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@beno9966 Жыл бұрын
You would need to build in feedback for them to be useful.
@akaraikiriakatsuki3157 Жыл бұрын
I can understand wireless shifting but not this.
@raynoldchow Жыл бұрын
No. Just safety concerns. Ahem, what if it fails to receive signals?
@pzimusic Жыл бұрын
Never, brakes must work
@curtisducati Жыл бұрын
More reasons to get £15000 out of us for s push bike ? Think it is time I brought a MOTORCYCLE instead , nice DUCATI for £10,000 a lot cheaper and you get a shag instead of looking a twat in spandex and a kids helmet !
@Celeon999A Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing ! Not just designing and building that on your own, but also daring to actually ride it pretty fast on real trails. And massive props to Blake for actually making a front brake version aswell. Im pretty certain quite some people would dare to try out the rear one but certainly only very few would dare to even touch that little front brake lever , for obvious reasons. 😆
@Zimblake Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude. It was a hell of a challenge. Loved it
@pewsician2388 Жыл бұрын
@BlakeSamson8 100% mkII needs to happen. I'd ride them if I could afford them. People fly planes with no mechanical connections. There's literally planes that would be impossible to fly with a mechanical yoke. Why can't bikes be fly by wire, too? I'm on board.
@BigAsianJesus Жыл бұрын
@@pewsician2388 planes have decades of engineering and they are still crashing sometimes,yet their battery wont die midflight, and there is still physical cables connecting all the stuff in plane. On bike it has thousand opportunities to fail from error in electronics to lost signal or dead battery. And if battery dies once a month, you will probably end up crashing into the wall once a month
@JZTechEngineering Жыл бұрын
@@BigAsianJesus not necessarily, just have two separate systems for each brake so if one fails, you can use the other, or just brake by wire with regen braking
@mikedwiles Жыл бұрын
@@BigAsianJesus On semi trucks, the air system could fail and there would be no brakes. The safely approach used there is that when there is no air, the powerful brake springs will stop the vehicle. Maybe an approach could be that when the battery dies, the unit defaults to full brakes. Not sure how to work something like that out though.
@RicardoPetrazzi Жыл бұрын
This is arguably one of the all time best Blakes Builds GMBN has done. Simply brilliant. I enjoyed every minuit of this one. 🤘⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@Zimblake Жыл бұрын
Thanks ❤
@zwingler Жыл бұрын
Blakes videos style is always so captivating. The way he is always so giddy about what hes doing and the editing style supporting it.
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome feedback, we all got giddy about this video!
@c.franca2259 Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn, maybe someone already said it but, with a longer lever it will be easier to modulate. Regards
@SprSonik13 Жыл бұрын
the Stoke is real with that man! And it is contagious.
@Marco-vp8wl Жыл бұрын
For a v2: try to use a conventional mtb lever + potentiometer. Also implementing a strong spring into the lever could help with modulation
@kl3vr Жыл бұрын
yea its missing the feedback we're used to, which is why its so automatic to just grab all the brake and lock it up.
@KiwiRiderRyan Жыл бұрын
my thoughts would be using the stuff that bottom out bumpers on coil shocks as you could swap the rubber out dippending on if you like more modulation or a short sharp leaver feel
@junyutan9408 Жыл бұрын
Not an expert in electronics but was also going to suggest a potentiometer. Controller will read the potentiometer output and convert to rotations on the servo. But I assume you will have to build your own controller instead of using the RC car controller?
@adrewnebeil1151 Жыл бұрын
Maybe glue a magnet to the lever and use a hall effect sensor
@tiagobelo4965 Жыл бұрын
If you want it to be based on feel a load cell would be ideal
@olewiegmann6563 Жыл бұрын
Mk2 would definitely be interesting to see. Maybe longer levers could help with the modulation because the travel of the lever increased compared to the movement at the sensor. As scary as those are, they're equally interesting.
@godbob5835 Жыл бұрын
This would actually be extremely useful for mountain bikers like me with slight arthritis in the finger joints. Having no resistance in the levers means that I can press the brakes easier without having to worry about my arthritis giving me problems while slowing down. This new invention would be epic for other bikers who have finger disabilities and require no resistance in the brake lever to slow down. Well done Blake!
@niclaskarlin Жыл бұрын
Next level is to connect the brakes directly to the rider's brain, so that you just think "slight brake now", and the bike brakes! The interface is yet to be developed.
