We Open 100 Crown Zenith Packs - Was it Worth It?

[@adzmitch]

Been back in the hobby since 2021 and didn't know what Giratina was until the crazy alt art. Now it's growing on me!

[@midwesttcgco]

Love the Tina in this set, but I'm a bigger fan of the alt art in lost origin

[@MountaineerVapes]

Have you had issues with print lines on the backs of the textured GG cards?

[@TwicebakedJake]

I have seen that, English cards quality control has always been an issue

[@MountaineerVapes]

@@TwicebakedJake yeah, I pulled a gold and a secret rare pikachu with print lines on the back and it is such a bad feeling. Especially when the cards are not easy to pull. It feels like being ripped off for how much you spend on cards.

[@midwesttcgco]

Solid price and definitely a fun adventure for a video! Opened 134 packs in a run yesterday. At least $800 in bigger hits and tons of other value in the other gallery cards not counted. Seems to be an easy profit center overall

[@bilalandcards]

That's shocking that you only got a few trainer cards and a few SARs. I was thinking you were going to get an UR card for sure. Thanks for doing this video.

[@midwesttcgco]

It's weird, seems to be in clumps whenever I get hits, then there is a weird lack of hits, just straight up sadness then something to bring me back to the chase haha

[@neishaspokemon2452]

I personally love and enjoy opening packs. I don’t buy any cards for the collection due to me wanting to pull them. I think you would’ve been closer to the amount you spent if you would’ve added in the regular rare Vs and radiants. Still a good bit of hits for the opening. Glad you were able to pull cards to add to the collection.

[@dumby2175]

My best crown zenith pull so far was a hisuian zoroark vstar

[@calebhurst6219]

Thank you for the video. Always enjoy seeing mass openings. Gives me an idea of what I can expect because I am also someone that enjoys opening versus buying singles

[@midwesttcgco]

Same! I always need to see if there is hope on the world for me opening a mass amount for my own PC

[@legofanalexander]

i’ve opened around 130 packs and already at 3 gold cards and around 20 GG cards left to collect. i definitely get way better pulls from the regi boxes and feel like the etbs just aren’t it at all.

[@StratBurst92]

Some good hits there. I usually buy 3 of the product., In this case 3 PC Crown Zenith exclusive Etbs and 3 regular. Etbs. I open one and keep the others sealed.

[@MountaineerVapes]

I wish they'd do some gen 2 starter art cards. They never get love.

[@darthbacca_009]

Where’s the best place online to buy individual cards?

[@RickB.rolling]

nice vid - suggestion at the end show the cumulative value. each good card but were where you at the end? if you said it I missed it, but I would have missed a visual. thanks

[@TwicebakedJake]

I think we do note the total was around $338 near the end

[@trueborn7323]

What would be a good amount of packs to open before buying singles?

[@SimeonGTA]

Where did you get the deal

[@muffin_gobblin]

Wait, did you not get any of the textured energy cards in 100 packs?

[@TwicebakedJake]

We got holo energy but no texture energy

[@Sarah-Dub]

That's crazy about the 4 booster packs! I thought it was crazy when I got the mewtwo and the gold Palkia in one box. Ordered 6 boxes, can't wait to pick them up today!

[@Steven-eh9qs]

same pulls as me on a pc etb!

[@midwesttcgco]

Oh man, I've had boxes that are amazing then boxes with only one V card. I'm so mixed about etbs but videos like this make me think we can believe and rip again a ton ha

[@homerof.2331]

You're the MVP Jake. Keep doing you.

[@adzmitch]

When it first released I watched 30 ETB's opened with no gold cards.

[@meghanreynolds3564]

wow the hits!! Those leafeon cards would be a win for me lol! I'm gonna have to pick up a few packs!

[@midwesttcgco]

Leafeon can be a win for everyone! I genuinely lean towards the Mewtwo as it's an alt art of an alt art ha. And it's better centered than a Charizard alt art from the UPC

[@TORTANK_8]

I really lucked out with my first ETB of this set. In the second pack, I got the secret rare pikachu, and then a few packs later, the alt art Entei. There were multiple other hits in that one, too.

[@midwesttcgco]

Super disappointed in how the price of that Pikachu dropped but so it goes with sets as they get released.

