We NEED to Talk About Reactor Farming. (Reactor Farming Changes Wishlist) | The First Descendant

[@CarySmith87]

If it is going to be locked to one ammo type, that would be beyond stupid on the developers' part. I think the goal behind this change is to allow us to have three different weapons on one reactor so we do not lose the bonus when we swap weapons

[@samst-louis9389]

Exactly, that would be stupid AF and totally useless, why I would want 3 snipers on one reactor, that doesn't make any sense.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

they didn't pick 3 as the number for no reason- clearly it was so we can use 1 reactor for all the weapons we have equipped, for a given character and build (same elements and sub element). so locking it to the ammo type makes absolutely zero sense and if that is what they did, the devs are completely brain dead.

[@kush2620]

right it would make reactor farming boring

[@maxwellduplissey5884]

What I think is a way better idea than rerolling, bc everyone hates weapon substat rerolling - endless fusions. Like the mounting changes they are doing, but for substats too. and not capped at 3 changes. build-a-bear your reactor from ones you get.

[@maxwellduplissey5884]

also make any fused mounting active not just 1. Why punish me for using my full loadout that I specifically built my 3 slot reactor for

[@danjanosick3582]

The Magic phrase of "player retention" comes to mind when reading the changes. They're making farming "easier", but it still requires a grind to keep players logged in.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

and having more places to grind, and a better chance to turn a turd into a good drop, is exactly fitting that purpose. that some end game extreme minority that has ALREADY ground the crap out of the game, will have some ready-made 'god rolls' for the change... then so what? this is a change for the many, not the few that clearly have a higher threshold for grindy bullshit in the first place. for the record, I am in this minority, but see how what we have now is unsustainable- too many layers of RNG. we ALSO need the element off substats removed (it's litterally useless). rerolling also makes sense, and would be fine, if they didn't already decide to go with this mounting adding system (which to me, seems kinda ass-backwards, but whatever, I don't like losing my skill power bonus if I swap weapons regardless of the reactor farming implications).

[@alexlane9099]

​@grumpyoldman6503 I agree with you. When does the player start earning? Right now, all the player earns is RNG.

[@fammud1192]

Reactor farming just causes burn out, not retention. Hopeless dull grinds are definitely not what's going to keep people playing.

[@AftermathAAA]

Like fire reactors dropping with ice or toxic makes no sense. But remember as it relates to skills like tech, fusion, singular etc. that can’t change because there will be future descendants who possibly use those

[@nickrobinson5715]

Not only that, but descendants like viessa whose skills change to singular depandant on transcendent mod

[@grumpyoldman6503]

yes, it's just the top element conflict that should be disallowed, but I've had reactors drop with *2 off main element* rolls (eg fire reactor with both chill and toxic) as substats, which is just 'ugh', especially when it's double gold.

[@skulls_crusher303]

This is the most beautiful video i’ve ever seen on KZbin, and my opinion is ABSOLUTELY YES! FUCK reactors farm its the most annoying time consuming piece of shit in the game. And just like you i dont think the implanting system is enough even if its more than 1 ammo type… so if its locked behind one ammo type then thats the dumbest change they’re ever made IMO. And also yeah if they could just remove getting fire skill power boost ratio on a chill reactor, or a singular skill power boost ratio on a tech reactor, then that would be a very good start. Other than that i hope they see this video cuz im fr bouta quit playing this game cuz of this reactor farming BULLSHIT

[@KetchupT100]

Also how about removing sub-attack power and adding MP recovery modifier?

[@grumpyoldman6503]

would be appreciated and more useful, sub attack power is borderline 'useless' (not like off main element which is litterally useless, just mostly useless since we don't really have a sub attack power meta)... and HP recovery is niche so I'd keep those honestly. but if they ditched off elements and ADDED MP recovery modifier- hells to the ya!

[@Crazycazper]

Just because sub attack power isn’t useful currently doesn’t mean they should remove it maybe they add a melee because descendent in the future

[@KetchupT100]

@@Crazycazper have you tried using melee attacks? They're horrible lol

[@Lowlight23]

I like the arche mismatch should not happen on reactors. A fire reactor should not have a bonus to chill stats.

