We need to talk about Brexit | FT Film

[@RafaelW8]

People don't want to talk about Brexit, because they don't want to face the responsibility for their own actions.

[@roelkomduur8073]

Exactly! That's why the're al saying that they were "Fooled" In other words, "Don't blame me, they did the thinking for me ' .Any idiot could see this happen,close borders, you kill trade.

[@kieran777]

I voted Brexit the ft is a remain paper ,and problem is the political class have wasted are chance of getting a good deal with the eu ,I’m quite happy to take responsibility as I thought we would lose 10 % of are gdp

[@marksimons8861]

There's also the fear of splitting the country in two all over again, and for no benefit to anyone at this stage. Reversing Brexit is currently completely out of the question. It will take mass unemployment, famine and a peasant uprising in the red wall seats to get it back on the agenda again.

[@KIRKD]

@@kieran777 in English please?

[@ChristopherPhillips]

You mean Starmer doing all he could to break the foundations of Democracy by trying to nullify the outcome?

[@benjaminfarrar6605]

27 minutes of people asking for things they used to have when they were in the EU. Cool.

[@themodfather9382]

Weird disgusting comments. Brexit was never implemented

[@andreagv3]

Yup, and then you have all these imperial nostalgists with wool on their eyes, still dreaming of the days when Britain could bully, abuse, and plunder half the world with impunity... really pathetic and funny the blindness of these people.

[@adamdickinson2894]

So what's your point?

[@CptMuttonchops]

​@@adamdickinson2894not sure what the point is, but the schaudenfreude is ✋😔👌

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

​@@adamdickinson2894That it's hilarious.

[@mattiwarsaw]

I always admire British politicians' ability to talk bulshit in such an incredibly stylish way..

[@ninadiamant8937]

There should be a separate category at the Oscars

[@dlodeprojuicer]

😂😂

[@loneprimate]

​@@ninadiamant8937 The Oscars are for actual actors, not mere delusional dreamers.

[@Itsunobaka]

haha, well said

[@jamesfrancis2574]

Yes like any other country's politicians don't do exactly the same.

[@yono666]

The UK wanting to be outside the EU and then SHOCKED & OUTRAGED when being treated as any other country outside the EU is best represented by the pickachu face meme

[@SnorriTheLlama]

If there were ever a better advert against direct democracy, with the problems demonstrated of uninformed voters having to make specialist decisions without requisite training, knowledge and information. Well atleast we weren’t given a vote on whether to raid the Netherlands for Covid vaccinations…

[@zafiroshin]

As a European I have to thank our brit brothers. Thanks to you now it's so clear to everyone in Europe how stupid is the idea of leaving the European Union that our politicians stopped talking about it. Thanks a lot, really. You took a bullet for all of us.

[@eddiecalderone]

Europe is not the creation of the Treaty of Rome. Nor is the European idea the property of any group or institution. We British are as much heirs to the legacy of European culture as any other nation. Our links to the rest of Europe, the continent of Europe, have been the dominant factor in our history.

[@FeScully]

@@eddiecalderoneUK is still Europe but decided not walk beside the European countries anymore

[@CoralWatches]

@@eddiecalderone please, when you refer to Europe as "the Continent", it really shows that you have pushed away the idea of a european identity as a nation.

[@RagingGoblin]

@@CoralWatchesI have to agree here. The British, with the English being the worst offender by far, have always held a certain view of exceptionalism. By jingo, hurray Britannia and all that. Talking about 'the continent' as if it were a different entity has always irked me, but it didn't really click that the English still pine after their long-lost empire and global relevance this much ... until Brexit.

[@alastair7399]

Glad all this nonsense has had a positive impact somewhere.

[@alexeypilipenko7111]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

[@ChristopherPhillips]

You refer to people that believe some of these quoted stats in the video of course. 4% GDP is a fantasy.

[@peterclareburt4594]

It's also ( unfortunately) easier to criticise people, than get involved and help fix the problems.

[@MrMusicalgenius121]

@@peterclareburt4594 Are you saying we should help the people who knowingly created problems fix them?

[@Sean006]

@@peterclareburt4594 the obvious 'fix' is to have closer alignment and rejoin some of the mechanisms we left. If one makes a mistake then it is only sensible to attempt to reverse the damage as much as possible. It's a bit ironic that Remainers who never wanted this mess have to provide the solutions. The son who gets his girlfriend pregnant and now wants mum & dad to 'fix' things....we all know grandparents will be left holding the baby....and it looks disturbing like Boris!!

[@alexeypilipenko7111]

@@peterclareburt4594 I'd like to see successful examples of that too ;)

[@denislejeune9218]

My favorite summary of Brexit comes from another FT video: 'Brexit is the first time in history a country decided to impose sanctions on itself.'

[@WinderTSTon]

😂😂😂

[@someoneno-one7672]

Yes, Brexit is a self-imposed apartheid.

[@gothicgolem2947]

sanctions in exchange for sovreingty you could argue. Im sure other countries have voted for indy before thats made them poorer

[@davidsummer8631]

I bet the person you wrote that doesn't have to experience with issues caused by the freedom of workers brining large amounts of cheap labour in the country

[@archiebald4717]

That is utter nonsense. There are no sanctions whatever.

[@henrikmadsen6446]

From my Danish arm chair I think the two party systems of UK and US are part of the political malfunction. The leadership of the two parties do populism and spin in opposition of the other party rather than setting out the line of the country and discuss the real problems of the country.

[@asddsa28]

yeah at least in the US it made that way so that nothing gets in the way of big bissenis and it be working for to dam long

[@mirfjc]

@@asddsa28 It's been "working" in the UK for even longer (by quite a long way), but the issue is much deeper. It's about the connection between voter decision making and the dissemination of information. Both BREXIT and the MAGA cult are related to significant misinformation systems intentionally at work. 2 party, multi party, written constitution, etc. etc. are all deck-chair rearrangement. In terms of the importance (or not) of features of government, the fact that US and UK do so much organically in lock step (Thatcher/Regan, Clinton/Blair, BREXIT/MAGA) is telling you that structural differences between the systems are of negligible importance. Also, UK strictly is NOT 2 party by design, it simply drives itself to that solution by voter choice (Tory/Whig, Conservative/Liberal, Conservative/Labour). So even that is not important. More significant coupling between monied interests and the crafting of information available to voters is at play.

[@MrMaxEdelstahl]

As seen from my own DK lazy chair, our system isn’t much better. Perhaps it was, but the current gov is an abomination, and the Parliament is falling to pieces.

[@MyBrainGlows]

Look at the US. its the same. More-Party-Systems may have more chaos, but at least you can choose. In germany you can join like 250 different parties and the vote-list got longer and longer every year.

[@MyBrainGlows]

@@MrMaxEdelstahl maybe because voters are way to easy to manipulate in slightly hard times?

[@matejkluska7813]

Britain: Leaves free trade zone Also Britain: complains about not being able to trade freely

[@lloydnaylor6113]

There's a free trade deal I'm case you didn't know.

[@Sjb-on5xt]

Except that "free trade" comes with a hefty price tag in loss of sovereign control, your own courts and institutions bow to EU laws no one voted for and your own fishing grounds are a common resource.

[@bw9927]

The EU became far more than a trading block that it set out. Should have stayed just as a free trade zone…

[@gefaehrlich]

Why lol ​@@bw9927

[@matf6661]

​@bw9927 to compete with China, USA and India you need to

[@borisj]

"I export to the EU but I voted Brexit, and now I complain that everything's harder". OK...... 😳And what did you think exactly was going happen? If you believed anything that came out of a clown suspended on a trapeze over the Thames, I am not sorry for you.

[@Arltratlo]

you forgot, he is a special Brit.... they are so special....but nobody knows exactly what this special is?

[@randomcon123]

Exactly. Have no sympathy for those idiots who voted to leave. Their stupidity has cost the nation for many generations to come. And worst of all, all these problems we are seeing/facing today as a result of brexit are nothing new. They had been mentioned and warned in 2016

[@jakeevara]

Your name is Boris J. Impostor!

[@stevewise1656]

We have the same level of cognitive dissonance here in the US with Trump voters. When I compare the two groups, both are latent or openly racists.

[@tonyatthebeach]

@@stevewise1656 lowest common denominator wins

[@jamesey]

Who knew that a tiny island with limited resources would suffer from leaving a massive trade bloc with massive resources?

[@eddiecalderone]

Of course we’re a tiny island and that’s it….

[@eddiecalderone]

So happy we voted to leave

[@CoralWatches]

yep, a tiny island in the atlantic ocean with such a big ego that it thinks it's still the empire it was a hundred years back.@@eddiecalderone

[@yasserbencheikh2626]

@@eddiecalderone all due respect, the days of the Empire are long gone. So yeah small island off the coast of Mainland Europe.

[@Jacob_Junge]

In fairness, it's a pretty big island. The 9th biggest on the planet. Of course, none of that means Brexit was a smart idea.

[@antaresmaelstrom5365]

It is so hilarious that (virtually) every time someone in this video says something like "What we would like to see now" (in regards to future agreements) it is followed something they HAD as part of the EU.

[@JeffBilkins]

'You don't know what you got till it's gone.'

[@riku9768]

@@JeffBilkinsmost of the people involved are experts in the field of businesses, which overwhelming never wanted or supported Brexit to begin with. Broadly speaking, the leave electorate were relatively elderly and disenfranchised.

[@Donald.Raindrops]

@@riku9768 That's exactly right... and Cameron was a fool... referenda are ok, if the choice is made on facts, not the emotive issues Boris et al conjured.

[@mariusmatei2946]

​@@riku9768you are making a very good point, and that's got to do with the demographics of the United Kingdom: along Italy, Russia, and Germany, the United Kingdom has got one of the largest population of the elderly (within Europe).

[@mariusmatei2946]

​@@Donald.Raindropswell, just to illustrate how badly that referendum had been conceived, it only had two choices/questions in it (without any insight): would you like the United Kingdom to leave the European Union; and/or would you like the United Kingdom to retain its membership in the European Union.

[@felixmatschie6824]

Most of the solutions just sound like basically being an EU member without being one, so why leave in the first place if you want all the things back you lost.

[@setyeva0]

Because ...Cakeism is a thing in the UK, entitlement & a superiority complex will do that every time.

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

Yes, but Empire 2.0. Would you believe that that's what they were calling it in Whitehall ? A modern day 21st century new recreation of the 18th or 19th century British Empire, version 2.0 What planet do they live on ?

[@ChristopherPhillips]

They are out and out anti Brexit. They have no suggestion for a non EU membership future - yet there is one.

[@analyticalmindset]

​@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gwthe planet they feel they've molded because majority of the world knows some English. I can't stand that fact , but it seems to be a possible source of their elitism

[@ChristopherPhillips]

@@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw No I wouldn't believe it because its not true. What planet do you live on to believe this rubbish?

[@CrazyBar50cal]

It baffles me that people in the UK still talk about getting better trade terms with the EU. As far as the EU is concerned the trade deal with the UK is done and there is zero incentive to reopen it anytime in the next decade at least.

[@AggroJordan86]

And I wa surprised that noone called out the people "we want the vat rules of Norway/Switzerland to work for the UK" (paraphrasing) when Norway and Switzerland clearly have a closer association status with the EU. They still seem to think they can get the same treatment without having to give the same amount back. Edit: the 4th gen farmer is a smart cookie. He gets it.

[@lucast2212]

Why does it baffle you that people suffering from the Brexit trade deal talk about it being reopened? If anything, I think Brits should talk about it more. And I think the EU would be willing to talk if London is willing to give up some of its red lines like free movement of people and European Court of Justice jurisdiction.

[@kellyaslan3657]

​@lucast2212 cause it's too late! Ohh they can talk all they want about it! But it won't change anything ... the EU has to set an example to all EU member states with BREXIT. The alternative is a slippery slope indeed.

