We're Hooked! | SHOGUN | Reaction Episode 2

[@chrisbanks6659]

Just to put the record straight - I'm English and have no fear of the flux. I shower EVERY day - sometimes twice!! 😐😂

[@Canadian_V3ngeance]

For me, as a huge history buff, this scene with the depiction of the Spanish and Portuguese zones of control is amazing. It showed very well what superpowers Spain and Portugal were in the 16th century after the Treaty of Zaragoza in 1529.

[@caiodias503]

Here in Brazil, its a basic school lesson (one side portuguese, the rest of america as spanish, and british, duchts and french as "invaders"). But we never study about the Tordesilas line on other side of the globe, because Portugal loosing control from indian ocean soon. So rarelly here they mention about portuguese in Japan (and i'm japanese descendant).

[@aloneahamo]

At the time when Portugal, Spain, and England tried to colonize Japan, Japan already had a high literacy rate, even among the lower classes. Therefore, Christianity did not spread in Japan.

[@caiodias503]

@@aloneahamo its spreads, was thousands at this time, they just persecuit they after Tokugawa arises.

[@Dushmann_]

​@@aloneahamo We never colonised Japan, nor did we even attempt to. Well, England didn't anyway. Remember that this is set in 1600. England hadn't even set up colonies in North America yet. Jamestown would only be established in like 1610. Japan was just too far away and lacked the natural resources to make colonisation worth it. Europeans were interested in Japan for trade, not colonisation. Same reason why we never colonised China or Korea. It's way too much effort to colonise a civilized people on the opposite side of the world. Christianity did spread in Japan, but eventually Christianity was banned and Christians were persecuted and hunted down. Literacy has nothing to do with whether or not you'll accept Christianity. The very nature of Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity and ESPECIALLY Islam makes them spread very quickly, especially among people who don't have a monotheistic religion with strong rules, like the Japanese in 1600 or English people in 700AD. All non-Japanese and half-Japanese people in Japan were forced to leave the country in 1633. It's quite likely that the Anjin's children were among the half-Japanese people who were forced to leave Japan. Japan remained closed until Captain Perry strong-armed the Japanese into opening themselves to trade with the West in 1854.

[@ew21st23]

At that time, Japan had a large amount of silver, and many merchant ships came from Europe in search of silver, and Japan bought a large amount of weapons. Taiko Hideyoshi dispatched troops to Korea and headed for China in order to keep Spain in check, and he also declared war on the Spanish-controlled Philippines, but the leaders of both countries died and a world war did not materialize. By the way, even before that, during Nobunaga's time, it was thought that it would be difficult for Portugal to subdue Japan militarily. Therefore, Portugal had a plan to take advantage of Nobunaga's ambition to expand into mainland China and encourage Christianity to spread to China.

[@Sir_AlexxTv]

This show spoiled me, it's poetry, and has amazing writing ... everyone's performance is outstanding, and I hope you enjoy it 😎

[@Bernie398]

every second of every scene is so cinematically aesthetic too like what the hell !!!!?

[@ethandaniel8123]

@residentzeroI think this is better than Dune, personally, just because it’s based on historical events, even though some parts are fiction. Also just because the sheer beauty of their culture that you learn about and get to see. The budget for this show was big and grand for a reason. They want to portray Japanese culture thoroughly and accurately. Also, I hear they are already working on season 2 and 3.

[@Ycekhold]

4:15 _"He does have a filthy mouth."_ Well, the phrase "swear like a sailor" exists for a reason.

[@theveryworstluck1894]

that's fair lol

[@ferchrissakes]

5:25 So, the hair styles. For the Christians, the baldness started as a tribute to Saint Peter, whose head was shaved by people who didn’t believe his teachings about Jesus and wanted to ridicule him. And it just became part of the “uniform” for monks and some clergy. I don’t know if it was ever considered “a nice look”, but especially if it wasn’t, was definitely a sign of piety and commitment if you went for it. It’s a statement, in the most literal way. As for the samurai we see with half-shaved heads, I think that was more to do with practicality and staying cool when wearing helmets. Once again it’s also a bit of a statement; “yeah, I’m samurai, ready for battle”.

[@sld1776]

I think this is the most animated I've seen the sisters. They are really enjoying the series. And I'm enjoying their reaction.

[@alcor4670]

This show rewards those who return to watch it again. Every scene is thoughtfully made, nothing is wasted. There're so many layers embedded in the writing, the acting and gestures, and even in the set pieces and props that you can't avoid picking up new revelations relevant to the story and the world they live in. Clearly one of the best shows ever made.