[@pjraver]

Hey reactors, denneys to welcome

[@steel8240]

A) they should 100% implement a reroll system. The same should hold true for external components as well. That entire part of the gameplay loop is an extremely frustrating experience and a clear negative aspect. B) some combinations should def be removed from the chance category (ie no fire skill on toxic reactor) but saying there shouldn’t be a ‘fusion toxic’ (just random example) is wrong because a descendant could come with that requirement some day if they’re not here now. And lastly C) I feel people are too invested in this particular aspect given its massive rng on rng on rng (etc) nature. I have zero interest in farming for this for any extended time as it is just a waste. Play the game, hopefully get lucky. But running the same mission over and over again to hit the lottery seems like a main source of burnout for a lot of folks. Just my 2 cents

[@KetchupT100]

For B) What he meant is that you get a Singular reactor and it rolls a Tech boost on it. Why would any descendant want that? Their current design wouldn't allow any descendant that would make use of that to be any good.

[@steel8240]

@@KetchupT100 right, currently no descendant could use that, but one could potentially in the future

[@KetchupT100]

@@steel8240 I understand that but with their current descendant design, if one comes out that can use that it will be terrible due to how modding and scaling works. You can't really spec into two different things and have either of them work to full potential.

[@steel8240]

@@KetchupT100 nah, if for instance yujin got a fusion reactor that then had fusion & singular on it it’d be fine. Idk, I’d argue more for the removal of sub attack altogether over this. But in any event a reroll system would solve that particular issue. It’s way more egregious to get chill on a fire reactor then have 2 items that could boost but not be optimal. Just how I see it

[@grumpyoldman6503]

@@KetchupT100 yes and no- I'd be OK with them locking the substat elements to the main reactor- THAT would be a HUGE difference in the RNG and time to farm (maybe 'too easy'). But there are descendents have have 2 damage skills that are seperate elements (most of them, actually) so there needs to be a way for those combinations to come up in the substats. As an example- farming for leap Ajax, looking for Secret Garden (ugh) with ND/tech both double gold. I failed at this farm when it's come up in the past despite MANY hours put into it at 1 of the best farms possible for reactor drops/time. I stopped with a Tech/Dimension (gold and purple, QQ) reactor as that buffs both his leap (Tech, what I wanted) and his shout (Dimension due to the trans mod- not what I wanted but what I settled for).

[@bicardo]

The biggest problem for me is the mandatory weapon assigned to each reactor. This means that we need a specific reactor for each weapon if we want to have some variety when playing, and also mention how annoying it is to change each reactor when changing descendants

[@grumpyoldman6503]

yes, that is the whole point of the weapon exchange thing they are rolling out. question is what are the limits and what does it take to expand a mounting?

[@savagedrew]

Listen I’ve said this on a couple other content creators videos. Hopefully, it gains some traction here. There are 21 different sub stats on reactors. If you have an electric/singular roll, as an example. Then fire,toxic, non-attribute,chill and fusion, dimension,tech should not be an option to roll on that reactor. That eliminates 7 stats there and you its a start in the right direction. Now, sub attack and hp recovery could stay but Imo they are kind of useless. They could be replaced with a new sub stat which I will get to in a moment. Jumping to the factions for a minute. All we really care about is additional skill atk to colossus. I feel these should be changed. Combine the other three factions and do additional skill atk outside of an intercept battle, ie: dungeons, farming, etc. and do additional skill atk in an intercept battle, this would not only cover colossus but those damn roly poly assholes too. Now, back to the sub power and hp recovery. Again, these could stay but I would suggest dropping them and adding additional firearm atk in an intercept battle and additional firearm atk out of an intercept battle. So recap 21 stats Example: electric/singular Take away 7 boosts = 14 stats Rework factions from 4 to 2 12 stats now Drop sub attack/hprecovery 10 possible good stats now are left, unless you replace sub/hp with suggested firearm atk in/out. Regardless, 21 to 12/10 is a lot better. Now, for your suggestions in this video. Yes we don’t have endgame yet but I want that to be content and reactor grind. So I agree with having a reactor with any three weapons on it would be great.Hailey for example, I want EL,Greggs and piercing. White, orange, purple bam! Done. As for the re-roll factor, I agree with that too but with my suggestion might make it a bit too easy, regardless I don’t care. I’d say use my suggestion and do the re-roll too. Also, I wouldn’t mind doing something with components as well. Either have the ability to change the atk,def,shield or let us upgrade them as well but for the sub stats. Like if I get gold/purple but they are both the stats I like. Let me upgrade the purple to gold. Apologies in advance for the long rant 😅