[@WizardoftheGhost]

I didn't realize it was possible to pull 2 full art trainers in the same pack...was that some sort of error? U pulled Adamant and friends in sinnoh from same pack

[@TwicebakedJake]

The first full art is in the Galarian Gallery, the second full art is in the main set. So you can rarely get two full arts

[@eugenenotnkim]

Could you please share where you bought them for 450?

[@its_grev]

My kids opened one ETB each and I opened a PC ETB. We each got a gold card from our ETBs and won’t be opening another box. Told them that was top of the mountain for the “Lucario boxes”.

[@Pikachu-ez1rm]

You are right. Crown Zenith is a strong set. However I have my doubts that it will be at discount prices later this year. It's selling out fast. Some stores are selling for above msrp already

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

Yea if celebrations never went on discount, there's no way in hell crown zenith would

[@midwesttcgco]

Stores around me seem to be lacking heavy on this set and even as someone with wholesalers, it's still super limited. Kinda nice as it's not oversaturated but also frustrating as I'm trying to fill out my PC

[@thomasw..]

it’s already going up i found an etb and imma just keep it sealed if i found them for $30 i would buy like 10😂

[@fullriver1234]

They just announced a 7 booster set for $25 for walmart/black friday. Two of those for $50 is already more packs than an ETB

[@Kicks_Clothing]

it's currently still selling and a $50 10 pack box is now $35 at GameStop

[@Manking1337]

Opened 8 ETB's and my experience is pretty much the same. Constant hits in the 10-30$ area (1-2 per box) and a lot in the 2-8$ area. No gold card, no Mewtwo VSTAR. Best pulls were the Pikachu SR (2 times!!) and the Leafeon VSTAR. With the current card prices I was breaking even... but selling the duplicates etc. will probably put me in the negative area again.

[@RyanMah34]

I pulled all four gold cards (no duplicates) in my first 6 vstar universe boxes (boxes purchased split evenly between two cities). In CZ got 3/4 gold cards (no duplicates) in about 15 ETBs. I have definitely noticed batching issues for both sets and to mitigate this I spread out my ETB/box purchases from different vendors in the city or across the country, working out well so far.

[@midwesttcgco]

I'd have to assume the quality was better on them as well compared to the English set. Hoping the quality of Scarlet and Violet is better that previous sets as we leave the yellow boarders behind

[@replicant_2049]

Great video, enjoy the laid back style of this channel

[@midwesttcgco]

Right? I'm just at the gym checking out comments and enjoying the hits and he's chill to listen to

[@DaksGrassMaster]

Can't get enough of the art work in this set 🤩😍🌱💚🤗

[@TheGobzzYT]

Leafeon Vmax full art is what I'm huntin for lol

[@contagious_collectibles]

Opened up 1 etb and 2 pikachu vmax boxes. Got really lucky to pull a Dialga gold and Palkia gold.

[@nicklinn5731]

To realistically get $450 back, you have to pull atleast 2 gold cards which are anywhere around 1 in 100-150. Possible, but highly unlikely

[@jessecoenraad7732]

Damn, I think i've opened around 60 of them and pulled the gold Giratina twice. I must have been extremely lucky if the odds are actually 1 in 100-150 :D

[@ambassador724]

Giratina hype is relatively recent for sure.

[@hampusn.979]

I have opened 4 Etb's and one Regibox and have pulled 5 Radiant Charizards, litary one in every product. No other Radiant. So for me it is the most common one :D

[@mav1877]

I don't think I've ever seen you open a full case of ETB's. It is a fun set to open. I've opened like 186 packs myself and I still enjoy it. The Pikachu SR may seem like an easy pull. However, it's still around 1 in 110 packs I heard which is a little rare although easier than the gold cards

[@enthused7591]

Strangely it still seems like half of all people are getting roughly one in 30 packs, and the other half of people are pulling closer to 1 in 100.

[@mav1877]

@@enthused7591 For me it's been around 1 in 80-90. I think if you open enough packs it averages out. There may be some batching issues so people might open a case of ETB and do well.

[@Benjamin-t5l]

I pulled 2 in my first ETB, Crazy!

