We Build A Fuzz Face With Markus Reeves [Germanium & Silicon]

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@ryanhillclimber
@ryanhillclimber 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have breathed new life into my musical world. I’ve since joined a band, built a couple of boards, and have even made a couple of pedals I’m very proud of. I know others have benefited at least as much as I have. Cheers boys!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
That’s wonderful to hear Ryan. Thank you for being here!
@Tsudkyk
@Tsudkyk 2 жыл бұрын
Proper!
@300Foxes
@300Foxes 2 жыл бұрын
Mick: "Joe Bonamasa gave me this" Markus: "honk" I loved that part 😄😄
@janniklasjansen6561
@janniklasjansen6561 2 жыл бұрын
First Johnny building a guitar, now Markus building a Fuzz - what a way to start the year.
@smarkalet9078
@smarkalet9078 2 жыл бұрын
Next comes the amp build?:)
@elstoof
@elstoof 2 жыл бұрын
@@smarkalet9078 did a video with Rift a while back
@smelltheglove2038
@smelltheglove2038 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, forgot it was Friday!!! These “hands on” episodes are f’in awesome!!!!!
@aaronnickell3717
@aaronnickell3717 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful episode, gentlemen. It'd be great to see Markus build one of his point-to-point fuzzes!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
We may do that on the next visit…. :0)
@perryadams3159
@perryadams3159 2 жыл бұрын
When soldering heat sensitive components, it's best not to solder every lead in order.. solder 1 lead, go to another component to solder, come back to the second lead, etc. I learned that from a technician who was trained in soldering from a NASA solder training class..
@JoshClarkson
@JoshClarkson 2 жыл бұрын
from fuzz face to space race
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
Good point 👍 I'll not pilot mine for Jupiter then 🤩🤩
@perryadams3159
@perryadams3159 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeveselectro you obviously have done this for a long time and know what you're doing; just sharing because it does help to be less stressed when dealing with heat sensitive components. We used to have to do this when components lifted during wave soldering, and 80% of the time we were able to save the component.
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
All valid points, sorry if my reply seemed sarcastic it wasn't meant that way ... I was thinking more about Jimi 'to your right you will see Mars' .... anyway, the heat thing: having the luxury of room in the enclosure let me leave an inch or so of component lead, so the heat thing wasn't a concern. It was mentioned more as advise that commentary. Now if it was a rack module board with tight clearance and the transistors had to be upright and down to the board it would be a different issue. Leaving the legs long on the reverse side and clipping alligator clips as heat sinks, being slower would be the order of the day. 👍👍
@kevincaliva2449
@kevincaliva2449 2 жыл бұрын
I actually learned this lesson the hard way with 3PDT switches. On my first ever kit build, I soldered all 9 terminals in short sequence. The material that keeps the terminals in places actually melted a bit, then hardened again. I didn't think much of it until the switch failed about 6 months later. Lesson learned!!
@chriscottguitar4287
@chriscottguitar4287 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this maker bent you guys are on. I really love to technical aspects of the instrument and effects. Would love to see more of it!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
We’ll do more during the year Chris. Can’t do it every week of course, and the hard bit is finding gems like Markus and Jonny who can spare the time…. Instead of sending the marketing team who just want to sing from the company hymn sheet. We’ll do our best!
@chriscottguitar4287
@chriscottguitar4287 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow You always do! And we love you for it!!! 😃
@davedavem
@davedavem 2 жыл бұрын
The inside of that Reeves Electro pedal gave me the fuzz.
@Gniff85411
@Gniff85411 2 жыл бұрын
Please bring Markus back sometime. What a quality guest, and an incredibly fun show.
@tareum420
@tareum420 2 жыл бұрын
Jeorge Tripps has been sooooo kind with you guys !!!! I really like the way he improved the fuzz faces at dunlop. Peace and Love to You !!!! (and thanks Jeorge & Markus !)