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

LOL Brexit is the fruit of the UK democracy that is forced by the UK and USA to be used in the world. LOL How come a failure products need to be implemented worldwide?

[@AlfaGiuliaQV]

@@kellyaslan3657 Why? The UK set that example years ago. EU has do do exactly nothing.

[@nanucit]

Brexit was so successful nobody wants to get credit for it 😂

[@chrisj-zk1tg]

The UK doesn't realize they have little to no power anymore. They're a dwindling nation with little future.

[@dandare1001]

That was pretty good. 😆 It's very telling, as well. I really couldn't decide at the time. I saw the bad side of remaining, and the bad side of leaving, but the "facts" blurted out by the media and campaigns (pro and contra) were so confusing as to make most seem untrustworthy. People should be held accountable for lying to the public. This is our future. If we never rejoin the EU, then we need to make a serious plan on how to make it work (which never existed by the look of it). Otherwise, we should rejoin. I'm very sad about how the UK is looking, now and I hope it gets better, but I suspect that even with a good plan, it'll take at least 7-10 years before things start improving. It'll get a lot worse before that.

[@gloin10]

@@dandare1001 "Otherwise, we should rejoin"? Should you really? The arrogance and entitlement in this claim is truly awesome. Back in reality, there is NO such thing as "...rejoin." The UK CANNOT revert to the status quo ante. The UK's unique, ad uniquely privileged, semi-detached, membership, replete with rebates, opt-outs, and all-round special treatment. evaporated into thither the moment the referendum test was announced. EU law has NO legal mechanism whereby an ex-member state can "...rejoin." There is NO pressure from EU members to crate any such mechanism either.... The UK is perfectly entitled to submit its FOURTH membership application any time it feels like it. And it is probable that the European Commission might consider opening the envelope containing that FOURTH membership application in about 35-50 years. Until then, the UK needs to concentrate on meeting the Copenhagen Criteria, which are the rock bottom basic requirements for consideration as an applicant. Currently, th UK does not even meet half of them. A future UK membership will mean accepting a legally binding commitment to joining both the euro(€) and Schengen, as well as a proportional electoral election system. Ultimately, the decision as to ANY future UK membership rests with the EU, and its member states. The UK has NO decision-making power about it. It only takes one member state to veto. Mind you, the question is moot, if only because the UK itself is utterly unlikely to survive another ten years....

[@willw.3366]

Britain leaves EU to gain control, then works to regain the same alignment it had while in EU... If this isn't an example of British pompous pride, then I don't know what is.

[@kennetharvinrodriguez]

Daaaaamn, bruv...

[@klausschroiff4405]

The thing is, the UK has to trade with the EU, but the EU doesn't need to trade with the UK. It seems that this hasn't been understood.

[@jonsimmons4150]

Uk was the second biggest economy in the EU.. yet the eu don't need to trade with the uk!!! Lolza! Crackpipe much..

[@klausschroiff4405]

@@jonsimmons4150 And why was that the case? Financial services ... And now guess why the EU needs financial services from the UK ...

[@alexhubble]

​@@jonsimmons4150you have a very positive outlook on brexit, which is nice to hear. How have the changes affected your business?

[@jonsimmons4150]

@@alexhubble starting a new one up- to get into relatively untouched markets in the commonwealth countries where the new import taxes are reduced to10% I'm optimistic more than I have ever been!

[@alexhubble]

@jonsimmons4150 good man!

[@seanmcmurphy4744]

American here. Don't feel so bad. All you did was leave a free trade zone and destroy your country's economy for the forseeable future. We elected Donald Trump.

[@saba1030]

Apart from, that the EU27 are not a "free trade zone" only, but a = rule based organisation/union of independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens with its SM/EEA included to benefit its 450ish million citizens and its member states. The EUs SM/EEA is there, to make sure, that EVERY EU citizen can live, trade, work, travel as in the own country !! Greetings from the EU27 🖐

[@locacharliewong]

N mostly you guys will re-elect him once again according to the poll.

[@Stoddardian]

Importing millions destroyed the economy.

[@bfyguy]

UK 2016: Hey let's destroy our economy for no reason USA 2016: Hold my beer bruh

[@testman9541]

​@@saba1030Fun fact they exited the EU after a letter from UK's PM based on the referendum, but as a consequence exited also the free trade zone it encompasses understanding that even the Leavers zealots said that their plan was to remain under the same trade agreement... But apparently chanting "Brexit means Brexit" is enough to exit a free trade zone as well as other programs such as Erasmus, Galileo or the research fund 🎉 Fair enough from unellected people I guess ... Viva el 1922 comitee 🥂

[@Mike.Muc.3.1415]

You wanted BREXIT, you got BREXIT. The EU nations remember all the insincerity and tricks the UK tried to pull while leaving. Learn to live with the result of your wishes. There will be no special favors. You wanted out, you are out. The British elites have won, they got rid of the limiting EU framework. The British people have lost on many different levels. The Brexiteers got what they deserve, I am feeling sorry for the remainers.

[@cidercik]

But not any of the EU citizens living in the UK who had their lives turned upside down. Only goes to further prove brexit was solely based on hatred.

[@marcvangastel2157]

Amidst the misery and destruction of her company because of Brexit, madame dinosaur company in the documentary, still has the gall to say that she would CONSIDER voting to remain if she had another chance. Well, just stay where you are, enjoy the misery and we DON'T WANT your highness back. 1

[@RazorMouth]

​@@marcvangastel2157 all they care about is economics.

[@TomTom-vi6vp]

Of course we wanted out and stay out. Can you even name the five presidents of the EU? Who are the EU courts to overrule GB courts?! LOL no one is coming back to the EU.

[@johndevoy5792]

could't agree more

[@belizarius_997]

2016: Europe "This is a bad idea" 2024: UK "That was a bad idea"

[@blechtic]

2016: UK: "We want to cherry-pick." 2024: UK: "We want to cherry-pick."

[@Jj-ff9vq]

Eurozone 24: "we are in the sh1t"

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@Jj-ff9vq Lol. Would be new that we 🇪🇺 are.

[@hypnotechno]

@@EllieD.Violet que?

[@EllieD.Violet]

@@hypnotechno We in the eurozone are not in the poo. I happen to live there.

[@annekathleen4498]

Brit here living in the Netherlands. I love all these discussions about Brexit and ideas oh how things could be better for businesses and what needs to change. The EU have moved on. Brexit is never mentioned. You got what you wanted, live with it.

[@richardevans560]

Enjoy your extra taxes.

[@richardevans560]

"I love all the discussions on Brexit in the Netherlands, which we never discuss" - Priceless. IQ falling fast in the EU

[@annekathleen4498]

@@richardevans560 Discussions in the UK.....

[@annekathleen4498]

@richardevans560 talk about intelligence going down...

[@trident6547]

EU has very clearly stated there will be no new "Swiss agreements" ever. EU does not want hundreds of bilateral agreements, that is what the "Swiss agreement " is all about, that have to be renegotiated all the time. As a matter of fact EU is putting pressure on Switzerland to move towards a more manageable agreement.

[@olezhastanislavich8818]

Exactly!

[@lionelbattegay6042]

We are not quite particularily happy with the British here in Switzerland. The EU was way more easy going before Brexit. However, now we feel they try to prove some point with us.

[@blechtic]

@@lionelbattegay6042 That's largely a false impression. The EU was getting sick of the mess of agreements even before brexit.

[@sinisatrlin840]

There is also one important thing about Switzerland. Swiss invest in EU more than any other country. Bulk of Swiss manufacture and market is in EU, and it is not strange to buy Swiss product in CH store that is made in EU, and vice versa. Swiss based conglomerates are big employers in manufacture, shipping, finance and other through EU. Britain can not compete with CH in any way beacouse British companies where historically only interested in easy money and tax heavens.

[@simondymond8479]

That is true. The UK public do not want such an agreement in reality. But I cannot ever see Switzerland moving closer to being an EU member. Indeed, the recent direction of travel seems to be quite the opposite. The EU is not the economic power that it was ten years ago and EU policies have had very poor outcomes in Europe.

[@trident6547]

Peter Foster is suggesting that UK should cherry pick a lot of benefits that EU members have. His suggestions about doing a "youth mobility deal" or a "professional mobility arrangement" are basically what one of the four freedoms of the single market is all about. Freedom of movement. I do not think there will be any will from the EU side to do that because when the Brexit negotiations started the EU council specifically instructed Michel Barnier, the chief negotiator of EU, that UK cannot have any benefits of the Brexit agreement that EU members have.

[@jal051]

Which is common sense

[@handleless85]

The amount of political friction caused by Brexit to the EU means that it is very unlikely the EU will want to renegotiate anything. It is not even clear if they would accept the UK back in the EU if miraculously there was the political will in the UK to do so.

[@Tommaso251287]

They still are in denial.

[@lellyparker]

@@Tommaso251287 Its the FT. They don't want to admit that it is Brexit that is causing all these problems.

[@bzuidgeest]

He is basically saying he wants back in without outright saying it. There was talk of accepting the swiss or Norway model without explicitly mentioning them. All because of some party making that anathema.

[@howieisbored]

The rest of the world see this exactly as it is: PURE HUBRIS.

[@ChristopherPhillips]

This video? I agree. impact of Brexit on the UK's economy has been largely benign, indeed it has grown faster than many of its peers post 2016.

[@AlexGys9]

Indeed. A jingoistic folly of a country in decline with an overinflated sense of self.

[@mathelga]

Largely benign.....you must live as a hermit when it comes to trade and economics!😂

@@ChristopherPhillips You ridiculous traitor.

[@ChristopherPhillips]

@@mathelga Oh really - explain why the UK's GDP cumulatively is near the top of EU nations for growth post 2016. And honestly you lot in the comments fail to use any facts - why? (I know why).

[@bigfatbaataed]

Canadian here I think Brexit is the best example of a country shooting itself in the foot there is, why would anyone deliberately put barriers up with their largest trading partner, especially if you are the junior partner...

[@ripvanwincle2258]

The UK has surpassed France and Germany in terms of GDP growth since 2019.This is far left channel who won't accept a democratic vote.

[@sirianofmorley]

You should probably worry about the tyranny at home.

[@henkmagnetic3103]

In the feet, both.

[@mirfjc]

@@sirianofmorley dumb reply. original point was valid regardless of anything else.

[@sirianofmorley]

@@mirfjc why label your reply as dumb? It's just an opinion like the rest of KZbin's comments. Have a good day.

[@roberttaylor7423]

A friend (not in the UK) once asked me how Brexit had changed my life. I told him that it had brought me the realisation that every second person I passed on the street was likely an idiot.

[@kensaiix]

every third, according to the vote results. (not disagreeing in general, just pointing out details)

[@ChrisWalker-fq7kf]

Me too. Of course voters have been electing Tory governments for ages so I didn't have any illusions about the British public. But elections are complicated involving many issues and people vote for different reasons. Whereas Brexit was so simple and stark. In the entire referendum campaign, not a single good reason was advanced for Brexit. Not one. Only a complete idiot would have voted for it, so that must be what half the people are. It was like uncovering the fact that half of the people you meet are secretly lizard people or something. It was shocking and it still is. How can we put any faith in democracy anymore?

[@hakanozaslan9571]

@@kensaiix that very much depends on the region he lives in and how they voted over there (if you are going to be pedantic about it, lets just go a bit further then.)

[@99672]

The 50% who voted to leave, probably think your an idiot wanting to stay in the EU. If you ain't happy, you are free to leave the UK.

[@FoobsTon]

That's how precisely you and those like you, lost the argument.

[@bobavontanelorn5713]

27 Minutes about UK - EU Relationship and no european voice was heard. All topics were about „we“ and „us“ from a British perspective. A major topic was ignored: What has the UK to offer for the EU to get a better deal than before - EU is doing fine so far. And after so much insulting against Europe, there will be no acceptance, if EU would allow UK to cherry pick. So, for me it is just: talk about rejoin or forget it! You told the EU clearly what you wanted and what you think about them. We have heard and we keep this in mind.