[@LankNprYde]

Agreed. It is somehow even more enjoyable on the second watch. A true masterpiece.

[@zh2184]

The storytelling, as well as the visual and audio elements of 'Shogun' is the most spectacular, stunning spectacle I have ever seen - matching or surpassing even 'Game of Thrones.' FX created their finest work - a masterpiece.

[@anthonyflorez5686]

“Why is he so friendly with this guy. He’s trying to get his lord killed.” Yobushige is hedging his bets and trying to play both sides.

[@sVieira151]

And he's almost as bad at it as Mac is!

[@illinfinite]

Love both of your excitement of the show. When the Pilot was explaining the world to them, it reminded me of the saying “The Roman Empire didn’t fall, it became the church”

[@bg7606]

I read this book when it came out and I was 13. This book and the original series took me away from a lot and played a huge role in me becoming a history teacher and living in Japan. I was afraid that this wasn't going to do it justice but it did. Watching you guys enjoy and understand as u watch is awesome. 👍🇯🇵⛩️

[@thissailorja]

Me too. Except it took me another 20 plus years to get there. I spent 4 years in Yokosuka. Best time of my life. I would go back in a second if my wife wanted to go back.

[@lukasismael430]

The exposition of the show's storyline is genius, because this show deals with complicated and interconnected elements including historical facts, politics, different cultures and an array of schemes but makes it relatively easy for us to understand in a single viewing.

[@_asyncify2543]

I love how every little detail tells you so much, like Ishido stamping documents mindlessly while Toranaga reads and questions everything.

[@thisisscorpio6024]

I luv how you appreciate Lord Toranaga. I think he's one of the greatest characters in 20th Century literature. And as you can see, he's a skilled warrior. An assassin is just a mouse to that cat.

[@Zseventyone]

The monks know the hair is not a good look. It’s a demonstration of humility.

[@yasuyasu4624]

The garden that flows in the intro is called ``karesansui'', and the rock is a deep mountain where immortals and Buddha live. The white sand is called ``samon'' and represents the flow of water or ripples. Build a world in your garden. In any case, it makes sense to have a ship run on white sand in the intro.

[@SteveNaranjo]

I think people don't talk enough about the details to everything in this show, the kimonos, the fabrics, the armors etc

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

Everytime this show is on and i look at the stuff the Japanese cast is wearing I think to myself "Holy sh*t that looks expensive".

[@k.v.7681]

The costuming department went nuts, and it's incredibly accurate to the period, but it's the kind of stuff only history buffs tend to pick up.

[@nyjazzman]

Great reaction. As some have said Toranaga is playing chess, while the other daimyo are playing checkers. Very complex characters and plot lines.

[@Glisern]

Yea the giving of his room to Blackthorne was a win-win. If the assassin goes for Toranagas room, then he knows Blackthorne is lying and he gets killed so whatever, and the assassin was sent by Ishido or one of the other members. If instead the assassin comes for Blackthornes room, then he's telling the truth and it's the curch that sent the assassin.

[@Flesharrower]

The "dark thoughts" Mariko has confessed to the priest (being a good Catholic, she would go to Confession) are about suicide. Remember, that for the Japanese at this time, suicide is an honourable form of death, (to release them from great shame for example), whereas for the Christians it is a mortal sin. You can see how this would create conflict for Mariko who is essentially Japanese yet trying to be a good Christian. In later episodes you'll discover more of Mariko's family history and maybe understand a little more about what drives her.

[@AndrewHarmsArtwork]

You ladies are in for a real treat with this one. Also, final episode this Tuesday osssss

[@yasuyasu4624]

The reason why TAIKO, who was in his hospital bed, proposed to Toranaga that he should be the "sole regent" was to test Toranaga, and if Toranaga had agreed to be the only regent, he would have been killed for being ambitious. TAIKO also anticipated that Toranaga would decline this proposal, and had prepared a five-person regency. TAIKO was well prepared even on his deathbed. Historically speaking, TAIKO (Taiko is a job title. Historically, Toyotomi Hideyoshi) was originally from a farming family and became a vassal of Oda Nobunaga, an outstanding genius in Japanese history. There he flourished and rose through the ranks. Toranaga (historically Tokugawa Ieyasu) at that time, like Nobunaga, was a local party leader. Ieyasu was in an alliance with Nobunaga, and to Nobunaga Ieyasu was like his younger brother. In other words, Nobunaga and Ieyasu were each local party leaders, and Hideyoshi was just a vassal of Nobunaga. Nobunaga died one step before unifying Japan. After Nobunaga's death, the positions of Hideyoshi and Ieyasu were reversed. By the way, Nobunaga's niece had three beautiful sisters. The third daughter survived by marrying Ieyasu's son. The eldest daughter became Hideyoshi's concubine. In other words, Hideyoshi made his former boss's bloodline his concubine. She then gave birth to Hideyoshi's child. He doted on this girl and his only child.

