We've been buffed! 11.0.5 Frost DK Update video

[@flyingraijin5867]

will oblit builds became more viable with these changes? For higher keys specificly

[@jossangr]

no , BoS ,in big pulls will remain king, since SF is bad and FS damage, low, plus u loose 6% constant stre from gargule rune, cause u need razorrice

[@ASTRALEGION]

​@@jossangr nahh, someone already did the math and you're not losing more than like 50-70k dmg vs using breath. So yes, shatter will be usable. You wont be pushing 15s with it but it'll be viable in other keys.

[@jossangr]

@ASTRALEGION i did expect that

[@obliwow]

@@ASTRALEGION yeah the damage is getting closer, but the profile is worse, keys like priority damage which shatter doesnt have as well as breath

[@patrickbeale49]

Do you see frost changing to Riders as opposed to Deathbringer with the shift in the obliterate build become viable or does Deathbringer still outweigh riders

[@obliwow]

Good question, no I do not see that happening, breath provides too much priority damage which is so valuable in keys as well as not being as punishing as riders. Riders might be easier to understand but its way more finicky to make the same numbers as dnd, breath macro, oblit spam

[@patrickbeale49]

@@obliwowwhat are you using in your breath macro. I’ve equipped ovinax egg and treach transmit. I go pillar then empower then breath then treach all macrod in that order. I have all the trinkets…sacbrood, mark of khadros…and shard, but I really hate running 2 on use but sims tell me different

[@obliwow]

@@patrickbeale49 #showtooltip Breath of Sindragosa /cast Pillar of frost /cast !Breath of Sindragosa /cast Raise Dead /cast Blood Fury /cast Empower Rune Weapon /use Fleeting Tempered Potion /use 13

[@WilliamG96]

link?

[@zakaryquintyne279]

Hey obli, new dk here, would you consider making a video discussing talent builds and the merits of choosing different paths? I’ve noticed your build is quite different to the cookie cutter

[@obliwow]

Hi mate! Right the way talent trees are, you can customise the paths quite nicely to do with the content you play and the playstyle you have that allows your dps to shine. Cookie cutter builds are a great way of giving yourself somewhere to start and typically come from sims which play very linearly and one directional. Human gameplay can see you making mistakes, getting mechanics, all sorts of things - so with that in mind, a change I like to play with is inc runic power instead of frost strike damage as it can allow for a more fluid and less punishing gameplay style with an extra 20 rp (a twitch chatter put me onto this!) and frost strike does poor damage off the bat. But yes! I have considered a talent breakdown video yeah!

[@zakaryquintyne279]

@ Thanks for the reply! I've given the extra rp talent a spin and can see how it'll help. I've just about finished all 11s and I'm trying to get some 12's done, but when I watch my vods back my Rune/KM/RP generation just looks so much slower than yours and I become starved. Being stuck at 1.2-1.5m dps obviously isn't high enough to be comfortable in a 12. If you could post some logs up in a discord or a dungeon commentary of your thought process im sure the pleb frost's like me would really appreciate it. Thanks again for the advice

[@obliwow]

@@zakaryquintyne279 Dungeon commentary video is actually a great idea! Keep your eyes on the channel and I'll get one out very soon!!

[@MasterRoachi966]

hopefully they arent just playing around with small metrics to start in prep for a massive tune out of no where

[@obliwow]

I'd think they'll probably leave us be now as we're in a balanced spot and all our new specs are somewhat competitive but we shall see!

[@gabrielevernucci1773]

Are those buffs alredy live? Good explain man

[@obliwow]

Thank you! Not just yet! next reset!

[@protodani]

Do the deathbringer buffs work for frost also? Or just for blood

[@obliwow]

Just blood exclusively

[@jossangr]

well i belive the direction of buff is correct, the way and numbers are wrong, imho, obl should be like 5% buff, bos [since not redesign] 10% nerf is ok,but Fs and SF shal be buffed more, so this spec is viable compared to BoS

[@obliwow]

im just happy we've gotten the buff!

[@jossangr]

@@obliwow its isnt exacrtly a buff,is a re-direct from aoe to single damage, total dps is unchainged mostly. and prolly in heavy aoe senarios, nerf slightly

[@obliwow]

​@@jossangr we do more dmg off this so it is a buff mate

[@emented9208]

@@obliwowis it better in m+? No more bos? Shattered build. Or riders?

[@nicjiang1956]

after patch can apocalypse M+?

[@obliwow]

You can, but it wont be as good as breath is in keys - its just more viable than before

[@Atos1951]

Obli from Obliterate? Lol

[@obliwow]

Obli from Frost strike

[@emented9208]

@@obliwowlmao

[@roundhousetodaface]

10% on breath sucks sm