[@renebosselaar2198]

Moreover, only from an economical standpoint. They just seem to forget (or don't know/acknowledge the EU is fundamentally about avoiding war by creating common rules that would create prosperity for all members. Economic/trade rules only being a part of the picture. If only based on trade, how on earth would the EU subsidize poor parts of member states as it massively did in the UK? Blind to the facts? Igorance?

[@autohmae]

The UK politicians have shown to be unreliable partners for negotiating deals. So pretty certain the stance of the EU will just be: you want to make agreements ? Then you should have remained in the EU, because we already made them, the UK was part of the decision process and had a lot of influence (for example UK complains they don't have a deal with Japan like the EU which is important for the UK car manufacturers - but remember the UK was the one that proposed for the EU to make a deal with Japan in the first place !). The EU probably will have a state of: we think it's easier for the EU if the UK just aligns with EU rules. Deal with it.

[@USUG0]

as a EU citizen, I don't mind the UK rejoining the EU, but: - it must adopt the Euro right away - it must put a €1T bond down, because ... - it must start driving on the right side of the road! :-P

[@colinsmith1288]

What this is about is a new government in waiting and it"s relationship with the eu in time to come.Both the eu and Uk need each other for trade. It is all about harmony.

[@EllieD.Violet]

​@@USUG0..... and each Briton who enters one of the other members country must wear donkey ears 24/7* until he leaves the country again, for 5 decades after being readmitted. *well, maybe not when taking a shower 😂

[@indricotherium4802]

This programme is an honest enough confession that the UK has no trace of an interest in the spirit of the EU, only seeks now a more self-serving transactional relationship with it. Echoes of the default historic British attitude to internationalism?

[@fedethefico]

100% on point.

[@jal051]

They always saw the EU as a market to profit from. Nothing else.

[@stefan4159]

​@@jal051 Sorry, but the single market is definitely the biggest reason to support the EU, whether you like it or not. That's why all the Central and Eastern European countries joined in 2004-07 in the first place.

[@Purple_flower09]

​@@jal051 this isn't true for every single person in the UK. The majority, yes. But not all of us. Please bear this in mind.

[@indricotherium4802]

@@jal051 : for the most part, the British only feel comfort and equanimity in their relationships with anglophone countries. They harbour a deep-veined anti-European sentiment that means these relationships can never rise above being tolerable. Hence the sense they are under British control must be kept clearly in mind and attitude.

[@gergister]

Maybe because I'm eastern European, but I am utterly baffled how people are unable to state direct facts and just beat around the bush.

[@HKim0072]

People hate to admit they were wrong.

[@emjay9688]

It's a British thing, people here seem for the most part to be physically incapable of being direct and blunt - you're supposed to be wooly and drop hints rather than tell what you think, or you're considered rude. Bleeds into public discourse as well. Cultural thing, takes getting used to.

[@AlphaDogLXIII]

It's a brittish thing, especially in job interviews.

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

Spanish here. I feel the same way. I remember one teacher that kept telling us that for job interviews and dealing with our bosses we should "act more like the anglo-saxons", I think now I get what he meant. But this is contrary to my very nature this just ain't alright.

[@sophie-annew7743]

It's essentially a backwards class society. 'A cultural thing of not being direct' may as well be translated as 1. don't criticise the upper class. 2. upper class don't explain what they do (to exploit the rest of the society). 3. don't like facts or debates that are based on facts so that upper class can rule the society without being questioned.

[@adolin1338]

Embarrassment. What an utter embarrassment to come from this country. This is what hubris, a failed education system, private media conglomerates and 15 years of governance by incompetents will do. A country in ruins, sliding faster and faster towards the abyss. No chance halting the decline, we've already stripped the country for parts and sold the last of it off. The Brexit-eers told us we wouldn't need brakes - We can just believe

[@testman9541]

You've forgot : bipartism, unellected people ruling, cowardship, no written constitution... 😢

[@woodencreatures]

Couldn't agree more

[@PeidosFTW]

UK politicians just love to implement austerity in any way possible, it's like an addiction

[@ludicrousreality0]

@@PeidosFTW it's all planned..

[@ChristopherPhillips]

Wait till you hear about Germany 😂

[@JonathanXLindqviust]

As someone fiercely pro-EU, I'm genuinely glad brexit happened. It proved that even a former power has no chance to stand alone in this world. It shut up every far-right anti-EU rhetoric. I just feel bad for the UK's youth who will suffer for their elders hubris and pride.

[@hamzapetridis206]

Don’t be too much for the millennials there they massively snubbed the referendum. They’ll have to explain their younger siblings and kids why they can’t go on Erasmus or move to Spain as easily as before.

[@kb4903]

No one else wanting to leave like the uk might be the best thing for Europe since 1945

[@kb4903]

@@hamzapetridis206yeah it’s the younger people fault. Really?!

[@cazman182]

Unfortunately it didn't shut them up. When you're not costrained by honesty or truth you can divert blame, finger point, gaslight and pile on more false promises all day and night.

[@yolo2709]

Australia and Japan are doing just fine and I'm pretty sure New Zealand is doing better than most EU countries. I never got these "an old power can't stand alone" and so on. Pro-EU people use the same empty arguments as Brexiters did, just the other way around.

[@DavidC-fk2wg]

Still makes me angry that I shared an island with 17.4 people incapable of getting the simplest multiple choice question in history correct.

[@ChristopherPhillips]

a 7 year whine 😂

[@theadventuresofred19]

Such arrogance. Be angry

[@namenlos40]

Must be a very small island.

[@Billhook3391]

​@@ChristopherPhillips - Brexit people moaned about the EU for decades, get over yourself.

[@greghiggs5375]

@@ChristopherPhillips There a lot to whine about.

[@williams7273]

I own a small, specialst business in the UK serving the aviation sector. It is now completely impossible to do business in the EU, as - amongst other "non-tariff barriers" - the mechanisms for getting temporary work visas is virtually insurmountable. We have EU counterparts who would love to subcontract work to us, but we cannot conduct "any economic activity" there in person (which is the only way to deliver our services). Speaking as someone who was conned into voting to Leave, I can only apologise to others in the same situation for my naivety. I'm so, so sorry... 😥🔫

[@dimiathan]

How could you not see this coming? If all the agreements fall out of place with Brexit, how would it make it easier for you to work with other companies in the EU? Even if a deal comes into place, it will take at least a decade until it is running.

[@williams7273]

@@dimiathan In 2016, I didn't own the business, and was focused on different problems. And yes, I fell for the lies, for which I'm eternally regretful.

[@jonsimmons4150]

calling out blox. i worked at a subsidiary of magellan aerospace, in uk supplying parts for airbus. some parts were made in india. much airbus parts are made in the UK.

[@antonio3220]

How can you possibly have a business that relies heavily on trade with the EU and not see this coming? Some voters really are like cockroaches.

[@williams7273]

@@antonio3220 Perhaps if you'd taken the time to read the response to a previous identical question, you'd have seen that in 2016 I didn't own the business, and was focused on different problems. Some commentators on here really are like cockroaches...

[@seany8787]

I used to host factory tours around a major UK based car OEM. I hosted a group of retirees once and got the question “so what benefits have you (our factory) seen since Brexit” - They were utterly astounded when I said zero. Which left me astounded that they could be so tone deaf as I had explained that at our peak (pre brexit) we’d been making 900 cars per day and were, post Brexit making around 250. We couldn’t produce as many cars, we couldn’t get as many parts, what parts we did get were late. A big factor of this was because most of our parts were sourced from the EU. “But why arent we (the UK) making the parts?” They cried “Our politicians sold off all the family silver years ago” They were quiet for a while after that. I think it took a while for them to mull it over.

[@kb4903]

Bet they blamed the migrants and remainers for it!!

[@phill6859]

The UK aren't making the parts because, old people wanted cheaper and better quality products.

[@cristosl]

They probably all voted for Brexit

[@cristosl]

@@phill6859 The car industry adopted diversified supply chains because they could manufacture cars cheaper that way. They could have insisted for "patriotic reasons" that all aspects of car manufacturing remain in house and died a slow death I suppose

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

They didn't "sell the family silver". Diversified supply chains are actually a really good idea. Breaking those chains is what's really stupid.

[@hoegild1]

Britains need to understand, that when they left EU, they stopped being a partner, and became a competitor to EU.

[@Nmh2el]

A competitor who should be put in place with all their demands. The demands and expectations will rapidly go down if the EU forces them into a poverty state.

[@jonallen-dt2ui]

@@Nmh2el You do know we Import more than we export? Meaning the EU will lose billions a year. The EU is weak and will collapse within 10 years when the German gravy train runs out of money.

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

@@jonallen-dt2ui I'm a Brit who has lived and worked in Europe in my own business for the last 35 years, and, let me tell you, we are doing fine. You should try living abroad-you'll be surprised at how well we live, all things considered.

[@lenkacoyne420]

OMG! Uk right wingers talking about EU collapse since the beginning of EU. Dream on,buddy. Some more unicorns?

[@shilohbrutalis582]

You know...that part didn't occur to me

[@tomfurstyfield]

Weird how a lot of rich people in the UK pushed for Brexit when the EU started talking about closing tax havens 🤔

[@dandare1001]

It's not as if there aren't enough tax dodgers in the EU. But I get your point. We make a lot of money (I say we, but I mean a very small portion of our population) from tax dodging and laundering dirty money. Plenty of that money comes from the EU as well. I can imagine that the rich in the EU were also for Brexit, come to think of it,

[@HieronymousCheese]

@@dandare1001 Britain is, by some distance, the dirty money capital of the world. The City of London exists to facilitate the hiding of vast (often ill-gotten) fortunes in "Offshore Trusts" - and they have their own representative, who sits close to the Speaker in Parliament, to make sure the interests of The City are not interfered with.

[@ashleighnoel9857]

The true reason of bretix

[@Croz89]

Doesn't matter, the BOT are not part of the UK so were never in the EU in the first place.

[@dandare1001]

@@Croz89 What is the BOT? Ah British Overseas territories, I assume? The laundering goes on in the UK, not just the BOT

[@theendofmytether]

As a Brit living in the EU, I can guarantee you that this is not a debate at all in the EU. Britain has left the EU and that is it. We will continue to develop as a trading block. Whatever Britain decides to do is up to them but frankly of minor interest to the EU. Best of luck but it does not look like it is going well.

[@henkmagnetic3103]

Your comment reminds me that not everyone from the UK is mug.

[@mirfjc]

@@henkmagnetic3103 Even in 2016 it was only barely 50%. Much of those have now woken up.

[@neilsalway5531]

Or have fallen asleep... permanently ​@@mirfjc

[@DoubleTap-PopPop]

Dear God! We bit of our nose to spite our face and shot ourselves in the foot at the same time ... ! Go Brittania ☹️

[@Joe-fn9mi]

The only time I hear it is when im doing complicated VISA stuff each year, and its always the same topics from the local lawyers/accountants... "urgh, why did Britain do that"

[@49mohT]

The naievety to think the UK is similarly entitled to deals alike Switzerland and Norway is incredible. Switzerland has a unique location and Norway has Unique resources. The UK has hardly anything to offer to the EU, especially since and because they stepped out.

[@marleneMS]

But they are special 😮

[@49mohT]

@@marleneMS not in terms of export, agriculture, unique knowledge or particular industrial speciality. They are average on all fields. The only thing making them interesting was language, tax benefits and weak employee-protection laws, but Ireland has all of the above and are still EU. Mwamp mwamp.

[@agatakawa3586]

They can offer their English Exceptionalism and their bullshitting.

[@DanielNiklaus]

@Sir_TypesalotI’m Swiss-German too. Never felt blackmailed. I’m all for our middle way, and the majority has voted with me several times.