[@stewart1555]

The history exposition was such a great scene with the 3 main characters and immediately Toranaga uses that info bait Portuguese to send an assassin. He's so calculating.

[@LouieR.4682]

Yabu plays both sides because he put himself in that position but he also knows he can be killed either way or he can benefit either way.

[@Phantomgreen29]

This show makes the political intrigue of Game of Thrones look like kids stuff, just a really great show all around.

[@williambranch4283]

The writing is great and gets greater with each episode ;-)

[@kengo7273]

1494 Treaty of Tordesillas 1521 Magellan arrived in the Philippines 1529 Treaty of Zaragoza (Saragossa) These treaties defined the limits of westward Spanish exploration and the eastern ventures of Portugal. The two states acting as the vanguard of the expansion of Europe had thus divided the newly discovered sea lanes of the world between them. They came to an agreement that the Philippines became a Spanish possession. 1543 Arrival of the Portuguese in Japan and the Introduction of guns 1549 Arrival of the Jesuits

[@kengo7273]

1585 Anglo-Spanish War The war (1585-1604) was an intermittent conflict between the Habsburg Kingdom of Spain and the Kingdom of England. It began with England's military expedition in 1585 to what was then the Spanish Netherlands under the command of the Earl of Leicester, in support of the Dutch rebellion against Spanish Habsburg rule. 1587 The Bateren (Padre) Edict Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Taikō, got furious when he found out that the Jesuits were selling Japanese abroad as slaves and breaking down Shinto shrines and Buddhist temples in Nagasaki area.

[@kengo7273]

1596 San Felipe incident On October 19, 1596, the Spanish ship San Felipe was shipwrecked on Urado in Kōchi en route from Manila to Acapulco in the Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade. The local daimyō Chōsokabe Motochika who ruled Tosa province seized the cargo of the richly laden Manila galleon, and the incident escalated to Toyotomi Hideyoshi, ruling Taikō of Japan. The pilot of the ship suggested to Japanese authorities that it was the Spanish modus operandi to have missionaries infiltrate a country before an eventual military conquest. This led to the crucifixion of 26 Catholics in Nagasaki. Six Spanish Franciscan missionaries and 20 Japanese Catholics were captured in Osaka and Kyoto, and sent to Nagasaki where they were executed on February 5, 1597. Martino de la Ascencion, one of the 26 Catholics wrote in a letter to the Philippine Governor about his own execution and Hideyoshi's plans to invade the Philippines.

[@kengo7273]

These events, and others that happened later, led to the expulsion of Portugal and Spain from Japan, and the Tokugawa Shogunate, established in 1603, limited entry into Japan to the Protestant Netherlands, which promised not to propagate Christianity in Japan, and the Chinese Qing Dynasty. Japan still was trading with Portugal and Spain through Southeast Asia such as Macao and Manila. 1612 Tokugawa's Ban on Christianity Many Christians were exiled to Manila and Macau. 1624 Ban on Spanish ships coming to Japan Portugal had secured a high share of the transit trade of Chinese silk (in exchange for Japanese silver) to Japan, so it was difficult for the Tokugawa Shogunate to cut off this trade. The Shogunate saw Spain as having stronger Catholic missionary and colonial intentions. Portugal later lost this role to the Dutch and was expelled from Japan in 1639.

[@kukiesstuff9428]

The plot thickens! Toranaga the Master Trickster. Nice analysis girls.

[@wulfman76]

china was the source of silk for japanese kimonos. japan had silver mines. both would not trade with each other thus paved the way for the portugese to be the middle men.

[@Rook.Kaiser]

so glad you guys got into this.

[@MrEnvisioner]

Hey again. Caught up with you guys, and dang, the mapmaking scene was easily my favorite moment of the series so far. The way Toranaga's actor was shaking with rage, but still controlling himself nobly when John shared how the European imperialists divided up the world as "theirs"...sooo good. Loved your reactions, and I'll be looking forward to the rest of the series!