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@neilmeansneil
@neilmeansneil 2 жыл бұрын
Just lost an hour playing with my £20 "Fuzz Face" pedal that a built last year, I hadn't realised how much I could control the Fuzz with Volume and Tone controls on my guitar, a true revelation! Great Vid, thanks guys!
@GoranPantic
@GoranPantic 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta admit I prefer the silicon one over the germanium one. I actually really like the silicon one, and I don't really like the germanium one. Germanium one sounds a bit too boomy and seems like it wouldn't sit in a mix.
@amalgamaudioLV
@amalgamaudioLV 2 жыл бұрын
What were the HFE ratings on these - something along the classic 80 for Q1 and 120 for Q2?
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there abouts ✔️✔️✔️👍
@blahblah4767
@blahblah4767 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he did a kind of poor job of explaining feedback. The purpose of negative feedback is to reduce the overall gain. You would certainly still get distortion without it, and the feedback just makes it more stable, reduces the non-linear distortion, and lowers the overall gain of the two amplifier stages. When you adjust the gain on a fuzzface, you're not adjusting the gain on either of the amplifier stages, but rather adjusting the amount of feedback. If you took the 100k resistor out, it would be louder, and have more (and uglier) distortion, not less. ElectroSmash has a great explanation on it, for people who don't understand amplifier topologies.
@patrickbutcherine142
@patrickbutcherine142 2 жыл бұрын
I see he got around to putting that sketch I mentioned on the the first post he made with his sketches that "wouldn't sell on a shirt" when I said that'd be bad ass on a shirt.... On a shirt!!! Audiophile and Mil spec parts that are "not worth the time for the cost" makin into pedals as well... Great thing bout the social media ethos is that you find out and eventually know which builders to support cuz ACTUALLY appreciate their customers and fans. Wonder if he's selling those as paintings for decent money as "art" too.... I just realized almost just about everything I've ever said, I'd buy that if it were like this... I don't have Not 1 of yet but they're everywhere!! I couldn't stand being a Fuller, he's got an entire genre of builders who ain't really good people's deep thats named after him. Never give credit when credits due... On his tombstone he'll have his lifes motto... I invented it
@dwaynejessome1728
@dwaynejessome1728 2 жыл бұрын
Honk LOL - from the minute I heard the Lemmy reference laugh, I knew I was going to like Mr. Markus Reeves. Great episode!
@Andrew-h3q6b
@Andrew-h3q6b 5 ай бұрын
05:30. I always put the in and out puts the wrong way round, because I'm left handed. 😁
@danolivier4899
@danolivier4899 2 жыл бұрын
Markus: oh look two NK275s... Dan: oh look, my bitcoin wallet from 2013
@Bimmer2047
@Bimmer2047 2 жыл бұрын
For me it would be the blue one but I would like to try it with a lower bias resistor.
@Paulmccarthy6801
@Paulmccarthy6801 Жыл бұрын
Have you guys seen the JHS mod. It sounds pretty good and makes it significantly louder
@russiangoose7053
@russiangoose7053 Жыл бұрын
That 61 LP Junior would've sounded even cooler tuned down to C standard with that fuzz 🥵
@gbbruno596
@gbbruno596 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. My takeaway: silicon and germanium fuzz faces (even with mythical NKT transistors) can be set to sound so similar one wonders what this craze about germanium fuzzes is about. Yes, the germanium cleans up a bit better and retains more bottom end. However the silicon has more fidelity in the top end and on max guitar volume sounds a bit better, if anything. Considering the mega difference in price, a good silicon ff seems a no brainer to me.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda concur. Mick here…. But it’s a little bit more complex than that once you start messing about with biasing and all that. There are some sounds that //only// a nicely tweaked Ge will do; conversely that nicely tweaked Ge will never do what an aggressive silicon one will do. As always…. Just entirely down to personal preference. I’ve always preferred the silicon ones for what it’s worth. Cheers!
