WE PUT WATER IN DIESEL - Did this filter stop it?

[@Vacublaster1]

The best advice is to watch out for fuel tankers filling servo tanks when you pull into the servo. If they are refilling the fuel tank of the type of fuel that you wish to buy, leave that servo and go somewhere else. The tanker pumps fuel into the tank and stirs up all of the sediment and water etc. that has accumulated in the bottom of the tank and until it settles again, you are at risk of picking up contaminated fuel.

[@4WD247]

This is correct mate. Definitely a great tip

[@davidtesar8195]

Could you explain what is the servo tank? Thanks.

[@timchamilton]

David Tesař Servo is Australian for a service station where fuel is purchased. They are just referring to the bulk tanks at the servo

[@madlad8629]

Good too see you watched the episode with Graham and the fuel doctor bloke, now you can make comments repeating that advice.

[@slickstrings]

​@@madlad8629im mid 30s and have heard that advice since i was a kid. If youve never heard it until now thats your problem.

[@maxmacca5286]

Great video mate, I would love to see a video about the different snorkels

[@4WD247]

Cheers mate, good idea!

[@maxmacca5286]

@@4WD247 all good

[@adamthompson2666]

I've been wanting too see a video on that for a while

[@seanohutton3185]

Um... So you already did a vid about a fuel additive to do this (sort out wet and dirty diesel) which is what these seperator and filter combo's do ... So maybe before the "Snorkel" vid you do a video about the "additive vs element" approach for our diesel engines when it comes to dirty and wet diesel... Else why have a vid on one, then the other, which is which?!?. Yes, I know the answer, but not everyone will!... Especially if I have a mate text and ask "why have a video on additive for off diesel then sell a filter for off diesel"... I'm sure others will wanna know aswell,.

[@thatsgangsta2450]

Seano Hutton I’m sure you could just have the prefilter and the additive and then there’s very little chance of dirty fuel getting into your diesel. The additive cleans the fuel while the pre filter cleans out the water

[@mcchicken9878]

Arnold Swarchenegger on diesel issues lol GET THAT WATER OUT !!!

[@scottneal2738]

That one guy did have a very close voice sound

[@ktmhaka]

Arnold doesn’t run a pre filter, he just tells the water to GET OOOUT!!

[@nigelperera673]

Yeah “GET OUT NOW!” 😂

[@BenT141]

Ok, once water is detected you stop and drain it out. What then ? Do you change the pre-filter or just drain and go again till the alarm goes off? And repeat until all contamination has passed

[@slickstrings]

If its water, the filter should be fine for the recommended change interval. Just drain the water out

[@lucasbatista6262]

We need one of those here in Brazil, we have a lot problems with contaminated diesel. Thanks for the video.

[@aminrodriguez4707]

Exactly the reason I kept my 1hz engine, spent three days with contaminated diesel, it screwed the injector tips, but nothing else, and it got me back home.

[@warrickbrooks2609]

Great segment . much easier to show the finance minister(wife/boss) why we/she spent the money on our MAX. Keep up the great work guys .

[@emi123nem]

My F250 6.7 Comes with 2 filters one larger fuel filter and a smaller filter aka water separator ... it even has a drain on it ... even my old 6.0 F250 had this ...

[@taylorlivingston5963]

I normally run a bit of fuel additive to help displace moisture and water. Diesel in NZ seems to be pretty well regulated though. But why take the risk if a 30 dollar can of fuel additive can minimize the risk of water contamination and save the motor/injectors from taking a crap.

[@blakespinks1679]

Mate I’m going through this problem right now in my 2017 79 series.I got a bad batch and it’s done 15k in damages. I will be definitely putting this filter on thanks very much for sharing this vid. Insurance is covering it (so thank you club4x4).

[@rideswithhoover9789]

Pre filter was the first mod I did to my Challenger , and Mitsubishi told me run it before my factory filter or I would vowed my warranty .

[@25052007]

HJ60 had a factory water sedimenter with a light indicating to drain and it worked.

[@johnmcgovern3806]

Here in NZ we have low sulphur fuel and when it goes through a delivery pump especially a centrifugal type any water gets emulsified and because of the low sulphur content dose not colece quickly. Therefore it will not sink to the bottom of a bowl. There are filters that absorb water and hold it. Donaldson. A cheap filter I install on storage tanks, Golden Rod, has water absorbing media and a Honda pump that can pump up to 80 psi will not push water contaminated diesel through even when it has been thrashed and emulsified in the centrifugal pump. Water in diesel produces better combustion because it turns to steam exiting the injector atomising the diesel more but of course it erodes the injector tip on the way. Bugger!

