WE Airsoft Makarov PMM Review: A Mid-Mortem Case Study

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Explosive Enterprises

Explosive Enterprises

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@mercAltiar
@mercAltiar 8 ай бұрын
Love the fact you bring up serviceability. The ability to get spare parts for airsoft replicas is something I feel most reviewers fail to mention.
@properrrprop2653
@properrrprop2653 8 ай бұрын
We don't get any them at all in russia 💀
@sandmanlxv
@sandmanlxv 8 ай бұрын
“Sufficiently accurate for a shootout in a phone booth” 😂
@dawidlijewski5105
@dawidlijewski5105 8 ай бұрын
Just like real thing
@boni_1337
@boni_1337 8 ай бұрын
​@@dawidlijewski5105No, the real one is not bad and it's pretty accurate. Have you even shot one?
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 7 ай бұрын
@@boni_1337 It's hard to say that this statement is untrue, considering high skill level PM requires from the shooter to be accurate, but it does have potential
@boni_1337
@boni_1337 7 ай бұрын
@@Schrodingers_kid Of course it isn't the best but considering how old this model is it's good
@ChokStik
@ChokStik 8 ай бұрын
Wanted to buy recently, until i saw the VFC PPKs coming out soon
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
👀
@kakuwave
@kakuwave 8 ай бұрын
"soon" was stated 2 years ago
@Andre_Thomasson
@Andre_Thomasson 8 ай бұрын
oh yeahh
@KumiTheFolf
@KumiTheFolf 8 ай бұрын
heh, having one Pre Ordered for months now, cant wait to get them here in germany
@WaLdgeiSt_
@WaLdgeiSt_ 8 ай бұрын
@@KumiTheFolf Wo hast du vorbestellt?
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 8 ай бұрын
I think the review is quite fair, but they can become the best airsoft sidearms ever with some work. We've been using these as the official gun for our team, so let me chime in with some experience from 5+ years on a dozen of these guns: - Replace the inner barrel with a RA-tech 6.01 x 84mm, the bucking for a Maple Leaf Autobot, add a spacer below the hop arm (can be a glued-in I-key or DIY), put a shim between the inner and outer barrel from the front (a cutout from the old bucking works great for this) and shim the space between the outer barrel and the base that holds it to the frame with an alluminum cutout from a soda can to prevent any wobble. That's $30-40 in upgrades, but really turn these things around. With it, the power goes to 300-310 FPS with .20, which puts them on par with most airsoft pistols, and they become the most accurate airsoft GBBP ever, as the barrel is fixed instead of tilting and the hop is a TDC design that's not subject to sidespin. Using .28 they are reaching into the 50m mark and are more accurate than most shooters. I have personally won airsoft IPSC matches with this thing, competing against 100 dudes armed with $1000 hi-capa space guns. - Loctite the screws holding the barrel assembly and the fire control group to the frame, before making a single shot. This will prevent lots of issues, primarily the premature wear of the slide lock and the decocker. Talking of which, you should loctite the screw that actuates the decocker too, but use a lower torque threadlock for that. - Replace the buffer with a urethane bumper glued with 415. This helps function and helps with reliability of the slide lock. - Replace the screws that hold the plug to the main body on each of your mags (as they are super soft) and loctite them to prevent them from walking out. Otherwise, you'll be dealing with incredibly frustrating leaks every other game. - As for spare parts, it will be really useful to have a spare or two for magazine catch leaf spring, as bumping on it can break it. This is by leaps the one part that's most prone to breaking, I think 90% of our guns have had that replaced at one point or another, always because of a bump. Other than that, one of the guns required a spare trigger connector bar, another a sear, and we had to replace the nozzle on two of them, which happened to be the ones that we bought in the US and had the "WE USA Upgraded nozzle" out of the box (the blue nozzle). The original black nozzle never seems to give up, but I would still have a spare one just in case, as with any GBB. - They work with real Makarov holsters btw, which is not something that can be said from any other manufacturer. Strongly recommend Stich Profi's Alfa holsters. With a little bit of work and a few bucks these guns change entirely. They become the most accurate and further-reaching airsoft GBBPs ever, work super-reliably, and are a blast to shoot.
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! We'll see what we can do to salvage this pistol and the other Makarov in our cohort. To be honest, the accuracy of the gun itself seems fine, it's rather the play between the slide (with fixed sights) and barrel that seems to produce problems with consistent shooting. If you have any ideas there, we're certainly open to suggestions.
@GetTheFO
@GetTheFO 8 ай бұрын
…airsoft IPSC is a thing? I’ve literally never heard of this, and am now quite interested. Ammunition is only getting more expensive…
@lag2182
@lag2182 8 ай бұрын
Nope, the block hold the barrel will break no matter what
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 8 ай бұрын
@@lag2182 what?