@gbbruno596
@gbbruno596 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow I hear you Mick. And since you are mainly a strat player, I can see now why you lean towards SI fuzzes. This is why TPS is such a great show: it helps modest amateur players like myself to put things in context (and avoid dealing in absolutes).
@gearathon
@gearathon 2 жыл бұрын
The blue sounds better to me🙂
@tremelo68
@tremelo68 2 жыл бұрын
Dan, cover star for JazzJitsuist! Awesome!
@philippgrunert8776
@philippgrunert8776 2 жыл бұрын
I destroied my first build completely as all I have access to is lead free solder for starters and no clue one has to heat it up more and to not remelt it...
@mgiliberto
@mgiliberto 2 жыл бұрын
Both episodes with Markus are great. Thanks for having him on. Btw, it appears TPS is now at 300K subscribers, or near enough. Congrats, D&M.
@ziptidy
@ziptidy 2 жыл бұрын
I hesitated before submitting this for fear of being 'Safety Dave' but would caution that blu-tak gives off carbon monoxide when exposed to high temperatures, see manufacturers material safety data sheet. May be not a big deal if you're only using small amounts but worth being careful :). Also be careful of fumes given off by solder/flux. Ventilation or fume extraction strongly recommended.
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice 'Dave' 😉 and yes you're absolutely spot on there. My workshop bench has extraction both overhead and built MK2 not my soldering platform. The room we used to film is 10m X 5m so the small desk fan was sufficient for the hour or so I was working. But yes totally right those fumes ARE NOT NICE to be constantly exposed to. 👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏
@erpringle
@erpringle 2 жыл бұрын
The blue one doesn't clean up as good with the guitar volume on the strat it sounds like to me.
@JoshCMinecraft
@JoshCMinecraft 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things that I would recommend pointing out is component selection. Those nkt275’s were most definitely binned for being within a specific range of gain, and the other components were also probably selected based on their quality and tolerance standards. I’ve been doing some DIY pedal work and circuit design for the last few years, and have found that finding quality components is not always as simple as going on digitech and finding the first option that comes up for the spec you’re looking for. Just something to think about, loved the video guys!!
@duel2k7
@duel2k7 2 жыл бұрын
They aren't vintage. They are the reproduction ones that Dunlop use.
@stratnut
@stratnut 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I found too. I bought a number of "vintage" transistors a while back, including "sought after" Mullards OC44s etc. I measured the hfe and how leaky they were. I found that only 1 or 2 in every 10 had the correct gain and were not too leaky. Disappointing (and costly) experience!
@eeftrippe1859
@eeftrippe1859 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. i need to build a silicon fuzz face. Just so i have a set.. :)
@andresilva8444
@andresilva8444 2 жыл бұрын
Markus' pedals should come with a clear plexiglass top. I want to look at them more than I want to play them. And I really want to play them. Got so many questions!!
@willwetherington
@willwetherington 10 ай бұрын
Does this dude have hisbon channel? I could listen to him talk all day
@chrishepburn1503
@chrishepburn1503 2 жыл бұрын
I smiled when Dan talked about the mid range in the BC108. I was trying to pinpoint why I liked that over the NKT275 and as soon as he said that it made sense. I've always liked a more mid focused guitar sound. That being said they both sound brilliant.
@victorbm3679
@victorbm3679 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm from Spain, and you don't know how much I needed this video, thank you very much. I've been so lost and didn't really know where to start.
@gnerd99
@gnerd99 2 жыл бұрын
This pedal has ‘mojo’ and mythology right off the bat. The mystery bag from George Tripps, the fabled transistors that Analogman ran out of and the ‘assembled by Markus Reeves’ cred. You’ve done it again boys!
@amalgamaudioLV
@amalgamaudioLV 2 жыл бұрын
That sg junior with the BC108... phenomenal... Best sound in this show!
@druwk
@druwk 2 жыл бұрын
Markus is such great builder. Been KZbin stalking his stuff for a while. I missed a couple of pre-order windows on his site, but I will get some of his stuff! Really looking forward to hearing his new Zo pedal?
