Why the Timber is Pink

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[@therabman_5606]

It’s nice to see a comment section on a builders channel not complaining”your doing it wrong” it’s nice to know that actual tradesmen know that building regulations are different not only in each country but also in each local authority.

[@tubulartuber]

as long as the regulations respect physics, then it's OK. when they stop respecting physics then it gets rough

[@pickent]

Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[@warwickbourke]

It’s nice to have the original Scott Brown style videos back 👌 really any Scott Brown videos are a win!!!

[@henrytaufua7534]

Alex Ainley, former Highlanders lock now builder😮

[@lipsynchthis]

Fucken HELL of a player. What an awesome cameo for all the rugby nuts

[@more.power.]

The leaking house fiasco was a difficult time for many homeowners. They are still paying to resolve a problem they never created. Their homes fetch less than market value and they are stuck with a house that has problems which no one wants. Thanks Scotty for the build share.

[@tweake7175]

sadly its still ongoing today. they are still fixing them 30 years later. whats worse is some of the problematic elements are still allowed in the building code. we still build a lot of high risk homes.

[@jah1995wake]

Been watching for a few years now and see your squarespace ads. I finally got around to making a website for my business. Saved me $30 using your code. Thanks for the great videos, watching them has made me a better tradie over here in Australia.

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

In Canada, we call those exterior vertical battens a rain screen, allowing any moisture, like you mentioned to escape and also to let air move behind the cladding to dry any hidden materials. Amazing to see your new construction vs your old homes.

[@heightmare]

I grew up in Nelson and haven't lived there for well over 10 years but your b-roll makes me so damn homesick. Look forward to every episode.

[@thetoygun4796]

Not sure if you mentioned it but the batten gap needs to vent out on the top aswell. Otherwise the draft from the bottom of the system will pull the damp air up right into that leveled batten at the top. Which will cause it to rot quickly. I know this cause i work inscurance cases as a carpenter in Norway, and this is a common mistake i see alot.

[@DiscoFang]

Norway is not New Zealand. Completely different climate and construction methods to suit.

[@thetoygun4796]

@@DiscoFang true. But damp air with nowhere to escape to surely works the same in NZ, or atleast i would think so.

[@DiscoFang]

@@thetoygun4796Well that’s the point - no it doesn’t. Temperature differentials and ranges create different requirements and problems.

[@ZMFreelancer]

With regards to the Windows on the outside of the framing, this is slowly changing, and more of our NZ projects are now rebated to allow for better thermal performance.

[@donderjager4770]

11:15 It actually makes a lot more sense to put the glass in line with the insulation, if you don’t there will most likely be a gap where both of them meet. In my construction engineering study this was one of the things they put emphasis on when designing insulated walls. Might be a european thing? (Dutch based here)

[@aarongrey6848]

double/triple glazed windows outside the insulation line is crazy and its one of those silly things us kiwis do. Makes no sense.

[@Wheeznbreezn]

Yea and we have moved to thermal broken minimum in the new h1 rules but we still didnt exactly fix the problem 😂

[@Redmacarc]

@ScottBrownCarpentry Recessing windows to the insulation line Should be standard. Not recessing makes for a thermal bridge, worsened by using aluminium joinery - one of the most thermally conductive materials there is. Thermally broken joinery does little when exposed to a 20mm cavity on all sides - an expensive waste of the updated code

[@chornii_boumer7324]

5:38 Here BC Canada too. I’m only bringing my own hand tools and the rest is supplied by the employer

[@Erelyes]

11:25 "weirdos" - actually we're the weirdos, once you have double glazed windows (ideally PVC but thermally broken is ok), and decent wall insulation (i.e. 140mm not 90mm...) then the next weakpoint is the perimeter of the window frame sitting outside the insulation line!

[@caveweta]

A carpenter nailing nails into timber with a hand held hammer. Who would’ve thought it was possible?

[@edwardharlem9588]

Whatever happened to the good old hammer?!

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

​@@edwardharlem9588Ask Paul Pelosi... 🙄😅

[@mrsarkey]

Absolutely loving the fall/early winter vibes at the start.

