We Give Awards To Magic Sets | The MTG Mythic Awards

Which set has the highest mana value? Which has the highest power? Most bears? Least murders? Come find out!
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[@mikotagayuna8494]

Regarding Mind Shatter, it actually depicts a murder. A murder of crows is a group of crows.

[@kaszael]

-Hmm, Homer I'm very uncomfortable having a gang of crows in our bedroom. -It's a murder, honey. A group of crows is called a murder. Who said TV can't teach you stuff?

[@AwkwardDreamer]

I came here for this comment lol XD Unless it's Ravens, then it's an unkindness. But I like to believe it's a murder :)

[@samsprague3158]

Damn, got em.

[@freewilly1193]

​@AwkwardDreamer an unkindness of ravens is truly one of the greatest terms for a group of a particular species.

[@spookyhogan]

I was SUPER disappointed with March of the Machines Aftermath, I was looking forwards to a flavour filled story set that showed how the worlds had changed, even if it was to be really small, but it just wasn't what Wizards said it would be

[@andrewmcdonald5108]

I really liked the actual cards quite a bit, felt a lot like a Pioneer Horizons mini set, maybe nix the busted format defining bits. The whole MotM stort arch fell super flat though.

[@BaronSengir1008]

And Koma was killed offscreen!

[@TheThiccestChungus]

MoM and war of the spark were both so disappointing from a lore perspective

[@MetalHev]

Honestly, the only good part of the entire phyrexian arc were the teamup cards. Borborygmos and Fblthp/Kogla and Yidaro are so cool.

[@BaronSengir1008]

@@MetalHev I like Drana and Linvala & Kroxa and Kunoros myself...

[@ih8people]

Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's Gate also has two chickens in it: *Kindred Discovery* and *Contraband Livestock,* which are real cards, so.. technically CLB wins the category!

[@CardmarketMagic]

Wooow I missed the chicken on Kindred Discovery! It was too tree coloured 😅

[@ih8people]

@@CardmarketMagic To be honest, I just used the Scryfall tagger, so if you did all that by hand.. you are crazy! 😂

[@infinitesquarez]

*>Presents Magic awards dressed as a sailor.* *>Refuses to elaborate.* *>Leaves.*

[@CardmarketMagic]

Yes ⛵

[@MyloValailo]

They should call them "Sailors" from now on

[@Zakading]

I think Ravnica Allegiance's bears might come from every guild having their own bear, alongside a handful of monocolor ones.

[@Duall8]

Yeah, having 5 Guildmages in RTR, GTC, GRN, & RNA probably put all of those near the top.

[@smokyprogg]

3:39 Mind Shatter definitely depicts a murder since it has a flock of crows in the art

[@ccccc6]

Wrong because if you check every picture about discarding cards in magic is about damaging the brain, not killing the person. Like Wrench Mind, Dread Fugue, Go Blank or Liliana's Caress. Is like damaging the brain when you make discard a card

[@tvavocado3519]

A flock of crows is called a murder. @@ccccc6

[@afasico9669]

​@@ccccc6"murder" is the name for a group of crows

[@mitsosoftheelves]

I don't know why Carl is dressed as a sailor but I love it!

[@pandaborg2466]

Now you have to have the community make some awards

[@davidheizer9136]

The most flashy set..

[@uglyaniimals]

i'm def curious what the community would give the most disappointing set to ! i remember at the time thinking battle for zendikar was extremely disappointing so i personally might give it to that -- granted there have been worse sets since but i didn't neccesarily have any expectations for those sets :P

[@elijahmyers4331]

You know cardmarket is sick when they have their own grammys for magic

[@AAP4life]

Never forget the Forsythee Awards

[@Generic42]

Don’t insult them by comparing them to the Grammies

[@keckerstrom]

I would say they’re more like the Dundees than the Grammys…

[@zirene5237]

Please never stop guys, these videos seriously are so good.

[@prashanttewari]

Another great concept and video. You guys are on a roll.