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
So am I 😬😬 it's nearly finished 🔥🔥🔥
@davedavem
@davedavem 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching this wishing they had a PC fan on a pedal enclosure?
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!!
@brandonlesko3126
@brandonlesko3126 2 жыл бұрын
Pedal building is fun, frustrating, you'll burn yourself at least twice, and more than anything else: it is very addicting. Do make sure to have a fan running at all times to blow the flux smoke away. You do not want to inhale it.
@rkharper
@rkharper 2 жыл бұрын
Hasn't done me no harm kkk.. Kkkk. Kkkk.. What have I said?!
@cowbellstudios6326
@cowbellstudios6326 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should sell the caged fuzz face in a mini version as merch!
@gargantula3274
@gargantula3274 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see Marcus on the show. Between the acid etched enclosures and the point to point wiring, his pedals are somewhere between fine art and dark magic.
@cesarpicco6398
@cesarpicco6398 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love it when Markus makes it on to TPS! This episode is pure gold!
@willwetherington
@willwetherington 10 ай бұрын
Why the insolation on the leg of the transistors?
@noremacbeez
@noremacbeez 2 жыл бұрын
The vertical flush cut wire cutters that Markus was using at 18.20 are Knipex 7823125 Super snips if you want to buy them!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, thank you!
@gordonrankin3995
@gordonrankin3995 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, do note that this schematic was derived from the Tonebender 1.5 version. Some of the Germanium transistor FF used a 47K in both the feedback and in place of the 33K resistor. The willy nilly use of parts was one of the things that meant you had a good, bad or great FF. The Tonebender of course had a 5uF cap instead of the 2.2uF. The Q1 is biased pretty much at cutoff and it is what really creates the Fuzz sound. The Fuzz Face is really simple but the big problem is getting correctly matched transistors. For my Glass Packs I use Q1 hfe =~ 80 and Q2 hfe =~120. Sometimes kits will have pots to bias these to the exact amount of gain and bias. Markus, I use dual glasses as well :) hfe is the current gain of a transistors. I use the NPN Mullard Germanium OC140/950. I do this so I can use standard 9V+ supplies as PNP like the NKT275 require a positive ground, negative 9V. So most current germanium PNP pedals either use battery only or a voltage inverter IC. NKT275 on eBay are matched sets between $35 - $199 and again who knows what you are getting. When I went down this rabbit hole after the Macari episode I probably bought 60 before I found enough to build a couple FF/Tonebender v1.5s. Funny fixing a Focal powered monitor for a friend today... and yes had to take pics to remember where the wires went :) Great show guys!
@zeroamplification
@zeroamplification 2 жыл бұрын
OC140 are superb. Sadly any available NKT275 on ebay have not been genuine for years. Also sadly the ones featured in this part kit are also not genuine. Newmarket never printed horizontally with NKT and the part number 275 on the same line.
@corpse-in-orbit
@corpse-in-orbit 2 жыл бұрын
Markus Reeves seems like the nicest, most discerning bloke, and I'd love to see him just show up every so often and comment on whatever you guys are doing. Fascinating about the upper range of the silicon transistor - when I ordered a Sun Face with the BC 183, the first thing Mike Piera told me was that "most people like these with the fuzz a little below maximum. You'll see why."
@davidkenneth3983
@davidkenneth3983 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your appearance bro.!cool
@sexcultfriends9035
@sexcultfriends9035 2 жыл бұрын
Hells yes
@cass2771
@cass2771 2 жыл бұрын
Always a delight to see an expert in their field, to listen to what they have to say - even the bits said in passing are really good to hear. And to see how they avoid and (with respect) correct errors.
