We Finally Got Back to Mining and it's Super Easy Now! (Scrap Mechanic Co-op Ep.43)

Hey everyone back with more Scrap Mechanic Survival! Today Kosmo and I finally decided to do a mining episode as we are in desperate need of metal to build a ton of different things. Maybe it is because we haven't mined in a long time but for some reason mining in Scrap Mechanic is way easier than either of us remember it being... @darealkosmo
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[@masterblastoise]

I went back and looked at my old calculus notes a while ago and I was like "I understand none of this" lmao

[@nerffattu7909]

1 pine apple crate for 5 component kits would be great because pineapple can only be used to buy the spudling gun.

[@planetearth8044]

I'd say 10 component kits is a better price, maybe even more, as component kits can be gathered fairly fast, however tedious, and pineapples are tier 3 crops so they trigger huge waves and take a long time to grow

[@johnlepeska6477]

You can relatively easily grow 200 pineapples in 2 days with a decent beginner farm setup and a spudling gun minces redbots that's 20 crates or 100 kits in 2 days for minimal work. I feel personally that if anything it should be 2 kits or even 1 for a pineapple crate

[@nobpyxl5389]

@@johnlepeska6477 it would take tons of prep time to get all 200 pineapple seeds and defending from 2 raids while having to water the plants

[@lukepaterlini7396]

After rough times, these 2 fellas are here making my day

[@leaf821]

Hope you’re doing better

[@mofkarim]

You okay dude?

[@werner1]

As always, i can watch their videos multiple times.

[@Travinskie]

KanGaming got me through my 2 weeks with Covid lol kept my mind busy and entertained

[@Exoticz_On_Nokia]

Hope everything gets better

[@Grenadeo617]

What we need in this game is a handheld drill and saw. It would be a bit slower than the creation mounted ones but its just an idea

[@Donke267]

And other hammer upgrades/sidegrades. One specialized for bot killing. A chainsaw for trees. A drill for rocks. A corn on a stick for herding cows. A scythe for harvesting crops. And, of course, actual upgrades for the hammer that are more general purpose.

[@mammalianmolasses7092]

@@Donke267 I’d suggest checking out Fant mod, he has pretty much all of that. Also his channel 00Fant has tutorials on all of it.

[@Donke267]

@@mammalianmolasses7092 I saw that guy karma whoring on Reddit where he would release dev blogs for every line of code free wrote!

[@mammalianmolasses7092]

@@Donke267 huh? I think that was an insult but I genuinely have no clue what you meant to say.

[@AdroSlice]

There really isnt much to this game except build vehicles though. If you add a method to farm resources reasonably without the use of a vehicle, youre disincentivizing the only thing making your game remotely interesting. Obviously that wouldnt be a problem if there was more game-mechanical content...

[@julianlevash3581]

You should put little auto turrets on your farm every ten blocks or so that scan and fire when they senses a bot. Also with the bed situation they should make it so you have to clean your bed.

[@THESLlCK]

Expensive IMO. Just use one gun on a repeater that auto aims

[@botzmyth]

I have a few of those on my farm and I love them😉

[@orangespuddy7118]

I have a water cannon on my farm that slides across a rail and just sprays, it works ok-ish, but I only have one

[@midrealmdm9016]

How do you set it up so that it senses a bot? (as opposed to just sensing anything?, wok, player, vehicle, etc.)

[@THESLlCK]

@@midrealmdm9016 can't. Nothing in the game to do that

[@bradShank]

30+ minute scrap mechanic videos are such a source of serotonin

[@troyt6532]

If you guys run out of ideas, make an arm or something for the zamboni that can pick up the bobcat and haul it along.

[@Retrodogo]

LOVE THAT IDEA

[@malice6081]

Yes

[@Shadow__X]

When the devs do the rotting food thing, they also have to implement it into the cookbot, so that very rotten vegetables don't make a perfectly fresh burger

[@coffeedude1468]

Maybe they could also make compost like: Rotten food -> craftbot -> compost And then make fertilizer out of it Compost -> craftbot -> fertilizer This would make fertilizer easier to get, make rotten food have a purpose and make farming more interesting

[@kirowashere9661]

Im pretty sure they wont make the rotting food thing, here is the snippet from the developer Q&A: Q: The presence of the fridge, being unique for only containing food items, implies that food will be perishable later in development. Is this true? A: No, this was never the plan. We will not make the food go old. However, we do have other plans for the fridge. More on that later.