[@soapalot]

There are window systems in New Zealand that are installed so the glazing is inside the insulation line. Centrafix is one such system that is slowly starting to gain popularity with higher-end builds. It’s expensive but thermal performance is close to uPVC windows installed on a cavity system.

[@strandedinparadise8202]

I live in a 90 year old weatherboard house in new Zealand with no cavity battens and also NO problems with moisture rotting the framing (as do many New Zealanders). It's a pity that the problems with other types of cladding empowered beauracrats to extend the rules beyond where they need to be. We no longer have a leaky building crisis but we do have a housing crisis and while the reasons for this are complex, excessive standards leading to excessive building costs are certainly not helping.

[@waitarerebill]

Correct

[@tweake7175]

o the irony of that post. those old houses are made of native timber which resists rot very well. which you cannot afford to build with today, even if they let you log native timbers. you claim excessive standards causing high build costs, but your house is rot free because of its made of super expensive materials. also those old houses didn't have insulation so they effectively used the wall cavity for drainage.

[@anthonyturner5319]

@@tweake7175mostly correct tho "expensive " rimu rots easily , was often low quality timber used as framing and bora loves the sap wood, or if it’s a little damp eg in the floor space. it’s the lack of insulation meaning framing void is cavity and can dry out, lack of maintenance of cladding leads to leaks- which will lead to rot.

[@strandedinparadise8202]

We've had wall insulation in NZ since the 70s but the roots of the leaky home crisis were in cladding systems developed in the 90s coupled with untreated framing timber - like Scott said. I agree the lack of insulation makes the cavity easier to keep dry but that situation isn't comparable to a moden full height cavity.

[@anthonyturner5319]

@@strandedinparadise8202 yeap, brick with cavity or weather board, as long as there’s building paper behind if insulation installed to stop moisture transfer, most places were fine, modern flat sheet goods fixed directly to frame over building paper was to blame as no place for water to get out / moisture to sweat out, coupled with bad design made things even worse. Most houses have stood test of time with little but nails holding things together, now there 1000’s in stupid brackets, purlin screws, hold down bolts , that mostly don’t do much, unless you have hurricanes/tornadoes. Even in extra high wind zones old cribs have with stood 100km + winds for 100 years. Moisture management in new homes needs sorted out as airtight construction is not that healthy as people don’t want to open windows to let fresh air in. But ventilation heat exchangers or passive design aren’t mandatory so houses can’t "breathe "

[@asmith2126]

The plastic tray at the bottom of the battens is a vermin strip, stops mice not so much bugs. I omitted to install this on a job once and was called out by a building inspector, i retro fitted it and it actually trapped a mouse living in the cavity!

[@mattharris2018]

I grew up in that area and anywhere up the valley past Seymour gets little or no sun during the winter.

[@remiewatkins8032]

Awesome stuff Scott I was in the building field when I left NZ 35 years ago its move on a lot love your videos Thanks for posting them

[@mikaz4858]

Pink wood is only needed if its pine :) we just built a whole house with UT macrocarpa, including cavity battens, which the NZ code allows for. Recommend!

[@DiscoFang]

Yep. But only in construction members protected from the weather and ONLY heartwood. Macrocarpa is Cypress which NZ3602 lists as an acceptable timber type (Larch and Cypress heartwood) for construction under NZ3604. Only for areas protected from weather while also at risk from moisture penetration, which would be cavity battens and framing but NOT weatherboards, despite what some mac suppliers claim.

[@anthonyturner5319]

Where did you get the Mac for framing from?

[@SuperNova-Steve]

I wish we grew mor Mac here. Great timber. Be such a fantastic resource

[@DiscoFang]

@@SuperNova-SteveI think the problem is yield. Defects and growth irregularities as well as defects from drying mean it’s not as viable a resource as radiata or douglas fir.

[@mikaz4858]

We got ours from MacDirect but I think Pahitatua Lumber processors does it too. As I understand the untreated heartwood is considered equivalent to H3.1, so the code allows for it in places exposed to weather too. But yes agree it needs to become more accessible/viable to use a wider range of timber here, its currently more expensive

[@aaronc3032]

watching your videos are like being a apprentice from home. Learning so many small things about how Aus and NZ do things differently.