@jrchanning
@jrchanning 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode, I preferred the Copper Fuzz overall, Markus was a terrific guest 😄
@andersoncordeiro7447
@andersoncordeiro7447 Жыл бұрын
Watching "the master" building one of this, why shouldn't I!? Thanks for the inspiration of today! Greetings from 🇧🇷
@Adamhauk22
@Adamhauk22 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I wish I had something like this when I started getting into building amps n Pedals. Great stuff guys
@ncomeau
@ncomeau 2 жыл бұрын
Dan this a very important question....where do you get your hats?! I love your hat in this vid!! Cheers from a fellow purple belt ;p
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
OSS! Check out trendhim.com
@ncomeau
@ncomeau 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow Thank you! OSS!
@nmcgregor1990
@nmcgregor1990 8 ай бұрын
I Used to gig with that awesome dude! So happy to see Markus on one of my favourite KZbin channels 😁❤ His pedals are gorgeous too!
@alastairrae7752
@alastairrae7752 2 жыл бұрын
TPS is knocking it out of the park at the minute. The build of Dan's guitar was the most sublime documentary and this episode was fabulous too (but has left me infuriated that my kit Fuzz Face - with very similar components - sounds way inferior!). Thanks both and all the best for 2022!
@samwisegrangee
@samwisegrangee 2 жыл бұрын
Referring to these fuzz faces by their part names makes them sound like Star Wars droids: “BC108, recalibrate fuzz setting!”
@davedavem
@davedavem 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic play-throughs! The difference even between the two telecasters through them was amazing.
@ThePippin89
@ThePippin89 2 жыл бұрын
I've finally worked it out. I've been watching your videos for years and always thought Dan looked familiar. Finally I have figured out why! He looks like a miniature Brian Posehn!!!!
@BlakeC27
@BlakeC27 2 жыл бұрын
I love the massive sigh and answer from Markus when asked about why the NKT 275 is a favourite transistor for the Fuzz Face. Tradition.
@hq72hotmale
@hq72hotmale Жыл бұрын
The worst part about buying pedals from overseas is the exchange rate and postal I live in Australia I want a set off these hmm I'm.really gonna be out off pocket
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 7 ай бұрын
waw both sound great.
@thinkthirsty1305
@thinkthirsty1305 2 жыл бұрын
remarkable timing, gentlemen. I have just received a BYOC Silicon FF clone in the mail, which I plan to undertake this weekend. First time! If I electrocute or solder myself, know I went down with a heart full of pride.
@tommysserpents
@tommysserpents 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding a price point with the NKTs, I recently bought a FF style pedal with them and the pedal itself cost 550 pounds compared to the 185 that his other, non NKTs cost. Don't know if that tells anything about the cost of the actual transistors, but it sure tells something. It was a one off special edition thing so that might have bumped up the price as well. And for anyone who is curious, the brand is Fuzz Phonics
@spencerfreed6947
@spencerfreed6947 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks gents and Marcus!!! Been waiting for this episode since you got the kit...brilliant! And man, you guys have two new spectacular sounding fuzz pedals. Looking forward to your visit to Reeves Electro!! Happy new year and thanks for all you do to inspire!
@ryanbutler5381
@ryanbutler5381 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, been watching since the beginning and love you guys. For some reason this episode gave me an idea. Can you please do a video tour of your grounds there? It would be great to maybe see the outside of your building and other rooms you use for stuff. Just an idea.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
We might not do the complete tour with the outside and everything Ryan… but inside sure!
@hoboroadie4623
@hoboroadie4623 2 жыл бұрын
all right, I guess if there's a Zinc Chromate looking inside to the box, the pedal gets on the list. Gotta go check Markus' site to see what it does.
@petesansom5737
@petesansom5737 2 жыл бұрын
I finished building my first fuzz pedal after a few too many beers. The next day when I tested it I got no fuzz but a lot of smoke. :(
@darrenc8776
@darrenc8776 2 жыл бұрын
There's just something about Fuzz. Its like real ale some of us get it and love it others drink Carling.
