We Moved Aboard a Catamaran

[@SailingPauHana]

Very nice boat but it seems really strange to see you two in a cat. Good luck and we're looking forward to watching you experiment with your new boat.

[@websurfer44]

Sounds like it was just a charter. I don't think they will be trading in Distant Shores anytime soon. I wonder if the slapping noise was amplified by the boat having so much exposed fiberglass? Most of the Cats I've seen featured on other youtube channels have a lot more wood veneer and trim which might help deaden the sounds. Maybe with ten people and supplies on board the boat simply road too low in the water; or it might be something I'll have to weight into my decision process if I ever get a boat....

[@websurfer44]

I see they've done this before at least once and enjoyed the boat much more. Episode called "Chartering a Catamaran in the BVI" from Oct 21, 2016...

[@SailingPauHana]

I think they did sell Distant Shores II. I think I remember seeing an article about them moving on to a cat.

[@websurfer44]

Ok, I'm sure we'll know either way soon enough.

[@SailingPauHana]

Yup, Im sure we will. Paul does not look thrilled to be on a cat does he? ;-)

[@icebear1559]

Love the video. But like many I disagree on the cons on Cats. I have sailed and raced all types of mono hulls from 24' racers to 110' 92 ton ketches. And seen lots of nasty weather. We chose a cat for the following reasons. Most cruising is off the wind and off the wind our cat is faster then an equal or greater length mono. It has more room for the length. I can say with hand on heart. That a beer can does not tip over on the table in 6ft seas down wind. And if your going cruising. You spend more time at anchor then sailing. This is where a cat is awesome. It does not roll anywhere as bad as a mono. And the hull slap is easy to get used to. Because we are normally there quicker. And it's an up wind issue not a down wind issue in our boat. We also have had no issue with space in the Med for our 21' wide Privledge as most new mono hums 50' and up are the same width as us. We are talking fat butt boats.🙂 But Paul is an experienced sailor and people will buy what they like and they should. But if I'm cruising I like a cat. If I'm racing I'll take a J109 or J120. Like everyone. This is just my two cents. Take it or leave it. We should all be happy however we sail.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Definitely agree about anchoring! It was very nice sitting perfectly level at anchor... very happy!

[@thegrayknight71]

Thank you for your answer sir. You managed to calm my nerves a bit. :) As a beginner in sailing i think there's a lot of strange noices on a sailing boat but i guess you get used to it.

[@cheery274]

We went to the BVI in 2014 and I was amazed at how many cats there are compared to monos in comparison to the Med. They are a lot more sociable with big spaces. Good video demonstrating the ease of sailing as well.

[@SailBeforeSunset]

Just a few of the reasons why we're glad we've chosen a heavy-displacement mono-hull. And yes, yet another great cruising vid!

[@annahegquist2226]

We sailed the same boat for 2 weeks last year our of Sopers Hole with Voyage Charters. That boat is very well appointed and has a luxurious feel when onboard. It was slower than I had hoped doing about half the true wind speed but the charter version is has a small sail plan and is already weighted down before you put your gear onboard. Onboard systems were also less than reliable, not too much of a problem in the BVI when the charter company gets to fix everything. I'd hate to own those problems myself. I'd call this a great charter boat for close passages. Comfortable and easy on the eyes. On the way to Anegada, everyone will be passing you by, which is more of a problem for some people (like me) than others.

[@mikecat3882]

thanks for the input, this shows basically that a sailboat has its compromises. Like an RV. Buy what for where you will use it, and whom you will use it with. I am willing to bet that once trimarans builders , especially folding tris, realize the tremendous potentials , it will indeed be the best compromise. good sailing and i enjoy watching your travels. cheers

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

3 hulls > 2 > 1 (and add even mild foils for better performance)

[@nicholasroberds752]

Best sailing channel I've found yet - thanks for such documentary quality videos!

[@DistantShoresTV]

Thanks Nicholas! Glad you're enjoying 'em!

