into all spaces of the link as the chain moves,thus lubricating.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Inside twist grip shifters l use sram jonnisnot from ebay.
@ghidfg3 жыл бұрын
would ikea candle wax be okay? the description says: parrafin wax/plant based wax. doesnt say how much of each
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
No. Plant based waxes are often higher in oil content.
@someguy95206 жыл бұрын
i used lamp-oil. worked just fine, though i can't compare it to actual paraffin oil. consistency gets just as soft as you have shown in your video. it didn't even get oily. In the description it said paraffinium liquidium, so technically it has at the very least a very high percentage of paraffin oil 11dollars? in europe a chainlink from shimano for the 11spd chains costs right about 4€. or did ya mean aus$?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
+Calvin Pessl Yes AU$. Unfortunately the Shimano 11spd link is not reusable.
@norms60177 жыл бұрын
I found this site that describes paraffin oil. It says it is called Kerosene in Australia. Is this what you are using or something else? www wisegeek org/what-is-paraffin-oil.htm
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Norman Scott No thats not it Norman. Try looking for liquid paraffin...its often sold at pharmacists or veterinarian suppliers.
@jdudb4 жыл бұрын
There seems to be some confusion between these names of oils and paraffin oils. In the UK, paraffin, also known as heating oil, I believe is the same as kerosene and smells the same as aviation fuel for jets when burnt. It readily mixes with candle wax when the wax is warmed and causes the wax to go creamy. So is paraffin oil the same as paraffin but perhaps a little more refined for medicinal use?
@vangelo22524 жыл бұрын
I would like to know the answer to this too. Is paraffin oil the stuff you use in burners, or the stuff you give animals?
@ericderuffray56414 жыл бұрын
Hi. Your advice of waxing the chains sounds great to me. My understanding is that the xylene is very volatile and will evaporate from the chain. Therefore, I guess it does evaporate from the rice cooker even faster as it is very warm. So is it worth using xylene, which will remain only the 1st time in the cooker? Or should you add xylene every time?
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Xylene isn't used in the hot wax method Eric
@biketoshi53487 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you help and say more about the right texture for the mix? I used almost 1:1, little bit less parafine oil. But not sure if it is not too creamy already. Sticks very well to the knife though.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Thorsten Hofmann If you see bits of wax flaking off your chain when you first pedal it on the bike,the wax is too hard. Simply add more paraffin oil to the mix and put the chain back in the bath. If the wax is too soft,it will be obvious on the knife test. Ideal consistency is like a hard cream. Hope that helps Thorsten.
@martijncobelens96303 жыл бұрын
Lampoil seems to turn black like charcoal. I’m not sure is its harmful to the chain. It looks like it’s ok but your wax turns black
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Are you using just paraffin wax mixed with ptfe powder?
@martijncobelens96303 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue combination of paraffine wax ptfe and lampoil. But without the ptfe it was the same effect
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like there is still some old lube inside the chain links contaminating the wax
@martijncobelens96303 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so because it starts to turn black right after heating a new batch. Anyway I’m now going to buy a few bottles of paraffine oil.
@lc25716 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but I am hoping you still read and reply to old videos. I have a question regarding using an ultrasonic cleaner full of the wax mix instead of water, would this work?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
+Liam Cottrell Yes,if the ultrasonic device also heats the wax to over 53degrees Liam. Do not use xylene in the mix tho.
@cyberstasz73287 жыл бұрын
Hi Oz! Great videos, keep 'em coming! I'm unsure if I have the correct viscosity/ratio of oil to wax. Is there a quantitative measurement to use? Being unsure, I let the wax/oil mixture cool and the chain is encased inside for now.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+cyber stasz Glad you like the vids :) . Its approximately 1:1 but always test it before using. I use a butter knife...dip it in the wax then cool it to room temperature. The wax should be like a hard cream. Too hard and the wax will flake off your chain.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
Accetone is in california. Probably find zylene at house paint store.
@shaunrogers22564 жыл бұрын
Nail polish remover.
@Pushyhog7 жыл бұрын
130 degrees F on my rice cooker, thanks.
