We Only Have Narratives But No Proof of Balakot’s Success: Former HC to Pakistan

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4 ай бұрын

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In an interview to mark the launch of his recently published book ‘Anger Management: The Troubled Diplomatic Relationship between India and Pakistan’, which contains a critical chapter on the Pulwama terrorist attack and India’s retaliatory strike on Balakot, India’s High Commissioner to Pakistan at the time, Ajay Bisaria, has accepted that we only have narratives but no proof of the success of the Balakot strike. He added “you’ll perhaps never know for sure” of how successful the strike was.
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@gur0092
@gur0092 4 ай бұрын
In pakistan , army use political leaders for their political interests whereas in India political leaders use army for their political interests
@WaqarKhanHD
@WaqarKhanHD 4 ай бұрын
beautifully said...
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, infact indira Gandhi too won elections on victory of 1971 but later when her CM chair was threatened She Imposed Emergency around the Nation
@creativeminds5773
@creativeminds5773 4 ай бұрын
First time I'm agreed to an indian well said! PERFECT ANALOGY man!!
@hmmumm2164
@hmmumm2164 4 ай бұрын
That's better right
@naumanabid2861
@naumanabid2861 4 ай бұрын
Well put
@udayabose2357
@udayabose2357 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Bisaria is evidently a good diplomat. He keeps skirting the issue and going around the subject without ever getting to the point. So it would appear that diplomats don't just lie abroad for their country but even may lie at home for their country.
@vinayvashisht9270
@vinayvashisht9270 4 ай бұрын
Speaking truth has become dangerous in India. Karan is great facing this danger now a days.
@arunsalwan8558
@arunsalwan8558 4 ай бұрын
Wait, how is this the truth? I’m not gonna say one way or the other, but I have never seen people give proof of an attack. We generally just take their word. In fact, go on the Internet you’ll find conspiracy theories that say that America never killed Osama bin Laden people speak so emphatically.
@punnavanamsubbiah7434
@punnavanamsubbiah7434 4 ай бұрын
Rubbish empty words and nil diplomacy only guarding poor narrative of BJP RSS government.
@rogerthatd
@rogerthatd 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@oneworldoneworld7013
@oneworldoneworld7013 4 ай бұрын
Really...where is the threat?
@a.bharti5492
@a.bharti5492 4 ай бұрын
True. I just wish Karan does not face what Ravish faced! Thank you Wire team (I owe you for all Karan gets for us) !
@robin4uonutube
@robin4uonutube 4 ай бұрын
What an embarrassingly spineless IFS officer! Ashamed of such cowardice and stoogery of the Govt...😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@ArijitGhosh-ib1ey
@ArijitGhosh-ib1ey 4 ай бұрын
Karan had come with an agenda. The agenda is exactly what Pakistani position is. He tried to argue that (1) Indian government was responsible for Pulwama, not the Pakistani terrorists, (2) questioned the effectiveness of Balakot strike, (3) claimed that Pakistan might not have panicked and it was India that might have panicked during captivity of Abhinandan. These were answered by Ajay Bisaria very succinctly when he stated that there might have been five variables that could have influenced the course of events and the variables he identified as crucial was based on his assessment and his experience. Mr Thapar tried to focus on variables that would give credit to other entities such as Pakistan/ USA/ others and not to the Indian government or its agencies. In absence of concrete evidences ( or authority to share such evidences) it becomes a "I think vs you think" conversation and to that extent this interview was ineffective.
@ranjitaujla3507
@ranjitaujla3507 4 ай бұрын
When politicians tell blatant lies then suspicion always arise
@nobudget2547
@nobudget2547 4 ай бұрын
@@ranjitaujla3507 and biased planted journalists , who are paid by god knows who ?
@mathaithomas2816
@mathaithomas2816 4 ай бұрын
Karan conducted a great interview. Ajay Bisaria whose bread and butter comes from the Indian government -followed the rule not to -toe a line different from the propaganda stand of the government of the day.
@pamtam1
@pamtam1 4 ай бұрын
@@ArijitGhosh-ib1ey😂Agenda?? What do you expect out of an interviewer? To not ask the most basic unresolved questions yet?😂 To swallow hook, line and sinker a stupid and pathetic defense by a foreign service officer no less than an ambassador to Pakistan at the very moment when these events took place??
@rizwanhussain645
@rizwanhussain645 4 ай бұрын
How on Earth did Mr Bisaria manage to become HC to Pakistan 🇵🇰, he is the quintessential WhatsApp uni grad.
@sarasidra
@sarasidra 4 ай бұрын
I am listening to Karan for the first time. He is so logical and rational and very clear about what he wants to know about the issue without ambiguity. We do have a few journalists like him on Pakistani side too who question their own authorities rather than accept whatever illogical lies they are told.
@strangergi3176
@strangergi3176 4 ай бұрын
È forte lui
@camelkarma
@camelkarma 4 ай бұрын
Kaunsi duniya se hai 😂. Karan does not like BJP.
@rakeshchaudhary5190
@rakeshchaudhary5190 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Bisaria wants to say everything without saying anything nonsense he is trying to blow hot and cold at the same time.
@zeeshanahmed8595
@zeeshanahmed8595 4 ай бұрын
You are great Sir!!! Keep on showing the truth ... We are with you...
