We Found Every Single Eurovision Rock Song From the Past 31 Years

[@pianobycamila]

Is this the best KZbin channel? I guess so

[@wesleyhunt7599]

Surprised "Viszlát Nyár" didn't make the Top 10. That song makes "Hard Rock Hallelujah" sound like Brahms' Lullaby.

[@ben1468]

I guess maybe the argument could be made that it's metal not rock. I wouldn't make that argument, but some people could

[@trildi]

Agreed. I wonder what place it ended up in.

[@wesleyhunt7599]

According to the spreadsheet 13th. Though it got a score of .967, so it was almost uncontrovertably a rock song.

[@barnabasmike4318]

I was about to ask the same but yeah, I think it's the heaviest tune in the history of the contest.

[@najrenchelf2751]

Is there a world where that was in 11th place, I wonder...

[@aitorgarcia1092]

I've worked in surveys, data analysis and socio-demography for years now and yet, this is the most relevant study for me that i've been parte of ❤ Currently I'm pretty bussy but when I'm more available I'll try to run some additional analysis 👀👀

[@overthinkingit]

Cool! Email me at belinkie at overthinkingit dot com and I can share more stuff with you.

[@schnitzelsemmel]

we're all a bit bussy aren't we

[@hesrobinson]

I was thinking a Wilcoxon test might be useful for looking at difference in the distribution of points rather than just the means. From that box plot and the outliers I strongly suspect we'll get a significant difference in that kind of test.

[@quaithe1]

I'm surprised you didn't verify that rock has a jury score handicap vs audience score, because I'd bet good money on that.

[@overthinkingit]

Oooh, good idea! Will maybe come back to that question.

[@bsev1232]

I like how 3 out of 4 rock song from moldova are just zdob si zdub

[@trildi]

Folk rock par excellance!

[@dusan2667]

You just have to appreciate stuff ESC community can do

[@LeafHuntress]

At 11:00 you guys take the time to dis Bulgaria, but completely miss that ANDORRA MADE IT TO THE TOP TEN!!!!!!! *finally*

[@clionaduwe6427]

It would be great to put together a playlist of the top rock songs to go with this video ❤

[@eurotwink9740]

“Can any song that features a pan flute ever be considered rock?” Hello, Stairway to Heaven calling.

[@MBelinkie]

This is a VERY good point.

[@BillHFA]

OH MY! lol

[@idraote]

There's a bunch of enraged "rock-lovers" ad "experts" here in Italy that deny Maneskin the status of "rock band". Apparently there's a vital distinction not to be missed between bad rock - which doesn't count as rock - and true, good rock - usually the one those experts listen to in their free time.

[@josephaugustinerhodenhiser1353]

I've been waiting for this video. Yes, Euro Neuro is a rock song!

[@aprilhoy4010]

I love it when y'all do quantitative pop culture analysis! I wonder if the heavy representation of really recent songs in the top ten most rock has anything to do with how readily people can call the details of the song to mind. If a song is recent enough for me to mentally replay it in my head with some accuracy, I may be more likely to notice the snarly guitars, intense vocals, and drums. If its old enough me to basically remember themes and melodies, the specific genre elements may stand out less. Drift in definitions of genre seems like a good hypothesis too, though. As someone who listens to more contemporary metal than the average person, I think classic metal basically just sounds like rock.

[@anyrija.]

can any brave soul make a spotify playlist of all these rock songs. i would love them for the rest of my life if they did

[@the.time.crystal]

as someone who's favourite year is 2007 and is a huge rock and metal fan.... i feel like it was a long time coming lmfao also your final point about rock in the 90s and modern rock is super interesting! because maybe this also portrays how we all thought of bands as having to play rock back then, even if it wasn't rock? or that "lighter" or more poppy rock genres are being phased out for heavier sounds at the moment? who knows, but this was a very interesting project to be apart of!