[@ronrichardson2405]

The banging. Years ago power type catamarans also banged. Plus the windage??? I liked them too. Also too good luck.

[@simoncorporation3]

I appreciate your honesty, not everyone highlights obvious but partly apparent problems like wave slapping noises under way. Thanks for posting.

[@DistantShoresTV]

You're welcome Truth Seeker! Wave banging would be a problem for us underway but chartering in the BVI this boat really was quite nice...

[@timothyblazer1749]

Downwind is where a Cat or Tri shines.. unless its a racing machine.. in which case it will beat any mono head to head under any conditions. Cruising cats and tris are conservatively canvassed for their size, so its harder to get into real trouble. Cats are MUCH better for living space and overall comfort. Monos are much better for rough waters, do better upwind, and carry many more pounds of stores without performance impact. Most production cats don't have enough water to bridgedeck clearance to avoid the banging you experienced. Thats a decision to keep the profile lower at the expense of banging but to lower costs of manufacture. Catanas and Outremers have good clearance. Voyagers, Leopards etc don't.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Agreed! I wish this we had been able to try the cat with a proper downwind sail. On our last transatlantic passage we beat most of the cats because we could go directly downwind and they couldn't.

[@npegg]

The OG channel gets a cat! Most underrated sailing channel on the seas right now.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Hey Nick! I had to look up what was the "OG" :-) We were sailing for 3 weeks... we didn't buy the cat...

[@npegg]

Oh I see. My bad. Love the videos guys! Greetings from rondeau Ontario.

[@brianhorner8349]

I sail my 44' cat with beverage glasses left out on a table all the time. Not in a sea-way but in many conditions. I was NEVER able to do that on any of my monohulls There are a lot of "holes" because the boat you were on had a lot of systems like its 5 heads - each with its own sink and shower drain, plus the galley, the A/C, etc. ANY boat with all that room for crew will have more "holes" than a smaller mono-hull.

[@rudyhdez1212]

Siempre disfruto muchos sus videos, felicidades...!!! pronto me cambiare a las velas....

[@CatamaranImpi]

Wow - that cat sure slams and it seems to echo after the slam - and do I hear clanging of dishes and things in the kitchen ... that would be troubling for us. A 'slam sensation' we experience sounds very different to this and you must have been rather close hauled and not sailing off the wind. Of course the wine in the glass theory works on certain points of sail and not as well when close hauled. We very seldom would get busy with stowing things at sea and very often have tested the 'glass on the table theory' which still amazes us and our guests every time we do - but then again we are sailing mostly with the trades - not against the trades. An enjoyable video guys - keep at it Brent

[@DistantShoresTV]

We were close reaching - not entirely close hauled... I think the bridge deck clearance is a bit too low on the Voyage. I see you have a Lagoon and from our week aboard a Lagoon 380 I don't recall the same bridge deck slamming. Glad you enjoyed the vid :-)

[@CatamaranImpi]

We have the 440 - used to own a Catana 471C but grew up on monohulls - 54 and 65 ft. Sailing past 6 years around the world on the 440 - amazing vessel and sails close to the wind due to short spreaders and genoa track position on the coach roof. Enjoy all your vids guys - great footage, lovely tone and beautiful people. Cheers

[@safethamzagic7226]

have fun guys

[@DistantShoresTV]

Thanks Safet :-)

[@robertsimon5059]

Go for trimaran !

[@jeffreysearle2996]

Other than that mrs Lincoln how did you enjoy the play?

[@robinhilliard]

Recommend Chris White's "The Cruising Multihull" - the bridge deck clearance seems too low (5-6% of waterline length is rule of thumb) and the low window probably there for ventilation in case of capsize.

[@CHEVYSORCROWNS]

I'm 41 and I'm buying an old cat as well as some updating it then taking it across the ocean, I am sooo motivated from this and inspired.