[@grumpyoldman6503]

I agree with the jist of all you have here and that we need something to grind for in a grind game- 1. mounting is an issue (being dealt with in some manner) 2. # of possible combinations is an issue (geometrically increased by #1, which was the biggest impact to the RNG) 3. range of the possible rolls is an issue 4. Nexon devs clearly have no issues 'borrowing' good ideas from other IP This is why I think not only should we be able to reroll substats on both reactors and components (with an appropriate, grindable and/or researchable with grindable mat), I also would like a recalibration 'library' and system where we can CHOOSE 1 of the substats to swap out (which locks the other stat from being recalibrated), AND I think we need an optimization feature where we can, again with an apropriate mat, buy up the substat rolls to max. This is straight out of The Division 2. This gives you a lot of grindable options to both increase playtime but also MIN/MAX to the logical extreme, which can always just be power crept by the devs in the future, which they are going to do regardless.

[@aya211]

lock ammo type or not, for me at least its gonna be better than current situation. also havnt had chance to answer in ur stream, that someone said we dont have to farm reactor in warframe. warframe have a lot stupid grind too. i farmed 2 whole week for kuva to reroll for BiS for one of my weapon. and end up bought it instead, cost me around 8k plat. i dont mind grinding, but it has to have some challenge in the game. otherwise idk why i'm grinding for. this game still in early state. hope they finish fixing an issue soon and start making proper content.

[@renraiha1564]

I dont know why everone thinks that the reactor changes are still gonna be tied to ammo types. That would make no sense the main reason they are adding this system is because of the new Frost Watcher no? If they still make it tied to ammo types people that farmed hailey reactors will be pissed. I feel like avoiding this type of situation and any similar one in the future is their goal with this change.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

yes, I feel like locking it to the same ammo type as the original reactor would defeat the point of even doing it in the first place. I don't need 3 launchers in 1 reactor, or even a shotgun, laucher, and sniper. That's a non starter and a pointless change.

[@pjraver]

Hey denneys, welcome to reactors

[@Crazycazper]

I’m against removing the sub types because they can always add new descendent with for example fire singular but I do agree that they should remove the elements that don’t match the reactor unless they add descendents with multiple elements

[@grumpyoldman6503]

agree, the 'top' or main element shouldn't conflict in the substats, but beyond that... fair game, better luck next drop.

[@Crazycazper]

@@grumpyoldman6503 exactly and I already found and saved some great double gold sub stats for potential new descendants

[@robert-84-hw]

I stand by what I think would be a great way to handle it: consuming trash reactors into your weapons based on the arche + sub type + weapon preference such that if you had a Fire + Tech with junk bonuses with the Secret Garden mounting, consume it and now Secret Garden is +160%ed with all of your Fire + Tech reactors forever. It limits the need to pop in and out new reactors to your reactor (unless the change is a consumed deal meaning you'd need more to slot into any secondary reactors which makes the whole process even more painful) and as an added bonus it gives us something to farm in a 'fun' and beneficial way. The dopamine hit this game gives me is purely in collecting things and trust me if I am given an opportunity to hunt down every arche + sub type for enduring legacy to unlock that +160% enhancement for example, I'm going to do it. So it gives people something to do when they hit that point where, say, they've done everything with the seasonal so they aren't playing quite as much. Win-win.