@Malikyte13
@Malikyte13 8 ай бұрын
"Best sidearm ever" is a gross overstatement. The amount of work you have to put in to make a WE anything even close to decent makes it not worth the effort. Save yourself the time, effort, and money and just buy a more reputable brand like TM.
@jonmoss5026
@jonmoss5026 8 ай бұрын
I think it's a fair review, out of the box they need work for sure. I ditched the awful hop and barrel for a Maple Leaf one and a TNT hop rubber and now it's very accurate. Locktite the screws as you say and lube the wear points with your magic ptfe grease / oil blend and it's actually a lovely little gun. The biggest irony I find is as it's a replica of a Russian gun it cannot handle cold temperatures like AT ALL. Below 12⁰C it fires maybe twice with less power than you can fart a BB out then simply vents off. At room temp its a snappy little thing. For all it's flaws I still cant help but love it. A 14mm ccw thread adapter paired with a Nuprol Viper silencer makes a cool assassin piece.
@wingedsword93
@wingedsword93 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you made a review of this. I have been hunting one for a while but now I'm rethinking this. Excellent video as always!
@ellismcpickle720
@ellismcpickle720 8 ай бұрын
so sad that gbbrs are seeing such a renaissance with new designs and materials when pistols really do feel limited to hi capa or glock still
@codemy666
@codemy666 8 ай бұрын
Most TM pistols have a pretty decent aftermarket
@NomadikProd
@NomadikProd 8 ай бұрын
I think youre not looking hard enough - ASG(KJW) has a full line of CZs, TM makes P226s M&P9s berettas etc, VFC has slowly increasing pistol line ups. Plenty of good options out there.
@AWPtical800
@AWPtical800 8 ай бұрын
@@codemy666 yeah but not nearly to the level of Glocks, Hi-Capas or AAPs. Most of the time there will be one or two aftermarket manufacturers (maybe three), those parts may or may not be in stock on a site with translations to your language, and they absolutely will have massive shipping costs attached to them because thanks to licensing agreements, TM parts can only really be found in the far east. There's also the risk of the platform being completely forgotten: look how they massacred my USP Compact once the full-size USP launched.
@codemy666
@codemy666 8 ай бұрын
@@AWPtical800 Licensing agreements? Bruh, TM just doesn't care much about selling outside of Japan.... it's not that deep There are plenty of translation tools out there to navigate the internet, it's not that hard And idk how many manufacturers you need then per platform, 2-3 is plenty.
@OgaleeBoogalee421
@OgaleeBoogalee421 8 ай бұрын
If we're going to review the gas guns with bad reputations like this, how long until we get a review of the ~$160 Matrix and Golden Eagle m4s?
@WaterComputer
@WaterComputer 8 ай бұрын
One of my friends wants to get one and I’m l basically begging him not to 😭
@neverin54
@neverin54 8 ай бұрын
golden eagles unironically are pretty fine for their $230-90 price point
@Malikyte13
@Malikyte13 8 ай бұрын
@@neverin54 They unironically are not. 230-290 is WAY overpriced for a Golden Eagle. For that kind of money you can get one of the nicer CYMA guns. GE is LPEG quality at starter/mid-range prices.
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
No promises on reviews, but there's going to be some discussion of budget GBBRs (or rather, the pitfalls of budget GBBRs, as well as which ones are actually worthwhile) in the upcoming Q&A.
@catholicpatriotusa1507
@catholicpatriotusa1507 8 ай бұрын
@@ExplosiveEnterprises I highly recommend you guys tackle a Golden Eagle GBBR for that video. They are truly dogshit guns and people new to GBBRs need to understand that. I personally dropped $185 on a Golden Eagle M16 Ris GBBR, and it catastrophically failed literally while chrono graphing during it's first match. And when I say catastrophic, I mean a bb wedged itself BEHIND the bolt head and in-between the bolt carrier and the upper receiver. Extracting the bb destroyed my gun and I've since scavenged it for parts.
@thetwixlord
@thetwixlord 8 ай бұрын
Perfect timing of this review! I got my hands on a leftover PMM from a teammate and I had started to look at whether it would be worth it to try and fix it. This review saved me a good amount of money!
@seancardinus7089
@seancardinus7089 8 ай бұрын
Please do more WE reviews. Also looking forward to the FN fnc review 👍. WEs are very hit or miss but there's some gems out there fs
@ipaintedgusfring1146
@ipaintedgusfring1146 8 ай бұрын
hot take- right now WE make the best AKs. Don't tell me TM, they have barely any recoil and don't have any 545 varients
@cameronnekerekian1712
@cameronnekerekian1712 8 ай бұрын
Idk if its the best, but I got 2 and they are awesome
@shadowjack239
@shadowjack239 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Got a WE Browning, and it's bloody awful. My PX4 however, is pretty good.