@greentaichi
@greentaichi 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode guys. Thanks, as ever, for all your hard work. Btw, just been through the podcast back catalogue. Downloaded a bunch to listen to whilst doing housework. The first ever live VCQ is just over an hour long 😂 What was last week 2h45min! Leg ends indeed 🙂🙏
@BadMotivator66
@BadMotivator66 2 жыл бұрын
if the old pickups are back i Blue, doesn't that justify more strat vlogs? :D
@tmuka
@tmuka 2 жыл бұрын
the silicone fuzz face case looks like somebody shaved his mustache and beard! both sound great! really enjoyed the build and comparison
@mke7605
@mke7605 2 жыл бұрын
I created my first pedal last year, a treble booster pedal. It’s now on my board and sounds fantastic. It was a great learning project as well. I plan to make more in the future.
@Les537
@Les537 2 жыл бұрын
Warning. It will lead to building your own amp! :D
@mke7605
@mke7605 2 жыл бұрын
@@Les537 I’ll first try another pedal I guess 😃
@seanpatrickwatkins640
@seanpatrickwatkins640 2 жыл бұрын
Pure serendipitous coincidence, I put on my Reeves Electro t-shirt when I got up this morning. I just have to say I absolutely love my Black Hat Sound #57 and it's a joy to see you three together for a couple episodes!
@AncientMarinerYT
@AncientMarinerYT 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very pleased to wear my 'All You Need Is Fuzz' tee shirt. :-)
@bucket303
@bucket303 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry if it’s been answered, but what soldering station is it that Markus is using?
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
It's a quicko t12-952 super cheap from Ali express ..I do use genuine Hakko tips though.
@bucket303
@bucket303 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeveselectro Fantastic! Thank you!
@RiffHarvester
@RiffHarvester 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was Markus' 1500th follower on Instagram!
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother!!!
@S1ipperyJim
@S1ipperyJim 2 жыл бұрын
More like Markus Reeves builds a Fuzz Face with us 🤣
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Indeed.
@houseofshred3725
@houseofshred3725 2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Reeves putting on that second set of glasses is like Stallone turning his hat around in Over the Top.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@alanredversangel
@alanredversangel 2 жыл бұрын
I suddenly remembered i have a fuzz factory clone with ac128's in it that i never use so I'm about to build my first fuzz face using the trannies. This is good timing.
@boastatron3148
@boastatron3148 2 жыл бұрын
Fuzz factory: the fuzz face setting is volume wherever, gate and comp fully counter-clockwise, drive around noon or maybe a bit higher, and stab fully clockwise
@alanredversangel
@alanredversangel 2 жыл бұрын
@@boastatron3148 Yeah I've tried to get on with it for years. Just not my cup of tea in a band situation.
@boastatron3148
@boastatron3148 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanredversangel That pedal made me realise that simpler is better with fuzzes
@georgerobartes2008
@georgerobartes2008 2 жыл бұрын
I use perf board . Used it for 50 odd years for prototyping and finished product and what is now called the dead bug method of direct connection of components . As a kid I used copper pins on wood and use the system of 'bus bar' connection like this chap . Used to make Face Faces using old Ford hub caps in the day when wheels had metal hubcaps . I doubt if any of these survive . After collecting and breaking parts for 50 odd years I have all the rare Mullards etc that are supposed to make a difference . Old NARCO LOC LOR or radios would yield lots of parts and here in the UK were useless when past airworthiness . You could get lots of them from old aircraft instrument's, Hammond solid state organs that were given away to get rid of them etc . come complete with Acctronics tank and real Leslie sound . For 4558 etc., old milspec stuff would yield gold and sliver topped TI etc., quality that most people don't know exist . I had so many gold top 4558s I sold a tube on e Bay a few years ago and still have tubes of them and being milspec are all identical . The JRC doesn't come close . I like the RAY VIN 4558 too . Russian flying saucer Germaniums v Western Germaniums who will win ? Sadly not tested . You can piggyback cheap Russian germanium on new silicon transistors , but that is something for another show . Hfe means 'Hybrid parametric forward current gain , current emitter' for the answer no one gave . Its