@tejesheconomics4072
@tejesheconomics4072 4 ай бұрын
Except the Islamic radicalism……I request you to go to Pakistan which your ancestors demanded (Present day Pakistanis never demanded Pakistan it is actually demanded by UP BIHAR Gujarati RAJASTHAN BENGALI Muslims …) it is mistake by Gandhi to let traitor to stay back……but we have seen real face of Indian Muslims because when the time came they always stood with their Pakistani Muslim Ummah they their fellow countrymen
@nobudget2547
@nobudget2547 4 ай бұрын
You will also deny oct 7 .🤡
@mmd2156
@mmd2156 4 ай бұрын
how have you seen this? because as a Pakistani feel for the Indian Muslims who constantly have to show their patriotism on demand by any Hindu walking past. seriously bro show some respect for your fellow countrymen. why don't the Hindus show their patriotism by standing their fellow Muslim countrymen ? with this constant questioning of their loyalty you will eventually create the next generation of Indians who will start actually believe you and question their own loyalties. And that is not where you want to be, seriously mate India is doing well don't derail it with your own hands by brewing this hatred in your society!! if not there's plenty of space next to us on the "failed states bench" . And as a neighbour we would always welcome India to join us@@tejesheconomics4072
@Amitab74
@Amitab74 4 ай бұрын
Total waste of time listening to the interviewee’s replies! Mr Thapar, as always, is brilliant. Why was the book written at all? No substance.
@shivfloyd
@shivfloyd 4 ай бұрын
Why no substance? Cause he's not giving you the narrative you want
@maxkak2149
@maxkak2149 4 ай бұрын
This interview saved me some bucks and more importantly my time to spend on this waste of the book. Thanks thaper.
@KhalidKhan-lz3er
@KhalidKhan-lz3er 4 ай бұрын
Rare to see such great independent journalism im India. Huge respect for Karan Tapar ❤
@rakeshchaudhary5190
@rakeshchaudhary5190 4 ай бұрын
Bisaria is a diplomat we can see how shrewd and futile attempts to protect the government" 's failure or the government's wilful and implicit permission to this attack he is trying to defend.
@samrat.Biswas
@samrat.Biswas 4 ай бұрын
which attack?
@bw8026
@bw8026 4 ай бұрын
In fact IFS officer didn't fall in the trap of Karan who repeatedly tries to extract something what he wants to hear from the interviewee. It takes courage to say what one firmly believes in in front of a seasoned interviewer who will not counter question when he gets answers of his choice 😂
@hgmithra2144
@hgmithra2144 4 ай бұрын
Karan, this gentleman is clearly not disclosing the truth but trying to dodge your straight questions. It’s obvious he is playing to his masters gallery….
@a.bharti5492
@a.bharti5492 4 ай бұрын
ALL his replies were IN NEGATIVE (with spin)!
@sajadxargar3391
@sajadxargar3391 4 ай бұрын
It should become clear to modi regime that this man wants either a parliament berth or chairmanship of any commission. He could not explain the violation of the geneva convention by Pakistan.
@OwaisHanif-rr9mq
@OwaisHanif-rr9mq 4 ай бұрын
HC is neither here nor there, regretting for writing the book, mr karan should have ended the interview by saying "aakhir kehna kya chahte ho".
@maxkak2149
@maxkak2149 4 ай бұрын
He said him implicitly that sentence but he repeated chaturs Rant...
@user-ke1wl1jk6i
@user-ke1wl1jk6i 4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@sureshkudipudi8762
@sureshkudipudi8762 4 ай бұрын
Great job once again Kiran! No need to read the book. The interview has sufficiently exposed the author. With all the command over the language, the interviewee couldn’t cover himself up.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
classical quote by a wise man never judge a book by its Cover....
@RajbirBhattacharjee
@RajbirBhattacharjee 4 ай бұрын
@@Kang.31 yea, true, but the quote never said never judge a book by the interview of the author about the book :D
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
@@RajbirBhattacharjee That's a metaphor I think !! Right ?? Just 30 minutes of interview can give u so much understanding that u start to make decisions on that... Wow... Then U should be member of UPSC.. Bureaucrats are Apolitical surely they don't understand or to speak politically which karan thapar was trying to make political instead of focusing on diplomacy of the topic. . If karan wants political answer then why isn't he interrogating or interviewing Security team like Retd. Army Generals Lt. Gen Tiny dhillon who was then GoC chinar Corps Kashmir or NIA officials or Current National security advisors Ajit doval...
@MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA
@MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA 4 ай бұрын
@@RajbirBhattacharjee Lol, have u Even watched the full interview ?? He was asking Political & Security Questions to a Diplomatic Bureaucrat instead of asking it to Security team official like Indian Army generals or politicians ...... Bureaucrats & Armed forces officers are never good at political questions Becoz it does not come under their Area of influence or expertise...
@fredrickdemello2260
@fredrickdemello2260 4 ай бұрын
​@@MUMBAIKAR_ADITYAit's "diplomat" saying "diplomatic bureaucrat" is not only redundant but also non sensical
@sadiqmalik869
@sadiqmalik869 4 ай бұрын
The night it happened I was at home which is 15 km from the site, we rushed to the site in the morning the only casualty we saw was a crow and 3 trees were damaged, if 1 or 2 people would have killed there would have been big " janaza" and big public reaction, there was some anger why someone came in to our air space
@warisaliraja916
@warisaliraja916 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly what we have said.. Indian Air force came into our Air space drop there Payload and run off. Entire nation media and some western media went to on the location where Indian Air forces drops it's Payload there were few trees damage. Truth can not be hidden. Thank you for showing this interview to the world. We have responded on the 2nd day and entire world saw that. Regards Gentlemans from Pakistan. 🙏
@AbdulSattar-wd1zf
@AbdulSattar-wd1zf 4 ай бұрын
And shameless people are making movie on their fake bravery.