[@Mr_Reaps25]

@@coffeedude1468 yes, and maybe it will be a different fertilizer that is better

[@werner1]

@@coffeedude1468 But then I want them to add a freezer to the game, most of us have frozen veggies, and then the wok milk? I've stockpiled some!

[@coffeedude1468]

Maybe they could add a composter bot witch just makes compost from regular food like: Food -> compster -> fertilizer

[@mammalianmolasses7092]

26:33 as an 18 year old working in a lumberyard driving forklifts, I can confirm that this is 100% accurate. I have a coworker who will slam on the brakes to launch pieces of lumber into racks from five feet away. (I never got the hang of that). Basically safety regulations are not a thing and it’s terrifying.

[@ericrhoades8988]

Storytime with Kan & Kosmo! Such a fun episode.

[@zabbapow9958]

Crazy idea you know how you built the crop harvesting vehicles? As much I like the little forklift miner why not put the drill bits on the front of the zamboni? Then it's all in one you can even build another vehicle that does the same thing.

[@paulfloof9124]

A larger vehicle like that will bottom out on hills and will take longer to accelerate forward toward more stuff to drill, and I've personally noticed the drills mine slower on large creations

[@patrickhector]

You can slow down the watering system by pulsing the pistons on and off, that way you should be able to make it reliable to be automated

[@BizzaroHunter]

Or he could just set the pistons up to push in series rather than simultaneously

[@alarkhar]

The autobots of old times said "Transform and roll out." Can't remember what the ones from the Bay movies said, because the second movie pissed me off big time so I didn't see the sequels (Bucktoothed yokelbots? A minicon that humps legs? An old, farting decepticon? Devastator with a scrotum? Yeah, I bailed.)

[@vilhelmstorm9880]

12:36 Aah, good old 8 fps. I remeber 3 years ago when i had a crappy computer that gave me a maximum of 20 fps in scrap mechanic!😄

[@michael1235654]

Just binge watched this whole series absolutely loving it

[@midrealmdm9016]

12:50 - I suggest keeping some explosives on-hand in your mining vehicle to get those pesky underground bits. Maybe not as effective as a drill motor... but it's explosives!

[@VAXHeadroom]

I started building satellites in 1996. Best job ever. Always challenging, an infinite amount to learn, work with some of the smartest people on the planet. Currently working on 5 different satellite power systems. You haven't lived until you've run a ion thruster on code you wrote :) (Best known thing I worked on was the LCROSS satellite that 'bombed the moon' in 2009 - I was the lead flight software engineer)

[@stanislaw.wokulski_]

Kan, when you will upgrade your base you should upgrade the launcher to another tree. Here is an idea: put 2 sets of sensors on the back wall and one of them is full distance and other the distance from the wall and the launcher and set the logic gates to work only when the “long” sensor see a player so the launcher will start but when both sensors see the player it won’t work so you can walk by the launcher and not turning it on. Sorry if I said something wrong

[@propitious.]

TLDR: use two sensors, make one have long distance, one short. the long one will make the launcher go, but if the short one is on then it wont. (using a nand gate)

[@lighttank3905]

*This is a certified hood classic*

[@THESLlCK]

*This is less than an hour old* *certified future hood classic

[@Simply_Pip]

@@THESLlCK its 4 hours old *certified hood classic*

[@flamsxriderno-e4530]

Just wondering would a robotics student have an easier time learning to develop a game or would a game dev have an easier time learning robotics?

[@averageaviator763]

I work as a manufacturer of automated assembly line structures and robotics are fairly complex I don't know about coding as I simply construct the machines

[@David-ts8zn]

@@averageaviator763 I think making a game is harder cus updates

[@memyselfandie7931]

Yes, both include lots of programming. The language might be different but the concepts carry over significantly.

[@David-ts8zn]

@@memyselfandie7931 also computing is very hard especially hardware

[@random5064]

Yes

[@Marten_Zeug]

4:08 That's a cool Bobcat!

