Way cleared for development at demolished Cupertino shopping center

The city of Cupertino reached an agreement which allows a long-delayed housing project to proceed at the site of the old Vallco shopping mall. Wilson Walker reports (7-12-24)
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[@49819d]

Vallco mall was a neat place because it had a bridge over Wolfe.

[@vindiesel1469]

@@49819d I remember when it was built...there was nothing else like it and it was beyond cool. As a teen it was a place to go to see, and be seen.

[@LuckyDuckie115]

why are we still building office space? Even Cupertino has way too many empty commercial buildings.

[@fandyllic1975]

Good to see, but 4 years to finish is overly optimistic… 5 years is more realistic seeing the comparable project in downtown Sunnyvale which is about half the size and will likely take 3.5 years to finish and they’ve usually been working on it 6 days a week for pretty much the whole time.

[@roughneckjihad1003]

Man I used to hang out hard at Vallco. It was the place to be in the late 80s. Ice skating watching videos on the big screen in the arcade man I’m old

[@osmanhossain676]

I always want more grocery store retails, shopping centers and malls and I always love more grocery store retails, shopping centers and malls.❤

[@hynnow18]

Take a shot every time he says “Cup-ertino” instead of “Coop-ertino” 😅

[@bbq8282]

Wolfe road exit will be unbearable 😂

[@SuburbaniteUrbanite]

Out with the old in with the new. It had its time and now its time for something new.

[@vindiesel1469]

"Almost a third of the homes are affordable..." YEA RIGHT.

[@LChiuy]

The Federal Government definition on affordable: "Housing is defined as affordable if it costs no more than 30% of one’s income" In other words, the developer is going to find super high income potential tenant so it'll be no more than 30% of their $300,000 salary.

[@JoeRogansGutBiome]

The low income residents pay only 30% of their total income for the rent. Talk to someone who lives in these developments, and you will see. I know people are not happy with these, but at least something is better than nothing. CA mandates these all new developments to have 20% of these be low income unita. If they dont they have to pay even more to the city for the city to pay a developer to build these. SF pays pitsburg antioch and other cities to develop these and move their people out there.

[@fandyllic1975]

@@JoeRogansGutBiome most Bay Area cities have failed to meet affordable housing goals for decades and some are actively fighting against it while being the worst offenders.

[@mrcoolluke7850]

Ya I know 6000 a month right

[@chrisaycock5965]

@@fandyllic1975 always find it ironic that our state is 'liberal' but the most conservative on the planet when it comes to housing.

[@billmoran3219]

Yeah how are all these new residents supposed to get around , VTA is a joke . Most of the people who can afford a Cupertino address own and drive cars and wouldn’t be caught dead on mass transit, speaking of transit where are they going to park these cars, because if you tour any mass housing projects in San Jose just look at the streets full of parked cars.

[@Mrcrazyguy303]

Only a third are affordable? I mean I know there’s a lot of rich people, especially with it being so close to Apple headquarters but for every rich person there’s a janitor, a barista, an auto mechanic, a fast food worker, a grocery store clerk, a gas station attendant, etc. Sure it’s nice to be close to work, but when you can’t afford a car, you have to be close to work. Plus, a lot of people have those types of jobs work from home two or three days out of the week.

[@fandyllic1975]

In the past, 20% affordable housing was lucky. I will believe 30%+ affordable housing when I see it… Silicon Valley developers regularly renege on their affordable housing promises.

[@empirestate8791]

How do you expect the developers to pay for more affordable units? They're just a business - they need to make a profit too.

[@fandyllic1975]

@@empirestate8791 this is a false assertion that assumes affordable units are not profitable.

[@dfirth224]

The opposition is all about keeping out the undesirable poor people.

[@f-86zoomer37]

bay area nimbys are the literal worst. almost worse than trumpists

[@steveurbach3093]

You mean those that don't make 7 figures a year? Valco had a McD's

[@bombloader8358]

@@f-86zoomer37nimbys? …lol, trumpists

[@f-86zoomer37]

@@bombloader8358 I’m sure every trumpist is a nimby, but trumpists have zero political power here in the bay area. It’s older rich white democrats. I’m saying this as a leftist myself.