[@juancruz1800]

Why dont you tell us how It went

[@samantha1054]

I use to watch u guys on TV, your European canal tours . Glad I can follow u on utube :). I love Catamarans. U probably would have had a hard time with it, filming and docking in those canals.

[@americanplatano]

WHAT..!!!!! I've been watching your Vids for a long time - This is quite a change, and I think a good one, CONGRATULATIONS..!!

[@SailingSisu]

Hey! You guys are such an inspiration! We started to follow you guys, because we are quitting the rat race too :-) Hope to catch you guys one day somewhere on our adventures with our catamaran!

[@2xtream]

Those waves looked to be 2 to 3 tops...

[@JB-qh6uz]

a washing machine and dryer is a must for a live aboard. i hope you have em

[@DistantShoresTV]

We had a washing machine on our last boat, but not a dryer... do you have these and could recommend one Fuzzy Mittens?

[@tucup]

You can get a special keel attachment that prevents this. It a shallow V shaped panel.

[@Jabsy101]

Due to the rocking, I'd recommend a Cat with Daggerboards if you were intending living aboard and circumnavigating.

[@DistantShoresTV]

I would like to test sail one of the cats with daggerboards...

[@Jabsy101]

Sailed aboard a Outremer 5X for a 10 day journey. Absolute day and night difference. Don't pass up the chance if it presents itself.

[@SailingAndFun]

Well done!

[@GoofieNewfie69]

Yup, some cats have low clearance, especially over loaded performance cats. When looking for one lode it down and you still be able to go under with the dingy. People talk a lot about speed, it's a sailboat, want speed, get a motor boat.I liked my PDQ36

[@Billy_Darley]

very cool episode. i never knew you could encounter such loud annoying noises with a catamaran. i love the stability and space a cat offers but mono's are cheaper and from what it sounds like faster too.

[@whateverwhatever3249]

yep too low... and if its carbon fiber it's like a drum... makes one hell of a noise...

[@frizzle1964]

What a smart Aleck comment from Steve. Wonder how many times he has sailed the world compared to you guys? Love your videos. Keep up the good work

[@robynwilson6507]

Please be careful !!! I’m so saddened by the Virginia couple who went missing in Grenada.

[@mullholand]

Try a Lagoon 440 - you might be surprised at the difference compared to the Voyage.

[@SuperMrminecraftdude]

1:47 holy crap wtf was that? a wave? sounded like you hit a rock or something... people have always said that catamarans have small but rough movements over the waves but thats just nuts...

[@DistantShoresTV]

Yupp that was the sound of hitting a wave... and the seas were not large as you could see :-(

[@walterstrong6386]

This is an old style cat with a low bridge deck.

[@katherine2969]

Hello Distant Shores and thank you for the great videos Please keep them coming! We had the great pleasure of sailing with friends in the Exumas and Eleutheras on their Cat. For the last 15 years we have sailed the Chesapeake on our 1965 Alburg, Marita. We love her and maintain her well. In 10 year time we would like to retire and sail down to the Caribbean and then cross to the Mediterranean. We plan to study up and do some off shore sails. I realize that bay sailing and the blue are two different situations and we have a lot to learn and much to prepare. We have Marita surveyed periodically (She's solid) and can upgrade her as needed. Distant Shores and Fans here is my question, Do you think its possible that a a well maintained 1965 Alburg could sail the blue in 2027? Thanks! Katherine

[@DistantShoresTV]

The Alberg is a good boat and the hulls were well built. If you update the systems she should be fine. We sailed our Classic 37 across the Atlantic 3 times... See link here www.distantshores.ca/about-us/the-boats/twostep/

[@katherine2969]

Sheryl and Paul thank you so much!!! I will keep dreaming, planning and preparing. I have watched your crossings and they are wonderful examples. I will keep watching Distant Shores as you continue your sailing dream. Sheryl, I greatly admire your pluck. If you would like to see Marita, check out my pinterest page at Kacky sailor girl. God bless, good karma and blue dreams! - Katherine

[@davefoster6767]

I heard mentions of the slapping on the bottom before. How can you mitigate that?