[@ParlonsAstronomie]

Damn this shos is even better on the second watch ! The reaction of the chrisitan lords wanting the death of the barabrian as soon as possible seems exagerated at first, but you can fully understand it after the revelation about the world's departition.

[@taynanbelussi6449]

Shogun explains history better than schools

[@piyushpandey5978]

In most of the countries, school systems are compromised to the extent that history changes with every populist government takeover, be it left or right.

[@k.v.7681]

It's historical fiction, so it does not. Incredible entertainment and a great story, sure, big on historical inspiration, but loads of liberties. Which isn't an issue since they never claimed to depict actual history, rather the feel of it, but it's not a source to learn history. A good stepping stone to get interested in the topic, but that's it.

[@ray24051]

Looks like you two are enjoying the show!

[@thissailorja]

Oh and buckle in ladies, its only going to get way more exciting and interesting. Please keep in mind the gestures, phrases used and the oh so subtleties used in expressions. They are so calm sounding but the daggers in the words are so very sharp.

[@P.Whitestrake]

The actress who played Ochiba is known to played dark roles in Japanese movies. Her name is Fumi Nikaido. Usually a troubled woman. She's a very good actress.

[@yousanti8118]

She has also played the lead role in "Tonde Saitama" a series of outlandish comedy films based on the comic strip.

[@MrEnvisioner]

12:56 "Oh, a stamp!" Continued in Japan to this day, stamps are often used as one's signature, in place of writing one's name in cursive as Western society does. You'll occasionally see Japanese anime where characters "sign" legal documents using a stamp. First one that comes to mind is "Oshi no Ko" where someone signs an employment contract that way.

[@jenk4545]

The "Unless I win" line carries even more weight in the original series. Anjin tells Toranaga that the Dutch fought a war to overthrow their Portuguese overlords. Toranaga says that it is unforgivable to raise a hand to one's rightful rulers, to which Anjin replies "Unless you win". Toranaga is smack in the middle of trying to overthrow his rightful rulers, so naturally he agrees with Anjin.

[@wulfsragar]

overthrow their Spanish overlords, Spain had the lowlands as fiefs back in the day until the Dutch revolted against Spanish rule, it's the main reason why the Netherlands exist in the first place, i know because i live there

[@dncthoughts]

I love how y'all pay attention even when discussing the show. I think you're one of the few who actually realized Toronaga's plan, how he announced to everyone where the Anjin would sleep so if a spy is listening in they'll attack which room he mentioned but switched with him to see if his hunch that the pilot will be assasinated is correct.

[@ericsaari2901]

Such a great episode, and it keeps on getting better from here!

[@petrusjnaude7279]

I don't know why, but I love the way they did the first meeting between Toranaga and Blackthorne (removing the translator like you said).

[@creativitycell]

As an English guy in London UK, who loves this Show, if U do, and you WILL! I can also recommend Peaky Blinders, Line of Duty, as the two best UK BBC shows EVER made and just as thrillingly addictive! Some react to Peaky, but none to Line of Duty, which is incredible, with a banging theme tune / end out drop! Show was Huge in UK! Every episode was a TV National event! Other show of this calibre was/is OZARK (US) & Justified. I rate ALL these shows up there with Game of Thrones quality! Which I'm sure you have seen. I've watched every season of Line of Duty & Peaky blinders 3x, so good. But would to see more react to Line of Duty, so I can watch it again! 😂❤🙏

[@DaVic133]

I remember in the 1980s series Mariko poor thing had to continuously remind Blackthorne that Lord Toranaga is very wise. I can just hear her say, I told you Anjinson, Lord Toranaga is very wise. Great reaction y'all.

[@kavzz918]

Finally! Shogun react :D

[@williamwhitcher7496]

Great show, so compelling! Great reactions loved it!

[@creativitycell]

This show is a banger! Samurai have to be the best warriors in history. HAI!😂

[@holyTripleSix]

looking forward to more of your shogun reactions. your reactions are very charming

[@thissailorja]

The thing about the Priests hair is interesting. IF i remember correctly, they shaved their heads in that pattern because of some belief that their prayers would be more effective if they shaved like that. I guess the hat is no impediment but the hair is?