[@diamondhsn4173]

I stopped playing for a week or 2 now, only because I started Hailey reactor farming I spent the whole week farming 5 hours a day only farming a reactor and I didn't get a single piercing light mounted with crit dmg and clussiisisss dmg in total 30 hours. Decided to stop until they change the reactor farming.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

yes, that was the farm that broke me too and changed my mind on the subject. I think it was like that for a lot of people that have nothing else to chase,-and doing the same mission for a week, OVER AND OVER AND OVER and getting litteral garbage, while dealing with an intentionally tiny inventory and clunky method of deleting ALL THE CRAP you don't want... is just a 'man, I got better things I could be doing with my time' moment... no matter the T&A digital wifu skins available.

[@SparkZ009]

The changes will be retroactive so you can grind now. Especially if theres good missions that are comfy to grind rn. Hailey comes to mind with the white night gulch mission.

[@DGtheChef.]

I think the mounting type that is coming along with reactors rolling with the correct stats i.e. not rolling a fire on a chill reactor is a perfect solution without making it too easy. And I hope we get different weapon types on each reactor, there's no way they will limit a reactor to just one ammo type.

[@NoNameHQ]

great thoughts, something I want to add is that I think your take on the value of a reactor is missing half a step - it's entirely agreeable that there's an aspect of reactor grinding that is to be considered a marginal upgrade that shouldn't take an excessive amount of time, but it's not the initial getting of the roll you want it's the chasing of a better version of that roll. For example, Bunny gets loads better to play no matter which level of -cost + boost ratio you get, and then you shoot for higher rarities because you're after the marginal power increase from say, getting that double gold roll. And to that end, I do think that it's almost a reasonable grind once we get the mounting change to actually need to grind a bit for that power increase, the same way we had to grind to get the mods fitted into our descendants and all the other meaningful power increases we got. Fixing mounting will remove a lot of the pain here in working on ultimate reactors and we should definitely just see if it works out first before jumping to needing even more cuts to the grind. adding a little bit more to that, purple reactors aren't obsolete/unimportant, they just aren't the final version of the reactor. they are absolutely incredible stepping stones though while waiting on a specific weapon one to drop, or in my case at the moment where I'm not always using the same gun always due to needing to change what the active gun is in order to actually level things effectively. we don't want to ignore steps in the progression process just because we're beyond them

[@grumpyoldman6503]

I'd like to see them add in a recal 'library' (and susbstat exchange mechanic) and a optimization (grind up a substat on a piece of gear with mats to the max value) system like Div2. I'd grind up a drop to max with rare mats if I could just chip away at it over time and know that I'm at max potential. It's a direct way to both guarantee progress over time, and combat excessive RNG. It rewards time played, which I assume is another metric they care about to show investors. It makes OCD min/max munchkins like myself happy. It can still be invalidated by future power creep and 'better' versions of things being released at a later time. They can use new mats from added content, or use it as a way to sink the mats we have no real use for right now (like upgrade mats for purple guns and reactors).

[@Qballiz2kool]

I’ll use my own experience today farming for a reactor for Freyna in preparation for her ultimate coming. I’ve been farming for about 3 days for a Secret Garden mounting, Toxic Tech reactor with Skill Effect Range and Tech Skill Boost. I’ve gotten close but the stats would be one off, or I’d get what I wanted star roll wise but the mounting is wrong, this take SO much time because the amount of rng you have to trudge through, so trying to get say purple and gold or all gold star rolls is just setting yourself up for frustration and is imo the wrong way to go about farming for the perfect reactor for a build. It’s much better to take a blue roll on one stat you wanted of the 2nd stat AND weapon mounting are both what you want, as the blue roll isn’t as high as a purple or gold sure, but it’s still a boost nonetheless. Like for example, the above reactor I’ve been searching for that I was talking about, I actually got it just now, but it has blue skill effect range and purple tech skill power boost. Out of those two stats the tech skill power boost is the most important so it being purple is the best possible roll I could get (yes it would be better if it was gold, but again you gotta take what you can get sometimes.) Now the Skill Effect Range however rolled blue, which is a 0.198x increase, compare this to a purple stat skill effect range which can roll with a 0.226x increase and while yes, the purple WOULD be better in this situation, the blue stat one is still a boost, so it’s good especially given how rng the stats on reactors are. All of this to say that for reactors given how much rng is wrapped around them, its better to just take something that’s close to what you want, even if the stats aren’t the exact rarity you want them, rather than banging your head against a wall trying to get a Gold+Purple stat, or a Gold+Gold stat reactor.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