[@soulfire_shardmc6527]

Kan: struggles at 8 fps Me: happly plays on my potato pc with 5 fps that crashes when i spawn creations

[@cockadoodledoostudios2778]

I think the term kosmo is talking about is “desire paths”

[@kregus2701]

I'd always heard them called "convenience paths"

[@Hadeks_Marow]

Fridge expiring not happing was in the most RECENT Q&A. . . however, they did say they have SOME future plans with the fridge beyond food expiring.

[@justaguycalledjosh]

I'd appreciate a "Chilled Food" bonus to stuff like fruit. Like 5 mins in a fridge will make it chilled, which improves its stats.

[@tetronaut88]

10:20 I was LITERALLY doing my maths homework lol

[@henilminjarola2186]

you guys should do something like big truck or something which breaks, grind and refine the whole node at all same time what you have is just drive the truck on the top the node with up and than put the pistons down and wait till it finish the node put like six refiners a bunch collectors and a whole lot of drills at the the bottom of the truck

[@John-yo7kh]

32:10 i disagree once i got my farmbot killer going component kits where never a problem anymore, i just had to figure out their spawn location and kill them once every 48 minutes(seems like they respawn every second day or so unless they glitched and respawned as fast i got out of a chunk). BAAM 30+ component kits each run and its basically free to kill them as-well using a friction machine. you could even go and farm some towers in the meantime (if you find a good tower that gives you alot of component it will continue doing so once respawned)

[@tychus7]

Sooo happy

[@midrealmdm9016]

16:08 - I always have a better experience mining on relatively level ground. You don't have to fight slipping tires, etc. I can't say that is what is happening here. But it might be.

[@crucialbigmac7493]

I love the engineering/ robotics stories since that’s what I wanna do in collage . Please more 😁

[@arcvros_gaming]

You should add multiples automated saws and drills around the farm fence for defense against the bots for the upcoming raids.

[@solomon135f5]

These guys makes my day 1 billion times better

[@finnk1289]

6:13 Urbanist here, they're called "desire lines" :)

[@nyscersul42]

Great mid mining convo, the math stuff hehe

[@pumbaboi6056]

Did you know, if you use your hammer breaking the rocks before the rods, it will lower the chance to get metal and boost the chance of getting stone

[@watermelonbleach]

make a giant totem pole out of the totebot heads

[@SAR-1346]

A “totebot “ pole?

[@malice6081]

On the topic of bobcats, ice seen them do endos with the blade being used to level areas.

[@luv0ne]

This week in Scrap mechanic, kan and Kosmo discuss their mid-life crisis while getting metel.

[@DeWorDeR]

if i would make miner i just do it like it hugs those stones and crushes them while hugging :D Like a bearhug u know ? Two moving hands 1 per side and like 5 drills per hand, make those drills with small spring to everyone so they can move a bit when hitting stones and yeaa

[@squish_nerd]

Man this whole series is just a really funny podcast about their lives just while they are playing scrap mechanic.

[@Gwall-dd5fz]

Kan, trust me, hop in a skidder and you will completely understand those teenagers

[@chickenfeet8558]

As a teen, I had to level my yard in a skid steer, the most fun thing I've done in a while

[@spicytaco6284]

I think it would be pretty cool to see a semi truck but the trailer is full of collectors and the 2 refiners in the middle or somewhere in the trailer

[@CanReis1456]

hey kAN I remember that Scrapman in one of his videos(it was something like tips for new players) said make the fences horizantal not vertical it keeps your crops more safe. just for throwing out there :D

[@memeberfunk2731]

21:40 definition of old school runescape

[@mr.byggeee2226]

Just watched redbot mining vid. You should make a big rectangular cage he can run back and forth in and just drop alot of resources inside for him to run over(eg wood)

[@RestartedRio]

I made a tank steering miner in creative and it uses buttons for movement but it uses wasd to move the drills up and down and tilt it

[@aMannus1]

Hey kan, have you ever looked into changing the actual light values for nighttime in the game files? It's really easy to do, and while it can be considered cheaty, I think it's worth it for the better viewing experience (and it saves future kan time). Open the survival_constants.lua file in "Scrap Mechanic\Survival\Scripts\game" with notepad or something and search for the line with the DAYLIGHT_LIGHTING_VALUES property. Replace that entire line with this: DAYCYCLE_LIGHTING_VALUES = { 0.1, 0.2, 0.5, 0.5, 0.2, 0.1 } This just changes how "dark" nighttime actually gets and should be a whole lot more bearable to look at. You can change the values to change how dark it actually gets (nighttime normally is 0 for reference).