measurable on good multimeter's and useful to see if your transistor is close to spec ( UK Trivial Pursuit Champion 1987) . Think of the MM as a tube tester that says bad OK good and gives the figures you need for matching . Test a couple of BC108s , 212s , 549s whatever etc and they can be hugely different. If you go through your book of low power transistors ( LP types are the common type in pedals) it will have HFE in a column of ranges usually from say 50 to 500 and you have NPN and PNP complementary types whether made of silicon , Germanium , Gallium Arsenide or Chinesium . If you pick one that has similar frequencies , useable voltage , hFe etc., from any of the materials then your ear will confuse you a second after switching over . As its in the ear and brain , its up to you . The purpose is to select what you're voltage is most are over 9 volt so no problem , their gain etc and the hFe for matching ,as 2 same type unmatched will give an almost imperceptible difference in a circuit like this which you might think is down to material rather than how one transistor is driving the other . When you shove your transistor legs into a good tester 2 of the same type may read say 125 the other 175 . You have the same range in Germanium . The main difference (which is obvious in a glass Germanium diode) is a tiny internal connection . A transistor has just and extra leg in the mix . You can use these old germanium things as diodes for clipping circuits , just connect 2 legs , but I like the pink LEDs ! On something difficult like an ECU that controls gear shifting or fuel and ignition control which has a zillion components IGBTs etc., a PCB design is a must . Also make sure you don't feed in too much solder as a build up on the other side makes it a nightmare to remove if the component is duff or in the wrong place . Clean the flux off afterwards using IPA ( not India Pale Ale - drink that ! ) or other PCB cleaner as flux corrodes very quickly , especially in an atmosphere where beer , sweat and other bodily fluids end up on or close to your pedal board. Buy good wire strippers . The red Chinese ones are OK for teaching children. As the guy said its what you like personally that counts and if you like it , you will play better and your audience will like it .
@jt3483
@jt3483 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thought the NKT was more smooth and definitely had more bass. The BC108 sounded much more aggressive. I think overall, I liked the sound of the NKT more, but I could definitely see where the BC108 would shine. Great episode as always! Ps... Might be time for a Strat shootout again. Not to see which is best, but so we can learn about the differences between them and reasons for those differences potentially. Thought the new one sounded great, but Blue tamed some of the aggressiveness on the BC108, which was nice for me.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing more on the Strats soon. I really love the new gold one as a guitar (body, neck etc) but I’ve never loved these pickups (Texas Specials). Way too brash for my own personal tastes, which sort of concurs with your analysis. Let’s see!
@qddk9545
@qddk9545 Жыл бұрын
It is a very simple circuit, but there are a lot of ways to tune it, and a lot of ways to make it sound bad. The mentioned hfe (amplification factor) is one of them, and the relation of hfe on Q1 and Q2, (some people say 100 about for Q1 and 130 for Q2), the value of the input and output caps, and the bias of Q2. I would recommend new solder slingers to start with a kit with silk screen on the PCB, and a more ´reliable´ parts and circuit. You can not measure hfe on germanium transistors on a DMM with provision for measuring hfe, because of severe leak current, that only works for silicon transistors. You need the expensive meter that was used in this video (around £120). People often attach a PSU DC bushing, but the germanium one has + to ground, so you will destroy it if you use is with other pedals, and a PSU that does not have isolated outputs. The same thing is true for treble boosters.
@GiovanniBottaMuteWinter
@GiovanniBottaMuteWinter 2 жыл бұрын
As an amateur diy pedal builder and a TPS aficionado, this video was a double whammy of fun and pleasure for me! Thanks guys!
@mattelder9147
@mattelder9147 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome shirt Marcus
@justingreen8539
@justingreen8539 2 жыл бұрын
I built a germanium fuzz face while I watched this!
@67er_matze97
@67er_matze97 2 жыл бұрын
huge joy and inspiration to watch this episode. Kudos to Markus !! ..and you guys !!