@seancardinus7089
@seancardinus7089 8 ай бұрын
@@shadowjack239 I've had overall pretty good experience with my g26 👍. WE gets hate for pot metal use, but they are also a metallurgy company or something so their pot metal is way better than others. Their paint however, is awful. Setting my Glock down on a wooden desk scratched it significantly.
@jacoblucas4259
@jacoblucas4259 8 ай бұрын
@@shadowjack239 tragically the hi powers are notoriously fucking awful. I regularly have to talk myself out of wasting time trying to fix one up and add a hopup but I'm sure its not worthwhile.
@ThatOneFriendlyDude
@ThatOneFriendlyDude 8 ай бұрын
As someone who recently purchased an SRC USP Tactical after absorbing as much admittedly-limited info as I could about the things, I understand the "clones are often as good as their designs" thing - it being a direct 1:1 clone of the TM USP design to the point that it allegedly tends to be bought by TM USP owners as parts guns (though in hindsight, I wish I'd considered the reason for this being that there aren't a lot of spare parts available from retailers for it (seems to only be some rather specific parts - trigger assembly, magazine gas valves, that sort of thing), especially replacement feed lips as I now have a gas mag that has broken ones after it made a daring bid for freedom onto a tile floor and being a Canadian means my options are at most extremely limited and sketch and more likely nonexistent - without contacting retailers, anyways), it seems to be leagues ahead of previous clones by the company solely because the design they cloned is a lot sturdier than old-school TM and their in-house designs. Sucks that the WE Mak has its issues out of the box, especially since the KSC one is unobtainium despite the trigger problem IIRC being a one-piece fix that could literally be made with shim stock - would be cool to see someone step up to the plate and make a decent Mak or Tok, but for now they really do seem to just fall into the category of poorly-designed iterations of an otherwise-interesting historical pistol, much like the shown WE BHP or the not-shown WE Luger. Edit five months later: adjusted section about spare parts, and also the idea of VFC eventually releasing a Makarov of their own is extremely promising, so I do hope a review of that comes out to follow this one.
@catholicpatriotusa1507
@catholicpatriotusa1507 8 ай бұрын
As someone who uses a WE AK PMC regularly, I can say that WE does make really good stuff, but they cut corners in major places and do require RA Tech upgrade parts to function past 2000 rounds. The stock internals of their trigger packs are often zinc, and they simply DO NOT hold up to sustained use. However, upgraded WE's outshoot and outperform TMs and VFCs in almost all areas. The pure potential of their guns is what has made me a loyal customer, even if work needs to go into them in order to realize that potential.
@stereotypicalemousername9507
@stereotypicalemousername9507 4 ай бұрын
i’m planning on putting some money into my samurai edge (hoping for real wood grips for it some day) i have from them i love the thing and my kits gonna be based around chris redfields stars uniform from the original
@takinie9024
@takinie9024 3 ай бұрын
My man, I can do the same to TM and WE ain't got shit on upgraded Marui
@catholicpatriotusa1507
@catholicpatriotusa1507 3 ай бұрын
@@takinie9024 I've consistently outshot my teammate's ZET Systems AK which has been basically pushed it it's max potential by aftermarket parts. WE guns might not be superior, but their aftermarket sure as hell is.
@Furko08
@Furko08 8 ай бұрын
1:24 I hope I don't mix it up with anything but I believe I read once that the more powerful round got cancelled because while they could make the PMM able to handle the more powerful new ammo, there would be no way to prevent people from loading the more powerful ammo into older guns and blowing them up
@benniotto
@benniotto 8 ай бұрын
Wow! Your Russian pronunciation is actually spot on man! Saying модернизированный is really hard for most westerners.
@JACK-bp6xz
@JACK-bp6xz 8 ай бұрын
To those looking for Russian themed pistols: Kizuna works makes a PL15k replica now, with steel fire control parts.
@cypressmarch6632
@cypressmarch6632 8 ай бұрын
Their full-sized MPL is already out as well!
@Zhoomification
@Zhoomification 8 ай бұрын
Was just about to comment this - their full-sized MKW (MPL) is quite nice and can be outfitted with a plate + red dot and a compensator/suppressor.
@brim-skerdouglasson
@brim-skerdouglasson 8 ай бұрын
I don’t play air soft or really care about it at all but I watched this whole video. Neat stuff your presentation is great.
@rider4440
@rider4440 8 ай бұрын
Those was an unexpected but yet very welcome review.
@Mountain_Armory
@Mountain_Armory 8 ай бұрын
It’s always a good day when you guys post
@yoloman3607
@yoloman3607 8 ай бұрын
I have a silver model that I like, its got some metal defects on the slide and the magazines have slowly started to fail over the years but it is a generally nice gun to use and the best of the airsoft makarovs, which is an extremely low bar.
@yoloman3607
@yoloman3607 8 ай бұрын
Having watched the video, mine is in nowhere near as bad shape. Lot less wiggle, the inner barrel extension works and the accuracy is quite good, slide catch is still mostly working. The only thing is it usually only goes to 40 rounds per magazine.