@stephendenagy339610 ай бұрын
Arthritis…get Hayes Dominion A4s. The best brake feel available.
@jaroslavveverka8424 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!! We need mark II, super excited on that.😊
@JB50713 Жыл бұрын
Lol husband, father, mountain biker, vlogger, carpenter and now an electrical/ mechanical engineer! Blake's a one man show.
@WGK90 Жыл бұрын
If only - everyone else on this channel is either a complete wet wipe or annoying af
@darrenthompson7764 Жыл бұрын
Haha, ‘Die-by-Wire’ braking… 😂 Great job Blake, creative thinking but it’s defo gonna be a thing somewhere down the line…
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
How long away do you think? Would you purchase some?
@darrenthompson7764 Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn well the tech & protocols already exist, it’s just public acceptance that will be the biggest hurdle. As with everything bike related, once it’s been raced at the top level & the concept has been proven then it will slowly become accepted. Yeah, I’d definitely try them, I’ve always bought into the tech & been an early adopter for as long as I’ve been into mountain biking. Carbon frames, Disc brakes, Front, then Full suspension, dropper posts, have had first generation versions of all of them.
@darrenthompson7764 Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn as for how long? I bet the Skunk Works versions are already out in the real world…couple of years tops until all the negative attitudes towards electric shifting die away, then the doors are open as the tech has already been proven.
@kuyaanima Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn I agree with darren, the tech is here for a long long time, just public and consumer acceptance is the main problem. Everything in the bike industry at some point has some skeptics from tech that we use today. Suspension for example, people questioned why 120mm is a thing for downhill, if 100mm or even 80mm is enough. Now look at today, where 200mm is the norm. So definitely, it'll come, but not soon enough.
@jpfidalgo7 Жыл бұрын
Oh yes, the other kind of "Death Grip Challenge"!
@fjodorgrigorow3851 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Blake! I know that watching it 5-6-7-years later and web shopping for some XT, XTR wireless brakes we will be thankful to you again! :- )))
@daviddarwiche7932 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely BRILLIANT. I will buy it in a heart beat. Imagine GMBN being the pioneer in wireless bike brakes. Brilliant I tell you.
@noxed11 Жыл бұрын
Now this is what the internet was made for. Incredible effort. Please keep refining these!
@avocette Жыл бұрын
Great video Blake! I do have some suggestions regarding the implementation of modulation. Two key things here: the actual modulation in the caliper, and the user-end's perception of modulation in the controls. I would suggest attaching a stiff spring between the servo and the cable pulling the caliper so that the braking force ramps up as the servo pulls more. On the lever side, you could use an elastomer or compression spring that pushes against the lever blade on the end part of its travel. You can use a cable brake lever to pull on the trigger part of the mechanism. Last touches will then be to fine tune the bite point on the caliper side to match with the lever starting to engage the resisting spring.
@andrec.136 Жыл бұрын
As an electronics nerd, I found this quite interesting. I used to say that brakes is the one thing I wouldn't want to be wireless, but after seeing this I am beginning to think differently. Lots of refining needed now, such as latency, integration, etc. I can see this happening. I foresee the caliper and server being one unit, the brake levers having a normal look and feel for the sake of intuitiveness and feedback. And of course water resistance.
@gmivisualsjason3729 Жыл бұрын
Would need a failsafe of some kind.....
@beepbop9 Жыл бұрын
Throw in a micro controller with wheel speed sensor this has the capability of ABS on bikes.
@user-yv2cz8oj1k Жыл бұрын
How about running the front cable through the stem and steerer and down to the front brake and only having the rear as a wireless one?
@gmivisualsjason3729 Жыл бұрын
As long as both the brakes are on a different frequency it's highly unlikely for both breaks to fail simultaneously.... So I suppose the failsafe is basically Which ever brake , front or back hasn't failed.
@user-yv2cz8oj1k Жыл бұрын
Or just keep the front as a cable/hydraulic run through the stem, as it's the one that gets most use anyway.
@ericl6460 Жыл бұрын
Love the use of CAD (cardboard aided design) for making the brackets
@petrilatva-rasku9789 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant! This needs to be sent to GCN's Hack/Bodge of the week. It is an ingenious hack and at the same time it is a hazardous bodge beyond belief.