@muneebzia7596
@muneebzia7596 4 ай бұрын
IAF did friendly firing, shooting their own helicopter. 😅😅. They were in too much panic on that day when Pak hit them back....
@user-dl9kz1xb7n
@user-dl9kz1xb7n 4 ай бұрын
I am a big fan of Mr Karan Thapar Sir ❤️
@bhaskarsaxena6213
@bhaskarsaxena6213 4 ай бұрын
He is a bureaucrat. Right? Talking like typical bureaucrat. Karan hats off to you to have put your whole hand in his mouth. But to no avail
@Ziaullah673
@Ziaullah673 4 ай бұрын
How this guy became a diplomat with such stupid understanding of things?Karan was brilliant as always.
@Dudsky
@Dudsky 4 ай бұрын
Yaa dude tujhe lena chahiye tha inhe ek bar apni degrees enumerate krke muh bnd krwade in HATERS ka
@Rkhardori
@Rkhardori 4 ай бұрын
Seriously?
@kalkatta2871
@kalkatta2871 4 ай бұрын
These High Commissioners and Ambassadors are always Political Appointees. They are not career diplomats. So what do you expect.? Of course they will kiss their political patron's behind. What is so surprising about that.
@Dudsky
@Dudsky 4 ай бұрын
@@Rkhardori arrey yar who are u to question Mr ziaullah673 Bhai ne boldiya to boldiya abb tumko evidence bhi dena pdega kya baat ka ?
@Rkhardori
@Rkhardori 4 ай бұрын
@@Dudsky Yes most certainly
@amritanshsinha
@amritanshsinha 4 ай бұрын
Goodness, Karan, you roasted him harder than a marshmallow at a bonfire!
@jitulvslife03
@jitulvslife03 4 ай бұрын
Have you ever eaten those marshmallows?
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
Lol, if This is roasting 😂 then U should listen to the interviews of Dr. S jaishankar Especially when it comes to western journalists..
@abhayjay8391
@abhayjay8391 4 ай бұрын
Lol are you sure he is roasting 😅. He is a Pak sympathizer, everybody knows that. So he is just asking questions on their behalf
@malikmustafa1373
@malikmustafa1373 4 ай бұрын
​@@abhayjay8391if you ponder and think then you will know that he is a realistic man..
@donttellmejustlisten4598
@donttellmejustlisten4598 4 ай бұрын
You should try ameer ul oud fragrance it smells like roasted marshmallows on bonfire 😂😂
@AliAsghar-co7xt
@AliAsghar-co7xt 4 ай бұрын
In the end there is no proof of anything that Mr Bisaria has said in the book. Its just his assessment. In short its just his view.
@devajyotisharma3131
@devajyotisharma3131 4 ай бұрын
I love how Karan is so relentless when seeking out the truth
@a.bharti5492
@a.bharti5492 4 ай бұрын
Indeed, but, I think, this is the MOST inept guest Karan interviewed! ALL his replies WERE IN NEGATIVE (haywired)!
@anilsia1962
@anilsia1962 4 ай бұрын
His agenda is only one. Malign BJP.
@muhammadadnan9489
@muhammadadnan9489 4 ай бұрын
I’m surprised, this guy was an ambassador with that mentality, then I realised he lives in India and he has to face consequences if he says anything about modi’s government or he must be looking for a lucrative job???
@usmannaseerfm
@usmannaseerfm 4 ай бұрын
Salute to Karan for an unbiased professional interview!!
@mizzoumadras
@mizzoumadras 4 ай бұрын
Ajay Bisaria... here's a person who's released something hoping the Supreme emperor will notice and throw him some bone to chew. If the whole book is anything like what he's expresses in this interview, then it's all B.S and can be skipped. He says he's given evidence when in fact he's probably quoted some fringe articles in newspapers. It's neither here nor there. Thank you Mr Thapar for throwing light on this guy.
@zaffazad4040
@zaffazad4040 4 ай бұрын
A good interview, Mr. Thapar like always. I am amazed at how blatantly Mr. Bisaria can dodge reality and your logical questions. The author must check the facts; you only report or write under your name, especially as a diplomatic official, which Mr. Bisaria still needs to do in his book. I am shocked to know the type of training and grooming of the Indian diplomates who have no integrity at all to follow the universal protocols of being honest and truthful professionals. Mr. Bisaria's expression and what the USA and Canadians have raised with the Government of India shows the lapses in the Indian diplomates training, calibre, ethics and Delhi's inability to select, train and send its diplomatic core professionals overseas in the essential places like in the USA, Canada and the arch-rival Pakistan. India can save itself from the embarrassment of Balakot and assassination plots in foreign capitals by following a foreign policy it deserves to have as a five thousand-year-old civilization and the most populous country in the world, 1400 million people.
@vyomchauhan2931
@vyomchauhan2931 4 ай бұрын
At least Iran isn't Bombing us
@zaffazad4040
@zaffazad4040 4 ай бұрын
@@vyomchauhan2931 Is it a joke? Did you see the Pakistani's response to Iran and post-Balakot to India?