[@sm6wet]

I am sorry you had a bad experience on that catamaran. I have not personally set foot on that brand but I seen some things on it indicating the design was somewhat old and not up to date. Worst example was the vey low freeboard between the hulls. No wonder you had slapping noise. Next time try a more modern cat with a freeboard of about 90cm or more. Always enjoy your videos.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Thanks sm6wet! Yes we'll see if we can get a passage on a Catana perhaps with more freeboard.

[@glenntepe1]

sm6wet , the voyage 500 is about as modern as they come. I'm surprised that he couldn't get more speed... I ran from the north sound up to Anegada on a voyage 440 at a top speed of 14 knots.

[@sm6wet]

Hello Glenn, Well, the last year they made the 500 model was in 2010 and lots happened the last 7 years. Anyhow, those slapps you had could have reduced the speed by 50%. I recoemnd you to try one of the more famous production cats from France or South Africa like Lagoon, Fountain Pajot or Leopard. After that try an Outremer and a St Francis 50. You will note a world of difference to the not so good experiance with Voyage 500. This is also quite a good read about Bridgedeck clearance on cats. catamaranguru.com/images/pdf/%20catamaran_bridgedeck_clearance.pdf Cheers from Sweden

[@glenntepe1]

Sm6wet, Voyage hasn't redesigned there hulls since 2010 I was on the dock last year when they delivered a brand new 580 and other than the extra feet and an extra cabin she is identical. Voyage yachts are designed for speed and they are fast. I've got eight weeks under my belt on a lagoon 450, couple weeks on a lagoon 380, a few on the 440. Lagoons are nice, but not terribly fast, the 450 was by far my favorite of the lagoons. I've sailed the new leopards up to 47 feet, my favorite are the older leopard 47s... done the Katana... not my favorite. I've chartered a Saba 50 this winter for six weeks, looking forward to that... tons of room on that boat!

[@sm6wet]

ok, so maybee you can confirm then that all the banging and other sounds of the cat of this Movie is not normal on cats in this size. Well, I dont know when Voyage last made a revision on their hull designs but I know the 500 is no longer in make and that the last 500 was made in 2010 and the hull design is probably from the early 2000. I am looking forward to hear what you liked the Saba. There are not many Reviews. I like the interior design as well as exteriors but there is forum people saying she is really slow but did not hear from anyone who actually sailed her.

[@NormanconEVE]

Awesome video. Are there more cons than pro for long distance catamaraning? It looks more stable but as you said. you had to run by the numbers more then anything.

[@RobFomenko]

That bridge deck slamming would get to me quick ! The motion on the cat i'm not a fan of either. Don't know why a small boat needs that many cabins or heads either. Every time I think about a cat, these issues come up. I like the speed they have, and the large cockpit, the large foredeck, but the rest, not so much. And yeah, sail by the numbers is fine until you forget cause your exhausted, seasick or just plain preoccupied and then what.... At least your monohull will heel and spill the wind. And even with a knockdown, will come back up mostly intact. Just can't see me having one. But thanks for the vid.

[@TheProfessorThump]

I am surprised you were not convinced that the Cat was the way to go. Was it mainly the ride you didn't like?

[@ronbye2400]

So what happen to the Southerly? By the looks of things you are not endeavored to a catamaran. I don't know how old that boat is, but compared to your Southerly, I take the Southerly in this case. If it was a newer cat, such as a Leopard or an Outreimer I am sure the experience would be better.

[@matthewwright57]

The port that leaks, is for you to escape from if the boat is upside down.

[@DistantShoresTV]

It was just port light size - 5-12 inches ...

[@matthewwright57]

Oh thats weird, in that case its totally pointless.