@joalnelo Жыл бұрын
Blake, this is so sick. As a bike mechanic, I think this is fascinating and so out of my skills 😂 kudos to your abilities and skills to do this in your garage....Sram and Shimano are watching 😅
@jeffreychow8853 Жыл бұрын
Love Blake and the breadth of his skills. I’ve been getting into diy electronics the past couple years. The key to making wireless brakes actually work is some type of force feedback like sim racing steering wheels.
@flowstateofmind Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there is not a single insurance company that would be ready to back this idea but it's pretty stunning Blake actually got it to work
@davetbassbos Жыл бұрын
Haha, liability was the first thing I thought of, impressive engineering though!
@WillyJunior Жыл бұрын
Nerds
@dudeonbike800 Жыл бұрын
If the insurance industry will underwrite fly-by-wire for vehicles traveling 400 mph with 320 people aboard, they surely could find an acceptable bicycle design. One person riding no more than 40 mph? Child's play!
@whatyoudo9773 Жыл бұрын
RC stuff is pretty advanced now and these systems are flying around above your head already, locked on and ready to fire if you dont comply with Joe!
@0ntoowheels Жыл бұрын
Blake is a National treasure!!! Protect this man at all cost! 😅 Brilliant build!
@zahinexplordy412 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Blake for making it a reality. Few months ago I was saying a similar concept to my roommate but he wasn't quite enthusiastic about listening to me. and I can show him this for reference.
@tiagobelo4965 Жыл бұрын
I'd reccomend using a load cell for control on V2, should make it way easier to modulate. Edit: if you're feeling extra adventurous (and have a spare set of handlebars, which you lads 100% do) you could put the electronics inside the handlebars for an extra sleek look
@jostl.3789 Жыл бұрын
This is mindblowing - imagine having programmable brake profiles for wet and dry conditions. ABS and no more blocking brakes. Automatic brake force distribution with only one lever or braking with different switches like gripshifts or your feet position. I´d totally buy that! I am riding AXS on three different bikes now and it never ever failed in four years. Could be solved with a fail-safe mode: Rear brake closes and front opens when battery is too low.
@omunorilor9380 Жыл бұрын
If you're doing the mark 2, i've got some ideas: Put a heavier springs on the triggers so they feel more real. Shorthen the servo arm for so they don't feel on and off, For flexing you could make the mounts also sit on the frame and tighten them with some zip ties. Nice and fun project tho!
@norbi6699 Жыл бұрын
Those wireless protocols are so reliable, it is a tech from FPV drones or RC planes. This one uses ESCs and servos, with no flight controller so more like a FPV wing. As long as you have a reliable receiver and transmitter you should be fine. ELRS is a good one, but maybe TBS Crossfire would be more sturdy. You can edit servos speed so it should feel more responsive with a lower delay. I was thinking about this setup, but obviously, it is unpractical, you can get a pair of good brakes for £150. Making levers longer could be beneficial, getting a spring-loaded gimbal is easy. Great video Blake, you are a legend
@andyamos8594 Жыл бұрын
Freaking brilliant!! On "armagedon" principle (and cost) I'm personally against wireless stuff but it is progress and you're talk through it was excellent!! I can see this turning up on some secret downhill competition bike next season and I hope they come to be known as Blakes rather than Brakes!!??
@PaulHolder Жыл бұрын
I'm finding it impossible not to point out that there were wires, just short ones and not connected to the levers BUT it was such a good video that this isn't important. Most people would have just talked about this idea, the rest would have got someone to make it for them but Blake did it himself 🙌
@lukesvlogs7725 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy, I always thought of something like this, and now it's real! So sick!
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
How long do you think before we see something like this in real production?
@DiorgenesAssis Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn definitely not too long, maybe in an year or two
@dropbaran Жыл бұрын
@@gmbnHopefully never, lol
@aurisnow Жыл бұрын
@@gmbn @NateHills have talked about this for a long, long time. I always said it wouldn't be such a big deal to put RC servos and get it done, haha. Glad someone finally got around to do it but personally I like it on someone else's bike. hahah.
@adamashe9536 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was only a matter of time before someone was mad enough to try this! Very innovative solution, entertaining stuff.
@jonk6834 Жыл бұрын
Notwithstanding that wireless brakes are a fundamentally terrible idea, this was fascinating. Some hugely impressive engineering from Blake!
@kidShibuya Жыл бұрын
They are coming, they are an excellent idea and odds are your car already uses them.