[@49mohT]

@Sir_Typesalot I have had the privelege of living in your Alpine state for three years and the first thing I did when I became a parent in Switzerland is to migrate back to my European socialist welfare state. It is abundantly clear that the Swiss insist on doing everything their own way, which is shown by the fact that the country is extremely divided and self-righteous. The only thing keeping the nation together is the shared sentiment that the problem is always outside of themselves. Switzerland's economy is on a slippery slope, with the CHF's value dropping below the EURO comparing to the USD. It's becoming more and more profitable for any swiss family to do their weekly groceries in Germany, France, Austria or Italy. I know I have. You can be proud, you can be arrogant, you can be pedantic and authoritarian. But sooner or later, the swiss will need to learn to be humble.

[@johnbill739]

I see the Brits are still negotiating with themselves. What you guys find acceptable may not be acceptable to the EU. Can’t believe we still having the same conversation.

[@Boghopper9999]

It was never really about the EU (most people don't even know how the EU works); it was pure grievance politics, create an 'other' and blame them for all your problems, promising a land of milk and honey when they are vanquished. We got Brexit, the US got Trump, 2 cheeks of the same arse

[@Iazzaboyce]

You are listening to 10% of Brits who don't have what they want and are powerless to get it - don't flatter yourself the EU has the power to say no to nothing...

[@alexander9703]

This is such a lazy refrain. Of course we have to negotiate with ourselves before we negotiate with the third party. What; do you think the EU only decides what it wants out of a negotiation on the day it turns up for the negotiation? The problem was we didn't know what we wanted last time. And when we finally decided, we ended up with red lines which were incompatible with one another.

[@jal051]

@@alexander9703 They keep talking about the Swiss trade deal as if the Swiss trade deal didn't include freedom of movement. The Swiss deal was offered to Johnston and he rejected it.

[@barbthegreat586]

Brexit is done, haven't you heard? Time to negotiate among ourselves is over.​@@alexander9703

[@frankowot4]

The main benefit of Brexit is that the EU has a reliable location to which it can send its out-of-date food.

[@klausschumacher7126]

I didn't look at this but you're correct. All food that can't fulfill the EU standard can be sent to the UK on a Truck within 24 hours.... In the future the UK can also be used as a dumping ground of nuclear waste or other stuff because when you pay well they will take the money... Look at the wastewater they are dumping in the rivers and sea.

[@woodencreatures]

lol

[@thorstenguenther]

I also see a major market for hazardous electric appliances or counterfeit drugs in Pyongyang on Thames.

[@KGI_KlikoNL]

@@klausschumacher7126 Can also be put on a boat to the USA as the standards are even lower there.

[@neodym5809]

@@KGI_KlikoNLnot about standards, but lack of border checks. USA is checking its imports. UK is not. So you can even send stuff to the Uk which is below standard. Nobody will notice.

[@torbit2736]

All I hear in this video are brits trying to get the most concessions out of the EU bloc, with nothing in return. Mutual recognition agreements, reciprocal deals, etc... The EU are the bigger partner, not the UK. Baffling to me that they think they have a member to swing!

[@MB-co6qj]

It's actually funny to think all along this video: hahaha f you!

[@antonio3220]

And that's why they had to go. The UK was a liability to the EU. Now we just need to get rid of Hungary.

[@antoniomaccora593]

Brexit has nothing to do with it.. ...the hyper-liberal economic policy that began in the 1980s with Thatcher comes into play. The crisis is also in the European Union, including Germany. Reason? Destruction of the real economy in favor of financialization of the economy (itself now in crisis due to the failure of globalization) and austerity policy dictated by Germany to weaken its European partners and encourage its own enrichment.

[@jonathanbowen3640]

@@antonio3220 Don't be silly, the UK was hardly a liability. It was the second largest net contributor and actually along with Germany actually wrote most of the laws. You wont be getting rid of anybody. Particularly not Hungary.

[@BabbaCurtix]

​@@jonathanbowen3640UK were the princess of EU. UK had it better than many EU members but wanted more. Maybe Britain's realize that leaving EU was a mistake and the best for England would be to join EU again without that princess status

[@MikeZadik]

Let's leave the EU but then make Contracts with the EU that still force us to do everything in the way the EU decides, but now we have nothing to say about it. Great work ;-)

[@janickpauwels3792]

This was entirely predicted. Even without any deal, it was clear that British producers/manufacturers would still follow all EU rules, because they need the CE mark if they want to export.

[@NederlandsTransatlanticus]

Let's leave the EU to escape the looming threat of an ever closer Union and EU army to then root hardest for like the most pro-EU nation out there, Ukraine. This support for Ukraine while the American colleagues of the Brexiteers (MAGA) are betraying Europe also helps to form an EU army. Both good things while this probably wasn't the intention with Brexit.

[@edonveil9887]

But the UK is now free to create their own rules on top of that. Why don't the Brits create an aggregating company of commerce in, say, NL - because taxes. This company would take care of the red tape and facilitate smaller businesses' sales.

[@DavidHeffron78]

"We have a trade deal with Australia". "And were you able to trade with Australia before?" "Um... yes".

[@HVBRSoF]

that model maker talking about how the trade deal was basically useless because they were losing money sending the damn thing over was so funny. and then the farmer came in voicing out his worries for how the trade deal would undercut their business as imports from NZ and Australia come into the UK. Brexiters only wanted to leave because of immigration issues. Imagine being so stupid as to not think of the other consequences. that's single-issue voters for you. And their main goal, to stop uncontrolled immigration, didn't even work. looool.

[@johnwilson5637]

No - the EU put blocks on trading with any other country if the same good could be bought from an EU country. Shows how little remoaners understood about the EU and who really runs it.

[@jonsimmons4150]

yes.. with a massive tarif that penalised uk natural trading partners as part of the commonwealth. in 1972, uk exported 87% of cars to australia. that all dissapeared in the E.C and instead the uk had to import european cars.

[@richardevans560]

Oh dear, someone doesn't understand trade deals lol

[@tommarriott1223]

@@jonsimmons4150yes, but we could have proposed a trade deal with Australia before we left the EU if our trading terms were so bad and was causing such damage to our economy. Why didn’t we… because compared with EU trade it didn’t matter one iota.

[@Lando-kx6so]

Start by getting rid of the incompetent conservatives

[@ConsumerWatchdogUK]

As politicians their job is to convince you they are necessary, while stealing your money and making sure you don't fight back. I'd argue they are pretty competent.

[@benghiskahn3673]

The whole British political system needs a complete overhaul. Its rotten to the core. It's an archaic relic that isn't fit for purpose in the modern era. If the political system cannot modernise then neither can the country as a whole.

[@adhiwicaksono6149]

and what, voting in incompetent labourites? Be real for two second here. The Labour shadow health ministry already talking about selling NHS. The Labour leader has told us he'll continue austerity. Nothing will change!

[@martijnb5887]

@@adhiwicaksono6149 Which is the point of the comment from @benghiskahn3673 above yours.

[@brachiator1]

​@@adhiwicaksono6149So, you are happy to be governed by incompetent Tories, who are selling off the NHS and love austerity?

[@pierrekilgoretrout3143]

27:23 "We don't want to discuss the biggest issues facing the country in the year of an election. That's pretty disturbing if you want to believe in democracy."

[@HH-hd7nd]

The "Swiss Model" is not going to happen and it will never happen again. It is a nightmare of more than a hundred individual treaties and the EU has ruled that out categorically. The "Norway Model" will not happen either because that means joining EFTA and the EEA - and that will not happen because Norway has publicy stated that they will veto the UK joining. Not to mention that the Brexiteers will never accept that either because it means following EU rules with no voice at the table. Norwegian politicians have said for years that this model works for Norway because it suits Norway's needs but it wouldn't work for the UK at all. As for all the commentators in the video - stop gaslighting the UK population. Start informing them about reality. It is NOT up to the UK to cherrypick anything like you keep on suggesting. It's the EU that makes the rules and the UK can either follow the rules and have easy trade or they diverge and have barriers, it's as simple as that. If you want to export you always have to follow the rules of the market you want to export to - your own rules are irrelevant for export.

[@FreQ135]

Agreed on this. Best course of action now is to align as close as possible with the EU and follow their rules. We don't have a say any longer. The alternative is deregulation/low taxes, which will be great for the wealthy and powerful, but not so great for the average citizen.

[@ecaeas4439]

Where on earth are they gaslighting the population in this video? Where in this video was the Norway model or Swiss model posited as workable solutions to aspirations to get back into the EU in some form? Give me a timestamp. "Within the bounds of remaining outside the single market and remaining outside the customs Union, there's only so far changes can go. Frankly, it amounts to fiddling with the fringes of the agreement that we currently have. "One of the major frustrations within the EU is this idea of Britain cherrypicking all of the benefits of the EU". Did we watch the same video?

[@thegreypenguin5097]

@@FreQ135 best course of action is to rejoin the European Union on the same terms as everyone else

[@HH-hd7nd]

@@ecaeas4439 That's what some people said, but you obviously didn't listen to the others.

[@ecaeas4439]

@@HH-hd7nd No it wasn't. I've watched this entire video. You're responding to an argument that wasn't made, and only because of how common it pops up in circles that discuss rejoining the EU, you were vindicated by people agreeing simply on the basis that this is what they would expect would be said by someone from the Uk, because apparently we're all exceptionalists and entitled. Give me a timestamp in the video for someone saying this exactly, please.

[@Aryakanta]

The more I listen, the more I hear these people describe programs, laws, rules, and programs WE HAD BEFORE WE F’N LEFT.

[@brianferguson7840]

Scottish born French citizen here. Brexit stopped being a "thing" here about two years ago. We've got over it and there is no will or wish to have you back. The chance of all 27 member states to have you back is "zero". Rejoining is not your choice and never can be. The fact that the UK has more than doubled your National Debt makes you too big a drain on the ration strength. Enjoy your sovereignty.

[@philipkoene5345]

I, a German here, would have them back. But only with some clear sign of committment. So no rebates and a plan to ditch the Pound for the Euro. And the british populace should vote for this in a referendum.

[@fedethefico]

Same from Italy. UK will not be welcomed back. At best, Scotland will.

[@AnotherGreatOpinion]

@@philipkoene5345 can we get them to drive on the right side too while we're at it?

[@jschreiber6461]

@@philipkoene5345I would agree… but dropping the £, would be a difficult ask even in a vote, just like the NOK & CHF. Perhaps the added nuke umbrella as part of the deal might produce a win win, not perfect, but both sides get something. By vote for sure, and the last time, as the original showed it is easy to sway any country’s population, particularly if most have had no education on how the eu works, but rely on right wing tabloids that push out simple slogans. Four legs good… Two legs bad… baaaaa baaaaa! Get Brexit done…..baaaa baaa sheep! Destroying Erasmus and similar benefits as a result of Brexit wrecked a whole generation.

[@HadrianTAZ]

I do believe they should 100% be allowed to rejoin, but only through a referendum, so that it is a legitimate thing, voted by the populace. The UK is a European nation, a civilized one that fundamentally adheres to the same principles and qualities as most European states. I have worked there for 6 years, it is by far the best country to work in, to drive also, I get it why they drive on the left side of the road, it is in my opinion better and safer somehow and there are some numbers behind this as well, but hey ho. And the pound is very good, as the Euro will destroy Europe most likely as it has done with Italy, Spain already. The strength of Europe comes from co-operation despite the differences and cherishing the individuality of every state, as they have evolved through the ages. The strength of Europe does not come from the EURO or from driving on the right lane of the roads. Although I would kindly ask Britain to remove the Imperial Metric System which is not only irelevant but antiquated and hard to use compared with the metric. I know when I was there last year there was a big fuss about re introducing units such as "pints" and all sorts of things from the past.