[@calebmartin3036]

Best off road channel there is!

[@aminrodriguez4707]

In all countries with hight daytime temps and diesel transportation and storage, beware of condensation, is unavoidable.

[@clinty51]

After spending thousands on injector pump, hard lines to the rail, the rail and new injectors due to shitty fuel I'll take all the options. This system seem to work exactly like a Provent Catch Can, taking the oil out of the atomized air re circulation into your air box. I run a different brand pre fuel filter to supplement the factory filter. I have noticed a marked improvement by running Fuel Doctor religiously after the special that Graham did a while back, in fact it goes in the boat too. Never go to a servo that a tanker is at.

[@canyonoverland5003]

Australia is high-tech, affluent country. How is water finding its way into your underground tanks? Do you have an abundance of single hull, rusty tanks there? Can you not compel your retailers to upgrade the tanks? How about compelling the retailers to add commercial grade water separators at the fuel stations? As a Canadian driving commerial diesel trucks since 1979, I've never had an issue with water in my truck's tanks (except for one time where I forget to recap my tank after fueling up). Almost all of my trucks have had the type of water separator with the glass bowl at the bottom, but can't remember any occasion where I had to drain the water out.

[@omeba600]

What about the ‘Fuel Dr’ mix? Graham promotes that last year. It seemed to get rid of water and contaminates in the diesel. Only cost $30 per bottle. Also with the discussion on ‘old v new’ vehicles, I drive an ‘07 rodeo’ and there is no fitting for it. Anything older than 2012 is forgotten about by most companies like this.

[@phildunn1725]

Cam I highly suggest you try fuel Dr. Here in tropics with humidity it really has helped older diesels . I use in 2104 Triton and notice difference if I don't use it

[@omeba600]

Phil Dunn I have been running it on my Rodeo RA7 with the 4JJ1 motor and am more than happy with it!

[@stuarthancock571]

I use Chemtech's Diesel Power, supposed to assist with emulsifying moisture in the fuel.

[@hesitat3]

I've had a good amount of water in my filter once, but, I dont have a common rail so apparently no harm done. I did however notice extra power from my 1hz

[@angelofnq2003]

Another great show mate keep it up 👍 this is better than going to school 😜 give us more.

[@Generalpickaname]

What about fuel restrictions for the pump, does a pre-filter restrict fuel flow to the injector pump?

[@KR7PT]

I used fuel doctor in my 4wd, did the shock treatment then just used roughly 50mL per tank. Not sure if that caused it, but all 4 of my common rail injectors started leaking and playing up further down the line. $2700 later and the injectors were replaced, manifold cleaned, and she runs cleaner and quieter than ever. Next step will definitely be a Prefilter when money allows - These kits are expensive and for some reason that code won't work for a 4M41 engine model.

[@justuswithrandomstuff8250]

Did you end up getting this system for your 4M41 engine? Love to hear how things went mate, cheers

[@KR7PT]

@@justuswithrandomstuff8250 nah I went away from it, the prefilter has a larger membrane than a regular filter, it won't stop extra particulates, it'll just catch water which fuel doctor takes care of if there's any in my diesel.

[@stuarthancock571]

So a general rule of thumb is (whenever possible) fill the tank full at the end of the day. A near empty tank cooling down overnight can attracts condensation inside the tank, and puts water in the fuel. (Truckie talk, not so easy if you're camping away from a servo but the principle remains the same) Otherwise use a fuel additive can help.

[@jamesgallagher3052]

Mine just lost all power 40km after topping up it turns over but won’t start does this sound like dirty fuel?

[@Burfell1]

This was quite useful video I’m definitely gonna put extra filter on my car even though this is not a problem where I live in Norway

[@JSH083]

Direction plus for the win, been using preline filters for years. Betyer than fuel manager, well worth the extra 💰 👌

[@jettwilliamson728]

Oh dam Glen looks good😂 haven't seen him on the show since Roothy and Glen did their Bush mechanicals challenge. Who remembers that DVD?

[@kjb1336]

Love ya work fellas Thank You for this info 👍👍👍

[@kacperzabczyk4559]

Really cool video, I’ve learned a lot from it. Maybe in the future you could do a comparison between diesel and gasoline problems and how to protect your engine.