@campionpesate4647
@campionpesate4647 8 ай бұрын
Very professionally made video.
@ruskgaming6019
@ruskgaming6019 8 ай бұрын
Id love more reviews on not good/Mid airsofr GBBs gives good insights on why you shouldnt buy them
@lag2182
@lag2182 8 ай бұрын
fun fact, not only the block that secure the barrel will come lose, the area containing the pin will break because the force that slide bump into barrel will cause a crack right above the barrel pin, and barrel and barrel pin will freely fell out after some use I already replace this block for two times in two years period,and that is in the case of I live in Taiwan, and i can get parts from WE easily
@KumiTheFolf
@KumiTheFolf 8 ай бұрын
Guys, tbh I gave my WE PMM a new Bucking and cutsom H-key and it shoots now very reliable, even hits at 40m. Its not a fancy gun and it need love but it has potential.
@Lumpy_Strohhut
@Lumpy_Strohhut 8 ай бұрын
As my russian ''Larp'' kit i use the farely new Kizuna Works PL-15K. have you tried that one.
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
We've heard good things and definitely want to give it a go, or the full-size PL-15 that Kizuna has on the way. The only reason we didn't mention it is because, as far as we know, the PL-15 is issued on a very limited basis and consequently not an appropriate sidearm for most Russian impressions.
@TheTgo97
@TheTgo97 8 ай бұрын
I would love more WE reviews as i feel they are lore obtainable than higher ends and if done right Ive seen them perform quite well
@thesonexboy
@thesonexboy 8 ай бұрын
coincidentally I just praised my WE makarov for its surviveability. i've used mine for several years as a standard secondary with barely any maintenance, i lost it in a field for a year, found it again. wiped off the dirt and regreased it, ran flawlessly again. only thing i had done to it was reshape the nozzle as it was getting pretty worn.
@elek101
@elek101 8 ай бұрын
I used to have a CZ83, but i sold it to my grandpa recently. Honestly a really nice gun, and the grip fit my hand super well. The only thing i disliked about mine was the vague trigger break, basically surprising me with every trigger pull. I wouldve kept it if the trigger had a clear break.
@alexesposito4347
@alexesposito4347 8 ай бұрын
Wait what? 13:07 Do guarder gen 2 frames mount on we glocks? which models?
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
The WEs are direct clones of gen 3 TMs, so most aftermarket intended for the TMs will work with WE parts.
@alexesposito4347
@alexesposito4347 8 ай бұрын
@@ExplosiveEnterprises this could be the most valuable piece of information i learned today. I was searching a way to build a gas blowback gen 2,since the only gen 2 available is TM springer but i wanted something more realistic
@srslywtfcl4p404
@srslywtfcl4p404 8 ай бұрын
The WE glocks are great. have had one for years
@sheinar4885
@sheinar4885 8 ай бұрын
We gas guns are very hit or miss. My first gbb pistol was a WE g17 that I shoot to death. It served me for a few years and it was decent (hop up was trash tho). After that i switched to marui and then to VFC glocks. My vfc g45 is going to hit 2 years of service soon and its doing great. Recently i got a gbb G36k from We and its great. Parts are crap still but they are easy to find in my country, cheap and avaible in almost any airsoft shop. Gonna put ra tech npass in, buy some mags and use as a back up.👍
@pxgn2303
@pxgn2303 8 ай бұрын
I'd never expect to see this fella reviewed here. Pretty much agree with the conclusions after "using" one for 2 years now. Its a holster piece that gets a lot of "hey cool is that a makarov" comments but isn't actually all that useful as an airsoft gun for playing airsoft. I don't get NEARLY the same efficiency however, mine can only get through about a single mag worth of bbs before needing to regas.
@ainistonkush
@ainistonkush 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for both the vfc and raptor (if they didn't drop the project) APS Stechkin pistols, surely they will be reliable ... Right ?
@aarnojamsa3395
@aarnojamsa3395 8 ай бұрын
Putting the inner barrel extension in also means that it will shit itself after shooting 6 bb's. I just run it with the suppressor without the inner barrel extension to better fit a holster.
@JHKartingUK
@JHKartingUK 8 ай бұрын
as for the grips, i had to learn this the hard way since i have one, they're really fucking stupid, theyre based on the airgun, but are still proprietary, meaning all pmm or baikal grips need some filing/sanding to fit flush, they really couldn't have just used slightly less plastic to accommodate traditional grips. I do really love my makarov, but it is also a piece of shit and there are so many screws i had to thread lock including the one you mentioned, the trigger mechanism screw under the grip, the slide release screw, pretty much every screw eventually comes loose and breaks it, also minor issues as mentioned with accuracy and such, it even started to lock shut because the slide spring was going over and getting stuck behind the hop adjustment, scratching the shit out of the outer barrel and almost breaking it trying to get it off, alas, it is my funny little makarov and i will always love it regardless
@Grantovichvzm
@Grantovichvzm 8 ай бұрын
I have their p38 and it's the holster stuffer as well. Weak gas reservour which will work only in really hot weather, wobbly barrel, low accuracy, pot metal all over the place. But it copies the real thing pretty well internaly, and looks pretty. Made it a post-war variant with p.1 handle cheeks to complement my 90-s bundeswehr G3 kit. Overall they're barely skirmishable and you can't really depend of these handguns.