[@Pavlinka__]

That was definitely interesting point. I personally always had a tough time telling rock apart from pop but for me I think it was influenced by my parents, because I only ever listen to what they listen to and my dad is a metalhead I suppose, so I only ever consider rock songs if they have some classic metal kinda undertones... but then I can't really tell metal apart from rock unless its a black metal, idk, music is hard, whoever came up with the idea of genres?? don't like you! In my word there's only songs I woo to, and songs I boo to. Although I suppose that would be hard to list on spotify.

[@ardhisyaifuddin4966]

Official ESC Channel should make a compilation, like they did with Dance Anthems and Love Songs, based on this list.😜

[@GuitarRhiger1]

this is absolutely fantastic content, tank you

[@goingDutchn0n13]

Eurovision brought me here, my geeky heart kept me here! What a great channel!

[@volatilelion657]

2:40 or somthing. I love thinking about Foreigner's 1984 hit song "I want to know what rock is"

[@robinisomaa]

The rock/metal question is an interesting one. While you can't have a pan flute solo in a rock song, you can definitely have that in a metal song. Metal also overlaps with other genres in different ways than rock. For example, the folk/techno song "Shum" (Ukraine 2021), which was not considered rock in your survey, has a lot of metal sensibilities.

[@barnabasmike4318]

True, just look at bands like Feuerschwanz or Eluveitie 😅

[@robinisomaa]

@@barnabasmike4318 So, what did you think about "Bastard von Asgard"?

[@sofiJa1363]

an amazing survey, i enjoyed participating in it :) i witnessed both victories of Lordi and Maneskin, it's history! :D

[@emmamcmeeken7734]

Those surveys were a lot of fun.

[@CookieFonster]

fascinating video! i love when people pick apart music in such detail.

[@EdwardConnors]

the ironic thing is your video from january was tagged as music and added to my youtube music playlists! lol

[@bobomeal]

@overthinkingit Matt is great as usual, but... I think that we should ask sympho-rock musicians if rock can be played on pan flute 😏

[@Thedrakefenlon]

Where’s the love for the Turkish ska jam For Real by Athena?

[@KrisQaj]

Oh nice one, could you also share the list with all the genres?! in my book Anna Vissi's Song is definately a rock song. This year's "We are one" listed as rock threw me off though x)

[@edmundtory6931]

How I love this channel!

[@DraganKrstic]

First proper rock, albeit progressive rock, song on ESC would be Yugoslavia's "Moja Generacija" by Korni Grupa from 1974.

[@CasualUmami]

Some results are absolutely remarkable like Austria 2003 being considered a rock song.

[@overthinkingit]

Yup, 98 to 91. Democracy.

[@heyy13]

It's here!

[@heyy13]

Intention was an awful song, but the performers were excellent live.

[@zigurdur92]

But was that song better than In My Dreams ?

[@EmoBearRights]

There are many artists that are better than the songs they got lumbered with at the ESC - rock and non rock alike.

[@rexation8952]

Agreed...they did not qualify, but given the show and performance they put on, they should have IMO!!!

[@heyy13]

@@EmoBearRights Well said.

[@oekmama]

You also have to consider how countries choose songs to send: if their local viewers choose or how the public broadcasters choose which songs they present to their viewers. Chris Harms from Germany‘s Lord of the Lost mentioned in an interview that the public broadcaster NDR opened up the genre „gate“ from pop (aka „suitable for radio“) this year. That’s after quite a few years of barely phoning it in after Lena‘s big win…

[@lhmo109]

I have a question. what is the most underrated genre in Eurovision? I reckoned it might be hip hop, or reggae, but there might be other genres i might not be aware of

[@bradleyhill7615]

Flamenco has never scored very well, and it’s not commonly performed because of it. Maybe Spain can turn that around this year?

[@trildi]

R&B would make it to the top 5.