@grahamcoyne285 жыл бұрын
Xylene in UK is paint thinner use with car paint when spraying cars
@sergeykopylov6526 жыл бұрын
Paraffin oil = johnson's baby oil (kids goods store - sold everywhere) or any similar product
@stevecooper35 жыл бұрын
My 11 Speed Connex link skips on only my 11 tooth cassette, running full campy drive train. Any one else experience this? This was with a new chain, all other rear cassette teeth are fine. I just put on another new chain and its the same issue.
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
If link isnt installed right way around it will skip on cogs. So just swap links to opposite sides
@stevecooper35 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'll try that.@@stevenleffanue
@rterrelljones4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Oz. Waxed my chain, and my wife's, probably 7x each now. Never going back to "standard" lubes. Question - Would it be OK if I skipped waxing the master link? It's such a pain to get the master connected with wax in places you don't want it. Would be much easier if I could skip waxing that link, but am concerned no wax will damage the link and thus defeat the purpose.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Thats ok, I dont wax my links very often.
@rterrelljones4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue Actually, I found the solution just today. When I pull the coat hanger (and thus chain) out of the wax, while the wax is still hot, I wipe off the excess wax from the master links, and each adjacent link. Now I'm able to expand the master links on the first attempt! Nice.
@b_love41307 жыл бұрын
Love your DIYs! Do you have one on servicing RD including cleaning method and lubrication (including what to use for lube) of pivot points and jockey wheels.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Brian Lovely Glad you like the DIYs Brian. Rear derailleurs are fairly self sufficient except for the jockey wheels and cable. I will keep your suggestion in mind tho. Cheers Brian
@charlestaylor68986 жыл бұрын
What chains are you guys using? I use 11spd sram with a power link but note they are one time use only. I like the idea of waxing in a hot bath, but having to replace with a new link every week is mighty expensive. Cheaper to replace the chain more frequently. Thoughts?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
Wipperman connex link is the only way to go....they last 50,000km! Fits all brand chains to.
@charlestaylor68986 жыл бұрын
oz cycle Thanks for the reply. 50000 km! Unreal. I'll get some. Do you rate wipperman chains themselves?
@nukespeargaming81185 жыл бұрын
Hello, I just have a question aboit paraffin oil, is it the same as kerosene? I wanna know because kerosene is much more available here in our country and much cheaper. Any alternatives for xylene? Because xylene is not available here as well.
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Paraffin oil used in cosmetics and medicine. Toulene,mineral spirits,white spirits or paint thinner is like xylene
@johnrhodes33504 жыл бұрын
Kerosene is ok
@irfanshahab60253 жыл бұрын
If i let my sprocket dry, how i can prevent it from rust?
@stevenleffanue3 жыл бұрын
It has an anodized coating , it want rust
@daviddorado56327 жыл бұрын
one more thing, as far as I read, Xylene is just a solvent used to peel paint. Can common solvent be used? It evaporates very quickly too, so it may work just as well,....
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+DAVID DORADO If it disolves wax then it should be fine David.
@daviddorado56326 жыл бұрын
oz cycle my aussie friend, common solvent doesn't work. I'll try something else. The other procedure of submergeing chain in wax and paraffin works great, so thanks a lot
@MarkZanker7 жыл бұрын
Awesome Q and A!
@johnrhodes33504 жыл бұрын
I washed the whole rear derailleur in hot Paraffin oil to clean it. Then dipped in hot wax. Works ok on my old Trek hybrid. Might clog up your fancy Dura Ace equipment.
@garygratzer96704 жыл бұрын
Hey Oz. Is there a in between maintenance/liquid wax I can use in between chain off melted wax treatment. Something that plays well with the hot wax. Squirt, Finishline etc.
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
As long as the lube is paraffin wax based it will be fine Gary. It's the mixing of differing lubes that's causes problems.
@garygratzer96704 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@scotth51327 жыл бұрын
Paraffin oil is not a term used by hardware stores in the USA. Online I found Winelight Ultra Pure Paraffin Lamp Oil. Is that the correct product?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Scott H Not sure Scott. Give it a go...try a small mix first and if it turns out a non-oily cream then it will be ok.
@shaunrogers22564 жыл бұрын
Pure paraffin lamp oil is what i use.
@Yosser707 жыл бұрын
What about adding graphite or teflon powder to the mix, could that makes it even better?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Dave Hughes Very slight improvement but leaves grey marks on everything your chain,cogs a chainrings touch.