@Dirtypandasan Жыл бұрын
@@kidShibuya Not too many cars atm have them really. And those cars have redundancy of hydraulic brake system if electric one fails, that wouldn't make any sense on bikes. What advantages do you think there is to wireless brakes on mtbs?
@ironeinar Жыл бұрын
@@Dirtypandasan The main advantage, which I think is a great one, is that a non hydraulic, non cable actuated lever doesnt have any resistance to pull against. That also means no fatigue in the brake fingers. Which actually is my only problem when biking. I think that, even though it seems like a terrible idea, it can be a really great one actually which I would definitely love to try out in a more refined iteration.
@karlcorrz Жыл бұрын
they are for sure gonna come, for the feedback I reckon they'd be using haptic feedback like the ones you found on game controllers. the genuine feel for the hydraulic oils I am guessing is the brake lever would have some chamber of oil in it, with a sensor/servo that replicates the feel of it presssing on the calipers, say the equal volume you press on the levers, would be the same volume of force on the calipers.
@AaronHendu Жыл бұрын
For my bicycle camper, wireless brakes are the BEST idea. They will essentially be an e-brake anyway and only used when necessary ie. To keep my camper from rolling backwards down a steep hill.
@olibrown4270 Жыл бұрын
This is a sick proof of concept and would be sick for DJ bikes and we need pt 2!!
@gergelypaless5042 Жыл бұрын
If Blake could do this in his home garage, so can the big companies. We are going to see fully wireless bikes in the future. Crazy to think about..
@brianrainey2739 Жыл бұрын
As the big bike companies lawyers sit quietly shaking their heads. Manufacturers would be sued back to the stone age when the crashes start on day one….
@user-yv2cz8oj1k Жыл бұрын
Look, it's not needed on the front, just run a cable past the stem cap and to the brake, but yes, I could see some people running these, with a wireless dropper and gear shift, to remove all the frame cables and hoses.
@bibasik7 Жыл бұрын
They would need to have a force feedback unit to make the brakes feel right
@user-yv2cz8oj1k Жыл бұрын
@@bibasik7if they only need to do it with the rear brake it is possible. But generally I feel how effective the rear brake is being using my feet and legs.
@marionlumbang Жыл бұрын
As always, you are a legend Blake! This is revolutionary! Fully wireless cockpit would be amazing
@romeandcurry6915 Жыл бұрын
Execs at SRAM and Shimano will be pretty upset this morning - this will ruin a few patent applications :-) Well done
@Vixen1525 Жыл бұрын
Do you even know how patents work?
@romeandcurry6915 Жыл бұрын
Yes I’m a world class patent lawyer. No wait I’m just a bike enthusiast. Do you know how KZbin comments work?
@ikerteuscher Жыл бұрын
Blake should have his own channel. Guy is amazing at all he does. This one blew my mind.
@benjy288 Жыл бұрын
Good proof of concept, but a really bad idea.
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
🙃 haha
@edymarin7781 Жыл бұрын
Yep. One dead battery away from... well, possible death
@benw6952 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s that bad: •Very occasionally my hydraulics have failed on me so it’s not like wireless would be the only one •If I had these on my bike I’d know I’d fully charge them before every ride •I would definitely stop if I heard them beep to tell me they are low •Even if one did run out it’s very unlikely they’d both run out/fail at the same time so I’d just use the other working brake to stop.
@edymarin7781 Жыл бұрын
@@benw6952 I admit that wireless brakes would suit some riders (and heck, I love the no wire look of the bike, and the freedom of movement it would give), but they would definitely not be for everyone. As someone who forgets to check the batteris on everything, I probability would be dead (and I know a bunch of people that are just like me). With that being said, I'd love to see this idea made into a real product, even tho I would probably avoid it.
@warthy8977 Жыл бұрын
@@benw6952 what about if u go fast and there is a jammer and the connection will be lost in the system and u could die not good idea u could ruin lot of races with this the only thing u need is jammer very dangerous
@christophersmith879 Жыл бұрын
Just love that you made it work. Yeah it can be done a lot better but you did it first. Big props for off the shelf mad scientist skills
@jpulley Жыл бұрын
You and your batteries die and the same time. lol 🤣
@pietrotorres8498 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! The knowledge you gained on your own and applied it to make it real! Keep engineering Blake! You just made the unfeasible, feasible, what a legend
@M_A987 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome content once again! Got to appreciate Blakes courage actually riding downhill with completely wireless :D We definitely want to see mk2 in action. I could see real use for this kind of tech combined with abs. But for trail I'd like some kind of force feedback. So propably this will never brake it mainstream :P
@Bear-Jew Жыл бұрын
Excellent! Huge YES to the "Mark II" video.