@hj2711
@hj2711 4 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@zaffazad4040yeah we did. Their response was mediocre at best and predictable at worst, it means they will fire some missiles when someone launch attack in their terrorist hub. Nothing else they can do. Jayshankar is the best diplomat India have tell me better then him. It was not embarrassment.
@zaffazad4040
@zaffazad4040 4 ай бұрын
​@@hj2711 I have a different opinion about Mr. Jaishankar and his handling of Foreign Affairs. No Communique after the G20 in India is just a recent example. India does not have a very good reputation outside India in terms of proxies and destabilizing activities from Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Nepal to Pakistan. India R&AW have been sponsoring anti-state actors in all these countries, the recent US and Canadian démarche in connection to plotting and executing plots to kill their citizens, the EU Info Lab findings, and many more Indian misadventures I cannot name here. The 2016 so-called; " Surgical Strike" was a shame for a country like India, and I am sure you must also be feeling some shame about your Ministry of External Affairs, Ministry of Internal Affairs and South Block's embarrassing and self-defeating narrative based on lies. Introspection is the right way of forwarding for the Indian citizens, who have the power to rein in Mr Modi and his incompetent team members, like Mr. Jaishankar, Mr Ajit Doval, Mr Rajnath Singh and Mr Amit Shah. India has a vibrant tradition of producing some of the finest statesmen, like Dr. AmbedKer, Dr. Singh, Mr. Narsima Rao, Mr. Wajpiee, Dr. Azad and many more; Dr. Tharoor is one more good example in your current parliament.
@MegaApurv007
@MegaApurv007 4 ай бұрын
the dumbest comment in the entire comment section
@alokpandey9910
@alokpandey9910 4 ай бұрын
That was 'furzical' strike,rather than surgical strike!
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's why Pakistan didn't let Media houses to visit balakot for 45 days.....
@ishtiaqueahmed8450
@ishtiaqueahmed8450 4 ай бұрын
​@@Kang.31... Trees were killed in balakot, that's all, get out of the extreme hindutva narrative, not good for our country
@sabtaingopinath9652
@sabtaingopinath9652 4 ай бұрын
​@@Kang.31😂😂😂yes because Pakistan phoned you Nd told you directly.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
@@sabtaingopinath9652 Yeah, infact their one Of the MP's in Pakistani parliament also said so, Pakistan army chief's legs were shaking & head with full of sweat...
@sabtaingopinath9652
@sabtaingopinath9652 4 ай бұрын
@@Kang.31 Yes that's why BBC reporters were at scene reporting by 9am the next after the strikes. You know Google isn't obsolete yet. 😉
@Pranavkumar-xn5hs
@Pranavkumar-xn5hs 4 ай бұрын
The virtue of truthfulness can be seen in epics like entire ramayana and Mahabharata. But, it is the one that is missing in the incumbent government but uses these epics for there own greed. They will use names of Gandhi, Ambedkar, Rama, Krishna but never follow them
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
When congress started following ambedkar ?? Infact it was V.P singh who broked out of Congress & gave ambedkar bharat ratna posthumously... & Congress Ideology of Non-violence of Gandhi is based on Violence.... Infact after assassination of Gandhi & indira gandhi Nearly 10000 brahmins in Maharashtra 1948 & 5000 Sikhs were massacred in Delhi 1984... Is it gandhi ideology of non-violence ??
@atulgarg6841
@atulgarg6841 4 ай бұрын
As citizens of India, we should question the causes of any failure, be it on part of any government. There is no need to protect or expose only truth.
@user-vd2uc5ro6f
@user-vd2uc5ro6f 4 ай бұрын
Lucked out? Did the terrorist luck out by getting access to protocol? Did he luck out he got access to uncommon explosives? Did he luck out in the Home Ministry denying aircraft transport? Did he luck out the soldiers weren't in an armored vehicle. The interviewee is slimy and slippery and is covering up incompetence by Modis govt.
@superjrao7161
@superjrao7161 4 ай бұрын
Only solace the guest had was the advertisement for his book in last 20 seconds
@sukhparhar
@sukhparhar 4 ай бұрын
How nice it would have been if this Gentleman had done his duty by the nation and given this statement of fact in the year 2019 to help set the public debate in the correct perspective. It would have vindicated people like us who analysed that Balakote was a photo op for General Elections. 149 Crore Indians were taken for a ride on this lie. These clarifications now are of little use as modi cohorts have moved on to Op Rama.
@clooneyspa4899
@clooneyspa4899 4 ай бұрын
The ambassador stammers his way through the entire interview. It is proof enough.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
& ur English .... Is enough proof of ur intellectuals
@shivfloyd
@shivfloyd 4 ай бұрын
Lol you don't even know the meaning of stammering.. He was in fact very smooth
@shubhadeepdas531
@shubhadeepdas531 4 ай бұрын
One can understand the author's consternation...he doesn't want a political jhamela..but Karan Thapar is relentless in seeking the truth..salutes to you sir who feared no one on either side...
