Joel Torgeson & Alyssa Glanville - 1st place Champions Jack&Jill Finals

[@joeltorgeson8401]

Quick note on this dance for posterity and to provide some context: Based on the judges' marks we were actually scored in 2nd place, but there was lift at the end of the 1st place dance that, as it turned out, was against the competition's rules, leading to a 1-place drop as a penalty. I'm just letting people know in case they watch that dance and this one and think 'Huh, I would have scored that differently.' - They did score it differently! 😃

[@michaelgoetze8531]

Fortunately that had no influence whatsoever on which follower got 1st place.

[@joeltorgeson8401]

Ahahaha, true enough, Alyssa won either way!@@michaelgoetze8531

[@SteveFitz]

Joels footwork is almost as perfect as his hair. Such an awesome dance ❤❤❤❤❤

[@janiceouma667]

Alyssa is one of my favourite dancers, so much energy, go girl!

[@nenapeltin1180]

I have watched this video about 20 times. Both Alyssa and Joel are FANTASTIC dancers, and put together, they are even better! SO delightful to watch. Thank you for the terrific entertainment!

[@mensabs]

Dancing with Joel must be a wonderful experience!

[@lauradiniz6135]

Good chemistry! ❤

[@DAmicoDanceHouston]

Dayuuum!! For real. Two of the best two song Jack and Jills I’ve seen put together, Ever! 🙌🙌 Congrats!!

[@pennywebb867]

I love Sean and Alyssa together. They are really doing some awesome and interesting dancing.. But i must confess,, there was a period of time when I really wanted these 2 to partner. This was a delight to watch.

[@marktunleytackletv]

Wow, just wow x

[@allisterfong4867]

👏👏👏🔥💜🙏

[@cyclewisecaitlin]

So when partners get matched at random are they totally improving the whole time?

[@wcs]

Totally! They don't know the partner nor the song :)

[@cyclewisecaitlin]

@@wcs That is unbelievable! Jaw on the floor.

[@kakefisk]

Is the music off beat?

[@joeltorgeson8401]

Short Answer: Nah, I'm probably just dancing off beat! 😅 The other thing it could be is that sometimes when the music gets direct-recorded from the sound board (as may be the case here, based on how Ben's voice on the mic is picking up) it is /fractionally/ ahead of what you would be used to seeing from a dance where the microphone on the camera is picking up everything. Long(er) Answer: In other words, when we dance in front of people, the music comes from the speakers behind us at the speed of sound, hits us, we have time to react, and then the music hits the audience/camera as our movements travel at the speed of light to the audience/camera. This slight delay between when the music is played from the speakers and when it hits the camera microphone essentially gives us a little time to react and be musical. When you record the sound directly off the soundboard into the camera, it travels at the speed of light, and the music ends up getting to the camera a few milliseconds before the dancers have had a chance to react to it and then dance to it. This is a very subtle detail that most people don't overtly notice, but if you've worked on audio/video projects before you start to get a feel for it. I'd love if the audio track on this particular dance had been bumped a few milliseconds back, so that there was natural breath between when something is happening visually and sonically. Can you tell I've thought too much about this before? 😂😅 Hope that helps!

[@kakefisk]

@@joeltorgeson8401 Thank you so much for such a detailed answer!. I was leaning towards that maybe during editing they added the song on top of the video instead of using the song that was actually played during the dance, which unless layered perfectly could create an opening for delay(?) But glad to see someone else having a tendency to overthink WCS-related matters too!:D Beautiful performance.

[@joeltorgeson8401]

@@kakefisk Haha, no problem! Yes, it can also be the case that during editing the song is slightly before or ahead of where the original song would have been if you're piping it in from a file, that also definitely occurs. From all the music projects I shot in ~2019 I just know that if the speaker that we're playing music from is behind the camera, it always looks really wonky in editing until I adjust the song a few milliseconds to line up with what it would sound like if the music was coming from behind the dancers. Means you have to have a very subtle eye when editing. :)

[@wcs]

I'll check it. It had a 80ms delay on the Livestream, due to the wireless transmitter but should be good here. I'll check. The Congress hall in Munich is really large and is a real echo chamber, so this could be a reason too.

[@wcs]

I'm recording 3 times. At the Camera, at the mixer and the Livestream. Every 9feet the couple is away gives a delay of 1ms I calc in.

[@sergei1780]

I am so thankful you for your video ! I liked very much !Bravo !