[@midwesttcgco]

Definitely feel this and I think there's additional value to be found in the ETB case with the promo and the sleeves, at least in this set since there's a promo, but all have sleeves and that's another $30 or so in value, so let's find another $420 in hits on this video!

[@AlbertoJMarcano]

I'm taking a break from buying Pokémon stuff, last year I overspent on it. So far this year I haven't and there's no rush, CZ will be around for a while. Crazy how much more money you have left every month when you're not collecting lol.

[@joeyo4134]

Welcome to the club brother. Exclusive, rarer, harder to get. Stick to that, pre-order a product every now and then, and never pay over msrp. If it’s in stock on the Pokémon center website after 3-4 weeks of launch be prepared to wait longer for appreciation. 👍🏼

[@katiefruin7140]

I started collecting to have a common interest with my son. It’s an expensive hobby and l liken it to gambling I.e., waiting for the next dopamine hit from pulling a rare card.

[@dannyhzm2537]

10 Pack ETB Bundle would have been a banger sale in a couple years.

[@p00pasauras]

sucks that they arent chase cards, but they all have great art and are solid collection cards imo

[@joshuastreet8664]

I’ll be waiting for pack prices to go down! All I’ve bought were Pokémon center exclusive ETBs for now

[@Wingafalei]

I opened about 15 ETBs before trying collection boxes where I had way more luck with the hard pulls (gold cards etc.). ETB you get a good few hits per box but it's so many character cards and regular set rares.

[@midwesttcgco]

Tons of value in the simple galaxy cards but gold cards are definitely hard to hit the bigger boiz

[@Kc2Crazy]

Maybe the PC ETBs were just loaded? I think your level of luck in this video is way more common than a lot of people might think. Are you going to sell those so that you can put it towards more ETBs?

[@MrDenver97ghost]

Thanks for sharing Jake 🎉

[@H20zz]

Would have liked a running total value on screen

[@Rebeliousfight]

No Gold cards or secret pikachu out of 100 packs??

[@jasonvtsportsguy2692]

Epic opening!! Love the rips! Appreciate the opportunity! Love Pokemon card collecting~

[@midwesttcgco]

Checked out your rips too! Nice stuff :)

[@EsfixLock]

It’s honestly just dumb luck I’ve opened 10 Etbs so far and on my last box and last pack I pulled the gold giratina I was in complete disbelief lol

[@Lions_Not_Sheep]

I got lucky and got two SR Pikachus and three Arceus Vstars out of ten ETBS, not a case tbc. I didn’t pay over msrp and got a few ETB’s for under msrp.

[@reego5822]

Are radiant and shining cards the same?

[@TwicebakedJake]

Different from a TCG perspective, but essentially they are both shiny version of pokemon

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

Wouldn't 9 ETBs be 90 packs?

[@xASAPxGODxx]

To say not popular , I guess you weren’t around for diamonds& pearl & platinum….

[@xASAPxGODxx]

He liked it 👀❤️ ,that was my gen of Pokémon

[@JPumpkinKing]

What fun is buying singles? The whole fun of pack opening is opening the one that has the card you’re looking for. Buying singles is boring.

[@audiobruv]

I opened 70 packs and pulled a single VStar as my best hit, no SAR or anything. I am super disappointed in the set but thats because I was super unlucky. Definately changed my mind to buy singles only in the future.

[@NotRedRips]

How sway how !?! 😢

[@LupercalRising]

Did you open loose packs or booster boxes?

[@NotRedRips]

@@LupercalRising that’s a great answer to ask mostly I would have checked the buyers review packs and be weighed

[@audiobruv]

@@LupercalRising 7 ETBs, no loose packs

[@liltonyabc]

You'd have to be delusional thinking you can make money opening packs... 😳

[@ianwager6034]

Made more than $100 in profit opening 66 packs of CZ and I still have a bunch of other cards to keep as well. Probably gonna stop while I’m ahead lol

[@krgyt2733]

I mean with this set you kinda can 😂 Any other set is a waayyy bigger gamble tho

[@Mrxio1]

I opened 100 packs, spent 450 and got around 700 in cards. Only sold like 475 though.