[@PharaohofAtlantis]

Award ideas: -Set with the largest creatures (by volume on art) -Set with the most birds for scale -Set with the most quotations in flavor text -Set with with the most cards which have "flying" in it's rules text

[@ericmaude6095]

You forgot a murder in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty,. The card 'You are Already Dead' shows an ogre being killed, he just doesn't realize it yet

[@CardmarketMagic]

I completely missed that the ogre was already sliced 😅 I thought it was just two menacing dudes chilling

[@GiganticPawUnit]

That was my immediate reaction, I was like "I KNOW there are some other black spells with some guy getting killed". Besides Already Dead there are a few other debatable ones like Reckoner's Bargain or Soul Transfer where I really have no idea what's happening in the art.

[@CardmarketMagic]

@@GiganticPawUnit If you look closely on reckoner's bargain, it's actually a samurai givin a gift to an ogre 🤓

[@angeldoyle859]

debt to the kami and lethal exploit too but yeah, come to think of it a lot of this set's removal doesn't *show* the murder, it's more like "oh this person's shooting out a blast of flame, this person's got a lot of spooky knives..."

[@GiganticPawUnit]

@@angeldoyle859 Lethal Exploit appears to show a Dragonfly Suit or similar piloted robot - besides the similarity in design, the weapons in its chest are VERY small in proportion to the machine.

[@wouterheemstra9002]

what about "you are already dead" for a murder in kamigawa neon dynasty?

[@CardmarketMagic]

I only now realized that the ogre is sliced in half 😅 I thought they were just chilling

[@brwhm]

​@@CardmarketMagicnot a murder though, because they were already dead

[@ellsming1986]

Carl's face at 7:12 is why I love him

[@henndahm72]

I Hope you guys are having those awards at every end of the year. Best/worst sets and some other randomness. I loved the award on the fly for biggest disappointment the best. The discussion was hilarious. Or make a quiz out of this? It often felt like you wanted to quiz the others and then you gave the answer right away.

[@samsprague3158]

This one was super fun, mostly because y’all obviously had fun making it! Great job to everyone who worked on it!

[@MelanieOh]

This was so fun and nerdy. I love you guys!

[@yoshimitsu5537]

Possibly the best awards ceremony I have seen, it had Bear Cub! I would love to hear your award for "Best/Worst Tribe" in terms of story, flavor, mechanics etc. I imagine everyone will have totally different reasons for "Most Disappointing Set." Mine is 8th Edition, the first new set released after I started playing in Scourge. I fell in love with MTG thanks to the story of Kamahl and the Mirari, the society of Otaria (went back and read the books from Odyssey through Scourge), the art, and feel of antiquity that the original borders had. Then came the ugly-ass modern border in a set with no story. They replaced the historic aesthetic of the cards with a lazy MacOS-looking face that i still can't stand to this day.

[@CardmarketMagic]

At least the modern borders look better now 😅 8th Ed really looked like it was made on Word

[@yoshimitsu5537]

Very true, the look of modern came a long way while I was out of the game.

[@blightyfrogs]

Bit of clarification for Toralf; A goose is a simic creation blending a really large duck and an angry snake together, and a chicken is a chicken.

[@bblivid]

I'd be interested to see the sets with the highest average power, cmc etc. You'd think Onslaught block would be in there somewhere with their CMC matters theme or Brother's War with all of those prototypes.

[@simplestatement]

The blooper audio at the end is a top notch addition.

[@luckyowl9191]

this is super fun, only this channel would do their own award show for mtg sets lol

[@CarlosMagnussen]

Some suggestions for the next installment: the set with the longest cardnames, the set with the most different creature types, the set that introduced the most new creature types, the set with the highest amount of {insert color} mana pips, the set with the most non-basic lands, the set with worst translated card name (english to german), the set with the most vampires, the set (from the 21st century) with the fewest cards on sale on Cardmarket OR with the least bought cards, the set (from 1996 onward) with the priciest booster packs at the time of recording, the set (starting with legends) with the fewest gold/multicolored cards,...