[@lhmo109]

@@bradleyhill7615 has there been another flamenco entry previously? i am not aware

[@LeafHuntress]

@@lhmo109 Yes. Spain has sent at least one earlier 'Maneja mi barca'. The singer danced barefoot because the stage director did not approve of her dress & dress/shoes combo. She came last i think. Totally undeserved.

[@tamalhb]

​@@bradleyhill7615 not quite 😅

[@WelshBathBoy]

Love Shine a light is clearly a rock song!

[@trildi]

Another amazing video, I support you by liking them all! 😁 Ahem... however... Love Shine a Light did not sound like rock to anyone following modern music or rock in the 90s. I mean we had everything from Metallica to Green Day to Nirvana to Bon Jovi, and Love Shine a Light was still pop then and is still pop now.

[@overthinkingit]

I guess that's true. It's funny, I was there, listening to all those bands, but I still look back and get confused about what it was really like. It's sometimes hard to see the water you're swimming in.

[@igortirkajla8042]

RE: Pan's flute - I'd count El pasa di condor by Simon and Garfunkel as a (soft) rock song

[@theinvincible316]

Were the possible entries from 2020 not up for consideration? I noticed that year was skipped on one of the charts. Then again, I looked through the list just now, and I’m not sure a single one of those songs qualified as rock. Maybe Belgium, but even that’s a stretch.

[@overthinkingit]

Yeah we didn't include 2020 since technically 2020 never happened, but if we did it again we probably would have put those songs in.

[@Roxannah79]

I'm highly convinced that Wig Wam's "In My Dreams" in 2005 helped pave the way for Lordi's participation the following year.

[@oonanas6507]

Naah. We’ve been trying to send good rock/heavy to the ESC since before 2000’s. We almost sent (landslide of televotes) Nightwish in 2000, but then our conservative judges fucked it all up 🤦🏻‍♀️ that woulda been amazing 💔

[@olyaskulovich7996]

If the video casually mentions p-value, can I love you even more? 😊

[@AureWaxman]

Beautiful video. I think the peaks you see are also because rock music was in fashion (Linkin Park and Evanescence in the 00s, Olivia Rodrigo and Machine Gun Kelly now).

[@soul4speech]

I'm surprised Wig Wam's "In My Dreams" were glossed over here. Lordi mentioned them as an inspiration to enter Eurovision after all.

[@pupstarproduction15]

What about " let me be the one" from the shadows. Is that not rock win

[@rutholdfield3679]

HEY!!! I signed up for your discord and EVERYTHING and I've been watching Eurovision since 1973 ... so HOW do I get on your survey list??? I'm a British-born Aussie who loves to rock! DEEPLY HURT! (AND I speak multiple languages AND have sent a song to ESC from a UK record companyi!!! :(

[@overthinkingit]

The surveys were part of earlier videos we posted. As for the Discord, if you didn't get an invite email me at belinkie at overthinkingit dot com and I'll take care of you.

[@davidwassink9501]

Zero Gravity may not BE Rock... But it still ROCKS, no matter what any poll says. :)

[@algrave]

As a disturbing person in the 604, I’m happy to have been assistance!

[@pascalepalaces]

i will admit that i did not read that disclaimer about not needing to evaluate every song

[@stekra3159]

Can we keep undating the suvey next year

[@stefankostic5553]

Can we expand this for 2024 songs? :)

[@mpappas]

As someone who answered every prompt of every form....I swear I'm not a degenerate.

[@zigurdur92]

Wig Wam In My Dreams not in top ten of being most rock song of Eurovision. Wow

[@irene6119]

Exactly. What's wrong with people's ears (to my knowledge and interpretation of what rock is it's the first hard rock song in esc)

[@overthinkingit]

I just checked and Wig Wam is #16, right behind "Time" (Ukraine 2017). I think the issue may be that glam has some of that polished, easy on the ears pop charm.

[@irene6119]

@@overthinkingit I can see why hardcore metalheads wouldn't consider this rock but it just feels a bit absurd. I'm a metalhead and I still see In My Dreams as hard rock. Wig Wam is considered as a hard rock/glam metal band on wikipedia, but I guess this song was one of their least heavy songs

[@jordywoody14]

​@@overthinkingitWhere is Albania from 2018? Mall was my favourite song from that year.