@timchalmers1700
@timchalmers1700 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and instructive, as always !!
@BMitchell
@BMitchell 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Does my heart good to see them using Quality solder. Kester no clean!
@El_Snell
@El_Snell 2 жыл бұрын
Are they really the proper old nkt275 transistors though? Can't imagine Tripps would be throwing those around. Plenty of 'new' ones about.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
We talk about that….
@El_Snell
@El_Snell 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow Ah, soz. I'm only halfway through!
@arnolddealiii4259
@arnolddealiii4259 2 жыл бұрын
Man when they are both cranked they sound nearly identical, but when they are slightly back off on the fuzz that darkness of the BC108 sounds fantastic! For my moneys worth BC108 over an NKT275 overhyped transistor any day of the week!
@rkharper
@rkharper 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@vincet68
@vincet68 2 жыл бұрын
Maximum rebound! From acoustic gorgeousness to raw fuzz goodness - oh my, we are such lucky puppies 😎
@skullheadwater9839
@skullheadwater9839 8 ай бұрын
That's really weird, I am a valve amp builder and a negative feedback loop in a classic amp decreases gain. Also, that fuzz pot would be on a valve cathode and would adjust the bias, granted the upper resistors that he says biases the transistors does also assist in tube/valve bias. So similar but it is still odd that a negative feedback loop increases gain with transistors.
@bobthejohnsson
@bobthejohnsson 2 жыл бұрын
Duracel Plus battery? Isn’t these kind of batteries that Analogman is advising not to use with these types of fuzzes because of sound issues? Should be the cheapest non-alkaline ones right?
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah ...time was tight and we had to use what was at hand, the difference is pretty negligible though it was more about the A / B ing
@bobthejohnsson
@bobthejohnsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeveselectro and by all means: fantastic video!!!! Learned so much here, thanks for sharing your expertise!! It was more for me to validate if the info I had in my head, was still correct. Thanks a lot for your reply of course. Really appreciate it!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think we swapped them out because I remember running around trying to find my stash of zinc carbon jobs!
@bobthejohnsson
@bobthejohnsson 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow it sounded amazing!!!
@drbalchin1
@drbalchin1 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting since the Jeorge Tripps' show for this one!
@bristlefist
@bristlefist 2 ай бұрын
Nice video but is anyone else getting bored of fuzzface content? It feels like fuzz faces and tonebenders are the only fuzz circuits. To my ears they've become the most generic and therefore the least interesting to hear.
@NotBenCoultry
@NotBenCoultry 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone looking on tell me if replacing the 20uf cap with a 22 will be an issue? It's the one component I don't have a bunch of (or at least one, in the case of the 8.2K resistor)
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
You won't notice it at all
@NotBenCoultry
@NotBenCoultry 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeveselectro awesome thanks so much, I really didn't want to explode or anything
@reeveselectro
@reeveselectro 2 жыл бұрын
@@NotBenCoultry only with FUZZ!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@NotBenCoultry
@NotBenCoultry 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeveselectro YES lmao I can't wait - I have so many transistors I don't even know what to do with myself
@ianfreddy3804
@ianfreddy3804 2 жыл бұрын
I love how all the music is from a few weeks ago. Good Stuff Gents!!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian! Yeah, we now have our own incidental and background music. Ha!
@Finom1
@Finom1 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the manufacture of the blue capacitor? What make and type is it? Where can we buy them?
@noakwesterberg
@noakwesterberg 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have been longing to see some pedal building action on your channel.
@BigMateo24
@BigMateo24 2 жыл бұрын
This would have been a great opportunity to buy some sockets and use them for the diodes. That way you could have easily swapped in and out different diodes and experimented with the sound. Would have made for another cool episode where you take the same basic circuit and play with different germanium diodes, silicon and maybe even throw in some LED's.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 2 жыл бұрын
We may come to that in time…
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best episodes ever!! A huge delight to watch the whole process! Cheers, guys!!
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