[@zangfang1]

Techically the set with the highest power is Unstable because of Infinity Elemental, also I'm pretty sure Mirrodin has way more cards banned than Ikoria

[@CardmarketMagic]

Infinity is not a number ;) Mirrodin has a higher amount of illegal cards, but we looked at sets that had cards banned (as in, they were legal, then became banned). We did not count cards that were disallowed from the format's inception because then the answer would be too boring and predictable (Alpha/Beta)

[@TRTSMTT]

I just checked Mirrodin has a lot of banned cards in modern rn. basically all my favourite cards from that set.

[@Enchurito]

​@@CardmarketMagicalso Conspiracy has 25 banned cards. So that wins by that criteria.

[@CardmarketMagic]

@@Enchurito conspiracy cards were not banned, they were simply never legal

[@drakegrandx5914]

@@CardmarketMagic Then, wouldn't it be Unglued with the B.F.M. having 99? Does Core 2020 actually manage to cover that much advantage?

[@Vesdus]

In Neon Dynasty "You are already dead" is a murder. The ogre has been slashed in half and hasn't realised he has been murdered yet - but it's clear he is either dead or immediately going to die as there is a cut running through the entirety of his body.

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@ublabaah3908]

First Innistrad set was pure gold both as a limited format and in flavor (have they ever nailed flavor like that since?), and on top of that it had some real banger cards. Returning there was always going to be disappointing and it was.

[@nathangoldstein7118]

I thought SOI and EMN weren't bad, but I agree with MID and VOW were extremely disappointing

[@fish_in_distress]

Especially returning there, again...

[@CardmarketMagic]

We feel similarly. We are not sure if it's nostalgia goggles or actual design though 😅

[@dragonfire72]

​@@CardmarketMagicnah, you're still correct- I started playing around Amonkhet and I still think OG Innistrad was great

[@ArvidVarg]

Chickens are member of the order Galliformes whilst the geese are members of the order Anseriformes. The biggest difference between the two orders is that the Anseriformes are more suited to living by the water whilst the Galliformes are more suited to live on land.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for the scientific answer :)

[@patches3592]

The murder in Morningtide is a pun - it’s a murder (group) of crows in the art

[@chadjehebej2258]

Learned a lot (kind of) about some magic sets, thanks cardmarket ❤️

[@matheusgazola764]

Man, this kind of humor is just the best.

[@TyskN3131]

Just gotta say that I really love your content! Ur such a great trio and I hope you'll keep it up for a long time coming

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thabk you :) we hope so too

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

"WHAT DO YOU MEAN A GOOSE IS NOT A CHICKEN"-Thorlaf 🤣🤣

[@MeepMeep933]

The mind shatter turned the guy's head into a murder of crows.

[@GruulAnarch]

This is amazing. You did forget You Are Already Dead when counting murders, though.

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@RyuBateson218]

Congratz Thoralf! I knew you could do it.

[@chuckwagon3718]

I had to check the math for most banned cards and found that Eldraine had seven bans (Oko everywhere; Once Upon a Time in Modern, Pioneer, and Standard; Mystic Sanctuary in Modern and Pauper; Escape to the Wilds, Cauldron Familiar, Fires of Invention, and Lucky Clover in Standard). A throne like that befits a crown. Also, pretty amazing to see how many M20 cards showed up on that list. That whole year from WAR to Ikoria was crazy.

[@SeleenShadowpaw]

Carl, you're absolutely _rocking_ that sailor top by the way. You look really sleek :3

[@Flip4Crypt]

This channel puts out banger after banger, never disappointed to see another video dropped from them

[@matteorossi1172]

My award is dominaria united to print the best card ever: "Balmor, Battlemage Capitain"

[@CardmarketMagic]

Oh boy that card is indeed very cool!