@76254r
@76254r 8 ай бұрын
i havent invested into airsoft just yet, as i have a severe lack of money, but these are still fun to watch
@ssebah
@ssebah 8 ай бұрын
The problem with the decocker is that the slide screw and the safety selector itself are mare out of a cheap material which in time will "wear out" and when released, the hammer will actually hit the mag valve slightly but enough for it to release the whole gas in the mag. The screw has a tendency to bend and/or snap while the safety selector will break slightly over time. Replaced them 2 times now and there's no real replacement that would hold over time. Overall, I love this little pea shooter.
@properrrprop2653
@properrrprop2653 8 ай бұрын
My friend has one of these. It looks and feels so different in hand than a real PM! Nothing like the original, seriously. Different weight and the springs are all featherweight weak compared to the original. Even for an airsoft gun it feels too much like a toy :D We also had the fire control group try to catapult itself out of it's place so if you ever buy this make sure to tighten that hammer housing screw immediately!
@BaliSeoul
@BaliSeoul 7 ай бұрын
I would like to see a video about the KWA lm4 in this style. It was my first gbbr so seeing an in depth look at it would be cool. Thanks.
@damikel4738
@damikel4738 8 ай бұрын
New to the world of GBB. I’ve been considering buying a WE C96 purely for the reason that someone has designed 3D-printable “stripper clips” to reload it, and I think that’s a pretty cool concept that I haven’t seen for any other GBB C96s. Does the WE C96/M712 have the same shortcomings? Looking for anything to watch out for.
@JACK-bp6xz
@JACK-bp6xz 8 ай бұрын
It's actually the better WEs that are made, at least they don't try to kill themselves, and the C96 has decent renge and accuracy ~~ plus a lot of kits
@MrPolicekarim
@MrPolicekarim 8 ай бұрын
I have the KWC version. Very powerful. The WE one comes with a stock/holster.
@852kingsley
@852kingsley 8 ай бұрын
Can you do a we Thompson m1a1 gbb review
@BlackeRaven25
@BlackeRaven25 6 ай бұрын
the low power is actually good if you play in Germany. lots of fields only allow 0.5J in buildings. Very good review!
@frostydrifter
@frostydrifter 8 ай бұрын
9:51 mgs4 chapter 3 reference?
@Konstam08
@Konstam08 8 ай бұрын
It would be great to see some other brands like army army armament. The r31 for example would be interesting because you mainly focus on more expensive gbb guns where as a 60 € one would get a lot more people interested in gbb
@UNX-ORD
@UNX-ORD 8 ай бұрын
Getting my first gbb, I noticed that the trigger is quite sloppy and has barely any break. Would it be possible to modify the trigger pack to get a better trigger response or is that just out of the question. I tried looking this up for gbbs and real steel, but it seems like no one has done it
@imaginewagons2122
@imaginewagons2122 25 күн бұрын
Is there any PM that isnt bad? I like the look of them but most of the ones on the market currently suck.
@simon_969
@simon_969 8 ай бұрын
Some We tech guns are earlier design and some are later guns Later guns are better than early ones usually but one should check online to see if something they want to buy have a glaring design flaw or not M9 hipower Luger 1911 etc are earlier guns while the makarov Masada mp5 are later ones
@Captain_Coleslaw
@Captain_Coleslaw 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see a breakdown of the Cybergun SCAR-H (VFC), Its got a hecload of recoil, but some reliability problems (Atleast mine does)
@thomaswinnie4926
@thomaswinnie4926 8 ай бұрын
Id like to see a review of the abysmally bad WE L85
@liambrown4214
@liambrown4214 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome. If possible can you please do a video of the WE G36C? In terms of reliability and upgrades. Myself and a lot of people I talk to want one but are sceptical about the actual functionality of them in the long term
@thewizard2390
@thewizard2390 8 ай бұрын
I'm kind of new to gas guns, but what is the issue with kwc? I've found them to be really good in terms of simulation and being cheap to repair and maintain.
@norbertcsorba4639
@norbertcsorba4639 8 ай бұрын
Ah yeah. We need more WE gun… reviews
@AWPtical800
@AWPtical800 8 ай бұрын
less review, more roast.