[@DistantShoresTV]

I agree... there is a larger hatch in the floor in the centre of the main saloon ... that one is big enough for escaping . I should have showed that one too :-)

[@bowwave59]

Distant Shores TV do you have any waterproof lighting for your escape. Always best to have something to hand to see with and works underwater.

[@elonbaartar9468]

what do you think about the new lagoon 42?

[@BambaMaru]

Cool video! I love the voyage catamarans. Apparently we missed you guys in Antigua just for a few days. Would have been great to chat a bit and to have a look on your awesome swing keel mono Distant Shores III. Did you beached the boat in Antigua or does it just look like that in the picture from Brian on Delos?

[@DistantShoresTV]

Yes we ran her up on the beach as Brian +SVDELOS was filming. Fun!

[@hughsmith4008]

Does a Catamaran have a hull speed?

[@trashman1358]

Hi there, I would love to go sailing around the world but can't afford it... Yep, couch captain... But after watching several channels who are sailing around the world I've come to the following conclusion - and my question is, am I right? From the couch perspective it looks like cats are really good if you want to go and see the world... Faster or more comfy depending what you buy, more time in harbour, better for socialising, more space... But watching SV Vagabond they tend to watch the wind speeds and change sails based on that rather than the feel of the cat. Whereas the mono hulls are more for the sailors - heeling, banging around, 'feeling' the boat and changing sails as appropriate (SV Bora Bora change the sails config to gain more stability) and there definitely appears to be a fear factor on a mono hull... I own a motorbike and a car - no fear factor in the car, tons on the bike... So there is more sailing involved on a mono hull. Am I in the right ball park in my thinking? See the world, buy a cat, wanna go experience sailing buy a mono hull. If anyone decides to reply who actually knows though personal experience... Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[@DistantShoresTV]

Agreed 100% Trashman. Our experience on one atlantic crossing with a Cat (and 8 on monos) says cat sailing on cruising boats is more "by the numbers" than "by the feeling".

[@trashman1358]

@@DistantShoresTV Thank you ever so much for your answer! Mono all the way for me - but I can see why folk would prefer a cat. Each to their own :)

[@Silent_Joy]

Nice video, have you tried sailing downwind? I understand thats where the money's worth on long passage...like being on rails.

[@DistantShoresTV]

We had trouble downwind... swept spreaders meant we couldn't use the main much past 120 degrees apparent. We only had the small jib. Best setup is to have a second larger Code 0 or Asymmetric Spinnaker perhaps on a furler. Most charter cats don't come with these however :-(

[@AndysEastCoastAdventures]

Very nice but unpopular in the uk due to their size as our marinas tend to be tight on space. Not sure if ideal for round the world cruisers either as they don't recover from a knock down.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Yes I agree many of the places we have cruised the cats would have a hard time finding dockage. UK Scandinavia Mediterranean... and more... but good for the Caribbean :-)

[@Jmmondeau]

Thank you for your thoughts on the Cats. I feel Distant Shore is the best boat in the world because of its shallow draft, but the roominess of the cats still taunts me.

[@Airportnomad]

Hi guys what camera are you using paul when in the saloon/galley? It's didn't alter exposure from the galley to the view outside amazing! Thanks

[@DistantShoresTV]

Glad you liked it James. We shot with the Sony A7SII and our GoPro5 plus also our iPhone7Plus. Not sure which camera was used in the galley shots... possibly the Osmo stabilizer holding the iP7+

[@ParrotSailor]

All I can say is that there is alot of whinging going on about the preference of sailors for monos.... People buy what they like. Get over it

[@Gariel2007]

"One of our friends even brought a ukulele... he is of course no longer welcome here."

[@slyr1]

I cant stand that banging noise get a Lagoon or fountain-p I am new to sailing looking forward to sailing one day but trying to decide between a mono haul and a cat I am leaning more towards a CAT.......what would you recommend

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Fountaine Pajot or Lagoon are probably good choices, or at least a good starting point to check out. Catamarans vs Monohulls are somewhat apples and oranges. They don't really compare directly.