[@DLT-po6to]

I own a wholesale trading company in germany. My company employs 28 people, so it is one of countless similar mid sized companies in germany. Companies like mine are often very specialised on a single area or line of products and are the backbone of our economy. We import goods and sell them here in our region. I used to import goods from britain in the range of about 2-3 million Euros every year. But after brexit I stopped importing from the UK entirely. The prices are not competitive enough anymore and I don't want to deal with all the customs and paperwork. I do my business in Denmark or the Netherlands now. And as I said, my company is just one of many thousands in germany alone. So I imagine that brexit devastated our british colleagues. As far as I know some of my old trading partners in britain closed their businesses shortly after brexit. From my perspective this is just sad and pointless. I really don't understand how anyone could believe leaving the continental market to be a good idea. I mean I don't agree with a lot of stuff that's going on in the EU. But european trading is so deeply integrated in our economy by now, that we couldn't survive without it anymore. Any german politican proposing to leave the EU is a certified lunatic.

[@richardevans560]

How is the German economy doing again? Recession (-0.3%) in 2023 and no growth this year. In the UK we had growth last year and 0.6% growth this year. Want to see devastated? Take a look outside your window

[@DLT-po6to]

@@richardevans560 Seems like I hit a nerve. This is not a competition. Other countries having issues doesn't make your own problems any less bad. You need more than one single number to get the whole picture. Judging by your comment I don't assume that you understand that. Probably one of those who choose active ignorance over admitting that brerxit was a failure. There are problems and there always will be. In every nation. But in general people are doing all right in germany. Not much different to 10 years ago. Popular media exaggerates like it always does. Controversial news and stirring up fear sells better.

[@richardevans560]

@@DLT-po6to "other countries having a problem doesn't make your growing economy less problematic" - Priceless. Chained to a corpse and still claiming it means you will never be alone in your problems

[@annekathleen4498]

​@@richardevans560you sound very angry.....says a lot

[@annekathleen4498]

Well said

[@JustSomeTommy]

Many of the people interviewed here seem to think that we in the EU are willing to let you have your cake and eat it too. Brexit didn't affect us in the same way, and I don't believe that allowing you to have the same type of deal as Norway is on the agenda.

[@HappyCatholicDane]

The UK can certainly have a Norway deal if they want one. Paying to the EU and following the rules, but having no representation in Brussels 😄.

[@fedethefico]

Norway is the first to oppose UK getting anywhere near EFTA/EEA.

[@JustSomeTommy]

@@HappyCatholicDane I think the problem with allowing the UK to have a deal like Norway's is more that, in that case, we signal to other nations considering leaving that they can do so without any real consequences.

[@HappyCatholicDane]

@@JustSomeTommy A Norway deal isn’t really optimal. It is being an EU member, without having any say on how the EU is run. Norway and Iceland accepts this arrangement, because they get the right to protect a few national industries (fishing and agriculture) while getting access to the single market. But frankly, it is a bad deal for them. I don’t see it being something other countries would like to emulate. For the UK it would mean that they were going from being a major rule maker inside the EU pre 2016, to basically becoming a rule taker without representation. Which would be a major humiliation for the UK ego. Which is why they won’t ask for a Norway deal.

[@antonnurwald5700]

I would be super happy to welcome the UK back in the customs union and the single market. Once they got their sh*t together. People talking about "the opportunities of brexit" demonstrates they haven't.

[@narsil1984]

As a European, I shop online quite a bit. I used to find british products and buy them, no questions asked. Now? Costs import tax so... no british buying anymore. The nation that used to be all about free trade has ruined our trade in Europe, hurt all our economies and themselves more than anyone. Good job.

[@svenvandevelde1]

Completely agree

[@GorgeDawes]

Same here. I’m an EU-based Brit and used to order most of my clothes and books from online retailers in the UK. No point now, stuff takes weeks to arrive and the extra costs are huge.

[@MondeoScotch]

Now whenever I shop on eBay I always set search filter to exclude the UK. Before brexit most of the stuff I was getting from the UK. Now most purchases I'm making are from the Germany.

[@zwidowca1]

@@GorgeDawesSome time ago I ordered a fencing sword from UK. It spent over a month in parcelforce hell and then roughly a week in border control/inspection. The cost of the product itself was 80 quid (due to some minor factory defects it was on sale). When it finally arrived I thought I would pay didly squat for import fees, as according to Iocal tariff informator (ISZTAR) a blunt sword would cost me extra 0% as far as tarrifs go. Sadly what I avoided in tarriffs I paid in the tarriff agency fees for some God forsaken reason. For a lump of steel priced at 80 quid I paid 20 quid fee... just so the tariff agency could declare it to be essentially 0% import tarriff. There is currently no reason, like none at all, for anybody EU based to buy stuff from UK as a private individual. The additional costs are absurd. You are exactly correct.

[@Avengerie]

Waaah, you ruined our little bureaucratic paradise. How dare you!

[@Sphere723]

This is what happens when free marketers fail to recognize that the EU single market is the greatest free market accomplishment since the Roman Empire.

[@PKandME]

True that, but haters don't want to hear facts

[@marcfleuren7691]

Free market is only good when it lets them have an unfair advantage sorry (/s) otherwise its not free market its communism

[@personalemail9329]

*since ancient China.

[@skybum.com.au1]

Seriously, try dealing with the EU from our neck of the woods. The EU is a protectionist mafia!

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

The British Empire in the second half of the 19th century was a far greater accomplishment.

[@oliviaduran-b8q]

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[@AlonBayani]

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[@fabiankilimani]

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[@joepeterson-s6t]

She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

[@sebastianmarin4833]

Brexit got Britain done

[@AndriyValdensius-wi8gw]

Well and truly. 😁😄

[@banksiasong]

Like a dog's dinner.😊

[@ocher8931]

😂 damn. So true.

[@drastberry1454]

Like a kipper 😅

[@moos5221]

this made me laugh, well done. i love british humor.

[@knusperkeks2748]

UK got exactly what they wanted. I don't care about excuses from people with no understanding of the concept of accountability. If they genuinely cared, there were ways to inform themselves without falling victim to politician's lies. The people who warned the UK weren't irrelevant. One of them was the former prime minister. John Major warned the UK very precisely, on what would happen if they were foolish enough to break away from the EU, and his predictions came true. Trust me when I say this, with firsthand experience, nobody in the EU cares about the UK anymore. They haven't cared for a long time by now.

[@uweinhamburg]

Out means out!

[@odnilniloc]

Very well said.

[@NonFlyiingDutchman]

So your attitude to people who have been conned is to gaslight them? And I live in the EU, the people I mix with would like to see the UK return

[@croneryveit9070]

@@NonFlyiingDutchman How is it gaslighting if everything he said is bloody true?

[@simonnewman4240]

Trust me when I say this, no one in the UK cares about you either. They never have cared

[@Eyyoh755]

Meanwhile in Germany: "I still don't get it! They shut themselves OUT of the market and now they complain about the fact that they can't sell their products properly IN the market?...must be some sort of english homour, I guess!"😂😂😂

[@annoyboyPictures]

The EU Market is the Fastest Shrinking Market in the World... and that's before the Ukrainian War. All the unrest in Europe with all the Nationalist political Parties and the EU continues to Over-regulate... and keep all the borders open for uncontrolled migration... what could possibly go wrong with that trajectory? LOL!

[@richardevans560]

No we don't complain. A few multinationals are complaining because they like shifting profit from one region to another. The rest of us couldn't care less, there is NO difference to being in the EU or out of it for 99.99% of the public.

[@Eyyoh755]

@@richardevans560 "...wait a minute!", said the english fisherman.

[@noelhanna6432]

Our roads are still full of German cars. Trade is still going on. You don't need political union to trade.

[@ruarispooner5802]

here’s an idea, why don’t we join this great group of 27 european countries who all work together to prevent any of the problems that we face in our country. they have freedom of movement, work, trade. it’s a pretty good deal. it’s called the european union. i think we should check it out.

[@rafaelmartinvannostrand2084]

I can not begin to understand how frustrating must be for people who voted remain have to go through this

[@nextinstitute7824]

We do. And for those who have children who would have liked an Erasmus experience, and for those who want to live, work or retire in one of your neighbouring countries. But the thing is... You guys knew all that. It's not rocket science.

[@dh1380]

It sucks for sure 😅

[@themills23]

It's utterly horrific. But I suspect you know that 😊

[@TomTom-vi6vp]

I wouldn’t worry. Most are loud mouth lefties. You don’t need to ask what way they support, they’ll tell ya 😂 (and Chuck milkshakes over you if you’re not in agreement)

[@onikamaraj1239]

Leave means leave the have to deal with that because the vote was democratic

[@TheLastCrusader22]

The UK seems to think the EU is in the same mindset as them, just sort of waiting impatiently to make a deal to improve all these areas where the UK is now worse off. It does not understand that the EU has moved on, EU countries stopped being interested in Brexit years ago and its relevancy is now limited to the UK, perhaps Ireland a bit. There were some areas that the EU were kinda sad to see worsened by the UK leaving, but that's been dealt with with minute damage at best and now we've moved on. It doesn't linger in the way it does in the UK and therefore, of course, the EU is not interested in all these deals that UK officials and FT and others talk about, because there's no obvious benefit to them. "We could make a deal like the Swiss, we could make a deal...we could make a deal...". Except you're not going to because "making deals" is a bilateral thing and the EU is not particularly interested. That farmer talks about "it has to be a give and take", well the EU still largely sees it (correctly) as in 2016, that the UK just wants to "take" and not really "give". You wanted out, now you're out. Stop trying to still have in front of you the cake you've already eaten. "Let's get Brexit done". And you did, you left. That's what Brexit was about. It was never about "we'll leave and have all the upsides, none of the fees or obligations or 'downsides' ". Oh and btw, as evidenced by countries like Hungary and Poland not having taken in enough refugees to staff a Middle Eastern restaurant, you always had the ability to "control your borders" even while in the EU. Nothing has changed with you being out on that front. The fact that you took in what in your view was "too many" was your own fault, and if it was EU citizens from Eastern Europe with free movement that was the problem, then fine, stay without bricklayers and carpenters and cleaners and lorry drivers. As you make your bed, so you must lie.

[@bazmenko1]

100% accurate 👌

[@evanfinch4987]

It would still significantly benefit the EU if the UK were back in the single market right now; this isnt emotions its economics

[@JJLGamingNL]

Yeah, EU citizen here as well. Nobody talks about Brexit ever. We moved on years ago. There was a bit of annoyance with Boris Johnson reneging on deals on the Irish border in 2019 and that whole mess, but since then it's been quiet. The UK is intimately familiar with what it takes to participate in our market. If you want to get rid of border controls alltogether, then be like the Swiss and follow our rules (that you now don't influence anymore, sorry). That's what 'making a deal like the Swiss' means by the way; they agree to follow all of our rules and in return they get access to our market. If you don't want to follow our rules, then we won't give you special treatment. Why would we? What's in it for us? Trade deals, sure. Going back to the benefits of a full open market like they're described in this video? Not happening. We like you guys, and we'll always come to your help if someone attacks you or something, but come on; Brexit is done. You can either accept it, with all of its economic disadvantages, or rejoin us.

[@MigsCor21]

@@evanfinch4987 Right now? It wouldnt. They voted to leave, ended up actually leaving, yet brussels allows them to stay? Discredits the European Union, and by doing that, it also discredits the credibility of said market that is sustain by the union.

[@patrickmcathey7081]

Economicly your right however socal and political are overwhelming in favor of not doing that as it sets an example this is what happens when you leave.

[@eineperson9849]

As a german, when looking at this whole debacle, I felt every emotion from amusement to astonishment to plain old didgust. Yes the EU is not perfect, the decisions made in brussels are not perfect, but neither is the UK.

[@kravan5063]

I agree, however your country having issues you can directly resolve domestically is far superior than issues you can't solve with your vote in a foreign land with leadership you've never heard of and don't have the slightest interest in doing what's right for your country specifically. EU and Britain have issues, but British voters can influence British politics to solve our issues, British voters cannot influence EU problems.