@bigfish821
@bigfish821 8 ай бұрын
I just got my hands on an old broken We-Tech luger that was given to me for free and a video taking jabs at We's poor materials and issues with wear and tear is just what I needed to relate to, Their Luger is such ass
@Zynophage
@Zynophage 8 ай бұрын
Exicted for the ak review for WE. And hopefully they do a p90 we review too
@zhengcao8491
@zhengcao8491 8 ай бұрын
Can we have an E&L QBZ-191 review🔥🔥🔥
@zacharyirizarry8589
@zacharyirizarry8589 8 ай бұрын
mine broke, which sucks cause I really like, it it stopped working so I'm gonna see if I can put aap01 parts in it
@subterror2274
@subterror2274 8 ай бұрын
How's the WE Mp7? I keep seeing things about it being the only 'true' 1:1 replica, where Umarex, VFC and Elite Force Mp7's are slightly scaled down (and also cost an arm and a leg)
@cillblinton8181
@cillblinton8181 3 ай бұрын
the vfc is not scaled down. Thats simply not true.
@draxusdemos8266
@draxusdemos8266 8 ай бұрын
Damn was planning on getting one of the WE hi powers as a browning fan boy but i think ill hold off
@CypherAod
@CypherAod 8 ай бұрын
Yeah avoid at all costs. They're a direct clone of the atrociously fragile Tanaka Works brownings but with significantly poorer tolerances so they fell rough as hell until they break completely.
@dobridjordje
@dobridjordje 17 күн бұрын
The new version is much better than the old one, especially the finish and the internals in them, Hi Powers are now actually excellent.​@@CypherAod
@hanswurst2765
@hanswurst2765 8 ай бұрын
Make a review about theire KAC PDW. They have steel outer barrels and I know you guys like that stuff lol.
@chost-059
@chost-059 8 ай бұрын
ive been looking to buy a Makarov/PMM or eastern style gas pistol for a new loadout to replace my glock/AAP01, but i just cant seem to find any good ones
@randomcomrade_hun4636
@randomcomrade_hun4636 8 ай бұрын
I was literally eyeing this pistol for a rusfor kit in the future, but I guess not. Not sure what GBB pistol would be good now.
@AirsoftGasBlowback
@AirsoftGasBlowback 8 ай бұрын
Review the ghk sig 553 and vfc sr25❤
@alexisklingler7279
@alexisklingler7279 8 ай бұрын
I started airsoft with we m9 gen Slide has so many play it was shooting full auto on semi and can remove paint with my nail. Buy a m&p gold two years ago on black friday finish is way better i try paint remover the slide is always gold
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
A few points to add: 7,62x25 was replaced because it was not a good cartrige for police in cities, because it would easily overpenetrate and hit whatever is behind the suspect. Actually, part of the reason USSR police and special forced would take off their soft body armour (it was primitive) is overpenetration - you had better odds of survival if the bullet made a clean hole through you, compared to surviving internal bleeding from blunt force trauma, as it was also more difficult to detect to take care of. Another reason why Soviets didn't go with already existing .380 is they didn't want allies to be able to use their guns if a coup were to happen and they had to go to war with one of their ex allies - they wanted to be able to use their ammunition, but not the other way around, which is why 9x18 is one way compatible with .380 guns And a fun fact I learned from my dad, that he learned while he was in the military: 9x18 has such low penetration power that it will only kick loose thick plastic bottles, without punching holes in them. One day they had ammo they needed to get rid of so they played "football" with a dish soap bottle and a couple of Makarovs
@tyler1768
@tyler1768 8 ай бұрын
Omg obviously never shoot a Makarov or prob any gun biggest bullshit post ever if a 9mm Makarov has no penetration then reg 380 has none 😂 your soon full of shit
@Malikyte13
@Malikyte13 8 ай бұрын
Two myths in one post, impressive. For anyone considering using 9x18 in a .380 gun, .380 in a 9x18 gun, or any other caliber in any gun not specifically made for it - don't. Use the proper ammunition for the firearm you're using lest you end up on an episode of Brandon Herrera's Darwin Awards videos. And if 9x18 couldn't penetrate a plastic bottle, it wouldn't be able to penetrate a human body. And I assure you, it will absolutely put holes in you.
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
@@Malikyte13 Incorrectly correcting other people, huh? I never said you should or that it would be effective to use .380 in 9x18, you're putting words in my mouth. It's fairly common knowledge that 9x18 is bigger so you won't get any kind of seal and accuracy with .380, that's for one. Secondly, it's easier to penetrate a human body that has mass to it and doesn't jump out of the way, isn't it? 9x18 is SLOW, and it needs SPEED to penetrate something that isn't secured. Especially with round bullet that it, conveniently, has. So it kicks the bottle more than it penetrates. Obviously, the bottle would get deformed and compressed over time, making it easier to penetrate. However, all of 120 lbs of your flesh are much heavier than an empty plastic bottle and your flesh doesn't take deformation so kindly.