@tjnadah6 жыл бұрын
Hi again Oz. You've made me a bit of an alchemist sorting all this waxing! Just wondering if you've noticed a difference in the type of paraffin wax used? You've been using pillar wax i presume since you just take those candles and break them. have you tried a container wax and is it any different. i get the feeling it is softer? so may be more malleable on the chain and may need less paraffin oil? or am i overthinking it. when ordering the wax pellets these are the options i'm presented with as well so just checking? thanks
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
Container wax is pre-blended (probarbly using an oil). I have not tried it but yes you can probably use it without mixing paraffin oil. It is more expensive than candle wax,so want save you any money that way. If it is easier for you to use container wax, go for it.
@tjnadah6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks
@JoshGt874 жыл бұрын
How do you know when the wax is too contaminated to reuse?
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
When it starts to go grey
@dh73146 жыл бұрын
My chain did 100 miles on an indoor trainer, so totally dry conditions before it started creaking. What am I getting wrong with my waxing?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
+David Harper Could be a number of things David but most common is the wax not getting INSIDE the pins and rollers. Make sure the chain bathes in the wax for quite some time so no air bubbles come out when moving the chain in the bath.
@dh73146 жыл бұрын
oz cycle I'll try again. I left it for a while, I'm determined to make this work.
@edgarcastillo70052 жыл бұрын
I only use paraffin wax no additives. Is it still the same?
@stevenleffanue2 жыл бұрын
Will only last 100km then you need to rewax. Also it want have the protective qualities to make your chain last longer
@edgarcastillo70052 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue can i reuse the left over wax even if it has some dirt residue residing in the bottom?
@stevenleffanue2 жыл бұрын
Sure can....once cooled you can cut off the base of the wax block and you have good wax. You will need to add more ptfe tho.
@edgarcastillo70052 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue thankyou i can now enjoy riding with less maintenance!
@chiragjeram6 жыл бұрын
hello oz cycle sir, this is great and most required video. i would like to know can we use scooter oil as lubricant. thank you
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Cherag I dont know anything about scooter oil. Most liquid lubricants will be fine for a bicycle chain tho.
@italialool4 жыл бұрын
How do I clean gear cycle?
@floydco35037 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for the wax to turn black after several rides? I'm just want to make sure I got it right. Thanks
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Floyd Co It can discolour but being black indicates a lot of contamination Floyd. I suggest a thorough clean then rewax...it should turn a slight grey colour only when a rewax is required. The chain should be absolutely clean everytime before putting in wax.
@trabink26 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to filter the wax/oil mixture? I do use a strainer, but like to filter the mixture, no reason to throw it out now. Anyone tried a coffee filter or is there another way? Thx. By the way, I love using wax for my chain, I'm often riding close to the beach in the bike path, I have no longer problems with sand in my chain. Just a great improvement, so happy, thx for explaining!
@abhijitbuchake7 жыл бұрын
Can I use Kerosene (paraffin) if I don't get Xylene?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Abhijit Buchake Kerosene is different in each country. Do a test sample Abhijit. If the mixture is non-oily it should be fine.
@nkcad63616 жыл бұрын
Hi Oz, really thanks for your valuable tutorial. I am preparing to have my chains bath in wax as you taught. May I ask whether there will be any advantage, or not, on bathing the cassettes as well in wax?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
No advantage at all...leave the cassette dry and clean.
@nkcad63616 жыл бұрын
Really thanks a lot.
@kseger19707 жыл бұрын
Do you know if a 10-speed Connex link be used on an 11-speed drivetrain/chain?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Khris Seger No,use the 11dpd connex link. It is more expensive than 10spd but if you buy a connex chain it comes with a link.
@kseger19707 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jameslindberg12734 жыл бұрын
Would it help (or hurt) to wax the rear cassette? Possibly help keep it cleaner?
@stevenleffanue4 жыл бұрын
Not necessary in most conditions. If in constant wet,then yes.
@jameslindberg12734 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue Thanks! I was also wondering if instead of finishing a chain cleaning with methylated spirits (Denatured Alch for us US guys) would methanol be ok to finish with? Both are very similar in composition (readily used for alcohol stoves), just wondering?
@plantbasedpedalling81037 жыл бұрын
Is a wax okay used in wet weather like the British winter, if so how often would you need to re wax the chain ? Thanks
@Marclee787 жыл бұрын
PlantBasedPedalling beat me to it I was going to ask same thing!