@Qballiz2kool this is why I advocate for optimization like in div2. Let me grind it up to max so I can polish that turd and turn it into gold. Win win situation IMO for any grind-fest looter shooter. Especially if you have extreme layer cake RNG like reactors in TFD.

[@Deram1Axres]

Honestly all gear needs a revamp on what it can roll and we need a reroll ability, or just a way to force stats, I hate rng stats on gear more than anything else. Its a free to play game so I'll begrudgingly allow it, but I hate dealing with this stuff so much. I would much rather have the slots and you burn resources to put specific stats on it, way too much RNG in this game, Warframe has riven mods, but I ignore them, I can't ignore the RNG stats in this game unless I want to majorly nerf my descendants and weapons. Also a dismantle on pickup for things that don't meet criteria needs to be added, just way too many useless junk on the ground, especially if your farming a specific currency/materials/mission/etc, crashed this game a few times because of the amount of gold/purple items on the ground.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

the small (purchasable up with premium currency- so designed to be annoying) inventory **really** doesn't help the reactor grind be bearable. we'll see when the new vendor comes in and we can grind for paints and inventory slots, but it doesn't fix how unrewarding the naked RNG of reactors currently is. components are almost as bad, but less layers of RNG garbage. I agree with you I'd rather have something like div2 with a recalibration function and optimization to max my gear through straight grind.

[@samst-louis9389]

We'll see in 7 days but I really hope for the best cuz reactors farming is boring and frustrating AF. I gave up on farming reactors for now.

[@AscendAndSee]

We NEED to talk about airplane food. What's the deal with it?

[@dcinzona]

I don't think it was confirmed for October 10, has it?

[@Crazycazper]

Ngl I know this probably won’t happen but it would be cool if when we implement the reactor weapon optimization they also bring the sub stat rolls of that reactor and add/ stack with the one u have so instead of 2 gold rolls at the bottom you could potentially have 6 that would be interesting and probably make it farming reactors a nightmare but hey I’m totally down for it

[@Antiichristo]

Did I see that right?? Does it not spend you're stabilizer when you activate it after you shape the amorphous material??

[@DenneysYT]

might be a visual bug

[@anonlemming9977]

They didn't actually say that the reactor changes are coming on October 10th

[@stevo6ix]

Im fine with the change if ammo type locked to reactor but it would be nice to reroll one of the stats on the reactor. Also they need to kind of rework the misson spawns of monsters, it needs to be faster and a lot more monsters. I hope down the line they add new missions to the field

[@Seven7swords]

If Reactor farming is not the pinnacle of farming in TFD, then what is? Component farming? When you have your perfect reactor for each build are you then going to focus on getting gold stats on your Auxiliary component and complain that takes to long, too? I am all for having more player agency but there has to be a point were we realize that not everyone is going to go and get three perfect reactors and component sets for every character. Some people are going to max a character for mastery and dump them. Most will optimize a handful of characters and yhey will only want 6 near perfect reactors. The devs jave to keep the carrot on the stick for players or people will drop the game on e their build is perfect. Re rolling stats on reactors is a good idea. Expecting a Tech reactor to only roll tech skills is too much, especially when most characters have a combination of tech, singular, dimension, or fusion. At that point, just get rid of the roll. Hell, just turn the fire/electric/chill/toxic roll to a Skill Power roll. I can agree with reducing the randomness of farming but there has to be some friction. Should we really be able to run one mission, get a toxic tech peircing light reactor with colusses and singular damage, fuse it into a Secret Garden mounting and roll the Singular off for Tech Skill Power? Should an optimized reactor be THAT free? Again, the only people who will want 3 or more God Rolled reactors for each Descendant are Content Creators. Us average players are not optimizing a charavter we don't like playing.