[@StriKe_jk]

​@@kravan5063You are wrong. As a citizen in the EU I can tell you that our politicians can solve our countries problems while being in the EU. I don't know why you think that being in the EU means you have zero governing power over your own country but it's simply not true.

[@Arltratlo]

the decisions made by Tories are the nails in the coffin the UK is laying inside already!

[@Lawrence4000-s3k]

But it broadly is true. To deny there isn't a loss of sovereignty being in the EU is obtuse. By all means argue you get more benefits being in it but more accountable politicians isn't one of them. For small countries it has a greater benefit but for the UK much less so. @@StriKe_jk

[@StriKe_jk]

@@Lawrence4000-s3kI never said there isn't any loss of sovereignty, but it isn't even close to the amount that is suggested here. I advise reading up on what the EU actually decides and how those decisions get passed down to the individual countries. Countries inside the EU still govern themselves to the vast majority. Edit: I have to correct myself, countries inside the EU govern themselves completely. All laws are made by the countries themselves. They merely have to loosely adopt EU decisions into their own laws, with plenty of room for their own interpretation. Going any deeper into this topic is not suitable for KZbin comments. I again strongly advise reading or watching professionals explaining how the whole process works. (real experts not the common youtube quack)

[@karegnal]

Watching this on the eastern border of the North Sea, it's just sad to see how the UK cannot get Brexit done. For your information: we, the EU, moved on. Good luck.

[@skinless333x2]

Amazing how the UK still doesn't get it, people sitting there explaining how they want benefits back they previously had, not going to happen.

[@Mickyway]

It's pretty weird to talk about a country like a person. There's many people, the intelligent half, didnt want to leave and thereby would prefer have not lost the benefits in the first place.

[@jwadaow]

​@@Mickyway The European Union is suffering even more than the UK from sanctions placed on all Russian imports at the behest of Washington and London.

[@mattj905]

The UK doesn’t have trade deals with individual states in the US, it has MoU which is essentially nothing. This should be highlighted in the video.

[@JamesSmyllie1]

“Singapore on Thames” was never going to work. It already exists - it’s called Switzerland.

[@nextinstitute7824]

Good one. Indeed.

[@bbd121]

XD Is this what we call a cold burn?

[@w47w]

You are poorly informed! The EU is currently taking massive action against Switzerland and CO. The Tories and their bankers didn't expect that new authorities would come to the EU and show them what was going on with Singapore on the Thames! The new AMLA authority in Frankfurt is taking tough action against the Swiss/GB etc. business model. Branson/BAFIN is just around the corner. He is one of the best experts on the Swiss scene. He was formerly the boss of Finma! Furthermore, the many leaks such as Pandorra Papers and CO in FRG/Hesse are processed using AI and high-performance computers. These departments work for AMLA! They will have a massive increase in staff. Zucman and Co are also there with their EU authorities. They were pioneers of the AMLA! OECD tax Zucmann was the one why she came! AMLA initially had 500 employees and will be massively increased. All countries in the world can join AMLA to compare their data. This is where we are at the beginning and over time it will get really tough for some countries what will come out when data is compared. Wisthleblowers can report and receive full personal protection. The bonuses paid should then motivate them considerably to reveal data! So perfect prospects for GB when it comes to financial services of a special kind!

[@DJHillberg]

There are two more that actually like London also start with an "L": Liechtenstein and Luxembourg.

[@charlesbruggmann7909]

Absolutely not! Both Rhine and Rhône are much much cleaner than the Thames. You can go for a swimming perfectly safely in Basel or Geneva.

[@dionisos8152]

Were they really thinking to replace the European market, 450 million people just next door, with the Australian and New Zealand markets, 30 million people exactly at the other side of the planet? I hope they had a better plan than this.

[@Viggo1209]

"We're going global" were their words.

[@dionisos8152]

@@Viggo1209 yeah, their last words.

[@richardevans560]

No, we to be able to make our own laws. And now we can. We've now destroyed the Tory party, Labour will be next, then we can get on with rebuilding the UK

[@panchovilla5940]

😂😂😂😅

[@renebosselaar2198]

Watching this video, it comes to my mind that what the Brits really want is what they had being a member.

[@Dalladon]

It was one of their slogans no? The Brexiteers ran with "They need us, more than we need them" and I think they wanted their cake and eat it?

[@simondymond8479]

@@Dalladon Context is important. I think this was mainly based upon the point that the UK had a trade deficit of almost 2 to 1 when it comes to the major trading partners like say, Germany. Yet were paying slightly more each year to the EU than the next 19 members put together. At the same time, there was a serious democratic deficit within the EU itself, which was growing worse and all efforts to effect reform were blocked by a ten nation voting block reducing or entirely preventing British influence.

[@kravan5063]

Nope, main point of leaving EU was to have full control of our borders. If I have to sacrifice a temporary and relatively short term trade issues to have the ability to resolve the bigger issue, which is mass migration into Britain, both illegal and legal, then I'd happily swallow that pill.

[@luis_sa78]

​@@kravan5063and yet, you are breaking records of migration into UK AFTER you left 🤷

[@momchilyordanov8190]

@@kravan5063 And how is it going? Are you "controlling the borders"? You, Brexit folk, cannot get one simple thing - the immigrants are NEEDED in UK. The population is aging in a rapid pace and without immigration, there will not be enough people in working age to support the expensive social system. Someone needs to actually work, in order to generate the money for pensions, nursing homes, hospitals etc, etc... The only difference Brexit makes, is probably the nationality of immigrants. Will not be Polish or Romanian, will be Pakistani or Albanian. No other difference.

[@nickdoughty518]

Nostalgia for a past Empire never coming back and for British 'exceptionalism' that was an illusion. How could Brexit be a success?

[@bereal6590]

Bottom feed argument. It was way more complicated than that

[@nickdoughty518]

@bereal6590 I know. Cutting yourself off from your biggest and nearest market was hardly an intelligent move! Swashbuckling, Exceptional and Global Britain was for the birds.

[@onikamaraj1239]

The UK is still an empire that is still rising we are just in a bad situation but it will be fixed rapidly

[@nickdoughty518]

@onikamaraj1239 the most meaningless word salad from you that I have seen in some time. Which part of our 'empire' is rising then? India?

[@kravan5063]

@@nickdoughty518 What have you consumed that makes you think the current status quo in terms of trade agreements, is going to be this way for all eternity? Brexit was always short term drawbacks for the potential for better long term payoffs. Summarising Brexit as a total negative because we're in the short term negatives of it in the literal short term is dumb. The biggest issue for Britain was immigration, legal and illegal. Brexit was ultimately about immigration control. We have now the ability to fully control our own borders that we didn't whilst in the EU.

[@Folgeantrag]

I am not a UK Citizen. I regreted the Brexit Vote but i respected is a democratic decision. But i have absolutly no understanding that the Brexiteers complained about the simple fact of life that they did not get all the benefits of the common market further after brexit without the responsibilities of membership in the EU. You are a member of the club with all benefits and responsibilites or you are not. That is common sense

[@lidewijcroes1795]

There has always been a high level of arrogance among these people. So you have to take that into account when trying to understand how they think.

[@raphaelalexandreyensen6291]

as an American it's reassuring to know we're not the only country with tone deaf politicians who don't give a damn what they break.

[@MrTimg12]

And sadly our version of the MAGA cult followers.

[@permaxsun]

Apple does not fall far from the tree

[@sayantanmazumdar3]

Like father like son.

[@berndarndt9924]

It's not the same, since the uk let the people decide. Brexit isn't only the "fault" of politicians. The people who cared, decided that they want brexit. The politicians ofc could have made brexit a good thing.

[@moritze.2449]

Usa-lvl of political incompetence is on another lvl. And this is systemically.

[@benwhitnell]

Man, all of these people looking to make trade easier and synchronize standards across borders are going to be really surprised when they hear about the EU.

[@pierrewilliams1533]

I'm half-British, half-French. There's a sea that separates France from England. In France that sea is known as La Manche (sleeve). But in England it's called the English Channel. And that explains why Brexit happened.

[@paulstein8854]

I agree with the sentiment (German-American here), in German we say Ärmelkanal (literally "Sleeve-channel"). I believe Bretons call it the Breton Sea though, so it's not just the English that like to claim stuff for themselves.

[@yxx_chris_xxy]

@@paulstein8854 Well, the Bretons used to be Britons. They moved across the English WaterWall from the 3rd to the 9th century.

[@FoobsTon]

​@@paulstein8854 Well, we ALL know what Germans like to "claim for themselves". 😂

[@morganclare4704]

Everything??

[@DarkKreig]

Reminds me of that time when Boris Johnson said that there was no border between Scotland and England and then when he was ciritcising Scotland he said "North of the border". People like to change things when it suits them.

[@amigang]

Remember when they said you needed to vote brexit to remove red tape 🤣

[@mathelga]

That was a typo😂

[@renebosselaar2198]

Remember how the Aussie presenters of the news were laughing their pants of when covering the fresh trade deal with the UK? 🤣

[@Felix-t3n]

UK thought they were THE superpower of the EU, not only were they wrong, they also forgot the power of teamwork🎉

[@AntonGudenus]

George Parkers divorce analogy is completely wrong. The "two partners" have never been "throwing plates at each other". The UK wanted out of the EU and therefore the relationship and the EU said "OK, but that also means loosing the benefits of EU membership, sad to see you leave". It's basically one of the partners leaving on their own accords, because "they need space and find themselves", but at the same time wanting to keep all the access to the flat they just moved out of and for their ex to still act like they are in a replationship, whenever the one that broke up feels it's convenient. That won't work. All that Brexit actually accomplished, was the definite end of all the special deals the UK already had in the EU. If they want to rejoin at a later time, they will be treated just like any other country, not connected by a land border to most of Europe, who is trying to join or trying to make new trade deals.

[@Avengerie]

Patently wrong. The student exchange agreement mentioned elsewhere in the comments is one such example when it can absolutely be done, but EU treats being a member state as a prerequisite. It is spiteful and is done to make an example for counties thinking of leaving the EU in the future: “Do it, and you are entering the world of pain”. Because “towards an ever closer Union” is the entire raison d’etre of the EU, any talks of devolution and renegotiation of the major tenets of the EU is anathema to the bureaucrats in Brussels. The only reason the EU hasn’t collapsed in late 2010s due to their failed migration policy is because they bribed Turkey and the Northern African countries to intercept migrant caravans and ships. It is a dysfunctional bloc that is waiting for the perfect storm of crises to unravel it.

[@AntonGudenus]

@@Avengerie Could you point me towards the kind of student exchange programs the UK and/or EU have with other countries, that would both be, what the UK talks about and also have already been implemented?

[@Avengerie]

@@AntonGudenus Switzerland used to participate in the Erasmus+ programme. In 2011/2012 academic year, they had 2673 foreign exchange students and 2612 Swiss students were studying in EU universities, so it was fairly balanced. No “all of the benefits and none of the obligations” spiel the remainers keep parroting. But when they had the audacity to vote in a 2014 referendum to limit migration, they got booted from the programme. The EU voiced their “disappointment” in the result (which was legally binding), but when it was so watered down by the Swiss parliament that any mention of “quotas” was removed from it (the term used in the referendum), the European Commission “cautiously welcomed” it.

[@janickpauwels3792]

@@Avengerie Ah yes, Switzerland, that country that has pretty close ties with the EU, but via hundreds of separate treaties (a situation which the EU now hates). In international relationships/treaties, you ALWAYS have to look at a simple principle: "I give you THIS, and you give me THAT in return". This video fails to mention what the UK will give the EU in return for everything they want. The reality is that the current TCA is already heavily in favour of the EU. It checks all of our boxes. Why would we want to change any of this? This is not about being spiteful. It's just hard cold business. Nothing personal. Only the UK (politicians, media,...) makes this a personal thing.