[@craigwillis3372]

Great stuff Shauno as always !!

[@patrioticpengu1n]

Another win for petrol owners!

[@Sabumnim666]

OK but do you think water compresses it certainly doe not and it can certainly damage the petrol engine on the compression stroke so while it is a bigger issue for diesel engines petrol engines are by no means immune.

[@jblfamily02]

I literally watched one of your ads before the vid 😂

[@aaronwilson6845]

They need to mention it all depends if your vehicle is under warranty or not alot of manufacturers wont cover warranties if the secondary filter it there own genuine filter. If its out side warranty then yes pre filter before genuine filter.

[@Sabumnim666]

Yep they try that but the consumer law actually does cover you. People need to get over the fear that if it is not standard then its a risk to your warranty, as an example I have a new car with a pre rego GVM and it is fully covered under my new car warranty with Ford it is in my warranty contract. If you modify your car get it done correctly, the car maker has to prove the mod contributed to the fault.

[@waderattray9210]

I feel like the biggest concern is that The service stations are selling B10 which is a 10% biodiesel and they don’t have to tell you

[@norsehall309]

Hi, Shaun, I have since new treated my Diesel with Fuel Doctor treatment, A shock amount 1 a year and 100mls every tank. also my 4x4 had a factory fitted water alarm to the dash with light and sound, Question do I need to fit a second filter, for the past 2 years I have traveled around outback SA, NSW, Qld and NT, filled up with Diesel at some remote locations and never ha an issue, I must be lucky, like to hear your thoughts, Cheers, Neil. ps love the content

[@mechanic7430]

So if you put an extra filter before the factory one does that mean it will put more load on the lift pump or injector pump in oldschool mechanical diesels that don't have an intank supply pump?

[@tomgoyne3301]

What about your video on fuel doctor?? Is it better or worse at doing the same job?

[@christineayres5339]

My Housemate just put Petrol in her new Diesel Nissan 4x4 how much trouble is she in ? she drove back 30 miles after the fill up so , hoping after its drained and refilled she wont be having a huge payout as she is a very good woman

[@alancolley9937]

Interesting. I would also note that if you want to fit a pre filter make sure it is quality as I have seen factory filters full of the contents of the pre filter and if you fit the cheap after market filter after the factory I have seen the results of damage not caused by water but the actual contents of the cheap after market filter entering the engine

[@4WD247]

Definitely need quality!

[@alancolley9937]

4WD 24-7 yep. Thank you for a great article

[@sirjolly81]

I put a bottle of fuel doctor in my 2.5 r51 with 150 000km and full tank. I started having fuel pressure issues. My filter was blocked causing fuel rail to drop pressure and go into limp mode. Only had 10k on that filter. Now my question is has it caused some damage to the injector? I got a new filter and issues have stopped for now.

[@daggerwin2870]

I have a 30 year old land cruiser and I put water in it and it ran perfectly

[@crazyharry1586]

What about Fuel Doctor that you guys were sprooking in an earlier video? it is a lot cheaper than running another filter you have to change.

[@operation4wheelz]

Every modern 4wd has a water separator as part of the filter and will warn you. They should all have a draining point at the bottom of the housing.

[@jeffparryncc1701]

Talking about rusting up, what do you guys use for preventing rust on your 4wd's, Lanotec, Lanox, fish oil or electronic, and what has/hasn't worked for you? Cheers.

[@ZedTee77]

Unleaded all the way! So much cheaper to fix things when it goes wrong! If I had a new fancy diesel rig I’d have a nervous breakdown worrying about how much it’ll cost when it goes wrong! The fella I work for just spent 5 grand getting the 12 month old (done 650 hours) John Deere’s common rail fuel system repaired after it didn’t like starting with cold gelled diesel! Too much stress worrying about diesel quality!

[@amcroft1]

So the code does NOT work outside of the models listed.

[@joshuadavey6489]

Love the vids guys keep them coming

[@M4Nathan007]

Would a prefilter also allow for a modern diesel to run off non Ultra Low Sulfur fuel? In the Central and South Americas most diesel pumps don't have modern ultra low sulfur diesel.

[@gavinthenav6594]

Sitting on rev limi for a few minutes to blow some tyres gives you rod knock apparently, found that out the hard way😢

[@chainheart3]

I have a 2.0 4D4 2003 Rav4, the pump and Injectors died at 160k ... very expensive repair

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

I live where it is below freezing 5 months of the year (USA, Northern Michigan). Won't one of those "water trapping pre-filters" freeze up and burst in the cold, rendering my diesel vehicle totally screwed/broken?