@eudee21
@eudee21 4 ай бұрын
Mr Bisaria is simple beating around the bush. He fumbled so many times like a school boy. This is the state of Indian diplomats . No wonder India has such a dismal foreign relations record. I am very much disappointed with Mr Bisaria's answer
@shivfloyd
@shivfloyd 4 ай бұрын
He gave sensible answers
@irfanulhaq3
@irfanulhaq3 4 ай бұрын
The billion dollar question about balakot strike no one ever asked is that when we have BVRM missiles then what was the need to go beyond enemy line risking our aircrafts
@sridharoleti8806
@sridharoleti8806 4 ай бұрын
There is no point in getting a cowardly bureaucrat who is looking to sell his book. He obviously knows more but is scared of facing the wrath of the Government. All he keeps saying is no comment on important matters
@notorious25796
@notorious25796 4 ай бұрын
Ajay Bisaria had not even know the tactical level of understanding about the issue.... He did a good try to spread a false propaganda , to help PM Modi for election campaign as always.... But truth always revail....
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
Diplomat Ajay bisaria very well explained the Issue objectively... Tactical Response of Pulwama was balakot air strike but Strategic & surgical response was Abrogation of Article 370.... India always wanted Its Foreign policy towards Pakistan to be de-hypheanted with kashmir.... But it was Pakistan who wanted its india policy kashmir centric....
@sunsun2822
@sunsun2822 4 ай бұрын
Take your finger out of your ear buddy. Abrgn of 370 has bought Kashmir at the centre of regional stability. Doklam came right after it...n China now holds extremely critical strategic points in Ladakh, such as Daulat bagh Oldie connecting Aksai Chin wt other side of Kashmir.
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
@@sunsun2822 Lol, then u should Attend Chanakya dialogues of The veteran of the Indian Armed Forces on strategic issues regarding india's National Interests... Especially From indian Navy & indian Army Who understands geography & Geopolitics of The Indian Ocean Region... Abrogation of Article 370 has no impact chinese incursion of ladakh & As far as i know Indian armed forces still owns majority of Strategic points in the Region.. Worst thing about the Chinese is Geography . They don't have large coastline to Dominate the region.. That's why they want us to keep us Busy & utilise our resources at the Northern Front without escalating the tensions on border issues... & Take Away focus on Large Coastline in the Region especially the QUAD... That's classical Chinese game of tactics by the Way of Deception as Sun Tzu Said,'March towards west strike towards the East....
@sabtaingopinath9652
@sabtaingopinath9652 4 ай бұрын
Tactically Pakistan whooped your butt by capturing Abhinandhan... Strategically Pakistan has without spending a dollar internationalized the kashmir issue and tied it to modi g and his human rights record 😊
@Kang.31
@Kang.31 4 ай бұрын
@@sabtaingopinath9652 Pakistan carried out that strikes but what objectives did it achieved ?? Rather than Falling to prey under international pressure...... & Returned the pilot without any negotiations of release of pro-pakistan Kashmiri leaders into Pakistan.... Infact later Pakistan Army chief Bajwa gave Intelligence of Another attack to indian R&AW agency during back channel in London talks in month of june/july ..... & Later on using so called Mujahideen against india became high cost option rather than using it for lost cost weapon using for Table talks with india.... & Bring india for negotiations on administrative affairs of J&k & According to United nations data Level of violence & deaths of Innocent civilians in Kashmir has reduced by 95 % ... That's modi ji human rights record for u...
@Merloc909
@Merloc909 4 ай бұрын
@@sabtaingopinath9652 🤣🤣🤣 so was it tactical thinking or strategic thinking that made them openly shake in their boots in their own parliament and recommend immediate return of the officer? And what internationalization are you talking about? Not a single country is bothered. Heck the middle east countries are openly coming and investing in Kasmir! LOL you are soo disconnected from reality that it is actually funny!
@ashokpradhan9094
@ashokpradhan9094 4 ай бұрын
Mr Karan you are incredible
@solemo69
@solemo69 4 ай бұрын
Karan Thapar along with Shekhar Gupta and Pravin Sawhney are very few honest Indians journalist who are not blinded by their hate towards Pakistan. Always pleasure to listen to them.
@babarkhattak8555
@babarkhattak8555 4 ай бұрын
Basariya;s narrative has been blown into pieces by Karan.......Basaria had no idea that Karan would screw him with quotes from Pompeo's memoirs. Basria had no idea that Karan would have read Pompeo's work. Basaria's effort to take credit for himself and for the Modi Govt on account of "effective diplomacy" in the wake of Balakot has been blown apart by Karan........
@satinreena
@satinreena 4 ай бұрын
Seems BJP's counter to Governor Satyapal Malik ji.
@Sajjadali-br6im
@Sajjadali-br6im 4 ай бұрын
look like he didn't wrote a book, he just informed us that the separatists was lucky/successful by publishing book.
@vijayarajan3276
@vijayarajan3276 4 ай бұрын
Mr. Karan should bring in Mr. Pravin Sawhney for this topic. The guest sort glanced through the specifics due to his background.
@niksaraf3055
@niksaraf3055 4 ай бұрын
we also want to know how arnab goswami knew the count of terorrist got killed before strike... and our Army is absolutely invincible
@protegonist
@protegonist 4 ай бұрын
When we have these type of diplomats. Peace is out of question. And I am talking about both sides. Much respect for Karan for being truthful.
@navdeepkumar5652
@navdeepkumar5652 4 ай бұрын
Mr. KT, it is worthless to interview such shrewd ex IFS officer, who at last seems to be expecting more from Indian administration for his post retirement tenure. In fact he was diplomat of a Govt, which is ideological ridiculous and right, and he is also not different.