[@veryslyfox]

you're the one they're trying to keep out

[@markdsm-5157]

the public "we need more housing!" people that already own homes: "not in my backyard!".

[@RacerX1971]

What's affordable? Affordable to Apple emplyees?

[@mrcoolluke7850]

There ate no apple employees or are there

[@DanielOrtegoUSA]

She actually used ‘affordable and Cupertino in the same sentence? 😂

[@hynnow18]

It’s so disappointing that the 2014 plan wasn’t approved by voters. We could’ve had a space-efficient rooftop park with less AC/heating needed, water capturing, and no pests (they’re not used to being at that altitude). Now the open space is all at ground level so any buildings have to be taller

[@markmatulewicz8970]

Sandhill couldn't even complete the Sunnyvale project which was taken away from them in court and you think they were going to make that dream rooftop Park actually possible

[@osmanhossain676]

Yes and yeah more grocery store retails, shopping centers and malls.😮

[@PigRipperLAW]

Can we get some more entertainment places? There is nothing but shopping and food around here.

[@uUjx1]

Dinner menu! ❤❤❤

[@celebrityrog]

To be honest, the loss of Valco is worse than housing being built. When they say “affordable” they mean “market price” but less than “speculative price” which is also to say that there is no affordable housing units that will be offered that ACTUAL LOW INCOME people can afford. To be honest, a mall like Santana Row would be better.

[@osmanhossain676]

Yes 100%.😮

[@alwash9323]

I'm sorry I used to live in Sunnyvale over the ramp from Cupertino nothing's affordable in Cupertino so please stop saying affordable housing if you mean 1.2 1.3 affordable then just say that's what it is but nothing's affordable in that area

[@jeffmishler1028]

By affordable, they mean subsidized so lower income people can afford it.

[@ciello___8307]

@@jeffmishler1028not lower income, normal people who arent rich as hell

[@edrosiak]

A back room deal. Not voter supported. This is only going to help developers and those politicians that forced it through. Best to check their pockets too.

[@ferenchorvath5478]

Hmm 🤔 I don’t think the community is going to stand for the low income apartments and what it would bring

[@andytang04]

Nimby always stopping things

[@11Ender11]

The NIMBY groups in Cupertino are some of the worst around. Lower home inventory keeps their home prices higher….so naturally they wanna keep development to a minimum. San Jose can’t keep taking the brunt of home development. Surrounding cities are gonna need to step up their game….finally.

[@chuckxu5910]

That’s a trillion dollar investment

[@mrcoolluke7850]

Housing for whom the rich snd famous and contustction 200million

[@roxstix]

"Affordable housing" aka crime will increase

[@litchips]

Cupertino NIMBYs are the worst.

[@brianp5205]

Affordable housing = taxpayers pay the difference between what the renter pays and the actual rental cost.

[@Jnthncrrll]

OH YOU SHUT UP, BRIAN THE TRUMPSTER FREAK!!!!!

[@lafrantzoneal9517]

Until the homeless move in and the Oakland boys find out 😅

[@mikeydude750]

It's absolutely ludicruous how many hoops developers have to jump through. We need to get rid of zoning except for extreme cases (no toxic waste next to residential), and we need to ban lawsuits.

[@Dr_KW]

What hoops? Developers just pay people off anyways

[@mikeydude750]

@@Dr_KW Yeah they shouldn't have to pay people off they should just be allowed to build

[@trer24]

While I don't disagree, how would you ban the lawsuits? These neighbors were willing to take this fight this far...they are most definitely highly funded and willing to go as far as necessary. Perhaps better education to these neighbors for how this is a benefit to them would be a better alternative?

[@markmatulewicz8970]

​@trer24 as one of those neighbors it's not going to be a benefit. I live right near there and don't want the traffic. The high school there is already overcrowded. I will be able to see those Towers from my backyard and they will be able to see into my backyard. The voters that actually pay taxes in Cupertino voted no on this project for a reason

[@mikeydude750]

@@markmatulewicz8970 Better not see you complaining about homeless people because your attitude is what causes them You want your home valuations because of a booming economy? Suck it up because that means people are attracted to move here for work then