@irsyadrdp Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant. Definitely need to see the mark 2 done. Well done Blake 👏👏👏
@mikedwiles Жыл бұрын
What an undertaking! Excellent ideas. You're most of the way there. Finding a way to increase modulation and reduce sensitivity sounds like the next challenge. Definitely want to see a MkII version.
@VarunSrinivas Жыл бұрын
Love how you guys know how to play around with technical stuff too, rather than only ride bicycles in inhuman fashion. Never expected or even thought of this stuff LOL
@anonymeente594 Жыл бұрын
Nice work as always mate, check out the settings for your transmitter (the thing on the brake lever), some have the option to set "expo", meaning the servo will ramp up in throw, the further you actuate it.
@timmykowalczykowski5840 Жыл бұрын
You are slowly Stepping into 3D printing territory Blake, I bet you would love it!
@jackson20tb Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Looking forward to the second version; it's bound to be even better! 👍
@lwittrock1 Жыл бұрын
Blakes "Frankenbrakes" are pretty cool! We need to hear Blake Scream, "Give my breaks life!"
@tees_trials Жыл бұрын
Another pearler! 😂 Absolute madness… You could change the pull ratio on the servo arm to change the modulation… the closer the cable is fastened to the servo output shaft, the slower and smaller the stroke of the caliper, it will increase the maximum pressure the servo can deliver to the caliper too 👍 Can’t wait to see v2 😊
@kevinhughes8567 Жыл бұрын
Amazing job, Blake! Thinking outside the box is how we move forward.
@dantom877 Жыл бұрын
Congrats Blake, that's absolutely amazing 🤯. You made that look too easy. 🎉🥳
@MaciejZawadzki-eMZi Жыл бұрын
Blake, if you're gonna struggle with the soullessness of the feel of levers then research this: "Load cell". In Sim racing it does wonders on brake pedals because data comes from the amount of pressure/load applied rather than travel of the lever.
@northwestmountainbikeaddic6874 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had this idea for years , but never thought I’d see this made !😮
@HasanIbrahim147 Жыл бұрын
Negative expo is your friend to tune out the sensitivity from the levers. Not sure if your choice of radio transmitter has that option but that will be the way to go - that’s what we do when we are doing high speed runs on overpowered RC cars that can go well over 200kph. Just like driving a RC car, you develop the sense of “brake feel” over time. Great proof of concept Blake! Even at your otherworldly skill level - please stay safe!!!
@JeffMTBinVA Жыл бұрын
This is amazing Blake. I haven't read all the comments but I hope you have a patent and are getting calls from SRAM! You need to get paid!
@PNWmtnBKR Жыл бұрын
Brilliant and fun. Definitely need a part 2.
@bensmtb Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I love the prototype can do spirit behind all of this. Well done.
@RobySVK Жыл бұрын
Awesome job Blake! I am into RC for over 20 yrs and seen a lot of RC planes with rc operated brakes. Was thinking how to transform this idea into MTB. Thise TRP brakes solved the missing link :) never seen them before. If you are for Version 2.0 think about - modulation (different spring rate for controller lever), servo throw (exponential rate on controller) - it's the same as if you'd use Sram lever on Shimano caliper... However the best usage would be on Spectral:ON and those servos be powered from the main battery via USB port - this would solve possible run out of battery scenarios when riding. ❤ props for your work!
@pmiller7886 Жыл бұрын
TRP brakes are amazingly durable and eliminate allllll of the faffing about with brake bleeding etc needed for full hydro brakes. I have commented numerous times on GCN about how outstanding they are. Got no traction or comments back from presenters as they are not sponsored kit. I am a Clydesdale rider and if they can stop me from mid 20 mph range, they are not to be sneezed at. Run them on mountain and road bikes. Top it all of with, they are cheap..like the budgie!
@gdemorest7942 Жыл бұрын
I made my custom 36er bike with zero cable stops in anticipation of a future wireless braking system,. I'm ready! It already has a SRAM Eagle AXS rear derailleur.