[@jaundicedmisanthrope7817]

I love how these guys don't take themselves too seriously and are naturally having a blast in doing so. These goofy ass awards like the Thoralf or War Of The Spark one were goddamn hilarious. I would also really love to see these 3 evaluate all the MTG expansion-blocks depending on their personal preferences and finding a consensus to put them into a (subjective) Tier-list. Would also be a neat opportunity for some storytime.

[@CardmarketMagic]

We actually tried something very similar! One of our longest videos yet is coming out tomorrow where we tried to make a tierlist for MTG mechanics 😅

[@parkerstockett7609]

Very fun concept, more please! Most disappointing set for me would be march of the machines, while the overall set was a banger it took an awesome buildup of Kaldheim through all will be one and pretty much squandered it.

[@lanychabot-laroche135]

That was really fun, and your editor is amazing!

[@valfreyja2107]

not the fuckin MTV logo at the start lol, absolutely love this

[@superdoodle2]

This was hilarious, please do more of this. Also I guessed Legions to be the highest total power set, as I'm pretty sure it consists of ONLY creatures.

[@madelinemccaul8209]

I also thought Legions would be it as well, but I just went through and tallied them up and despite the best efforts of Krosan Cloudscraper and its 13/13 statline the set still only comes in at 357 total power. It's a small set and it has so many 1 and 2 power creatures.

[@matthewsawczyn6592]

"What do you mean goose is not a chicken??" 🤣

[@charleswarbington2216]

Love the videos, you guys make some of the most entertaining mtg content around. Also the "We got banned cards in BRAWL?!" Tickles me every time😂

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoyed it :)

[@TheBloweed]

Love the concept, you're doing such an amazing job with this channel !

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoyed it :) thank you

[@magic_cat_1305]

Phyrexia all will be one disappointed me the most. I was not be able to play "new Phyrexia" set, but I really love this truly scary unnatural art that could give you nightmares. All will be one kind of ruined this scary nightmare atmosphere for me, it was more "for kids" Phyrexia than the previous one. Just compere the art from 2011 and 2023 and I think you will understand me)

[@benjaminfeiner6851]

Kinda true, yeah. I was massively hyped for All Will Be One, and I still think that the set has a lot of trippy / nightmarish art in it. But I prefer the darker, "oilier", dirtier look of 2011. However, most disappointing for me - amongst recent sets - was March of the Machine. In terms of the story, the setting and the mechanics. MOM was the set that literally killed the Phyrexians - in universe, and in some way, for me personally.

[@fabblwaps]

Mind shatter depicts a murder of crows, so it still counts if the person in the art somehow survived.

[@thewitchking6402]

that was actually such a cool video! i would love if you guys did another

[@polishhockeyfan]

Everybody knows the three archetypes of Magic Players! The Casual Carl, the Spikey Toralf, and... Jamin

[@TrophyGuide101]

Carl has a shift at Scoops Ahoy from Stranger Things after the awards show

[@moleculeman27]

Dragon's maze didn't exactly not disappoint.

[@The-Ertai]

Sailor Carl is one of the best iterations of Carl so far!

[@CilantroGamer]

Doll juice. Edit: Ursine Standard - GG Creature - Bear Flagbearer While an opponent is choosing targets as part of casting a spell they control or activating an ability they control, that player must choose at least one 2/2 creature you control on the battlefield if able. 2/2

[@ironkodiakbooks5115]

-Stick with power/CMC, etc, but go by average. Which set has the highest average toughness, average power, etc. - Set with the most number of "X" spells. -Set with the most different nonbasic lands.

[@CasualCoreK]

3:43 Mind Shatter definitely depicts a murder, since those are crows

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

11:00 Best Reward...ever "And.....the"

[@ThankYouForTheVideos]

Great video as always! I could definitely do with a few more videos like this!!

[@CardmarketMagic]

I'm happy you enjoyed it :)

[@excelexe9421]

Best way to wake up is to see a new cardmarket video!