[@alvinmartinez7758]

In the uk we usually double batten our cladding for the same reason you mentioned but by doubling the batten it allows for more airflow. Great episode as always Scott 👍

[@jaredgreen5305]

brother Scotty B got more coffee making tools in the bag than actual tools haha!

[@becksfindingforty]

Hey Scott, just wanted to say a big thanks to your videos! My husband and I are renovating our house and watch your videos on the regular to make sure we are doing it right as we are the owner-builders. Awesome content. Cheers!

[@ScottBrownCarpentry]

Thanks a lot, that’s good to hear. Good luck with the renovation!

[@becksfindingforty]

@@ScottBrownCarpentry Thank you - we need it, she's a wild ride haha

[@RogierYou]

Rebuilding at the foot of a steep hill the water came rushing down from 🤦‍♂️

[@bluesthemoose]

In France the barrier you install at the bottom of the cladding is against rodents, not bugs. Bugs will always find a way.

[@Wheeznbreezn]

It is for rodents in nz aswell, some of us call it "vermin strip" and some say "cavity closer". Bugs will always get in

[@toddsmash]

I used to live on Mt Tamborine in QLD. You can try to keep the bugs out or learn to use them to your advantage. Huntsman are my favourite spider for this reason. They do a great job of pest control. Pythons for less legged pests.

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

I disagree with you there. In Norway we build houses where insects can only enter through open doors and windows. We've had this standard for a couple decades now. We have very air tight houses which for the last 14 use ventilation-systems for air control. Our wind-barrier is designed to be completely without gaps and holes from sill to gable. All joints and cuts are taped or clamped tight.

[@Wheeznbreezn]

@@olgajoachimosmundsen4647 those holes dont vent to anywhere except behind the cladding. There is noway the insects can get inside the house itself

[@geechaplin4458]

happy birthday Scott.

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

G,day Scott Brown Carpentry from Sydney Australia. I'm interested to know how you; 1. Stop insulation foam from bulging reveals (windows frames) and how to cut off excess foam without damaging timber edges? 🌏🇦🇺

[@subbobberry]

Great cinematography on this one. Love the shot at 00:29. Movie quality!

[@pappyville7718]

Scott. I was thinking. You show how work is done and this job I am interested how they set up the scaffolding on on even land,

[@nix123ism]

Mobile scaf has wind out wheels to level, fixed scaf usually has wind out plates that they adjust and put offcuts of timber under the legs ....

[@rossbovill4548]

Quick tip. I work in the water damage industry. Air movement (fans) more efficient/quicker at drying with heat and dehumidification.There’s a whole science behind it but I won’t bore u with that..

[@Syncop8rNZ]

As air warms it is able to hold more moisture - I would think the dehumidifier is more important than the heater (but both probably best?).

[@rossbovill4548]

@@Syncop8rNZ depending on the type of dehumidifier desiccant or refrigerant. The ideal drying conditions are around 20oc with a room around 40%relative humidity. Air movement against the surface of what you are drying moves the moisture off its surface to circulate for the dehumidifier to catch. Ideally a few fans to create a vortex.

[@rossbovill4548]

You also want heat as the material drying wont sweat… I could rattle on for days but it’s pretty boring. lol, in short air movement will speed the process up

[@Syncop8rNZ]

@@rossbovill4548 Thanks! 😅

[@anthonyturner5319]

Yeap plenty of idiots think they can dry frames with diesel heaters. Corded leaf blower set up or floor fans do a great job, no heat needed.

[@ethanhorner55]

"was like a ass installation JN say yeah i'd put that in my mantel piece" gotta love the closed captions

[@antoniiocaluso1071]

beautiful quality work, and good to see! me in SW FL, USA asks...what if one added RADIANT BARRIER atop PRESSURE-TREATED Furring Vertical Strips??? Just what I'd do...I reckon! I've been wrong, before :))) ohhhh...does anyone HATE those low-ceilinged spaces, as typical? I...build them HIGH, which does a body Good!!

[@mackelake]

Love your videos

[@Riflezx]

liking the change of these recent videos, feels a lot like ur older videos, i love watching episodes on ur own house but it’s good to have a change, i’m sure you think so too mate

[@memyselfandeye1234]

What no counter battens ... Thank You Kindly For the vids Scott ... peace

[@Syncop8rNZ]

What are counter battens?