[@Illogical.]

Huh. This actually looks qute nice. I guess I'll find episode 1 and start watching.

[@lucylombard9097]

You should make a flyer with a sissor lift on both sides of a platform connected to carry fruit crates to the trader p.s what happens to the farmers when you turn them in.

[@comrade1268]

congrats on 350k!

[@tmjgaming9880]

The crafting time equation is x÷2+1 for the upgraded Craftbot.

[@EricLinstone]

Just make an all in 1 vehicle. I have one with saws and drills. It's got 2 collectors and 1 refinery. I've yet to have it overflow. The problem is you guys make a massive field of logs and THEN go try and pick them all up. If you are collecting as you are making them, the refinery bot can keep up.

[@Thors_Son_Gaming]

Another add on to the food losing its freshness over time you could possibly use the fridge to make that last longer

[@creator1089]

You should build a construction pickup with chests on the sides and a trailer for the mining equipment

[@azman1271]

I dont know why but these video is very relaxing to me

[@glennmontesant9271]

11:00 just discussing how useless school is

[@De_Lus]

A desire path (often referred to as a desire line in transportation planning, and also known as a game trail, social trail, fishermen trail, herd path, cow path, elephant path, goat track, pig trail, use trail, and bootleg trail)

[@imaflyinturkey9775]

we call them deer trails

[@De_Lus]

@@imaflyinturkey9775 yeah seems like a lot of names for it

[@j-j-jingles4797]

Hey kAN. Usually the track and field events take place on the second half of the Olympics, and the cycling, swimming, rowing, and ball games (hockey, rugby, football, ect) take place in the 1st half.

[@ETG168]

You need to use all the tote bot heads for a giant Tote-Em Pole to scare them off

[@cnote2178]

Kan can you make a video tutorial on the bobcat you made, and maybe a series on hot to use some of the logic. I have just recently started playing scrap mechanic and have a base understanding of how logic works I took a digital electronics class in high school. But learning how to use it really well for scrap mechanic would be nice

[@kovalankalamohan2318]

You should put turrets on the farm, so on one edge put it on each side looking to the other side and make a button that turns it on so wait for the bots to come up to the fence then turn it on to kill them. Edit: I hope that made sense

[@mihneababanu4224]

my theory is that chests have a small pocket dimension inside or they shrink the items to fit perfectly depending on the other items

[@lordducky3473]

Just got the discord notification and now i exist!

[@ZanderZuber]

Watching this at times 2 speed is just hilarious

[@thetyranids3923]

I think 1 collector can feed 2 refine bots so place 1 on either side so in total your gonna have 4 refine bots refining

[@zionjarman3610]

When he was spinning around it looks like when mater was doing donuts in the dark when he was showing off his backwards driving

[@Beregorn88]

Programming robots and spaghetti code: did you use labview, by any chance?

[@scp-049]

If they made Refineries upgradable, it would be cool if you could increase the efficiency of it refining materials, so it gives you even more of an incentive to make them and upgrade them. Perhaps it could increase yield by 1-2 per upgrade after a certain point, or just have it increase yield by 10-15 at the final upgrade. The cost would probably be pretty high in component kits, since it would be pretty powerful to get more materials

[@MegaMacX]

Scrap Mechanic got a lot of little issues in scaling that makes advanced mining / deforesting difficult. One is the size of collectors. There are no variants to it, just the old rectangular shape. Also there is no way to transport the sticks from one collector to another, which means the refinery always have to be in reaching range of the collector, which to be fair is pretty small for the size of the items. You cant even put 2 collectors in front of a refinery or the second collector is out of reach. For me, to make Mining in Scrap Mechanic more managable, you should be able to get other shapes of ressource collectors and / or give them some way of transporting the sticks from one to another, maybe some kind of "eject-mode", so one stick is released and the collector stops collecting for a short time (maybe via button presses), so another collector can collect the ejected stick to make some kind of conveyor-system with those sticks to bring them to a relay of refinerys. I once designed a mining machine that was able to mine a node on its own, but the size was not really suitable for scrap mechanic. IIRC it was basicly a U shape made out of 20 ore collectorsor so, on which every 2 was one refinery and the output was run to a box and i had to connect all boxes via tubes and use the boxes basicly as a T-Junction. I wasnt able to make this thing move in any way because it got so heavy that i didnt had the surface area to put enough wheels underneath it and it was before the oil-pond update, so fuel would've been a big issue. So yeah, all in all, i wish there would be more shapes for the big machines to fit them in my creations, especially the ore collectors. Maybe a 1x6x8 Collector for a start would be nice.