[@wincrasher2007]

I'm sure if this boat was in BVI, it was lost in Irma.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Sadly I think you are right wincrasher2007... very tough times and I hope they can recover.

[@Deceptor]

I haven't seen much cat sailing but remember pictures from back in the days where you always saw them laying flipped over in the water. Is that something of the past or maybe it was old racing catamarans? What i'm trying to ask, are they safe or can the tip over? 😱

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Any boat can flip. Catamarans can float when inverted. Monohulls with heavy keels are more likely to sink on the way to inverting. So you don't see the latter as often. Google "perceptual bias".

[@Deceptor]

Thank you :)

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

Also, racing catamarans are more likely to capsize than cruising ones, sort of like a sports car is more likely to flip over than a motor home.

[@SK22000]

I wondered how catamarans handled

[@westonbadke5434]

I love cats. I recommend one with a newer mid hull design, that's not as flat. larger cats are better for space needs of chartering or liveability. while smaller Lagoon 380/400 series are perfect for short day trips where speed and agility are important.

[@DistantShoresTV]

We did do a video of a week aboard a Lagoon 380... very nice boat kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIWrkqSgostqpq8

[@MidnightVisions]

Cats smaller than 45 feet seem to ride rougher than larger ones. Lagoon Great Circles 52ft cat has better handling qualities.

[@andrearamosramos134]

what cat is that? very pretty

[@Lawiah0]

My boat uses training hulls. >:)

[@pestiz727]

Catamarans are great , if I had the money , I would own one , but until than i sail a monohull , and charter a cat for few weeks a year . Modern catamarans do not have these problems like banging ,lack of storage etc. Not all cats are the same , there are performance oriented ones like Gunboat , or apartment on water like Lagoon , obviously the sailing experience will be different on them .

[@sailingserenity5268]

You seem a tad judgemental about the cat! Obviously two totally different animals. I don't have enough experience to say much, but the square footage has got to be mesmerizing I would assume. You mention using numbers vs feel to reef sails. It's tough to imagine not relying on feeling observations, but I guess I do that with the trim on my I/O runabout and it's fine. Just a matter of trusting the instruments I guess. I've heard that once or twice. Nice video! Thanks!

[@ZoneTelevision]

I'd prefer a Trimaran. All the characteristics of monohull. Not as roomy inside as a CAT but that's the trade off. . I believe they are typically fasters than CATS. (GunBoats and a few others being the exception.)

[@shibumi5210]

I guess this cat is one of the really bad examples of the dreaded "slamming" from waves bashing into the hull. I love the idea of a cat, but have never sailed in one- is there a minimum size to avoid slamming, or is it just a function of hull design? : /

[@shibumi5210]

If you want something as fast (or faster!) than a mono charter a Gunboat next time... : ) Thirty knots sitting in the saloon behind a window steering the boat- oh hell yeah... (insert drooling emoticon here)

[@DistantShoresTV]

As ML L says there are guidelines so you could evaluate proper bridge deck clearance... one source says 20% of the span between hulls

[@seccat]

I think you maybe running heavy, with 10 people and all those picture frames. That's maybe why you running low in the water.

[@yousuxalot]

so looks like you prefer a monohaul over the cat?

[@billhanna8838]

No iv owned Cats , Trys & Monos from 24 ft. to 68 ft. & the only time i've had to change my undies was on the multies . They do have there place & are great to live on With 'some' purposely designed for off shore BUT the average cat Hmm

[@lucyk66uk]

Not an impartial review on a poor Cat.