[@heheheha2443]

Well yes it is possible right now but the prices will go down a lot over the next few months

[@bbbbbbread]

I always make profit opening my sealed product

[@chrisjodlowski1744]

same experience and same thought process that these will be on discount later in the year

[@irresponsible-cardboard]

I am actually shocked you didn't get a Gold card or the Secret Pikachu. My friend opened three cases and got at least 3 SR Pikachus and 3 gold cards in each case. I didn't open a case, but total I've opened 82 CZ packs and got 2 gold, 1 SR pikachu, and a Mewtwo VStar (as well as all the Waifu cards [no husbandos or friends though]).

[@ryanbarrick9988]

Do you think the secret rare pikachu is a good long term hold for the price its currently at?

[@TwicebakedJake]

I think it's going to drop quite a bit more and it's hard to say given that Crown Zenith still has a lot more products released soon

[@bbbbbbread]

Out of one regeleki collection box I got 2 radiant charizards and the secret rare picachu

[@Clevejdm24]

Where are you getting 10 etb for 450 😔

[@CALIFLOWS]

Are there English version of a god pack??

[@stackstacksaveuk5350]

i got 3 etbs..thats the magic number i think..i grade in too

[@rstory2319]

Hey jake I think itll be awesome if you can show us your biggest cards from your collection . Will you ever share ?

[@danielngsj]

Jake, tough luck. I still think opening Vstar universe is better than Crown Zenith, I've opened at least 60 packs of CZ , no gold cards but 2 secret rare pikachus. From around 5 boxes of Vstar, I got 2 gold cards the Giratina and the Arceus

[@midwesttcgco]

I mean, we can talk about quality of Japanese sets versus English sets, so this might not be a profit raw, but graded? Possible!!

[@SegaDisneyUniverse]

Wow, after watching this video I'm definitely convinced that buying singles outright is the cheaper option. Not a single gold VStar or the Pikachu secret rare, ouch! And for that price for all those ETBs I could had just purchased either the Japanese Pikachu from the Precious Collector's box, or the Moonbreon! I was lucky enough to get the Pikachu and a couple other decent pulls within 3 ETBs and 1 V box, and not all at once. Also keeping my Pokemon Center Plus ETB sealed, can't believe that exclusive is exploding in value and it's my first ever sealed exclusive!

[@sasailic3006]

I ended up buying my first 5 etbs from Best Buy. Got 2 golds. Palkia in one and Arceus in another. And the ETBs that had the gold, each had a Suicune. Was definitely happy.

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

Obviously singles is cheaper. Doesn't take a video to figure that out

[@MtZaba]

this is the speed at which I normally open packs.

[@brandondollar2657]

Only issue with buying the singles is that you have to get them second hand and cant just buy packs at the store

[@joeyo4134]

TCGplayer is pretty cheap. it’s always a race to the bottom for sellers

[@brandondollar2657]

@@joeyo4134 I use them for singles its just frustrating

[@stackstacksaveuk5350]

the hunt for gold is on! great episode..at 45 bucks a box i think its worth a gamble. good luck...i pulled the gold garitina is it worth much in a 10 grade jake?

[@collectorvault]

so far i opened 7 etbs, and fortunate enough to have the pikachu secret rare and arceus gold. My worst hit was the 5th and 7th ETBs...nothing significant at all.

[@midwesttcgco]

Been there, but at least you managed some massive hits!!

[@clashmaster1016]

I’ve opened 6 etbs and on my 6th etb I got a gold dialga, suicune v, simisear vstar, and hisuian zoroark vstar. It was awesome because my 5th etb was a dud lol

[@dietpie6858]

its so sad that etb's cost 70 dollars in sweden, would've wanted to open a lot of packs

[@andreagarcia6474]

I love your videos I just started my little collection

[@cristinawentz]

The average is 1 GG super rare per box. You got 8, so 2 boxes were lacking and non had more than 1

[@loomnatinoscopers]

I also got the same regigigast alt art and radiant zard but instead of zeraora vstar I got regular V and mew vmax from my first etb lol

[@LofiWandererMusic]

I’m sorry your luck was so terrible! This set is making up for all of my terrible evolving skies luck. I pulled two of the gold cards back to back and then opened a third a few packs later. I’m also sitting at 3 if the pikachus and I have spent around $400 on the set so far