[@wumpmas2]

You are Already Dead is a card from NEO that depicts someone being cut in half, which feels pretty murder-y

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@mattkidroske]

Honorable mention to Unsanctioned for the best chicken art on Flavor Judge

[@rentierlucas378]

why was Toffel disappointed in LOTR?! :

[@CardmarketMagic]

We've talked about it a bit afterwards. There is actually no good reason 😅 he just played one draft and did not enjoy it

[@joelgomez9073]

I’m glad that Carl dressed up as Donald Duck (presumably with pants though)

[@AutumnReel4444]

I would like to see "The most mag8c Magic set". Most depictions of magic in card art in a set

[@CardmarketMagic]

Oooh that would probably be strixhaven :D but I'd now also be curious to know

[@VioletMage]

now THIS is the content I am here for

[@nickjoseph77]

Carl showed up dressed like a Sailor Moon character. ❤

[@NStripleseven]

Technically the highest-power-in-a-set award should be a tie between Unsanctioned and Unstable, as they both have the card Infinity Elemental, a ∞/5 creature.

[@bchap5429]

This video had me rolling! But I think You Are Already Dead from Kamigawa should be considered a murder

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@MrABK108]

I want to see you guys make decks out of interesting cards no one looks at. That's the way I play MtG!

[@CardmarketMagic]

We do that on the channel pretty often :) we take audience brews with cards that are not often seen and play with them on camera :) we are filming the next one tomorrow even

[@MrABK108]

@@CardmarketMagic but I want YOU guys to do that! :P I loved it when you made Commander decks, and Thoralf brought the Phoenix deck etc!

[@g.thomasesmay4974]

I think you missed a murder in Neon Dynasty. You Are Already Dead depicts an ogre who has been sliced in half and his upper torso is about to slide off the rest of his body. It's a pretty iconic kind of murder.

[@CardmarketMagic]

I saw it and didn't see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two bandits looking tough

[@DSummersss]

The card You Are Already Dead from Kamigawa Neon Dynasty is definitely a murder...

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@xboxgamer474246]

I think Homelands or Mercadian Masks are probably the most disappointing, but Legends is up there.

[@marcosasgarcia]

I would like to see, after "Most banned cards": - Most bant cards - Most band cards (either the keyword or a musical group; or both)

[@RealSickduck]

3:51 thoralf's face made me burst out laughing

[@MrGrovak]

Being from Canada, we recognize geese as Cobra chickens.

[@xEddyTheGr8x]

I'm pretty sure all lot of the Bears in Ravnica Allegiance come from the completion of the Guildmages-cycle. That's 5 already & the rest is just some random 2mana 2/2s.

[@arturtomczak4254]

gosh i love that outro song ❤ apropos worst set, modern horizons 2, because of cards like solitude, ragavan from that moment onwards i fear power creep soo much

[@swiftythegathering]

I love how if you take the combined power of each creature in the highest power set, a single yugioh card beats it

[@Turnonemanacrypt]

Digging Carl’s Sailor Moon cosplay

[@peytonandomo9227]

Portal 3 kingdoms has the most chickens in it since there is one depicted in the background of most of the zodiac animals giving a total of 9 chickens over 8 chicken containing cards

[@Barracius]

The "correct" disappointing set is Innistrad: Midnight Hunt. It was originally marketed to us as "Innistrad: Werewolves" yet it barely felt like that.

[@Username-dz8bn]

7:55 Hey, the set with the most cards banned is conspiracy!

[@KylePriceOnline]

Mind Shatter has a group of crows, which in English is known as a murder of crows.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Then it's double murder 🤯

[@ownageDan]

antiquities has the golgothian sylex though - while not a direct depiction of a murder, it literally murdered EVERYTHING

[@Mrmastersterruser]

OMG 7:08 I am dying from laughter. THis was great to watch.