[@vito_corleone23]

More shogun reactions pls 🥰🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍😍🥰🥰❤❤

[@jason42080]

The Hair Style for the Catholic Monks represents Humility, but it also could be viewed/seen as holy symbolic as well like say a Halo or as a Crown of Thorns.

[@Bekka_Noyb]

♥ this show! Anna Sawaii (Mariko) is stunning! 😳

[@nickgoodnough6262]

I think this is set before "Blue Eyes Samurai". Before Japan banned all foreigners?

[@vincentdesjardins1354]

Shogun start in 1600 (says opening of 1st episode) and if memory serve Blue Eye start in 1608

[@sbj2k1]

@@vincentdesjardins1354 Blue Eye Samurai episode 8 takes place in 1657 :)

[@TwoForTwentyFilms]

R.I.P Kunoichi - the deadly flower. Ninpo Ik-Kan!

[@mambans]

Such a beautiful show.

[@joecochran7797]

Toranaga is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

[@creativitycell]

If this show doesn't get U girls dressing up in Kimonos, styling your hair Japanese and having a SHOGUN themed night or party, I'll be very surprised! I love the ancient Japanese culture, especially HONOUR & Respect, which modern culture lacks so much.❤🙏

[@amrosoronar1853]

Anna Sawai = Achike Mariko = Emmy

[@vincentdesjardins1354]

yeah, I don't see who could take it away from her. This year TV shows she's unrivaled.

[@tiberianexcalibur]

You guys should watch Fallout. Great series based on a video game. Nothing negative to say about it.

[@OMGFrijoles]

TODA HIROKATSUU'YO

[@fuzzy__dunlop]

24:05 - "heck these people. heck this girl". Language! This is family programming.

[@DuskF5]

I know there's only so much that can be adapted but I would love to see more projects involving these actors and actresses, maybe adapt Ghost of Tsushima? Nioh 1 - 2?

[@already_in_use_]

A Ghost of Tsushima movie is actually in pre-production. It will be directed by Chad Stahelski, who directed all the John Wick movies. No cast has been announced yet, but Sony has said they want an all Japanese cast.

[@captironsight]

Blue Eyed Samurai One Day maybe?

[@nathanspiers914]

💯 this please

[@vincentdesjardins1354]

I second that ! perfect follow-up to Shogun

[@frank3manuel]

I believe that hairstyle for priests in the past was for god's grace to more easily enter their body from the tops of their heads. I guess hair is spirit-proof somehow.

[@DiegoSanchez-jh2oz]

Erwin Smith for the win!

[@plprooo]

Did you guys say “fuck it” with avatar reactions?

[@jackson857]

These ladies are so smart. Love their reactions.

[@Angle-saxon-94]

Smart 😂🤣 what the next joke

[@atuuschaaw]

♥

[@KevinCornelia]

Haylo 💘💗

[@adlerzwei]

Heeeei heeeeei hooooooo ✊🏼🏯

[@joaomachado4260]

🥰🥰

[@timr6318]

Yobushige is a great character, but he's a total snake.

[@h.aikaal]

Have you watched the Australian man democracy manifest video? If you have, try to compare Blackthorn's way of talking to his, especially the part "a succulent chinese meal?" It's very fun

[@じゅんいちK]

アニメ「怪獣8号」面白かったですよ Kaiju No.8

[@Usereclipse8107]

Hey sis please watch ( black clover ) it's too good you won't regret it watching please🙏

[@vito_corleone23]

Also,i would recommend The Witcher for some new reacts,ofc if u want to 😉

[@vincentdesjardins1354]

I think a declining quality show is an issue for a reactors. First season good, good quality, good engagement and views. But when comes the time to react to s**ty season 3 you end up with a loose-loose dilemma : Spending time and ressources (watch time, editing, uploads) for low engagement and poor views OR stop reacting stone cold and have an unfinished TV show on the channel playlists (not very appealing)

[@innocentbystander1853]

Please react to BLUE EYE SAMURAI series

[@nathanspiers914]

💯 this please

[@vincentdesjardins1354]

yes please !!!

[@sirrus3009]

Blondie, you are smart

[@こきまろ上等兵]

この時代の武士の妻は　眉毛を剃り歯を黒く染めるのが本当です。 しかしそれを再現した作品は日本でもあまりありません。 なぜならば女性俳優のイメージダウンにもなりますので役を引き受ける女性俳優が見つからないからです。 だから再現できないのです。

[@sld1776]

The "our countries are at war" thing is annoying. England and Portugal have NEVER been at war. England and Portugal have been allies since 1386.