@s_vb2220
@s_vb2220 8 ай бұрын
idk man, from what i heard 9x18 was developed and adopted to allouw the PM to be as simple as possible, by having it at a low enough pressure they where able to have the PM be a simple blowback with no need for a locking mechanism. the Russians realised that you will be carrying it a lot more than you will be shooting it, so they made it compact simple and light (for the time) at the cost of power.
@Schrodingers_kid
@Schrodingers_kid 8 ай бұрын
@@s_vb2220 That is also true Fun fact: Makarov has also made a wrench to put on lids on jars that is about as simple as his pistol
@baglieto11
@baglieto11 8 ай бұрын
The newer marked examples have a much higher quality finish, alike the APACHE
@Sakurazaki1023
@Sakurazaki1023 8 ай бұрын
How did you manage to post this video 2 days AFTER I ordered a WE PMM, Browning Hi-Power, and Luger to go with some era-appropriate primary weapons? Granted, it was either WE or KWC, and KWC are the absolute worst. Learned my lesson with their Jericho NBB.
@yoloman3607
@yoloman3607 8 ай бұрын
Goddamn these things are $150 these days? Got mine years ago on sale for like $97 on Evike. RIP Evike price hikes.
@dynamomungus
@dynamomungus 7 ай бұрын
Would you be interested in reviewing the KWA kmp9 ?
@saltykaiser
@saltykaiser Ай бұрын
Does anyone know where to get a star style grip tgat fits this pistol?
@eggbred.
@eggbred. Ай бұрын
WE makes(kinda shitty)flat brown grips, which are readily available on KYAirsoft, but they dont look great. Alternatively, you can get a real steel or Baikal airgun PMM Bakelite grip, but you'd have to modify it quite a bit. Mind you if its a real steel Bakelite grip, and its from the USSR, it wouldn't be unlikely for it to have asbestos in it. So, if you go the reel steel route, modify it with caution, preferably a respirator.
@lovik2.0
@lovik2.0 5 ай бұрын
What are theses safety glasses you are using please ? I like them a lot :)
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 5 ай бұрын
They're Pyramex Monitors.
@lovik2.0
@lovik2.0 5 ай бұрын
@@ExplosiveEnterprises Are they safe for playing airsoft ? In France we play at 1 to 1.5 joules
@lovik2.0
@lovik2.0 5 ай бұрын
@@ExplosiveEnterprises Nevermind, they are absolutly impossible to find :(
@indylid754
@indylid754 8 ай бұрын
Hey man! Big fan of your content and your in depth reviews I’m wondering if you could do a Vfc mp7 thanks!
@capatinswifty
@capatinswifty 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. I know one of you guys has a m712. Would live a review. I have one. Found it to be fragile but very snappy and with fixed hoo shoots very well. Ive modded mine a lot and Wouldn't lobe to see if i missed anything
@richmondneo1
@richmondneo1 8 ай бұрын
Man I cant believe you got this out when you did! I've been looking for one for a while now since I want one for my russian/soviet kit but after seeing this im probbably gonna wait for the vfc Aps stechkin it even comes in a holster too lol. Also I use a we tech ak74 and love that thing ngl but I wonder what you think about it
@stralegaming2597
@stralegaming2597 7 ай бұрын
Would you mind doing a WE TT 33 review, I cannot find a good review of it anywhere on the internet
@crewgadjy
@crewgadjy 7 ай бұрын
Did I se a random picture of a CZ53 in there around about the 60 seconds mark. 😎
@IamHomeless692.0
@IamHomeless692.0 8 ай бұрын
Up in canada retailers have the audacity to sell this thing for close to 300 bucks a pop
@frostydrifter
@frostydrifter 8 ай бұрын
Whats a better alternative for a makarov
@PotatoGaming3464
@PotatoGaming3464 8 ай бұрын
Could you do a review on the emg dd mk18 (gbb)
@tj4y48
@tj4y48 8 ай бұрын
Do you plan on making a video about the VFC v2 mp7 in the future?
@jielee333
@jielee333 8 ай бұрын
This is off topic but where can i get a vfc gbbr shipped here in the united states with the trademarks? Edit: specifically the mk18 mod 1 v3
@skyehimalaya8047
@skyehimalaya8047 2 ай бұрын
Any good recommendations for an airsoft PM/PMM?
@LH1980XX
@LH1980XX 8 ай бұрын
But they make a double one!
@fnord4960
@fnord4960 8 ай бұрын
Double the failure.