[@00godlovesus]

Best choice;)

[@SailPalarran]

Personally I've never liked Voyage Catamarans. They have always had too low of bridgedeck clearance and are total plastic both inside and out. In the short video it appears that the boat was ready for a refit. Now as some have pointed out, it was probably lost to Irma or Maria. I've watched many of your shows over the years and enjoyed them. They are a good combination of travel and sailing, probably the best series yet. But it does seem that you are pretty judgemental with your comments or simply haven't sailed a good catamaran. When you get a chance to sail a better performance cat, one that goes more than 6 knots SOG in 35 knots at 45 degrees apparent, make another video please. As a little observation, your boom was centered too much and the main left too lose for those conditions, IMO. Here is a video I made this last September. I think it gives a better impression of how a boat of similar length should respond to high wind situations. We were at 90 degrees apparent and much, much rougher seas. In fact, do you have a video of your old Southerly in conditions like these to compare? It would be interesting. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5rEf4irrrSMa6s

[@dalesdingen]

30knts and no lifevests on??

[@walterstrong6386]

That's either a poorly designed cat or it's overloaded. He did say the bridge deck was quite low and that's going to cause problems just about every time. I'm guessing there's not a new cat on the market today with that flaw.

[@zzzxxzzz4797]

Ten people on distant shores sounds stupid , guess it was best to be on that old 🐈 cat . If you didn't like that cat , try a 60 ft gunboat or a balance 526 ! They would out sail your mono hull in any wind in comfort !

[@StartVisit]

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[@hunsadersrockinranch]

If you say so. I'd rath be on a monohull in a huge storm. Cats flip and stay flipped.

[@StartVisit]

in huge storm i rather be on land ))

[@hunsadersrockinranch]

@@StartVisit You don't get that opportunity 2,000 miles out at sea though.

[@jcameronhollis]

So sad seeing 80% of the charter cats in the Caribbean damaged and destroyed. Bad for the environment. Also bad for the insured as we pay back the losses via rate increases. We couldn't possibly ask the industry to pay for the losses with their record profits. That would be selfish of us.😉. Good for the boat building and repair industry.

[@stupidjonny]

Ok guys allow me to enter the Cat vs mono hulls debate, based on a lot of data gathered from the history of Polynesia, some of the earliest sailboats were outriggers and there is some evidence that catamarans may have shown up very early in the pacific. That being said, I think anyone would say that the first culture to master open ocean sailing is definitely the Polynesians, and let's keep in mind, they used catamarans. Essentially Thor Heyerdahl's Kon tiki raft was more of a primitive catamaran than a mono hull, and we know he crossed the pacific in that.

[@capecaution6288]

If you're gonna compare a cat to a monohull, you really need to sail a modern cat. Today's designs and layouts are so much improved over the cat you sailed. Hull slaps are almost non existent. Next time, try one of those on for size.

[@Grandpacarlreacts]

Once you go cat you never go back. I think the bug has bitten. Lol. As usual great video thanks for sharing guys. It does sound like you are trying to talk yourself out of a cat.

[@ParrotSailor]

Not my thing. I dont like the motion or the micro cabins or the clorox meets cardboard interior

[@Grandpacarlreacts]

Here it goes, the great cat vs mono debates. Lol. It all comes down to the person. I would love a Lagoon 440. Cant afford one, so I will be sailing in a smaller Monohull.

[@Josef_R]

Grandpa's Farm Goes Sailing Didn't sound at all like he was trying to talk himself out of it. It was clear he didn't like much about it and prefers his monohull. Then there's the fact you have an abundance of space and can't actually put anything on it, or it won't sail.

[@ParrotSailor]

And I can afford one and don't want one.Sad day for cats I guess

[@Josef_R]

Eric So you think cats and tris aren't sailboats, huh?

[@davidowen1259]

i dont want to be picky, but i really prefer your direct style when you talk to the camera rather than your narrating voice...(which is just fine and way better than i could ever do). just my preference.

[@enejetmili7646]

If I have money one day that’s what I would buy

[@LoanwordEggcorn]

30 knots? Stay in port...

[@nattsurfaren]

Thought: Hydrofoil = Steady = Sleep

[@tendreaudacieux]

NOPE !!! ...... :)

[@nattsurfaren]

Explain please?