[@Nickvin]

Why would you need counterbattens for horizontal weatherboards

[@samt5663]

Backing foam also know as backing rod, purpose is to ensure that the foam or sealant around joinery, only sticks to two surfaces. If there was movement and the foam or sealant was stuck to three surfaces, the risk is the sealant or foam would release from the timber rough opening or joinery reveal and no longer air seal the gap. Pass on the knowledge ❤ 3:48

[@Syncop8rNZ]

We also call it PEF rod.

[@anthonyturner5319]

Maybe, not sure it matters around windows, they more don’t want the foam coming out into the cavity or against the aluminium where it may attract moisture, it’s purely to stop air movement from out side in with difference of air pressure .

[@katrinabell7684]

Interesting SBC! It must be hard building when it is so cold & damp.🤔😎

[@malinullberg]

I miss Jess in the videos! ❤

[@cj-ef1rp]

Your batten gap needs only be less than 10mm to prevent insects from nesting behind the cladding. That gap allows moisture to drain, but importantly, it allows air to circulate from the sill to the soffit to air dry. So be sure to leave a small air gap below the soffit for complete circulation. When you install cementitious cladding intimate to the wall substrate, you don’t get the air gap to dry from behind, but also the sun will drive any surface moisture through the cladding to the backside, further exacerbating the drying issues.

[@edw9623]

The NZBC stipulates that cavity battens must be between 18-25mm, this is a consented build so must be built to code..

[@cj-ef1rp]

@@edw9623 I appreciate that building codes differ, I was intending to make the point about using a small cavity allows air/moisture adequately without permitting insects to nest. It’s rare to find a building code that is based upon highest quality standards or modern building science/new technology.

[@thetoygun4796]

10mm is too little space for proper ventilation. Atleast in somewhat wetter climates. Here in Norway this used to be the code, but it rots the cladding way too quick. Now code is 19mm but most carpenters use 23mm. I myself like 30mm for the most air circulation. To prevent bugs we have metal «cheese grater» looking things along the bottom of the batten. The holes let air in, but not enough space for something like wasps forexample

[@66meikou]

On a rain screen, you install a termite guard under the base plate (here in the US) and then there's a vent/insect screen installed. I'm English but I work in the US. Rain screen's here are usually a 19mm 3/4" air gap for drainage. The company I usually spec is Cor A Vent

[@DiscoFang]

First question you should ask yourself before claiming what someone else should be doing or needs is: Am I in a different country and climate?

[@jonnafry]

Enjoying this bread and butter site content.

[@dennis2376]

Thank you.

[@user-zx3wt9xl7m]

Loving the onsite content !

[@gillie-monger3394]

The only thing I dislike about being a carpenter when working 'on site' is the amount of bloody tools I have to cart in the van, 'just in case'!

[@johneaston2293]

I am a retired mobile boilermaker pipe welder long wheelbase transit type van,welding generator. oxy/act bottles miles of welding cable .cutting tubes,grinders.and all the other hand tools you can think off the only thing we did'nt carry was nail gun and claw hammer we used the welder to do our nails and now and again you would give your van a good clean out and within a few days you would need something you cleaned out do i miss it NO. Happy days and greetings from Scotland.

[@gillie-monger3394]

@@johneaston2293 Greetings! It's why I rarely do on-site work anymore. The money's great but the hassle nowadays is a pain. Especially site h&s regs. and the bloody cowboys that have sprung up! But tbh the worst thing is that I've had two van breaks ins since 2015 and my insurance is through the roof. But I'm still required to carry a workshop of this around!

[@cameronhesling6189]

Yes scott I love these videos so glad they’re back

[@ondskabenselv]

Avoid the last part of the aeropress coffee with the hissing sound, the taste aren’t as good as the rest of the coffee (just stop the plunge when the sound appears). Have you considered getting the Aeropress XL and sharing the coffee with your colleagues?