[@TimboSlyce30]

I started out by opening 7 ETBs (5 from one company and 2 from another) and my hits were so insane. It still doesn’t make sense to me how, for example, I pulled 3 total Gold Secret rares when Tcgplayer then shows the odds of pulling certain cards based on their openings. On top of that, I pulled so many top tier GG cards that again, it still doesn’t make sense. Overall, I had a hit rate of UR+ in over 50% of the packs opened. I’ll be opening more here soon and have opened on lower scale from release day and the outcome is honestly the same. I have only opened 10-20 packs since but % super high and top tier cards 1/6 packs. In your video, the pulls were solid but higher frequency in the low tier hits and a lower pull rate. DRASTIC actually. How could something like my experience happen? Different companies, same orders so “case hits” per case theory was out the window before I got thru pack 3 on the next box.

[@mitchrips]

Guess I’m buying singles, $450 could go a lot farther than those pulls

[@angelinacamacho8575]

I got one box for 300 soles here in peru which is 100 dollars.

[@thexabe3]

Right by the thumbnail im saying YES! 🤣 that is a fire set to open 🔥

[@midwesttcgco]

The title of Crown Zenith let's you know hits are aplenty and about to be seen!!

[@mrcoolxoxo7007]

I pulled origin form Palika on my 4th pack, watching all these packs being opened, it makes me realize how lucky that was

[@midwesttcgco]

I opened packs for one guy online and he got the Tina then a swing and miss pack but the following pack, Mewtwo.... Three packs, massive value

[@mrcoolxoxo7007]

@@midwesttcgco 👍 nice

[@manoaskymils]

Great video! My experience was a little odd: I opened two sealed cases, and I noticed a dupe trend with the SR's and SAR's. One case had 6 Cynthia's Ambition and Deoxys V, and the other had 5 Hisuian Zororark Vstar and Mew V. Perhaps some batching issues? Still love this set though! Going for the master for sure!

[@TimboSlyce30]

Hahaha so there was basically no crossover where CAs and Deoxys V would occasionally be pulled from the other case and same for the other 2? 1 Case and 6 Cynthia’s Ambition or any Full Art and above seems so strange to me. I had a similar experience but on a smaller scale. Multiple Entei Vs, 2 gold girarina vstars in the same 5 ETB alottment, another gold, 2 Hisuain Zoroark vstar, 2 darkrai vstar, 2 Suicune V…not that Im complaining and the hits are one part but out of 50 packs to duplicate those already hard to pull cards seems more than coincidental. Who knows.

[@midwesttcgco]

I saw this issue with Pogo etb cases. Seems like the dittos were all clumped together like the Cynthia's Ambition cards

[@enthused7591]

The whole evolving skies thing is beyond wild to me. It's a set with pretty awesome variety in terms of having 7-8 all-time great alt arts, but you NEVER pull any of them because the pull rates are the worst of any set ever other than Champions Path (the 2nd or 3rd worst set of all time). I wouldn't pay msrp for an Evolving Skies booster box because it's a guaranteed 80% loss even at 30% of what they sell for today. Pokemon would be indescribably dumb to not print more Evolving Skies booster boxes than any other set in history on this next reprint, because even if boxes crash to $130, that's still considered a very strong price point for a modern set, but they'd need to do 2 more enormous waves to achieve that, and LGS's would benefit so greatly if they each were given 30-40 booster box cases. They'd be sold out in 3 months.

[@katiefruin7140]

I only just started collecting evolving skies, so a reprint would be great and in my opinion necessary 😊

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

The pull rates are bad on purpose. same reason they put Gordie in Eevee heroes.

[@AnthonyPearse72]

Why reprint when you can buy the singles cheap of almost the whole set of evo skies besides the alt arts.

[@pacodatboy]

Opened 3 etbs 1st didn’t get much other than raikou and the simisear vstar 2nd etb I got radiant Charizard , suicune and the mewtwo vstar 3rd etb I got the Giratina VSTAR 😎

[@midwesttcgco]

I mean, I'd rather have it this way where the final box is a big hit versus hitting that first and then being said and going into a downward spiral for the following two boxes hahaha

[@KeeLLuR]

Personally I think there not going to reprint evolving skies.. not booster boxes anyway.. with the price increase coming there not thinking about a reprint at a old price.. there focusing on the future..