[@tendreaudacieux]

Speed = NOISE Speed = higher risk of hitting any floating risk particularly, if you have been racing, CONTAINER at the air/ sea level

[@nattsurfaren]

So based on the video this is not a catamaran for racing. It's a small size yacht catamaran and he had the problem that the boat was hitting the sea in such a way it would give a hard thump noise. With hydrofoil when doing a longer trip people that are not steering the boat would not experience these thumps and they would be able to sleep better and the boat would run steady in the waves.

[@goldwing987]

Judging cats by sailing that boat would be like judging driving by testing a twenty year old Buick. Sail a Outremer or Catana put up the code D and enjoy reaching at twenty knots and consistently sailing at 90% of TWS. Nobody reaches with the main up accept charters.

[@DistantShoresTV]

I am hoping to test a better performing catamaran this summer... I admire the Catana :-)

[@dmacraedarkie]

David Benore I

[@nitramjc1]

Just from what I have seen so far, your last boat was far superior. This one moves too much and makes too much noise. What fun is that? .................. None!

[@georgemoore7196]

I am shocked about the banging sounds on your cat while you are underway. Why does no one else talk about this? It would be completely unacceptable for me.

[@DistantShoresTV]

Me too :-) George I am hopeful some cats would suffer less from this if they have more bridge clearance ...

[@georgemoore7196]

Yes, but even with more bridge clearance, will you not get the same banging sounds when the seas are higher? I am really shocked about this.

[@steve0680657]

Who needs 5 toilets! 🚻 🚽⛵ ?

[@charlesbake6647]

Long after the trip, but whining about wave noise gets way too old.

[@loua.1462]

Grandpa was right---if you would rather opt for a mono, given a choice, it's most likely because you simply can't afford the Cat, or have been listening to the wrong people, or were raised with the belief that Mono's are the only choice for sailboats. I simply can't understand why if someone were to have a FREE choice between 2 excellent boats---one a Cat and the other a Mono---why on Earth would anyone prefer a Mono!? That's just silly. And especially if you consider for living aboard, or have a family! Come on! The criticisms given in the video are given as if wholesale for ALL Cats! That's ridiculous. Like anything, you need to shop around---and certainly try shopping for something from the last decade or two. ----I guess some people like small campers while others prefer those 'home on wheels' out there---or wait a sec, that's because of cost, isn't it?--lol---Again, if one had a FREE choice only the dummies would prefer that small camper. I'ts the expense that makes the difference. End of story. There really is no debate---it is what it is---you are what you are---choose what you wish, but be honest in your reasons. Preference is one thing, but in general comparing side by side, it's a no-brainer, the Cat wins hands down, once again, especially as a liveaboard and/or for families. It's beyond me how those in Mono's seem to forget that comfort is a good thing. A comfortable Mono? Sure---if you have no choice you can make it that somehow, but it's certainly not the norm. To those bound to refute what I say...you are what you are...your choice is your choice. I'll see you in a Cat someday I'll bet. :)

[@DistantShoresTV]

You're right we need to test a different cat. I don't think I categorically described cats as all having the problems we had on the Voyage. And certainly if you have a family aboard the cat makes sense. For many people the cat works great which is why the boat was perfect for a group. You do have to be careful not to fill up all that great storage space on the cat though or she'll be overloaded slow and even lower in the water. At the end of the day I guess you're right that some people will always prefer a mono and some a cat... see you out there 😊

[@russrusselson2136]

you are cracking me up lol

[@edwardricciardelli1468]

5feet??????? Not in my world. Try 1 foot

[@wolfpak8228]

Must be rich

[@terryzammit7605]

cats are not my favorite

[@brettney72]

PERSONALLY NOT MY FAV CAT

[@SuperMagoo2011]

You have no idea how to sail a catamaran

[@DistantShoresTV]

We did our best... what do you recommend Steve?

[@SuperMagoo2011]

Next time you could invite me along :-) I won the national championships on my cat so could rig and sail yours they way it requires.