[@KenMcGeachy]

"Funny", we had a Leaky Condo crisis in BC Canada a couple decades back, and now we have a similar cavity system for exterior siding. We call it rain screen, typically strips of treated 1/2" or 5/8" plywood, attracted vertically, prior to siding (cladding). Opposite sides of the world. Same issues.

[@iShaymus]

Those uPVC windows are what I was recommending for your house Scott. The same profile as wooden windows so you don’t lose the look from a distance plus a huge number of benefits and none of the drawbacks of wood.

[@Syncop8rNZ]

Did you know wooden frames have a similar thermal efficiency to PVC? (Both are better than aluminium)

[@DiscoFang]

I have retrofitted many UPVC units into houses. The one huge potential drawback is in glass breakages in the future. The trim profiles that hold the glass into the frame are specific to each manufacturer and 20 years from now who knows whether new replacement profiles can be sourced. Because one thing I'm pretty sure of is that when trying to remove the trim to replace broken glass after 20 years of NZ sun, that trim will potentiall shatter when either removing or reinstalling it. Yes, even though that trim is on the inside face.

[@pierevojzola9737]

@@DiscoFang20 years in the NZ sun? I recon that the damage by our son has got worse and your estimate is underestimated, but then I have seen the damage done to my skin over my lifetime of 86 years and have noticed the dramatic changes in the weather and exposure to the sun has done on the farm. Cheers mate Harera

[@anthonyturner5319]

What draw backs from wood that ain’t easily sorted with good upkeep? Prefer wood over anything we have available in nz bar cost having become crazy, last house I had quoted joinery was 120k for timber, aluminium or upvc around 45-55k

[@iShaymus]

@@anthonyturner5319 Cost and upkeep are the drawbacks. We have uPVC windows and doors. Entire house of windows plus two entry doors and two french doors was $34k Apart from a little white grease on the locking mechanism every few years there is zero maintenance. They look brand new with a wash, no painting and it really does look like the original wood windows from more than a few meters away.

[@nicko198718]

John looks like a young, timetraveling Paul McCartney 😲

[@bendavies8129]

Lol, I had closed captions on by accident at the beginning of the video. That first phrase was definitely not caught right by the computer 😂

[@patzed3928]

Ass! 😂

[@0j0nn]

I love this content, reminds me of the videos many many years ago. Also loved the house episodes, are you still going to finish it, let someone else do it or did I miss something? Cheers!

[@user-fz3pq3go9l]

Curious, I noticed the bottom plates and cavity battens arn't pink, are they treated to a different level? Other cavity battens I've seen have notches to allow more airflow within the cavety... not these ones?

[@hauarugilbs]

Should the cavity battons be treated also? And probably primed? I usually use primed. H2 treated

[@david_kim]

They are always h3.2

[@andrewwest1938]

Another great video

[@sammerthahammer]

I need the smoko time soundtrack for work plz

[@headshot_gaming2666]

Are those screws in that metro window more than 450 apart??

[@scipiony]

Hey Scott what is that watch you are wearing?

[@dsjjvfdjkdd]

Hey Scott, love your videos - just one niggle. Would it be possible to remove some of the shake from your hand held footage - on a bigger screen it's noticeable the picture really bobs around a lot.

[@MichaelArthur4eva]

What kind of expanding foam is that?

[@BurningSock]

Hey Scott, love the vids, random question - what brand/model are your transparent frame glasses? Cheers!

[@pie314isi]

the captions; "It's like a ass installation"

[@mikeoppenheim8504]

Isn't Chris Jack a builder down there as well? Is Nelson where all former rugby player go to be builders?

[@lesterfei507]

Wow is he really a highlander lock?

[@matthewgrannis8047]

Hey man have tried messaging you on fb and insta just had a couple of questions in regards to the/your 40v xgt mitre saw 1- is your saw the 216mm model or bigger 2 if it’s the 216mm model I have just brought one and am having issues understanding why mine is not cutting dull depth while I’m cutting framing it’s not too bad as it is d4 but when I’m cutting square 4 sides like skirting etc it leaves me with a nipple which has to be broken every cut and it’s annoying as heck hahaha Any ideas or opinions on my issue would be greatly appreciated

[@happyharry7331]

Is that a low expansion foam for the windows?