[@ToliBuilds]

Hey Shauno, maybe you should do a how to video on how to install these filters in Sooty your 80series 😬👌

[@juliussigurorsson3509]

What about fungi or bacteria contamination? Can you filter that out?

[@lewytaylor8974]

graham finally got a quality rig

[@jamieunderwood878]

The 79 is a beast

[@e210dall3]

I have a pre-filter and use Fuel Doctor in every tank. Cheapest insurance money I'll ever spend. Running a V8 Troopy.

[@alexbrown1995]

I repaired a V8 ute outback - young bloke had been filling up on properties from 44 gallon drums. His filter was completely blocked. I had to blow out all his lines and flush them with clean diesel. Told him to get a pre filter. I hope he listened....

[@imzackson]

Evan your ads are informational and i approve earn that money

[@paulviron265]

I picked up some bad diesel full of dirty water, and I had to get the injectors cleaned, fuel tank fuel lines cleaned out. I was not happy.

[@4WD247]

Happens more than you think mate!

[@errhka]

Is this a really big issue in Australia? I've never heard of this issue here in the states (honest question)

[@4WD247]

Bigger than a lot of people think.

[@Scatterpattern]

It’s a particularly huge problem if you’re being paid to make an infomercial for fuel filter manufacturers.

[@GrandadBaz]

Quite a lot of diesel is returned to the diesel tank this fuel is hot which causes condensation in the fuel tank which in turn can lead to a build up of water, which is why its always recommended to fill up the diesel tank at the end of the day.( I know that this isn't always practical)

[@jimmyjimmy951]

Ding Dong it’s more than a few and way to many if it only ever happens to me..👍🇦🇺

[@tylerwebb7425]

@Ding Dong are u an idiot, regional fuel stations get done for watering down their fuel all the time

[@mustluvbears91]

Whattabout them air diesel separator/filters, yanks go on about? Do they only benefit the big boi Detroit diesels, CATs and Cummins? What's the go there?

[@shanemcmullen239]

Can you get these type of pre filters for older models? Cause they all seem to be newer models listed. I wouldn’t mind running one in my 96 2.8 hilux

[@hassanalmola1416]

That’s so Smart

[@jaffasoft8976]

Is it the same principle for waste veg oil?

[@ryanmccosker7710]

does a pre-filter need to be serviced/replaced as often as a factory filter? For example I was always told that you do oil every 5000kms and oil+filter every 10,000kms (minimum) would this mean the pre-filter would need to be done then also?

[@graemeprocter3739]

water in diesel is not just an australian problem,it's been affecting africa for a long time already

[@joe7842]

When you do the different snorkel types can you get a camera in the snorkel somewhere and film how much water splash goes in when crossing water obstacles with a splash

[@Nick-sd7um]

Why? You should have drain valves and any decent filter will stop water from being sucked in..

[@biggiliggi1612]

Love u guys Been watching since the beggining

[@4WD247]

You're the real MVP 👍

[@danielvandermeer9776]

How can we stop contaminated fuel damaging the pick up pump in the tank I fell victim to this and had to replace the complete sender unit and both fuel filters

[@brentbancroft886]

in Trinidad and Tobago we get bad diesel all the time. Costed me $4000tt to fix my engine after I got bad diesel

[@mrfantastic5563]

so when it catches the water what do you do( empty the water out the pre filter and change the filter?

[@amilaandarage9734]

Great explanation. Question. Can this pre filter filter put kerosene from Diesel?

[@1SweetPete]

Very informative! Good stuff

[@richardgroom988]

I just saw something about Hydro Diesel where they mix diesel and eater together what's that all about?

[@gdefendi]

Where the Diesel Dr, Graham promoted before fits in the whole system then? that supposed to mix the water into the diesel to the point wouldn't damage the injectors

[@moinhaider1496]

Is there anything you can use during the fill up process that would pre-filter the diesel/petrol before it even gets into the fuel tank?

[@aaronwynn6564]

Do we need this pre filter on our petrols too??....

[@4WD247]

Dirty fuel can damage all vehicles, but Modern diesels are the most susceptible and the most expensive to repair.