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+PlantBasedPedalling Absolutely. Water has very little effect on the wax but its the dirt that the water transports to your chain that matters. So when you feel the chain needs relube put it straight in the hot wax...use a sieve as suggested so the dirt falls out of the chain.
@RickRubinesque5 жыл бұрын
*less viscose.
@beastyboy15237 жыл бұрын
on your say so I wax my chains now wouldn't go back to oil happy days ... just redone mine today 😁
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+James bird Great to hear James
@eduforonda7 жыл бұрын
Hi. I tried this wax method but I dont think I'm getting the consistency right. I used wax from candles and paraffin oil (though it's only 99% coz it has coloring in it). Mix was about 60 candle 40 oil. I let it cooldown to maybe less than 50degC as mine was messy all over when I wiped the sides off. And when I added into the drivetrain, bits are falling off everywhere. First few days was great, used it while strolling around the neighborhood with my 1yo. But I tried to test it for a more realistic ride and I feel the wax has dried out on me as the my shifting is not silent anymore - it's loud and clatters indicating no more lube. Can you please send an image of the chain just after waxing and wiping off the excess. I'm using 9spd KMC chain if that helps.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Edu Foronda Sounds like you will need to add a bit more paraffin oil. Remove the chain from wax at between 50-54deg C....allow it to sit for 5-10mins to cool a bit,then gently wipe off excess from outside of the chain with a clean rag. Let me know how you go Edu? Cheers...Steven
@eduforonda7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply. I actually tried 1:1 ratio initially. But when testing, it seemed too soft compared to the one shown in your video. I'll try and re-do and keep you posted. Love your channel btw! Cheers!
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Edu Foronda ok. The idea is to get maximum amount of wax left inside the chain with minimum on the outside. Once you get the hang of it youl be fine.
@eduforonda7 жыл бұрын
Update: I added more paraffin oil to the mix and re-waxed my chain. Took the chain out of the mix when it starts to get cloudy and wiped the excess off. Tested this to a new chain too and all seems to be working fine. Now to find out how long it will last... I'm having a hard time looking for alternatives to xylene. And it's kind of a pain to remove and re-wax the chain everytime (maybe because I'm using KMC missing link), so I'm looking for a quicker alternative to the xylene paraffin mix. What are your thoughts on Squirt lube?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Edu Foronda 1/ Use a Connex link only. 2/ Use the hot wax method,no need to use xylene. These 2 things will make lubing your chain so much easier Edu.
@slipinn7 жыл бұрын
can you use bees wax instead of paraffin?
@danielhand29817 жыл бұрын
definitely not bees wax by its nature is tacky.
@lawrenceng76266 жыл бұрын
What about Pariffin Lamp Oil? Is that the same as Pariffin Oil?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
Sorry Lawrence,no. The right Paraffin oil is used in the cosmetic and pharmaceutical industry.
@hikeride75205 жыл бұрын
See why I am confused? In the video, you say you have a bottle of lamp oil, and your answers to this person, is that they need the paraffin oil that is used in cosmetic and pharmacutical industry. I'm want to try the hot wax bath, but need clarification about Paraffin Oil, which here is Lamp Oil, and I am having a heck of a time trying to find cosmetic grade Paraffin Oil, or Liquid Paraffin
@cebruthius5 жыл бұрын
@@hikeride7520 I tried the lamp oil, and it works, but I figure it's not as good for health as cosmetic grade oil. Breathing the fumes can't be good. I'll try cosmetic grade next...
@woshigepro27 жыл бұрын
I used baby oil. It sticks to the chain but it attract dirt and dust. I am going to find paraffin oil.
@JissaJojan7 жыл бұрын
Great channnel!!And can I use vaseline with xylene?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Jissa Jojan Dont think they will mix well Jissa.
@JissaJojan7 жыл бұрын
OK,Thanks
@torstencx13187 жыл бұрын
After fine tuning my brew I'm quite happy with the first rides. I melted down some tea lights I already had and added some cheapo in germany so called "Lampoil" which is just another name for a thin hydrocarbon oil and does the job. But can anyone share some experience with cold temperatures (let's say around 0°C)? Thanks a lot! ... and btw, nice channel, I like it!