[@rass2point096]

I'd pay 10mil gold to choose my stat rolls.

[@herbertcoxe3601]

Only 10? No lie… I could pay 100mil easily and sleep like a baby that night, Doesn’t everyone just have that much right? Like what are people using it on lol

[@grumpyoldman6503]

@@herbertcoxe3601 invasions have killed gold farming completely for me. sitting on 250mil gold and all the mods I'd ever need already upgraded. so future trans mods... maybe? bring on the gold sinks for upgradable gear and replacing substats I say.

[@Curlyheadrae24]

People do put to much emphasis on going for golds only. I was farming for a gold skill cooldown with toxic or tech boost for substats for Freyna. I got a gold skill cool down and purple toxic boost, I ended my farming. The difference between gold and purple isn’t a major difference. I even got a blue tech boost with a blue range boost, I’m good with those 2 for freyna, no need to go for golds, unless I get one by just playing I won’t spend time on it.

[@TheHeyliger]

I think the weapon mounting change will be a good improvement. When I’ve maxed a character I just move on to the next one instead of enjoying my OP build! The thrill is in the chase (for me). If there’s nothing to chase I lose interest so still having a bit of a grind with reactor’s is critical IMO. Also we don’t know what new descendants are around the corner so that fire reactor with fusion you thought was trash could be broken on that new fire/fusion descendant! Just a thought..

[@grumpyoldman6503]

"Also we don’t know what new descendants are around the corner so that fire reactor with fusion you thought was trash could be broken on that new fire/fusion descendant! Just a thought.." Sure, but I don't have the inventory nor stash space to save 'just in case' reactors. Maybe in the timeline where the grind for the new vendor is reasonable (haha, this is Nexon) to max our inventories... otherwise, they are getting shit-canned.

[@f-locgaming7378]

Awesome video bro! I'm really liking you're ideas on the reactors and really hope the devs implement some of these ideas. I'll see you on the next one bro!!!

[@dread4353]

kinda dont agree with the arche type/subtypes argument. eliminating those extra rolls, while super frustrating, just eliminates the possibilities of them adding descendants with those sub types in the future. sure there is no use currently for an electric with a tech sub type but then they cant add one like that in the future. you're limiting the scope of possible sub types at that point. they should remove the main arche types from the sub properties though, chill reactor shouldnt get a fire boost.

[@DenneysYT]

i think i was explaining it wrong. thats not what im saying, im saying to only be able to roll singular boost if you have a singular reactor etc etc. you can have a electric tech reactor in the future but i just dont want to be able to roll singular boost on that tech reactor for example

[@jeremystone4139]

I've completely stopped farming Reactors unless the locations sync up with upgrade-materials. Every Reactor I own is just 'good enough'... Hopefully the Developers make some useful changes, because I'm not wasting my time anymore.

[@RobK-rl6sn]

I think if they minimize the RNG on top of RNG a little bit things would be much better. For example why is electric damage falling on a fire reactor? If they take out that chance of getting the wrong element. That will significantly increase the chance of getting a reactor that actually works for you. I've been running bunny since day one and I have hundreds of hours on this character. I still do not have my perfect purple or gold reactor. I farm for them every time there is a week General singular is around for electric. Either that or let us reroll one of the sub stats but even that could take forever depending on how limited the resources are to actually reroll these reactors in that scenario. I personally don't mind grinding for them but I would love to see the RNG limited a little bit by taking out some of the factors that do not and should not be rolling on these reactors. Why is electric rolling on a chill reactor. It's too much RNG on top of RNG and it makes getting that perfect reactor very hard for some people. I understand there are other people out there that have gotten extremely lucky multiple times but there are those of us out there that have not and have twice as much play time as you that have got lucky. There's always another side to the coin