[@leverposteifantomet]

Don't forget the murder depicted on the card "You are already dead". So at the very least 4 murders in Kamigawa Neon Dynasty.

[@CardmarketMagic]

I did not see the slash 😅 I thought it was just two villains staring you down menacingly

[@leverposteifantomet]

@@CardmarketMagic I will admit that the slash is pretty easy to miss if you're not looking for it. As I'm sure you've figured out now, the card is referencing the anime trope of cutting an opponent so quickly they don't realize they have been sliced in half, as well as the famous quote from Fist of The North Star

[@EmDeeGee25]

Great, now you guys made me want to know what is the set with the AVERAGE highest mana value and creature's power

[@codyt372]

I think you could make the case that there are 2 murders in morningtide, both on mind shatter. One being the man killed, the other being the group of crows doing it.

[@Drvoljub]

@Thoralf Geese are usually larger and heavier than chickens. They have longer necks and stronger wings, making them good fliers. Chickens are smaller, short-necked and terrible fliers. Geese have strong beaks, perfect for grazing on plants and murdering insects. Chickens have shorter beaks that are only useful for pecking at grains and small bugs. Geese have webbed feet that help them swim in magical lakes, while chickens have regular feet that are only good for scratching the ground. They also make different sounds. Geese make a loud pants-shitting honking sound while chickens make an annoying "cluck cluck" sound all the time. Goose eggs are larger, have a tougher shell and are more expensive than those of a chicken. Geese are migratory birds, traveling long distances during different seasons of the year and are notable for flying in a V-shape formation. Chickens are not migratory and usually live at your granny's farm in a chicken coop all year round. Geese (the gilded ones at least) also come with their own food and can waste a whole turn to make some more of it.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Thank you for the science 😎

[@sriley4458]

I like that T man says chicken like he says token. Thoralf's accent is my favorite thing. All your accents sound great though

[@shorv]

uhh guys, mirrodin has 9 cards banned in modern alone. the 5 artifact lands, chrome mox, second sunrine, seething song, and cloudpost. another 2 (tooth and nail and disciple of the vault) are banned in other formats. and both conspiracy sets are in double digits, if you choose to count those. onslaught also has 7 with the 5 fetches in pioneer and biorhythm and trade secrets in commander.

[@ploptotheplop9156]

Mirrodin has 10 cards that are currently banned The five artifact lands, chrome mox, seething song, second sunrise and cloudpost. Disciple of the vault is currently banned in pauper. Atog is banned in pauper to and was reprinted in this set, im not sure if that counts.

[@HurricaneGregor]

"So the award goes to 2020" Did not have that one on my bingo card :P

[@neivafrost]

I started playing during Gatecrash, so my most disappointing set was the first prerelease I ever went to: Dragon’s Maze. I was a brand new player and somehow I already had a collection of much better cards than the likes of Emmara Tandris or Reap Intellect.

[@koenvandepoll927]

If I recall correctly, (Dragon's Maze) Emmara Tandris was first designed with the stats, mana cost and ability of Voice of Resurgence. However, the design team was troubled by that the creature was legendary, making it less playable in Standard. So they made it a non-legendary card (Voice of Resurgence) and created a new Emmara. So poor Emmara was robbed of being a playable card and of being a better commander. I fully agree however with Dragon's Maze being a terrible set.

[@CardmarketMagic]

Dragon's Maze is famously cited as a reason they stopped doing 3-set blocks. I assume it's difficult for designers to care about a 3rd set in the same world after they've already poured so much love and effort into the first 2

[@rykx0r]

You can tell there isn't a single Vorthos in that room when they say War of the Spark wasn't a disappointment.

[@bricelory9534]

I assume Ravnica has high number of bears due to having 10 guilds worth of guildmages to make.

[@CardmarketMagic]

That makes a lot of sense :)

[@caseywellington4761]

Mind Shatter definitely shows a murder. A group of crows is called a murder.

[@moshimeshowu747]

I love this vid, please do it again :D