[@amguardia]

@Avengerie I find it hilarious that people who voted out of the union and criticized it for being a blind bureaucratic mess, now complains that the UE actually has an agenda and is willing to enforce it. Yes, we won't let the UK into student exchange programs, because we actually have this 'sovereignty' you blab about so much, and therefore we do whatever we want. The UK never understood that EU was more than just a big trade union and actually had political goals, like keeping the continent together and preventing future wars. The economy was just a mean to that goal. You just want the student exchange to have good time in Spain ? well, stay out, and stay mad.

[@AbdillahiMohamedAbdi-s5r]

I've read somewhere that around two millions leave voters are now dead, meaning that if the vote happens today the people who vote to remain. Crazy how the messed it up for the youth in exchange of a sense of pride driven by their hubris before they died.

[@azzamalhanif9197]

Lmaoooo thats actually crazy

[@maywalker997]

Young people always had a strong sense of Brexit being driven by old people but unfortunately its very difficult to out-vote against big generations.

[@jseumed]

yep, it was a vote against the young and the non-white. sad.

[@puzoniasty1973]

A Scottish friend joked shortly after the referendum that it reminded him of a situation when someone who had just jumped out of a plane starts looking for a parachute. At that time he was not yet aware that it was rather gallows humor because, unfortunately, there is no parachute and there never was. Greetings from Poland

[@davidpaterson2309]

Gallows humour? Yep, that’s the very dark nature of Scottish humour - it’s only really funny if it’s tragic - he knew very well there was no parachute.

[@Stefan_Dahn]

100 m above the ground - about Brexit: "I'm feeling more free now and have zero negative impacts of Brexit". 😂 Pozdrawiam z Niemcy. ✌️ 🇩🇪❤️🇵🇱🇺🇦🇪🇺

[@Ken-ps9ux]

Us Scots seem to have a habit of being Governed by the unelected though. We were replaced by sheep a long time ago

[@crulove]

Hello Poland. Being in the EU might suit a small country like Poland that has only been a democracy for a few decades and who are a massive net beneficiary of EU funds. However the UK is a democracy dating back several hundreds of years and which hasn't been invaded in a thousand. Also within the EU UK taxpayer's were forced to hand over their hard earned money to be spend in countries like yours whilst their own communities were starved of funds. Britain made huge sacrifices in WW2 in defence of Europe, a little more humility and appreciation would be nice.

[@crulove]

@@nkem-2194 all EU countries have been flooded with Muslims. Its all part of the plan to weaken the individual countries so it is easier to take away freedoms. Poland is holiding out admirably but this won't last. The EU will force you to take millions of third-world Muslims just like all other EU members have from the UK, to Ireland, to France and Sweden. Plus as Poland gets wealthier you will eventually become a net contributor and see your tax money going to fund Albania and Moldova.

[@larslarsen5414]

The Brexit argument has always been that "the EU is a woke socialist fascist dictatorship run by despicable vindictive bureaucrats dreaming of suppressing, bullying and blackmailing the freedom-loving people of the UK", right? I recommend inviting people from the EU, and Europe in general, on British media. Perhaps this would create a bit more balanced view of what the EU actually is all about? I believe this would be the first step towards improving the relations between the EU and UK.

[@tonyradoina9147]

Sounds familiar here in the US, with the Klanpublicans and Trump.

[@richardevans560]

Can you make a law in the EU? Can you strike one down? If you don't have a mechanism to do either, you don't, you are run by multinationals

[@trident6547]

UK has NOT any "individual trade deals" with individual US states. It is The Office of the United States Trade Representative that negotiates the US trade deals and it is the the President who has the power to enter into treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate. Matthew Elliot has no idea what he is talking about. UK has signed an agreement on mutual cooperation with Texas and some other US states.

[@simoncolombo6640]

Well, facts were never in the way of Brexiteer fantasies. Nothing has changed. The funniest thing is, however, how UK politicians keep repeating those lies and utterly humiliating themselves and the UK internationally.

[@martin2289]

Shameless lying and misrepresentation is par for the course for Brexiteers. And right-wingers in general, for that matter.

[@Kujiranoai]

I think Matthew Eliot knows he’s a liar.

[@edmaximum]

Gosh that guy is embarrassing... he represents the Leave side very well... they have no idea what they are talking about

[@kinngrimm]

That doesn't mean though that governours could not within the framework established on the national level of the US, could not encourage deals by special regional circumstances like taxes, infrastructure, level of education of the populace from the particular state and such like. Not all states are even on all things. Same with european states and even regions within european states.

[@spekenbonen72]

This was never about immigration or taking control. Brexit was all about EU jurisdiction over finances. It was a lot harder to make bad economic choices (a.k.a. making politicians and their close friends richer). Destroying public services so rich folk can privatize all of it etc.

[@robduncan599]

Yet it needed imagination and stop imagination to get the racists fired up to go out and vote for this Brexit crap . As far as the snake oil salesmen were concerned it was all about stopping migrants. Or it would never have gotten off the ground.

[@m4inline]

That was the carrot offered to the British leadershio but who was doing the offering...

[@lllordllloyd]

This is the central single fact, and it was never raised by anyone during the run up to the referendum because everybody of inbfluence is in on it, and anyone not in on it was so stupid as to fall for all the bullsh!t arguments/stunts.

[@subcitizen2012]

Immigration was what convinced the leave referendum voters, and to them it's still about that.

[@adam7802]

I partially agree... because at the end of the day no matter what reason you think for the Tories had for wanting Brexit, Labour is going to start reversing that. The Tories are not a monopoly. You would be forgiven for thinking so with how poorly Labour did in the last election, I mean it is pretty special how badly the Tories have thrown themselves under the bus since the last election.

[@antonnurwald5700]

"The opportunities of brexit". Are there still people out there willing to utter these words? "The opportunities of shooting yourself in the foot". Frankly Britain with its dysfunctional politics got exactly what they ordered.

[@bend8353]

Great opportunity for xenophobes on pension. nothing to loose. Old crusties screwed the future

[@kurtgodel5236]

Oh yes! KZbin is replete with those muppets!

[@JamesKerLindsay]

That was the point that hit me too. It is unbelievable that these people still exist.

[@martinsalharriso2cou]

There were potentially Brexit Benefits, just not for the 'little people' who were duped into voting for it. The Elite wanted a 'bonfire of EU red tape' which translates as all those pesky rules designed to stop them abusing their employees. They want to go back to victorian times when they didn't have to provide pensions, sick pay, safe working environments etc etc. That way they could cut costs, and become even richer. It was a benefit for the 1% not the 99%. But they haven't even really got their wish on this, so even the rich are generally worse off. The most sickening bit for me is when small Leave voters still try to say they were right and we should 'move on'. They still think they won something, when in fact we all lost.

[@rayc9539]

I'm a remainer but even I know that not all leave voters wanted to exit the single market - which is the most contentious issue. And not all leave voters were influenced by immigration. Leave is ambivalent, which meant brexit could have been delivered in many different ways. All brexit really involved was the UK not being an EU member. Nothing to do with a close/distant relationship with the EU. Reasons for voting leave even included being an EEA member instead (which was offered during negotiations, but Thersa May and her corrupt government turned it down). EEA membership would have secured our place in the single market and enabled us to control our own farming and fishing legislation... Let's not forget that certain politicians said our place in the single market would not be jeopardised. It was Boris Johnson who dragged us out of the single market. He is a douche bag who only jumped on the leave bandwagon to rise to power.

[@georgehollingsworth2428]

In truth, Brexit was largely a consequence of resentment of immigrants and a wistful desire to restore Britain's position prior to the loss of it's Empire.

[@boomslangCA]

One of the people lied here. The UK doesn't have trade deals with individual US states; trade in the US is handled federally same as everywhere else. What they do have are MOU's with some states which are nice but meaningless and do not result in any change in trade status.

[@polysurf4145]

Yes, infuriating. FT still hobbled by the Minford Paradigm in featuring Matthew Elliot for the ‘balance’ of a pro-Brexit voice. He continues to peddle demonstrative lies, amongst which the ‘trade deals’ with individual US states are one of the most egregious. Along with the entirely one-way benefitting ‘major’ deals with Aus/NZ.

[@simenvrancken6434]

This all sounds filled with regulatory stupidity... As a European am I so glad to see Britain take this irresponsibility for other European countries to see how something like leaving doesn't "take back control". Hat of to you Britain for giving us that conscience.

[@derekasato9035]

American here, what was the former CEO of Vote Leave talking about trade deals with individual U.S. states? States do not have the power to sign those, the federal government has the sole power to make trade deals. It's something Republican state governors always complain about but there's never been a successful push for a Constitutional amendment to change that.

[@trident6547]

I already also commented the same. The people of UK are still being gaslighted by their government.

[@Iazzaboyce]

This is the main reason the UK people wanted out of the EU - to be able to make international trade deals without having a federal body in charge.

[@AlexGys9]

The UK have signed a Memorandum of Understanding with a few US states. Bexiteers equate these MoU's with trade deals to suit their narrative.

[@NoName-hg6cc]

@@Iazzaboyce You can now. And what's the result?🤣

[@brettwilliams2313]

Because the lies continue as a coverup of a monumental screwup that Brexit is.

[@tonydavies1736]

UK need to address the current situation with BREXIT............... Boris , Nigel and David C. NEED TO BE MADE ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wingberry123]

But the people themselves also needed to do their bit. At least think about the circumstances

[@harveytheparaglidingchaser7039]

Like our famous minister for Brexit Opportunities said: "The key is that we have our fish back: they are now British fish, and they are better and happier fish for it." What a wonderful world

[@kb4903]

Just shows you how it’s fun and games for the tories. Not serious people.

[@maywalker997]

The fishing communities were lied to about the benefits of leaving the EU, only to find out that post-Brexit they were just as powerless as before to stop problems like other nations over-fishing British waters. When the minister made the "British fish" comment it reeked of the contempt that he felt for such poor people. The Tories told so many outrageous lies and false claims that led to people voting Brexit, I hope that people never forget this.

[@kb4903]

@@maywalker997 they should vote for someone else next time then.

[@maywalker997]

@@kb4903 They will, but the damage is done (as it has been to all of the country). And people should absolutely expect accountability from politicians.

[@laucon11]

"What I'd like to hear is how we could get closer alignment with our closest trading partners." Interesting...if only there were some type of organization or union...oh wait a minute.

[@dandare1001]

Yes, dinosaur lady was a little confused. She should let her husband do the thinking.

[@ryantennyson7562]

A trade deal with California? Individual states have no power to make international trade deals. It would have to be a trade deal with the USA.

[@m4inline]

Arnie promised to sell some cigars.

[@autohmae]

pretty certain they are doing it because UK US trade deals failed.

[@sErgEantaEgis12]

There are trade deals between Canadian provinces and US states that are basically province-to-state deals and are just rubber-stamped by their respective federal governments, however these are usually for provinces neighboring the USA (or states neighboring Canada) such as Ontario and Michigan building a bridge or Quebec selling electricity to Vermont. It helps that the USA is Canada's biggest trading partner too. I don't see this kind of deal-making process translating well to the UK.

[@CristianoZanetti-nn1dg]

As an Italian who used to live in the UK, I would like to ask a question: why does it seem that politicians and the general public are not discussing the clear link between Russian neo-expansionism and Russian interference in the Brexit referendum, which, in my eyes, was Russia's greatest achievement in foreign policy? Divide et impera, as an old chap used to say. The result for Russia is that the UK is now a more isolated competitor, irrelevant in EU politics, and economically impoverished. By the way, thank you to the FT for this video.

[@MrBenMhidi]

So according to your comment. Boris Johnson and Nagel Farage are russian agents?!!

[@MrBenMhidi]

Ask Boris Johnson and Farage

[@CyfClaudia]

if Russia can single-handedly enable this to happen, UK as a country is doomed. I don't mean it's not doomed now though.