@s.faisal7652
@s.faisal7652 4 ай бұрын
Ajay has been mincing words on the actuality of damage in Balakot strikes. Also, he spoke about Geneva convention but didn't prove his point. Karan Thapar's questions made it crystal clear.
@abdullahismail6274
@abdullahismail6274 4 ай бұрын
Actually HC wants to say "Yr blunder ho gya book me ab chor de meri jaan"
@Baidwan8o8
@Baidwan8o8 4 ай бұрын
Loved it, Karan. I’m sure 15 minutes into this interview, Bisaria’s knees went knocking 😂 Bisaria clearly displays he is nothing but Modi’s mouthpiece. Karan, you’ve meticulously picked Bisaria apart.
@asimrashid7416
@asimrashid7416 4 ай бұрын
Well said. After all, he's govt servant and has to/had to stretch a narrative from Indian govt that was absurd and full of lies at best. And of course Mr. Bisaria understandably, being a govt servant, swayed away from the fact that this folly of surgical strike was used by BJP to garner support for the current regime to win the elections.
@AM-nd4gg
@AM-nd4gg 4 ай бұрын
He will regret this interview for life.... dosti bani rahe ;)
@mohammedzakaria2409
@mohammedzakaria2409 4 ай бұрын
The Debaters Mr.Karan Thapar & Mr. Ajay Basaria former Commissioner to Pakistan gave their respective questions and answers which apoear to be quite interesting
@ashrafjehangirqazi1497
@ashrafjehangirqazi1497 4 ай бұрын
I have a lot of regard for Bisaria, but here he is so careful and evasive that he becomes uninteresting. As for reports that casualties in Pulwama could not have been substantial as they would sooner or later have been reported by social media, the same was true of India's claim that around three hundred Pakistani "terrorists" were killed. What happened to their funerals which similarly could not have been kept secret for long if at all? Needless to say the first casualty of war is the truth. I was of course no longer in the foreign service.
@ramraghuwanshi2562
@ramraghuwanshi2562 4 ай бұрын
a nation which can keep death of its solders(kargil) hidden can definetly keep terrorist death in some far away jungle hidden
@thor3932
@thor3932 4 ай бұрын
Karan Thapar knows the book more than the author
@gurusharan4705
@gurusharan4705 4 ай бұрын
Diplomats never admit their own faults rather blame the other side. Moreover, he has to sell his book in India and remain in India.
@amania9254
@amania9254 4 ай бұрын
Just selling his book, either doesn't knows it, or afraid to talk about it. Thanks to Karan for his brilliant interviews 👏 👌
@khurrammustaqeem8194
@khurrammustaqeem8194 4 ай бұрын
Karan sb you made him come to the truth 👌
@funtanu
@funtanu 4 ай бұрын
Apparently he wrote a book for the majority of today's India. He wants to sell his book anyways, come on that isn't unfair. I don't blame him for hiding the truth, he is just going with the flow. See he got his book published. Not like the Ex army chief's book which has gone to a cold file by now.
@safarcl
@safarcl 4 ай бұрын
@23 minutes: fanaticism whether it is religious, nationalistic or racial, makes the man unrealistic, unjust and less factual! This is true here also... Mr A. Bisaria claims baselessly about POW and Geneva convention vis-à-vis Mr Abhinanthan!?! What a shame for a diplomat of his stature!
@drshokatalisaiyed4733
@drshokatalisaiyed4733 4 ай бұрын
Awards are given to the HMV (his master voice) people in the democracies nation of the world..!!!???
@rafialam.
@rafialam. 3 ай бұрын
Finally found an indian who likes to speak and accept the truth like a man.....
@AnindyaGhosh
@AnindyaGhosh 4 ай бұрын
At that point in time (in 2019) Modi had nothing to show in terms of progress. None of the election promises delivered. The attack on the jawans happened and it was a blessing in disguise for Modi/BJparty. I always believed that something was off. This time in 2024 I am worried th BJP needa another Godhra / Gujrat riots / Pulwama /Balakot
@jattworld1984
@jattworld1984 4 ай бұрын
This time Modi has Ram Mandir in place, will easily slide through the election and win comfortably, so jawans might be spared this time but u never know he may still sacrifice them just to be sure 👍
@romit006
@romit006 4 ай бұрын
Ram mandir g20 and 370 is enough
@ilyashussain4631
@ilyashussain4631 4 ай бұрын
Got him on Geneva Convention!
@RakeshKumar-ks9do
@RakeshKumar-ks9do 4 ай бұрын
It was wastage of time listening to high commissioner, he is spineless guy.
@rajangeorge729
@rajangeorge729 4 ай бұрын
All responses were as diplomatic as possible to ensure his personal safety from the Govt.
@RealStoriesOfBharat
@RealStoriesOfBharat 4 ай бұрын
The kind of videos really give a good nursery to audience who are against Bharat. wish these can be tacked.
@rahulkumarpaswan9487
@rahulkumarpaswan9487 4 ай бұрын
This man karan thappar seen few days with Chinese personal and discussing how to destroy current govt.