[@VCCOMM]

well it would'nt hurt . prevention is cheaper

[@ReubenHorner]

Port injected petrol won't worry about water in the fuel. Of course it will not run right but you won't cause permanent damage

[@terry2can914]

Aaron Wynn Nah don’t waste ya $$s their not worth it😜

[@reignofhate86]

Is this necessary for a 1HZ? Its already got 2 fuel filters

[@ForPropertyInvestors]

What about AdBlue by mistake?

[@WogChilli]

Should send the repair bill to the fuel companies

[@scottneal2738]

I saw a video that diminstrated a smaller diesel engine and worked better. What are y'all's thoughts on this 2.0L BI-TURBO?

[@truckman539]

Gotta love that LC 79

[@Quirky5580]

What’s the difference between the direction plus pre-line plus filter and the fuel manager filter?

[@markboswarva5653]

They are both the same company the fuel manager is the older type with no senser on the bottom so the new one has a sensor and alarm set up, might be a little more to it but a quick read over it was all that I found.

[@timothyyalizis5157]

Any idea which pre-filter I could use on my 80? Couldn't find one on the Directionplus website.

[@tylawest1111]

Awesome video, cheers🤙🏾

[@Travis-k5g]

I'm baffled as to why people aren't catching on to always run a fuel additive. Have done for years and never once had an injector or injector pump problem remember every tank peeps run the additive.

[@danielbalta6434]

I had a bad batch of fuel in my 2010 hilux it destroyed the injectors and cracked 2 pistons in the engine. After all the repairs and rebuild I was up for $15k in repairs

[@dylannhurst]

Hey Shauno, do they sell a preline filter for an 80 series non turbo? Can't seem to find a kit

[@nicolasfrenzel2334]

What happens when the filter is full ? Do you need to change the entire unit ?

[@Malc664]

No, you can unscrew a tap at the bottom of the glass bowl. There's a bleed valve at the top if needed.

[@baxi1983BA]

PPD performance are charging way less for the same kit which I dont understand, was like yes Ill use the code for dual kit but then realised its still more cheaper at PPD for my 76 series

[@nicholasball7549]

the filter material is different. The others on the market offer the standard material thats been around for 30+ years which is 89% water filtration.

[@gcolosimo1352]

Great video love the channel but can u guys make a video on the first upgades you should put on your 4wd

[@katepettiford9316]

Love the video

[@charlesaloha9232]

2013 Passat TDI, 190k miles, got some bad diesel with water engine quit, dealer wants $7K USD to fix, all diesels need a water separator

[@shorelinepaintingmaintenan6357]

If water in diesel is so bad, why are a lot of diesel pumps out in the open and not under cover?

[@anthony.grisan]

heard allot of dodgy fuel due to covid and tanks not being used as much. worth it in my opinion

[@aravindaweragoda923]

Can I put the same pre filter in my 80 series?

[@chrisjones1864]

What happens when the alarm goes off and you are in the middle of no where ?

[@kyleedgerton3698]

Get out and drain the fucking bowl.

[@all41n14lla]

=> Shauno

[@troutchaser7424]

Hey Shaun, i went to the company for this discount offer and was told it doesn't cover FM series so why have a discount offer ?

[@bryceharvey6293]

Whats the difference between pre line filter and a fuel manager pre filter?

[@4WD247]

Preline is the only one with the water alarm in the cab. The fuel manager has a sight bowl and a different filter element.

[@bryceharvey6293]

@@4WD247 is there any real difference besides alarm or are they the same?

[@drewby9672]

Because it slows the fuel rate down does that mean it decreases the fuel rate to the engine making less power? Love these videos Shaun!! Can you do a video on catch cans and what’s the best brand? There’s heaps of brands and I don’t know what one to go with. Cheers

[@slickstrings]

Old comment but ill answer it. No, the fuel flow volume wont be changed as the area of filtration is larger. the VELOCITY of fuel flowing through is slowed. Its due to Benulis principal. Where the pressure is high, the flow is low. Where the pressure is low, the flow is high. Basically, the tighter the filtration media, the fuel essentially has to neck down and flow through smaller holes. it HAS to speed up to accomplish this. Just like putting your thumb over a hose. By enlarging the filtration area and the media, the fuel velocity slows down, allowing the water to fall out of suspension and fall the bottom due to higher density. Pretty clever.

[@Alienking01]

what flowrate size Prefiler is recommended for, let's say a 3.0L Diesel with 120kW ?

[@Malc664]

My Triton has a 2 micron Fuel Manager pre filter.