@kennethcampbell7263 Жыл бұрын
This, without the lockout, is exactly what I have wanted for years. Yes to the MkII
@brandonkelsey3129 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a mk.II! This might be the best Blake Builds video yet!
@yard2380 Жыл бұрын
I think everybody wanted to see this madness. :) You now have validated the concept, I expect this to be on market by industry leaders within 4 years, in about 8 years it is mainstream, and in about 12 years it is the standard. I have been wrong about many things, so don't take my word for it. :D Still: such a clean bar. :)
@metus513 Жыл бұрын
Hi, you could stop the popping of the controler by making the lever longer and puting there a spring facing outwards. The spring would push the lever out and it would also make a little bit of modulation posible. I thing that you could use suspencion from RC micro crawlers. I hope you make a part 2 and sorry for gramatics.
@adamsmith2484 Жыл бұрын
100% need a Mk 2 - BBW is definitely the way ahead - cable-less is the future, just need to find a way to program in brake feel into it, great effort Blake!
@junka1975 Жыл бұрын
Awesome effort Blake. A little spacer inserted to stop the rear lever dropping and locking up should help. Phase 2, absolutely give it a go. I still want to see Crab phase 2. You could call it the lobster. 😎👍
@ddogancay Жыл бұрын
Great job! Maybe try making the levers longer. It'll help with the modulation I think...
@thewoodjedi1 Жыл бұрын
LOL not to surprised to see this, But blown away you did it ! and in your garage ! Well Done ! Lets hope Shimano watches GMBN . Wont be too soon!
@eliegaragnon4864 Жыл бұрын
Blake, to solve the modulation issue you can add springs at the lever and between the servo and the caliper (it will transform the position control you have on the servo into a force modulation). And with the right spring rates combination between the one at the lever an the one at the caliper you could achieve a feel almost identical to the one you would get with a cable between the lever and the caliper.
@andyarchitect Жыл бұрын
Super cool proof of concept. I expect a Super refined version will become reality on top spec bikes in the next few years but I'm less convinced it will become mainstream for at least another 10+ years.
@ajcbituin Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this the other day, with all the wireless shifting we have now. Maybe the big brands are also doing in secret. 😊 would be sick to see it all and improved! Wireless and clean cockpit!!!
@tomdrums4607 Жыл бұрын
As a rear brake only system, i could dig this. Some force feedback on the lever, like the ps5 controller triggers and the front brake staying hydraulic through the stem. Bar spins and tailwhips for on the mountain bike!
@bradweaver6124 Жыл бұрын
I'd love a full cableless cockpit. I have no doubt that if and when wireless brakes come out, the lever feel will be the biggest selling point from one company to another. That will take the most R&D to get right, IMO.
@SprSonik13 Жыл бұрын
this is the content I come to GMBN for!!!
@adamgav16 ай бұрын
@gmbn for the mk2 use a higher quality radio at the lever end. This will allow you to fine tune the servo travel via the 'end point' setting. That way the full 'lever' stroke will only move the servo the specified amount creating a larger window of modulation.
@jamiewilliams4506 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant concept do a second version i reckon your onto something big and manufactures should take note on what youve produced Blakes brakes 💪✊️😉
@lucasdelapp Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious! Here's an idea though for the feel of the levers: What if you put a stiff spring on the lever and adjusted the trim of the servo to match the progression of the spring so it wouldn't be so touchy and lock up? Maybe even make like a stop to to where you can trim out the servo for your specific body weight.
@ENDUROMASIVO Жыл бұрын
Woooow amazing Blake! This is the next component to pass to Wireless like the AXS ...
@timgarland5949 Жыл бұрын
Best GMBM video in a loooooooong time. Well done.
@DanielMiller-fy5ip Жыл бұрын
I like how “wireless” in this context actually means adding a lot of wires
@brentmc79 Жыл бұрын
Depending on what radio system you're using, you could use a single transmitter on the bars and use a separate channel for each brake. That would result in one less battery. A faster servo would probably help, something that can mimic the same speed as you pulling the lever. This was really cool and probably a lot of fun to build.
@picodegallo1959 Жыл бұрын
In thinking some more about it. These would be awesome on something like a tri bike- whether hands are in aero or on the hoods you can shift your electronic gears or, coming into a turn, apply the brakes no matter your hand position. This can be great.