[@Continuum7]

I read this as 100 ETB's and was like geez 5k, 100 packs from just 10 ETB's is a lot more reasonable lol

[@sunnysidecarebear]

I got pretty lucky in a few etbs. Sold my giratina though while prices were high. It paid for everything i bought so far. Also got arceus, mewtwo, suicune, entei, 3 radiant zards the sleeping mew and of course that pika. So im not sure ill open much more. Pretty much got my chase cards for free. I may buy golds in singles later when prices drop and call it done.

[@OfficialLunarFilms]

man i sold the zamezenta and zacian normal holo rares for $3 each

[@Dwad39]

Just bad luck I think. seen 1 etb have 2 gold giratinas. My friend and I split 6 etbs and 1 of mine had gold palkia and 1 of his has gold plakia and arceus.

[@juancabrera8667]

Wish I had the money waiting on a couple things to come in but nothing this big lol

[@midwesttcgco]

I'm always weighing options on how many packs to crack versus how many singles to buy ... It's a true struggle but I know who I am and I know imma rip things like fusion Strike just to get more Gengar

[@Krulle37]

And the cycle is complete again. > Overhyping a set like it's the best ever > Opening a lot of packs > "I would not recommend opening a ton of packs" Crown Zenith is overhyped af like I said at release.

[@GruseligerZigeuner]

You’ve spent 450$ on these boosters and are getting 150$ of value out of it. Do the math.

[@ryang6588]

Whew Skies is already over 500 at the local hobby shops by me with Crown ETBs up to 80. Now using these vids to scratch the itch for me because hobby stores are moreso just trying to make an extra 40% on any product now.

[@joeyo4134]

Where are you located?

[@midwesttcgco]

You can find some pretty solid deals online but they go quickly if you find them. I had two pallets of ETBs sell out in 3 days since I was charging under retail

[@hirakatashii]

I have only pulled radiant eternatus so far (like 3 of them at least) but I actually really want the radiant charjabug 😢

[@midwesttcgco]

You might be the only person I've seen that wants the radiant charjabug ha, did you find it yet?

[@hirakatashii]

@@midwesttcgco I did finally find it! Actually when I first pulled it I got it 2 packs in a row lol (figures 😂). I just think the artwork is cute, looks way better than Eternatus imo. No Charizard yet but I’m not a huge Charizard collector anyways (although it would be good trade bait!)

[@ninoross263]

I haven't opened any more etbs yet! But I'm going to. I bought 1 etb and pulled mewtwo vstar🔥🔥🔥 for some reason when I 1st open a set I pull a big hit!!!

[@gymleadermarchello3940]

I like to get the single sleeved packs my luck is insane with those but etbs always do me dirty, I’m looking forward to opening this set as it seems you get a couple good hits per etb thats exciting to me 🎉😊🎉

[@midwesttcgco]

Singles and blisters are my jam!

[@MisterStubstep]

Wish I could do something like this. Would be some fun

[@midwesttcgco]

What's stopping you from making content online?

[@MisterStubstep]

@@midwesttcgco oh no I do! Just wish I could open 100 packs of crown zenith haha

[@ML-qw1vl]

That’s fuckin brutal…. Not one gold card…..

[@amandamcrae5639]

My boyfriend and I opened 6 ETBS and we pulled 6 Radiant Charizards and none of the other Radiants hahaha!

[@franklucas3888]

Psa 10 SR pikachu goin for 300-500$

[@thepokenook]

WAIT A SEC...you didn't even pull a single gold card or a pikachu?! From a 10-pack case of Crown Zenith? What on Earth...

[@justinh1071]

It would cost me $1300 to open 100 booster packs In my country. It's so expensive.

[@Zdeathgod]

Store owner here, just to let you know there will be no reprints of Sword and Shield.

[@doubletrouble2196]

I’m 0/24 for a hit in crown zenith and my friends are also 0/10 for it so so far we are not a fan of buying packs for this set. Even though we like the cards