@pawan.21
@pawan.21 4 ай бұрын
Karan not only conducts interviews but also grills and toasts guests on his show, delving into the depths of their thoughts, views, and opinions. 😀
@Arihant997
@Arihant997 4 ай бұрын
I have issue with the way Karan Thapar rubs his interviewers the wring way..but here he seems yo have got the equation right.well prepared and well presented without any aggression.. Great points on Phulwama accountability ..Archives ..we in India haven't opened for many decades ..like China war Henderson report Kargil accountability and so on..Points on Geneva Connvention were spot on.. Credit for diplomatic success in this Abhinandan episode very much debatable !
@ravimenon8260
@ravimenon8260 4 ай бұрын
Bisaria will never write a book in his life. Karan you did a great questioning and made Bisaria look totally spineless where he had no answers and keep saying ah uh ah uh. Shame on this guy. I don’t understand how such people get sleep in night.
@tjjohn9785
@tjjohn9785 4 ай бұрын
A Diplomat talk. Takes a lot of practice and requires special talent in choice of words and framing a sentence. Mr. Bisaria is a master at it like many others.
@goodchannel7416
@goodchannel7416 4 ай бұрын
Ask them where is Masood azar… and those 30 terrorists??? Doud ibrahim?
@sumanniv
@sumanniv 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mr Thapar, for all the excellent journalism you bring to us. Would you consider a longish dialogue with Amb Vijay Gokhale soon?
@ruminderrandhawa8501
@ruminderrandhawa8501 4 ай бұрын
Ambassador is not giving St answers though he maybe knowing everything
@dhirendrad6128
@dhirendrad6128 4 ай бұрын
Karan is the last journalist of the kind that can grill any big authority without fear. He comes fully prepared. A generation of pygmy Stooges will rule after him.
@GoldmanSachs7
@GoldmanSachs7 4 ай бұрын
Karan I’ve been listening to your interviews for the four to five years even those that have do with India’s internal politics of which know very little but yet one would listen because your quest are unremitting and honest to the extent that Modi started crying half way through the interview, however, this character is a mealy mouthed baboo who is perhaps scared and/or angling for a post retirement sinecure in the government… I am wondering why did he even write a book in the first place? Every question that you ask him reading from his darn book, he either completely refutes it or simply says he meant something else and that something else he can’t explain to save his life. On the Balakot strike where it is now common knowledge that India crossed over in the dead of the night and completely either missed the target or was nervously only recording the fact for the international consumption that they did cross over and decimated the target, an utter comedic fib, because the coordinates the IAF cited were provided to the international journalist on the GPS who went there to see the damage if any for themselves. The next day the PAF responded in broad day light and rammed forward brigade head quarter and then fired a controlled missile at a target where the then Indian Army Chief was busy in a meeting, the pilot turned the missile at the last moment towards an ammo dump instead, just to make a point that it’s not difficult to send a chilling response and then they shoot down two of IAF’s fighters including that of Abhinandan Varthaman. Now this high commissioner is gleaning all those statements that are music to the Indian government’s ears but paradoxically dismisses other even from the official sources. Come on karan, it’s a fair and square dominance of the PAF and a more than a bloody nose for India and its aspiration of conducting surgical strike inside Pakistan…just see how Midi used that botched up strike in the elections but never dared to toy with the idea of a surgical strike. Karan this man didn’t deserve a seat at least at your interview table and we wish him good luck with his penchant for fiction writing but certainly not material for a Karan Thapar interview. Best
@dylanthomas7443
@dylanthomas7443 4 ай бұрын
A clear example of an EX-official who is scared of the Modi regime. OR an ardent BJP supporter!!
@cutelittlebabygogo4177
@cutelittlebabygogo4177 4 ай бұрын
Ajay Bisaria was expected to show some moral courage to call spade a spade but somehow despite all his efforts he couldn't hide his drama of pleasing Indian high ups -perhaps he's eyeing something lucrative as post retirement benefit
@user-hf4qm2ym4w
@user-hf4qm2ym4w 4 ай бұрын
Mr Karan Hats off to your free thinking for the truth. I wish India were free!! Only the truth shall free India. And the whole region. India's facing dire times as far as truth is concerned. It will have ugly consequences for the region, in general, but most of all for the Indians. I wish and pray that the truth prevails.
@dhirendrad6128
@dhirendrad6128 4 ай бұрын
Diplomat is not ready to hang his boots. He needs post retirement offer from government
@shikharsriv3553
@shikharsriv3553 4 ай бұрын
Is this man ever saying or interviewing someone without agenda of election in his mind? Journalism is about knowing things or only knowing things for or against a party?
@superjrao7161
@superjrao7161 4 ай бұрын
Whatever is suitable to me I will take …. I think that is my prerogative… when it came to other western media he cleverly used the word “ Conspiracy Theories “ good questioning
@user-wd2fw3io1q
@user-wd2fw3io1q 4 ай бұрын
All the questions raised by you Karan ji during the interview with Mr. Basaria were very logical and sound. But it was quite evident from Mr. Basaria narrative that despite knowing all the truth he is reluctant to speak out the truth, Pakistani authorities had taken a number of foreign correspondents to the site which India claimed to be a terrorist hide out or headquarters as per the Indian narrative of course and which India successfully blown out with heavy number of causalities. As a matter of fact, all the foreign correspondents witnessed that there were no signs of any rubble of a demolished building except a deep crater in the ground, What the Indian pilots did was, they dropped their pay loads randomly in sheer panic and fled away. As far as the story of Indian deployment of missiles near the Pakistani border when Indian Wing Commander Abhi Nandan was captured by Pakistan. It is nothing more than a face-saving stunt by Modi Ji, in order to cheer up the Indian public and boost their moral. PM Imran Khan along with the defense authorities of Pakistan had already decided to return the Captive as per Geneva convention and not further escalate the existing tension. Pakistan only proofed its capabilities to thwart any Indian provocations or ill intentions. against the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Pakistan. Pakistan and its citizens very well remember all the good will and Favours of India during the 1971's Pakistan's political crisis. Pakistani nation is ever ready to safeguard their country's sovereignty by all the possible means and manners. India along with rest of the world very well knows that Pakistan in no way behind India in nuclear technology. Wisdom says that both the countries should respect each other's territorial integrity and sovereignty and settle all the issues through a meaningful dialogue.