[@sunshinemarmot7070]

I know I'm a year late but, it's not my fault, i simply didn't stumble into this channel before this year Anyway, the fact that Georgia 2014 Shin & Mariko - Three Minutes to Earth wasn't up for survey is wild to me. Going by the general survey results I reckon it wouldn't have reached the 50% threshold on account of having a fairly soft touch, but objectively, that's a progressive rock song. Honestly the reason that song feels so weird in general is that prog songs like it generally use 6-10 minutes at least to work through all the shifts they want to do and that one crams itself into three minutes. Still rock as hell though

[@sunshinemarmot7070]

yo you didn't survey Slovenia 1993??? Why?

[@Kiymaro]

Im gonna argue with the songs that are the most rock like at the end with Viszlát Nyár. Its a metalcore song and the current heaviest esc song.

[@Aprill264]

Looking at the data, I find it quite surprising that Azerbaijan 2023 was considered rock, and that there was no survey on Denmark 2018.

[@Eva-mp7xg]

Thank you Finland, please keep on sending Rock! 💙🤍💙

[@lexezlao]

kind of annoying but understandable that the countries at the top of the leaderboard are the most recent/popular rock entries, because there is no way promise is more rock than mala dama or dont close your eyes at least salvem el mon was there also 2005 and 2009 also had a decent amount of rock entries

[@Gea2222]

Korni grupa, 1974. from YU best prog rock song

[@xfreja]

måneskin are just amazing. zitti e buoni will forever be a masterpiece

[@eso4286]

I’m exited I think my nomination of Belgium 2021 made it as rock at .515 🙂👍

[@Rafaelinux]

Average rank for rock songs?

[@ComoEnBoticaVzla]

No esperaría que ChaChaCha fuera una canción calificada como rock, cuando tiene esa base musical, pero es sólo mi opinión... I wouldn't expect ChaChaCha to be a rock song, when it has that musical base, but that's just my opinion...

[@wandaengqvist9066]

Wait where tf is Wig Wam? You can’t be the best and campest 80s- nostalgia hard rock band there is, come 9th in the Eurovision - 05 with a classic such as ”In My Dreams” , then have another of your songs be the theme of the best superhero show in almost a decade (Peacemaker), only for Overthinking Things to completely forget you 😅

[@overthinkingit]

Hey man, this has nothing to do with us, this was all public voting! We love Wig Wam!

[@dirofreak]

so now we know that Everything is the limit between rock and not rock :) (funnily enough i voted Everything as rock and the Taxi song as not rock :p)

[@lighthouse620]

Why do so many people think Aija isn’t a rock song??

[@nsomandin5342]

Oke but why did yall vote on this year's song so much. To me only Australia, San Marino, Finland and Germany are rock songs lmao

[@RockiesCanada]

There are definitely some more. Slovenia's is pretty clearly indie rock with some dance-punk influence, it basically sounds like Two Door Cinema Club mixed with Walk The Moon. Latvia is sort of alternative rock like Radiohead Romania is sorta a bluesy take on pop rock Mama SC is kinda avant garde pop rock Azerbaijan and Ireland are also pop rock

[@irene6119]

​@@RockiesCanada I wouldn't count Azerbaijan and Ireland since they are more pop imo. But agree on the rest

[@deniseribeirodesouza6196]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@pirukiddingme1908]

Wanna know what genre really does bad? Rap. Or reggae. I look forward to the firestorm that may erupt because of this

[@SVUfannyc]

Lol 1:41

[@hippopotamusbosch]

☝️ You missed one. Just kidding. 😋

[@dliessmgg]

people in the 90s saw the katrina & the waves song as rock? counter argument: nirvana

[@rocketpants785]

Konstrakta is punk, change my mind