[@redparadox2765]

it could work both ways. though i see having 3 differnt weapons on 1 reactor would be kind of busted. but saying that we have no idea what the cost is to reroll the weapon type off. i could be so high that u cant just spam change. if it is locked to 1 weapon type then someone like hailey could play kinda nice with shotgun and sniper. untill they drop the patch its in the air. nioh 2 had the best/good idea when i came to rerolling stats

[@Herbagamers]

It's weird to me that they would lock the implant behind ammo type. That would be infuriating ngl. I spent a lot of time at the beginning looking for the reroll on reactor because it just felt like that should be there naturally and I was super confused that it wasn't. Rerolling 1 stat does not sound crazy to me Also it's a new game by a Korean developer so I do see why things are ultra grindy and I do have hopes that they will adjust because the game had a huge reception in the west and they do seem to be listening and adjusting to what gamers like in this side of the globe similar to other games like dfo and such

[@JamescMichel]

I just don’t like the reactor system as a whole. I would love to see it change to be a dedicated skill upgrade where you grind for attachments separately. Example: The “Enzo” reactor is locked to him and you can change the main weapon to Legacy and change the stat increases to cooldown and range attachments that you grinded for.

[@kush2620]

ammo lock is good idea cuz if you can implant any weapon on reactor then the farming would become boring, they should keep it ammo lock type imo.

[@whitedobie]

I'm guessing, since this is an opinion based video, that the new reactor change will just be a combination approach. We currently have dozens or hundreds of reactors stuffed into our storage and inventories. They will now be able to be combined and you can switch back and forth to use them within one mounted reactor. Nothing else changes. Same gun on the reactor same bonuses when mounted. Nothing but a combination. Save space and is more efficient but not very helpful overall.

[@AlienVolta]

Reactors won't be locked into ammo types. This would make the change useless. I don't have facts supporting this, I just don't think your right about that part. I guess we'll see on the 10th.

[@SpOoNmAn365]

I don't believe this change is coming on the 10th. They mentioned another update late October, I think that's when it's arriving.

[@grumpyoldman6503]

wording is definitely ambigious, I agree. but we'll see soon enough either way.

[@K-EKG]

Cool take but those point will actually make the game so much easier and people will quit because "there's nothing to do". Just make a vendor that can reroll the reactors using a new resource or the resources already in the game( Ion Accelerator). Implement it so you can lock rolls just like the gun system. Burn out is typically for the try hards because they play the game non stop. If you make it too easier those same no lives will complain about having nothing to do in the game. How many people do you think actually have every viable weapon/descendant in the game? Most casuals use 2 guns(meta)/descendant at most. At the end of the day the game is hella new, if everything becomes dog shit easy why would anyone stay long term?

[@herbertcoxe3601]

Endgame gets here when it’s here, it’s unhealthy to think it’s happening before it does, plans change and people have way to much miss placed hope about this stuff, there’s no real endgame just yet so plan for it 100% but personally I’m not about to think about it showing up soon, it would already be in the game if they cared about it so clearly it’s not big to them, so far everything they’ve added into the game from the beginning outside of fixes and small gifts and I’m thankful for that but.. it’s all just been about money every update is how can we annoy people into paying, they aren’t actually adding anything that is top or truly fun for the players just more farming every time and over priced skins. Maybe I’m wrong I do think they want a good game but mostly for money over everything else. I still love the game tho.

[@GreenStreetSlim]

BIS gear is the chase for looters. IMO the current system is fine.

[@MrC8025]

Pretty sure mounting change will require same class. No way you'll be able to mount a sniper on a SMG class reactor. Who cares about reactors all that much anyway? Everything in the game dies fast. I don't care if I use a purple or an ult reactor. I feel like I one tap 90% of the game. If you really need to have a god roll and grind for hours on days that's your problem, not the game. I feel good gettiing a god roll every couple of weeks doing like 2-3 runs each day. This game is design the keep you chasing, your chances gets worst the more runs you do. Do a few runs, dumb drops, move on.