[@8-7-styx94]

Kan:"New Game breaking mechanic!" Me: Fear the wrath of Kan... =P

[@G3N0C1D3R]

Hi i love ur vids i watch u for 2-3 years

[@midrealmdm9016]

25:10 - Correct, the Devs said they did not plan to make food expire, but they did have a plan for the refrigerators to have some functionality.

[@suikerstaafje7]

With lag , the drill and sawblades has way less hitpoint detection.

[@paganathiest6349]

me at 21:19, confusing 64 killabytes with 64 terabytes and being like that would be absolute hell for any computer to render

[@SSZaris]

The term Kosmo was looking for is "As the crow flies"

[@generalgod4326]

The big rocks you cant break with a hammer surround your bace with the big rocks now u have big red defense Idk if this will work

[@draesoul4798]

Has anyone tried like a dragonfly build where its able to pick up things like the zambonie (idk how to spell) so it can transport it through the air? U could make it transport bots in cages too

[@jeremyprouty3789]

Kan i wish the general public appreciated intellectuals more because you deserve more subs and viewers that you have.... anyway long time watcher and keep up the awesome work my friend

[@guillermoelnino]

i too had to increase the gamma when i was little so i was no longer afraid of the dark.

[@15inches23]

A few days ago you were at like 346,000 subs and Now 350,000 subs also great thing that they made mining easier. I don't play the game i wish I did

[@savacusi2451]

Why cant u play game is it because u dont have pc or no money to buy game

[@15inches23]

Sorry it has been a week and yes I have no pc

[@Mazren_]

Hey kan, 350k congrats

[@kaot1k]

Just found you today and I’m already addicted

[@1986Prototype]

Fant mod have speed upgrades for the machines 🙂

[@gunship519]

To get around darkness while playing at your bace would be lights

[@soldout9031]

That's your totebot collection... *sigh* rookie numbers there. I got half of a sleeping pod at a mechanic station full of heads.

[@cydthemagi]

They could have a Cot, where it is cheaper to make but only 3 respawns, make it look like the scrap seat

[@donwanthemagicma]

When you started talking about Spaghetti code it reminded me of League of legends

[@djcrabby2101]

You should put spud guns at the bottom of your farm fence so you can kill bots faster

[@Just_an_aussie]

You really only notice how much material you use when your in survival

[@PUDRETE919]

6:20 The term is called desire paths

[@ryanmoore49]

We need a tutorial on the bobcat I'm new to scrap mechanic you and kosmo are the reason I bought it I thought the bobcat was amazing and after hours I still can't get it right I would love to see a tutorial.

[@jakegalloway9932]

Should put pistons on the bobcat to extend the arms

[@DeWorDeR]

do you use advanced physics when u play? I personally use number 6 nowdays as it makes that lag much better. It fucks up bearings a bit, but yea i hate lag. My base is huge i have 1fps on advanced :DDDDD

[@Belnivek]

Pretty sure it is "Autobots transform and roll out".

[@UthacalthingTymbrimi]

Scrap Mechanic on 64Kb would be a text adventure: > mine rock With what? > mine rock with sledgehammer You attempt to mine the rock. It is too big for your sledgehammer.

[@h3omurphy163]

Itd be cool just to upgrade your main vehicles

[@DoubsGaming]

just make is so beds can't be placed on vehicles, that essentially stops people from respawning right where they died unless they get creative. and maybe don't let people place beds everywhere either.

[@ther3dranger930]

They should make a siren that they put on a timer and I tgoes off at the raid time and would turn with big red lights on top and then use totebot for the siren

[@mohdnazimrosli8535]

Built the giant mech vehicle to mulch down the whole stone/iron node!!! i would pay to see that!

[@stunnnsemeraldalt]

Noice