@dereknz1007 жыл бұрын
+147_III my 1.5hr pre breakfast ride this morning temp got down to -2°C and the drive train was running smooth with the wax/oil mix. The links are stiffer than at warmer temperature. I'm not using candle wax, the paraffin wax I am using is from a beekeeper supplier its less refined with approx 0.3% oil content and no added ingredients www.ceracell.co.nz/shop/Hive+Component/Paraffin+wax/-PAR7550-5KG/x_sku/PAR7550-5KG.html Oil I am using is a lamp oil which is pure refined paraffin oil, some other lamp oils I have looked at are a blend (not 100% paraffin oil) firelight.co.nz/collections/lamp-oil I'm not doing the 1:1 wax/oil mix as have cut back on the oil, living in a coastal area found I pick up less fine sand particles on the chain with the lube being more solid state. I am rotating three chains and use a ultasonic cleaner to clean the chains. I have tried re-dipping the chains in wax bath without using the cleaner but in my location where I ride the wax/oil bath quickly goes dark coloured which I think is mainly the oxidation from the chain riding in wet conditions, the salt air and sandy tracks I ride on.
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+Derek Adair In those wet and dirty conditions Derek, it would be good to keep the oil content as low as possible so attracting as little dirt as possible. Id stiil recommend the candle wax with 'paraffin oil' or 'liquid paraffin' if you can get those in your area.
@dereknz1007 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm still using paraffin oil in with the wax, it's roughly between 2:1 and 3:1 at the moment as I just kept adding wax till I was happy with the result I was getting in wet muddy conditions. When it less wet over summer I will increase the oil ratio closer to the amount of the wax. With the sub zero morning rides I'm doing now I may end up add a bit more oil to the mix. I pour wax/oil lube back into ice cream containers when I finished lubing so can have a number of different batches.
@torstencx13187 жыл бұрын
My mixture is apx 1:1 and it seems to work well for the moment (summer temperatures > 20°C). After a few rides the drivetrail is still well lubed and shiny as a T-800. I may have to play around a bit when temperatures go down again that it doesn't flake off (at least that my worry). ... The Wax block is definately what I will go for next time as melting tea lights was a mess :-)
@oreosaysb006 жыл бұрын
Are connex chains better than Shimano chains?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
They select gears the same but have a longer lifespan. Connex also has the best removable link.
@oreosaysb006 жыл бұрын
oz cycle Do you use a standard chain wear indicator tool to check chain wear on those chains?
@stevenleffanue6 жыл бұрын
Yes but with a .5mm increment. I will be doing a vid on that that soon.
@daviddorado56327 жыл бұрын
Any attempt to make tubeless sealant successfully?
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+DAVID DORADO Good suggestion David....will put that on my list. When I was racing,some of us trained on tubulars. When punctured in emergency we put milk in the tubs. The milk kurdled and plugged up rhe puncture so could ar least get you home :)
@daviddorado56327 жыл бұрын
I heard it is a latex based compound. Quite creative things you do on this channel. Regards from Spain
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+DAVID DORADO Ok,yes that makes sense...similar to the product called " Slime".
@vk14d5 жыл бұрын
Can i use mineral oil instead of paraffin oil as mineral oil is easily available
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Sorry,no. Mineral oil will make the wax slimy and messy. Paraffin oil is the liquid form of paraffin wax and simply softens the wax.
@vk14d5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue ok... actually someone told me that he uses only mineral on chain for lubrication so i thought, it can also help in making this wax Lubricant rather than paraffin oil.
@stevenleffanue5 жыл бұрын
Yeh,you can use mineral oil as a chain lube by itself but it flings off and wears thin very quickly. To do the wax properly you need the paraffin oil....sold by pharmacists, veterinarian and beauty suppliers
@vk14d5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenleffanue thanks for your response.
@davekent90197 жыл бұрын
how would u clean old wax off to replace with new
@Kennethwolfgang7 жыл бұрын
kent dave just pee on the chain to rinse the wax off
@stevenleffanue7 жыл бұрын
+kent dave No need to Kent. Just put chain in the hot wax bath again and any dirt falls to bottom of the pot as chain is relubed.
@DaveKahn7 жыл бұрын
If the chain seems dirty enough that you'd worry about contaminating your wax bath, I'd suggest a quick clean with a baby wipe then drying it with a paper kitchen towel. As long as you still have wax in the rollers there should be no dirt inside there.