@ninadbhave5133
@ninadbhave5133 4 ай бұрын
Please re-read your own last sentence. Training and sending terrorists across the border isn't "respecting each other's territorial integrity" dear sir!
@user-wd2fw3io1q
@user-wd2fw3io1q 4 ай бұрын
Yes, Sir, fully agrees with you neither in Kashmir nor in Baluchistan. But please differentiate between Kashmir and Baluchistan. Kashmir's issue is in the UN to which Premier Nehru had promised to arrange for a plebesite.That plebiscite is still awaited! Whereas Baluchistan's issue is not in the UN agenda. Infiltrations into Kashmir if it is so purely based on the continued denial of the will of the Kashmiris. Kashmir is under a military siege since decades. Therefore, referring as terrorists to the freedom fighters is a very old phenomenon. Nothing is new about it. American freedom fighters were referred terrorists by the British. Similarly Indian freedom fighters were subjected to extreme brutalities and called terrorists by the British. Same is true for South Africans. Annexation of Kashmir into India by force would never bring peace to that area. Kashmir is not Junagadh, Hyderabad Deccan or Goa. Kashmir's reality is very different. It should be realized and addressed to the satisfaction of all the Kashmiris. Thís would bring a lasting peace for both India and Pakistan.@@ninadbhave5133
@abdulrahamanmunna
@abdulrahamanmunna 4 ай бұрын
I always remember, dosti bani rahay, modiji ran away, i always pray long live mr, karan thappar
@subbu2009
@subbu2009 4 ай бұрын
Oh my God.... Karan tried all his might in every way to put his word "Modi is behind Pulwana attack to gain political mileage" ... Ajay Bisaria is good and know his trap and did not fall for his traps... very interesting 👌 every question is biased and was expecting a desired answer which he did not get 😉
@dhirendrad6128
@dhirendrad6128 4 ай бұрын
Why write a book when you have no additional information then what is available already in public domain
@user-sz9pk4rv3n
@user-sz9pk4rv3n 4 ай бұрын
one of the most credible and competent journalist in India. I think he is an asset of India.
@harisundar8698
@harisundar8698 4 ай бұрын
Very interesting that Karan chose to ask questions by inferring on Malik’s interview and his perspective rather than on what was written on the ambassadors book and his experiences. Whats the point of asking a high commissioner on the electoral benefits of such an attack ? Is he a politician? A member of election commission ? He is putting words on the mouth literally.
@VSV659
@VSV659 4 ай бұрын
This fellow is trying to protect his job and escape the wrath of Narendra Modi. He claims to have better knowledge sitting in Pakistani than a sitting governor who was right there. Trying to make a quick buck.
@Bikerbiplabmajumder
@Bikerbiplabmajumder 4 ай бұрын
Getting back Avinabh was the great example of our diplomacy.
@sur7810
@sur7810 4 ай бұрын
Very smart questions by MR Karan. Obviously Hon. Mr ambassador should also tell that after launching those 9 missiles against Pakistan would have 21 missiles from Pakistan in response...that's what they conveyed to Modi government... So obviously there would be a war then ... Which both of the countries did not need it that time
@thawnglianlalzou7557
@thawnglianlalzou7557 4 ай бұрын
Karan your interviews are always an eye opener. Your bold,tactful and factual questions make you a gem of a journalist you are in present india
@AnthroHistorian
@AnthroHistorian 4 ай бұрын
Ajay Bisaria knows very well that the Indian air force failed in their mission and basically India never really avenged Pulwama.
@kundanpowar5944
@kundanpowar5944 4 ай бұрын
Karan must have regretted taking this interview. He was clearly ruffled by the honest answers by the former HC to Pak.😅
@sayedfaiztanvir4733
@sayedfaiztanvir4733 4 ай бұрын
He wrote Anger Management, being touted as an indictment of Modi's tough stance against Pakistan, which eventually had Pakistan released Abhinandan, purportedly. Now, he is spilling the bean. some of the finest defence analysts such as Christian Fair left Indian security establishment with proverbial eggs on their face, by calling out India's bluff.
@Jogi99Cooking1
@Jogi99Cooking1 4 ай бұрын
In the spin by Mr.Basaria, truth was the casualty. Pompeo told India that Pakistan would not wait to find out if the incoming missiles were nuclear armed or not. This appeoach would be true for the future as well.
@RajbirBhattacharjee
@RajbirBhattacharjee 4 ай бұрын
Good job Karan. Now I don't need to read his book :)
@MrHootsie
@MrHootsie 4 ай бұрын
"The point I was making is a different one" . And that different one surprisingly matches that of my masters !
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