[@angelus877]

smh, I really dont understand youtubers doubling down on this change coming oct 10. Either you guys have insider info and cant share it and that's why you're confident, or this is a massive miscomprehension of english and misleading the audience.

[@fammud1192]

Been playing since launch, maxed everything I want to max, and I don't have a single good reactor for any of my builds. Tried going hard on reactor farming when there were particularly good farms and never had a decent drop. The only time I got the two stats I wanted it was one blue and one purple. I just don't bother any more, it's a hopeless waste of time. As for useless sub-stats, e.g. toxic on a fire reactor, 100% need to go. Even if it means dropping less reactors, I hate sorting through hundreds of trash reactors, and they're literally all trash.

[@DonOsterman]

Do you use the Filters?

[@fammud1192]

@@DonOsterman of course, but filters can only discard a fraction of reactors, the problem is more often mismatched and useless combinations, not just this stat = bad. You run out of space very quick with all the junk.

[@DonOsterman]

@@fammud1192 yeah storage space is a problem for sure. I thought 300 space in this the game I play but rn even at ma mastery rank, 134 storage space is so so so bad. We need more space to make farming more efficient

[@Strife1]

Two words INVENTORY SPACE

[@Wanderer1361]

Really great suggestions ❤ thank you

[@inwoodspakig8735]

New currency what I am going to do with my 827 million gold that I have

[@tec-zr7if]

Umm lepic is just not tech his boss build is

[@Baya86]

In my opinion, you're stressing yourselves out far too much trying to find the "perfect" reactor... Sometimes I'm still running around with purple reactors where only one value fits and I've still played through the whole game.

[@Night_Crawler_3]

I was there!

[@jay2k536]

The whole game needs a massive overhaul. Weapons and descendants BP's should be a chance instead of AM opening. I gave up opening AMs to specifically target something after opening 100 and not getting a 32%.

[@jay2k536]

If bosses were like gluttony and had a certain loot pool, like they have peace maker I would mind spending hours on it. The way everything is at the moment is so convulsed and feels like an actual chore. Add specific loot to specific things. Do away with AMs until they rework them. Use a key system where you can get keys drop from anything and everywhere. Make the keys universal so I can use them on any boss. I don't want 100 AM's for a chance of something. I'd rather 100 of something I can pick and choose what I do. Pyromaniac drops this and this, ok I'll use 30 keys and if no luck I'll use the rest elsewhere. I have so many AM's that I'm not gonna bother using again. The game is good but can be so much better in my opinion. Have keys drop at different levels like basic, ultra, ultra precision ultra megladon, ultra Jason Statham punching megladons in the face. Scap that crap void realm intercepts of the grey bleak landscape and just have random world events. Gluttony has turned up in Kingston, frost walker in sterile lands. Defeat them and collect whatever they drop. Have a way to turn them from normal to hard by certain challenge criteria met. More open world exploration and find little bits and pieces. This game can be massive with a push in the right direction of what people want. At the moment they are just trying to please people and keep a player base. In my honest opinion Nexon is trying to keep so many people happy but it's gonna hit a crossroad. They either want to keep a steady flow of players or people that will play for a week or so. Either way I hope this game lasts

[@grumpyoldman6503]

@@jay2k536 it's just a different game if you do it like a traditional MMO drop, where the RNG is baked into the boss loot table and it's a binary- drop/no drop situation. I do like the backstop of keys against RNG however. but as a counter-point farming something and getting absolutely nothing, especially when that something has a weekly loot lockout, also sucks a bug. source- me playing WoW for 2 decades.

[@tec-zr7if]

Here the thing this is a Korean game more Korean grind games are like this it's the problem is most of the world ate use to easy grinds like d4 poe d4 those gr8nds are cake walks

[@grumpyoldman6503]

ya well, you gotta play to the audeince if you want the $$$.

[@tec-zr7if]

@grumpyoldman6503 not really there other games made cash and those where mainly Korean base go look up some of there other games

[@cal7281]

I've already quit the grind for a reactor is just 😴 absolute snooze fest whole games boring really not any depth atall