[@masku1367]

I may have missed it but do the head flashings need end caps on the ends of them?

[@alexrodger751]

End caps or they can be folded with a touch of sealant in the corner to seal it. I prefer the second, have nothing but issues trying to keep those proprietary caps on during install

[@kestutisbagusauskas8323]

Ah, just another day at the office for Scott.....

[@zacseaton1301]

Scott Brown here*

[@brendonross5774]

I’d imagine you’re about to be fixing a re-flooded house because the weather ain’t looking favourable

[@blakei5620]

Interesting that the windows are protruding away from the insulation, instead of being in line with the insulation. Decreases the thermal properties this way.

[@blakei5620]

Haha wrote this before y’all said

[@Syncop8rNZ]

It would be fine if we could find a good way to have the insulation on the outside. 🤔

[@paulmeersa7162]

Are you allowed to film on site with no worries from the others..?

[@thadh4085]

What’s Jon’s opinion on the Diamondback vest?

[@njs1166]

Pink timber = only treated with boron? A pesticide. H1.2

[@frostfang83]

you need to get sponsorship from Aeropress

[@pauls4708]

timber used in older houses used to be treated too. The idea of thin sheets fixed onto untreated timber seems foolish. It turned out to be foolish. Hence cavities and treated timber.The battens are treated to an exterior level too

[@shanegenx7519]

how come the battens that your going to fix cladding to isn’t pink

[@aquad00r]

Pink framing or pink treated timber is classed as h1.1 which is only suitable for interior use. The battens are h3.1 which are sometimes green or no colour.

[@BlueCatBuilds]

The auto caption translated the first sentence to, ‘it looks like an ass installation John’

[@DiscoFang]

That's some nasty 'rhoid rage.

[@lancelavallee8487]

🎉

[@jameskelly5678]

not true ive worked in edinburgh for he last 40 years and always needed my own tools

[@fireblaster9961]

2:37 what view

[@KuzConstrution]

Dang lol

[@tweake7175]

hi scott. just checking if its you guys or utube thats deleting comments. if its you lets us know your rules, i don't want to get you into trouble with any company etc, so am happy to abide by your rules.

[@SR-kg2zr]

1st

[@whittakertable]

#1

[@MichaelArthur4eva]

The window system is terrible, windows should sit in the frame for less thermal bridging

[@Pistol_Knight]

'This cavity system' you wont know if it works for at least 10yrs, that's what sucks about the building trade it's all experimental that someone someone comes up with on paper, a so called expert earning 3 times what the builder earns! you should make a SMR vid of your coffee making. Manfrotto Fluid head mount is what you need. I kinda like your system, bit belt & braces but only time will tell so over the top IMHO. Your places are so 'airtight' that in itself is worrying, you need air to dry things and maintain a barrier from hot to cold, there is always something wrong IMO with a toatally 'sealed' house. Building inspectors nowadays are not very forgiving, nothing worse than a 24yr old turning up with a manual and has to keep referring to it, on many occasion I have had to pull someone away from them 😂. 14 moisture here Max, 12 or below is good. Artificially 'drying the timber' is ok! It's hard when you work in a climate that vis similar to the UK?

[@Syncop8rNZ]

It's not just on paper, BRANZ tests all these things.

[@DiscoFang]

It's been standard method in NZ for over 20 years. Time has told.

[@anthonyturner5319]

Healthy homes based building do something called forever breathe if you want a system that works naturally

[@ailmlvr5905]

haha weirdos indeed

[@kepprr]

That Alex guy really doesn’t seem fun to work with

[@barryrobbins7694]

While I enjoy your channel, please find another sponsor. In a recent Forbes Article: Kinjil Mathur, Chief Marketing Officer of Square Space has recently stated that Gen Z job seekers should be willing to work long hours, for free, and be willing to do any type of work. That sounds like complete subservience.

[@michaelleal416]

Nothing to do with this episode. How is Paerau doing these days?

[@fartnyaface]

Poor John looks more annoyed about all the downtime he has to pay Scott while he was filming onsite for the day LOL! :)

[@luckyluke8052]

Man, honestly, I would be mad at you for spending an hour just for unloading tools because you must restack your camera 10 times 😂😂😂