@AKIOTV Жыл бұрын
Instead of using the servo to pull the cable, use a strong spring to do that. Then, use the servo to actually *release* the brake. That way the system is fail safe, so if there's no power or the servo breaks, it applies the brake.
@piast99 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure what is worse - sudden loss of brakes or sudden uncommanded braking.
@AKIOTV Жыл бұрын
@@piast99 Good point. Perhaps you could have different systems for the front/rear wheel. Use fail safe at the back, but not at the front. (so it won't send you otb on power failure)
@EricF1984 Жыл бұрын
When I first saw the teaser on Instagram, I was skeptical. I thought how is an RC servo going to provide enough torque to pull a cable actuated brake? Then you pull out these cable actuated hydro calipers. I didn't even know that was a thing. The way you pulled the guts from an RC remote and then fabbed it all together is amazing. I cant believe you rode with them down those trails. You must have rode them long enough around the neighborhood first to build some confidence. That would be freaky to not have the finger feedback. As others said though, you can probably add a stiff spring and that would give the similar feedback. This was a realy cool video. Nice job Blake.
@julianallen515 Жыл бұрын
Keep going on a mark 2 please. Imagine how clean an AXS or Di2 bike would be with wireless brakes. No need for finicky internal cable/hose routing!! Mind blown.
@beauharvey8138 Жыл бұрын
It will definitely become a thing in the next few years as brands start making and testing them until they are fully trustworthy. Nice job managing to make that work
@jonathanlindup3269 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently running an rc system I made for my electric paddle board on my e8000, electronics were toast so I wired an rc helicopter speed controller directly to the motor then I used a cable brake lever to operate the transmitter which is in my bar bag, 6s brick size battery in a tank bag works surprisingly well!
@DoughtyWolf Жыл бұрын
Amazing video Blake, version 2 or wireless brakes 2.0 yes please, would be great to see a more compact version on bikes in shops in the future, something maybe to charge from the spin of the wheel, no battery maybe. Loved this video and idea(cableless/fully wireless bike)!
@snat6299 Жыл бұрын
Awesome creation and shows your talent beyond just riding.
@kidShibuya Жыл бұрын
Next level: pressure sensors behind the calipers which feeds back data to the force feedback levers for excellent feel.
@swerv512 Жыл бұрын
As an RC enthusiast, big thumbs up!
@olrenison Жыл бұрын
He who dares, wins. Blake is winning right now 😊👌
@zakgor04 Жыл бұрын
Such a sick creation I think giving it to sam pilgrim would be the ultimate test for them
@matejgrim Жыл бұрын
I think this will be the future at some point. The sooner you test it and adress any inperfections, the better! I wanna see a Mk2 version for sure
@milbose Жыл бұрын
Blake, what would really help on modulation is a cam shaped lever arm on the servo actuator. This could be tuned to multiply the torque and the amount of movement as it pulls the cable actuator. Since the lever is producing a linear signal, the cam would allow for a modulated actuation, creating a more natural feel to the brake progression..... maybe? LOL Just a thought as I watched this very cool video. I'd be happy to come back to the UK and work on it with you and ride those Forrest of Dean trails. It's too cold to do much riding here in Canada right now.
@jamiefarrell6496 Жыл бұрын
proper Mad Professor vibes - awesome work, Blake!
@boon9329 Жыл бұрын
If you get a transmitter that lets you add an expo curve on the channel you're using to control the brake lever, then you could maybe use that to fine tune the modulation
@the_spanner_ch7mp Жыл бұрын
That is an insane build Blake 😊🤘 Love Blake Builds 👊 Wireless brakes will become a thing in the future I think but it would have to have a backup battery built in I think. Looks insane having a bike with no cables on it 😂 Awesome stuff Blake and #GMBN 🤘
@Zimblake Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude. Dreams do come true 😅
@the_spanner_ch7mp Жыл бұрын
@@Zimblake please say there's going to be a MK2 version coming in the future 😁 Love your Blake Builds Series 🤘
@droneracer Жыл бұрын
You might be able to program in some Expo (depending on the transmitter) on the lever, it allows the servo travel to be non linear so you can reduce sensitivity when the lever first moves. Motion rc has a vid called. What is Expo.
@antonbell3177 Жыл бұрын
Fair play I've often wondered about this I mean obviously there are some serious considerations here but from a packaging point of view it would be a game changer particularly on aero road bikes, Tri bikes and so on where the hose is still a big compromise.