@TheTeeWorldsfreak
@TheTeeWorldsfreak 8 ай бұрын
The obvious answer to the mediocre PM is the Nagant Revolver
@Womolik
@Womolik 8 ай бұрын
I have it, my first gbb, range and accuracy is not best let's say, but it's job is to keep me alive ine situations where i have to hit my enemy at 1m maybe 3, for this job it's good enough, funny to watch reviev of the gun i have. I bought it for larping, and adding +10 to charisma during negotiations
@blacktuesday7427
@blacktuesday7427 8 ай бұрын
No tt33?😢
@aaron4820
@aaron4820 8 ай бұрын
This is still one of my treasured builds with the Mafioso blued steel kit, works very well on green gas despite full steel. Whatever happened to WE....? They used to be the most exciting brand with lots of new innovation, remember the nightmare that was the P90? Super cool design, seals as well as a sieve, but a unique offering many people wanted, they would come up with new GBBRs models few times a year, endless new pistols that beats TM's schedules. Then nothing, for years now we've had nothing from WE. Did VFC steal all their engineers? What happened.
@ExplosiveEnterprises
@ExplosiveEnterprises 8 ай бұрын
WE actually just revised the P90 (which we'd like to try) and just released a V3 of their AR platform. We've definitely noticed a slowdown in the pace of brand new releases, though.
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 8 ай бұрын
looks like they (rightfully) dedicated the last few years to redesigning the lacking features of some of their products rather than developing new ones. They redesigned their 1911, released a complete redesign of their AR platforms, and are now coming out with a revised P90 and SMG-8. Not to mention silent fixes, such as small changes in their G18s that mean they no longer eat nozzles for breakfast, a small change on the tolerance for their SVD magwell which fixes pretty much all of its issues, or the redesigned firing pin and trigger housing for their AKs that prevents two of the most common breakages. It seems someone decided to greatly increase the quality of their lineup rather than coming out with new guns that would die off months after their release. All of this after wasting a couple years making double-barrel everything, of course.
@okroon256
@okroon256 8 ай бұрын
Do WE AK while yes its cheap it's only full travel AK on the market as far as I know and has good verity and compatibility with aftermarket parts that can fix it
@hitman.fb_100
@hitman.fb_100 8 ай бұрын
Is that a gen 1 or 2 glock
@SuperNoviceDriver
@SuperNoviceDriver 7 күн бұрын
Airsoft guns usually don't have the best materials so perhaps it's not the material that's the main issue but design flaws combined with the weak materials that caused weaknesses in some parts. Japanese TM KSC ones have a better fit and accuracy out of the box but I have some bad experience with parts breaking as well.
@Gassygemareld
@Gassygemareld 8 ай бұрын
Do you have any experience with the tt33’s?
@cypressmarch6632
@cypressmarch6632 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your reviews! They are always interesting to watch. I have WE PMM and МР659К in my collection. Gotta say WE did a garbage job on copying the pistol (it's rather IJ model than PMM). The steel MР659K just feels ten times nicer. I guess there's no good airsoft Makarov on the market right now?
@facundocorradini
@facundocorradini 8 ай бұрын
you mean the shape? the WE PMM resembles the production version of the real PMM, not the IJ
@cypressmarch6632
@cypressmarch6632 8 ай бұрын
@@facundocorradini No, EP said it in the video and got it right. WE Makarov is based on MP654K. MP654K is based on non-lethal IJ pistol, and not on PMM or PM, but looks similar. It got PMM frame and PM slide.
@jacobagnew8111
@jacobagnew8111 8 ай бұрын
My WE gen 5 G17 has been excellent. The build quality, finish and accuracy are far better than that of your gun. Only negative thing about it is that after about 4000/5000 rounds, the back of the nozzle housing broke.
@gunsmoke132
@gunsmoke132 8 ай бұрын
"pot Metal extravaganza" so TM guns?
@OtakuMeister
@OtakuMeister 8 ай бұрын
what would you recommend for a good gbb pistol brand?
@Sakurazaki1023
@Sakurazaki1023 8 ай бұрын
Buy Tokyo Marui if you can afford it. If not, go with any of the ASG CZ guns. They're made by KJW and good quality for the price.
@tokiokai4510
@tokiokai4510 8 ай бұрын
can you do AK mainentance video? pleaaase
@easter3000
@easter3000 8 ай бұрын
I want to point out your pronunciation of Russian words - outstanding. For real.
@hungryhedgehog4201
@hungryhedgehog4201 Ай бұрын
I was actually thinking of buying it before I saw this
@alexandoro7438
@alexandoro7438 8 ай бұрын
You're good at speaking Russian! Thank you for the video, it was a pleasure to watch!
@munk7120
@munk7120 8 ай бұрын
very cool video, I've had a KWC mak for a while now and i loved it until it shit itself and died.
@YoChocolate
@YoChocolate 8 ай бұрын
I once had this thing in the shopping cart already but decided to do some more research and what I found out made me quite angry: This isnt an actual replica of a Makarov PMM. WE (most likely accidentally) replicated the popular Russian Baikal airgun MP-654K. And they got away with it. Its not much of a difference but I cant unsee it now. Edit: I... should have watched to the end first.
@monday2663
@monday2663 8 ай бұрын
mp7 next plzzzzzz
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