[@edonveil9887]

​@CyfClaudia it was a close call. If RF was able to influence 2% of the voters they had made it.

[@richardevans560]

Bwhahahahahaha! Good one. Next you'll be claiming far right influences caused Brexit.

[@edgardebruin5539]

UK will never get a Swiss or Norway deal. so stop thinking like that, only way to get access is to rejoin

[@samhartford8677]

Ah, but you miss the point. They want bits of the Norway and Swiss deals without any of their obligations. (Sarcasm warning.)

[@woodpecker1284]

Switzerland and Norway have free movement with the EU. Absolute heresy for the Brexit party.

[@annabelholland]

Another difference is that Switzerland and Norway are clearly against being in the EU. However, like the person above said, they have freedom of movement (because of Schengen). However, UK has never considered joining Schengen after it received an opt out along with the euro. If we do rejoin however, we are likely mandated to join both eventually.

[@woodpecker1284]

@@annabelholland You won't be mandated to adopt the EUR, the UK economy needs to qualify first which it likely doesn't anymore... Schengen isn't a critical issue either, there are parts of the EU, actually parts of key EU members that are non-Schengen. Industrial & food standards, Free movement of goods (one VAT zone), services AND PEOPLE (latter doesn't necessarily mean Schengen), basically that's what makes the EU. Adoption of a new member takes years, just look at e.g. Croatia, which is a fairly well balanced economy.

[@annabelholland]

@@woodpecker1284 I forgot to say, once the convergencecriteria is met. It can take a very long time. Just look at Sweden. After 30 years, it is not even in the ERM II yet (the final stage to adopt the euro) because it intentionally doesn't want to meet it. Denmark will most likely never adopt it because it has an opt out.

[@missme2046]

Too much pride caused this. Too much Pride is never good.

[@TALESCOFFEE]

Basking in their aged glory

[@missme2046]

@@TALESCOFFEE yeah, sometimes you just gotta accept together with your neighbors you can prosper faster than just being on your own. Imagine if the United States of America weren’t united 😂 do you think they’d still be as prosper as they are now?

[@TALESCOFFEE]

Isn't one of the big issues of the EU because of the imbalance of $ flow? In the US the big cities can make more because the little ones produce more ... on an overly simplified way to explaining it. At least the overall US is in a surplus. However, with the EU because they're not under one big banner .. the small countries for production operate at negative GDP for the bigger ones to have a higher GDP. Because they're not the same country it's not a give or take so the balance was off. That's the biggest issue of the EU no?@@missme2046

[@Dalladon]

@@TALESCOFFEE Ever hear the one about the 1966 World Cup, cause if you haven't they'll surely tell you about it 🤣

[@saba1030]

​@@TALESCOFFEENO. The EU27 are a pragmatic, rule based organisation/union of independent and souvereign countries with their democratic elected Parliament (with PR) and its MEPs working on behalf of the democratic elected EU27 member states Gvts and their 450ish million citizens. The EUs Council = the EUs member states GVTS and the democratic elected MEPs are the rule/law/decision makers in the EU. EVERY EU member state has one voice, Malta (about 550.000 people) the same as Germany (about 84ish million people), every EU member state has one voice. The EUs SM/EEA is there to benefit its 450ish million citizens, so they can = live, trade, work, travel as they can do in their own countries. "United in diversity, all for one, one for all, together we're strong", THAT are the EU27 😊 Greetings from the EU27 🖐

[@Orixil]

The irony is that all the issues the UK now faces and all the talked-about solutions for them....is the European Union. That's why the EU was made - to solve all that paperwork and friction and checks and what not. It's a 30min Brexit film that basically just indirectly explains what the EU is and what it does. We've come full circle.

[@dormoisjean-pierre1436]

How did the British electorate move from being the most economically literate and the most immune to demagoguery in Europe to being the most credulous, unworldly and clueless about politicians. Put this down to the sorry state of state education for the past 50 years as well as the ridiculous superiority complex it has been imbued with relentlessly.

[@tonyradoina9147]

Doenst it remind you of the Klanpublican party here in the US under Trump.

[@herlandercarvalho]

Answer: Access to the Internet. Whether people want to accept it or not, the Internet is democracy's biggest nemesis. Makes it too easy to spread propaganda and misinformation, and the effort to combat misinformation, is much higher than spreading lies.

[@richardevans560]

We joined the EEC. That removed democracy, our MPs being responsible to the public for the laws and immigration policy and drained our economy of £100 bn

[@poppyblue1512]

This is happening around the world now, it's definitely happening in Latin America. And we could argue that the state of public education was never good here, but people were absolutely not as gullible 20+ years ago as they are now. In my country, in 2001 an entire country united to make an (incompetent) president quit and run away from the presidential palace. Now they just cheer the current president while he's literally stealing money from their pockets and will endlessly repeat what they were lied with, that's this is necessary to save the country's economy and that things will get better eventually, just hold on, and will fight with nails and teeth anyone who dares to oppose them and tries to make them see how this is a bad idea and it's not going to end well for most of us who are just workers and small business owners. I blame social media and how easy it is to spread and consume propaganda now. I can see in 5 years people here starting to regret their decisions but not wanting to admit they made a mistake, just like it happened with brexit to British people.

[@poppyblue1512]

​@@herlandercarvalhoexactly! That's what I just said. Social media particularly is where most of the current problems of the world originate and spread.

[@RicoSeminari]

The fact we're still here talking about it 8 years after the Referendum is frankly quite telling..

[@jan80trs]

Yes, because despite all, it's a sad thing.

[@happybrit8585]

Nah , it's just people who can't get over the fact they lost the referendum . There is no going back so get used to it

[@jamesfairweather9116]

No, it really isn't.

[@KnarfStein]

I feel bad about Britons who wanted to remain in the E.U., but I can't deny that the E.U. has been strengthened by Britain's self-sabotage.

[@FrostSapphire-bm2tt]

Telling of how badly the Tories F'ed everything up.

[@endintiers]

Most trade deals require some loss of sovereignty. Australia had to change many laws to get a FTA with the US, including paying more for drugs and extending copyright. If the UK wants a FTA with the US, this will cost some sovereignty.

[@benghiskahn3673]

We already sold our sovereignty to the US. They don't need that. They'll want something else instead.

[@pcawte]

Precisely

[@pcawte]

Brexit sovereignty is North Korea style sovereignty. The backers of this just want sovereignty for themselves over their money which they continue to hide in UK/crown linked overseas territories - and just con the people into thinking it is something else

[@user-jm9rh6py5i]

Yes, global trade requires loss of sovereignty, by adapting to the targeted market law. The biggest paradox is, that: - when was GB in EU, they had ability to control the regulation up to some point, but had to accept law they agreed on. - in the post Brexit Britain, they lost of control and influence in law making, but to be able to sell in the largest neighborhood market, they have to adapt to the legislation. What more , huge effort has to be put in it, as you are communicating it separately for each products category. - if GB makes it back into the single market, without the membership, the paperwork get reduced again, but still being unable to participate on the trade legislation and have to accept all the law and regulations. In any case, GB has less sovereignty, than when it was in EU.

[@jamesprice4647]

ALL trade deals are compromises.

[@alexandrelarsac9115]

As a European citizen, I think Brexit is the best thing that has ever happened to the Union. Thank you Farage, thank you Trump, thank you Putin for having rid us of a burden.

[@HappyinJapan358]

Welcome to Britain! We can now take a dump in our rivers or coastline without anybody telling us we can’t do it. It’s annoying the dividends of the waterworks go abroad but at least we can keep an eye on our own turds.

[@ChristopherPhillips]

Oh look someone who hasnt bothered to look at Spain and Ireland's sewage record.

[@Thurokiir1]

you literally dont own your own sewer system - why do you think you have any right to talk to people who actually do own their own sewer system? I'm happy to pay taxes, thank you.@@ChristopherPhillips

[@ChristopherPhillips]

@@Thurokiir1 Do explain what that has to do with Brexit. Oh.

[@robhughes645]

@@ChristopherPhillips seriously? That's your response, ' ... but look at those guys' ... this is the reason Britain is the worlds biggest joke. Like 10 year olds ...

[@denisdaly1708]

​@@ChristopherPhillips😮I live in Ireland. Our record is way way better.

[@svenvandevelde1]

Continental European here giving his feedback from just across the channel ... The UK gave away its leading role in Europe by leaving the EU, losing everything. Rebate: gone. Special privileges (also called opt-outs like keeping the GBP): gone. Acess to the single market: gone. Free trade agreements through EU trade deals: gone. No country in the world has inflicted so much damage to itself as the UK has done to itself. The FT video shows a country in shambles trying to stitch the pieces together of what is left. The UK lost a lot of goodwill from EU member states. Why will an EU member country trade with a more expensive UK when it can find similar services or goods within its borders? These views are never brought up. It is always from the UK standpoint but maybe the hard fact is that the EU does not want any negotiation with the UK any more. No more cherry picking. No more insulting and arrogant behaviour from the UK needed. No more discrimination to people of EU member countries. I feel sorry for those who voted remain.

[@johnm2714]

I'm sure the EU doesn't want to reopen negotiations. Understandably so. And it has all it needs. Much is said about the UK's privileged position within the EU, but that fails to grasp the true situation. It is a Franco-German enterprise. There were numerous occasions when decisions by the French and/or German governments disadvantaged the UK. Some, such as the German interest rate rise that threw Britain out of the ERM and effectively prevented us from joining the Euro, and the stitchup that foisted Juncker on us as Commission President contrary to established practice, compromised our position within the Union. Others, such as the finance industry changes demanded during the Greek bailout which forced Cameron to use a veto, but were brought in by other means anyway, pushed us towards the exit. We got a lot of bad press for standing up for things that mattered to smaller members, for being 'awkward', but the accepted negative picture is from the Franco-German perspective. France and Germany waived rules when it suited them (stability pact, anyone?) but avoided cooperation when it might have benefited us. There is quite a bit of dishonesty in European narratives. And I voted remain.

[@formxshape]

Don’t worry, UK is rapidly, exponentially becoming an Islamic state… it’ll soon resemble Afghanistan.

[@riskinhos]

@@formxshape fortunately there's a sea border so europe is safe.

[@Kamfrenchie]

@@johnm2714 It's not franco german, we french get very little from it

[@Kamfrenchie]

It's a fantasy to think the EU doesn't want the UK in. Eu needs contributing members to the budget to give redistribute EU funds to poorer members

[@JamesKerLindsay]

A fantastic video that highlights the true scale of the problems now confronting the UK. Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster. However, the comments by that lawyer about not giving up sovereignty to have trade were extraordinary. After all that has happened, he is still suggesting that there were unrealised opportunities from Brexit. This is the type of unbelievably narrow minded ideological Brexitism I thought had all but disappeared (apart from David Frost) now we can see the utter damage that it has done.

[@adrianarchie]

lol EU is becoming a totalitarian state. Brexit was about democracy.

[@private-private]

And its why Europe will not want Britain back but these fools along with the toxic UK media will never be and honest actor regarding the EU. They will constantly complain, blame, shame and why would the Eu want that. They put up with it for years and they put up with Farage for years egged on by much of the British media with many britons laughing along with him at the EU along with Boris the sociopath complaining about straight bananas and telling the UK to " take back control" as if the EU was holding Britain back.

[@avanx7699]

You need to start looking at the bright side of Brexit dear brits,...it is very, very educational for you guys and really, really funny for everyone else.😘

[@gaborbakos7058]

And there are many Brexiters who moved to France and Spain after Brexit and they arrogantly complain about that the people don't speak English there.

[@janetchandler2852]

I have lived in Spain since 1986 and having residency so I can return without the 90 days restriction. I can't believe how many people who lived here voted Brexit and suddenly found they couldn't live there all year in their British communities. I speak Castillano and am integrated, I don't understand the expat mentality. I find living in a country is better if you mix!!