WE'VE BEEN DUPED!!! Pokemon Card Pull Rates for Temporal Forces REVEALED!

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Temporal Forces is officially released and features some of the most beautiful artworks we have ever seen in a Pokemon Card set. With stunning new Paradox Pokemon Cards, Temporal Forces can be a ton of fun to open, but also comes at a cost. Pokemon Pull Rates during the Scarlet and Violet Generation have been extremely strong with Special Illustration Rares and Hyper Rares appearing in nearly every Pokemon Card Booster Box. However, this is not the case for Temporal Forces with Pokemon Pull Rates being completely nerfed.
While still fun to open, Pokemon Card Collectors need to make sure they are careful budgeting their spend on this new Pokemon Card Set. Will the lower Pokemon Card Pull Rates deter you from opening Temporal Forces?
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[@rafethomas9126]

I just saw a pull rate infographic on Reddit. They're pretty rough.

[@joeyjoeybacks]

Not that great of cards

[@dogmeme2756]

@@joeyjoeybacksperspective will change

[@joeyjoeybacks]

@@dogmeme2756 there is like 2 good cards And paldean fates will over shadow

[@kirito-chan9884]

This makes the pull rate of SARs VERY comparable to alternate arts from Sword and Shield. Many people demanded worse pull rates and here it is guys. Have fun

[@damionc8232]

I’m having fun. Hit SIR in one booster box.

[@luukvanderwijk3672]

Well not exactly, alternate arts are like 1 every 200 packs in swsh, one sir every other booster box is way better.

[@michaelbrown1724]

Rough… I haven’t been opening S&V but I bought 3 loose packs from a shop last night and pulled Gengar full art, raging Bolt gold card, and iron boulder regular ex. Might end it with that since it seems I’ve got nowhere to go but down from there haha

[@SortaSteve]

Thanks for doing this, as always! It's so strange to see the different pull rats b/w sets.

[@TacoChewsday]

crazy number of booster packs, but we appreciate you documenting the stats and journey!!

[@Robdub2024]

Happy Temporal Forces Release Day. I bought six single sleeved packs and pulled a Cutiefly illustration rare and the Iron Boulder EX full art. Not a bad start!

[@jaredp6536]

So wild Eri was your last out of that many packs. I generally do not get good pulls, but I got it out of my first pack from starting this set out of a booster bundle. Just goes to show how different everyone's experiences are with pokemon

[@MrMcbear]

I remember when you could finish a set with a couple booster boxes back in the "vintage" days

[@thatrandomguycommenting1261]

Yea those also had like 70 cards in a set not almost 300 but I feel you.

[@roostre5254]

You mean back when we had no cool Full arts or alternate arts?

[@matttran7161]

I was able to complete Base, Jungle, and Fossil with kid money. Like allowance, mowing lawns, Christmas and Easter. All three of those set combined are still less one modern set.

[@user-fd2fd6lm1o]

@@matttran7161you can’t compare then and now. back then all we had was basic halo graphics. now we have secret rares, alt arts, gold cards, special illustration, reg illustration, ex, rainbow, trainer full art, etc. you are an idiot.

[@lynitheah]

​@matttran7161 with literally half the amount of cards, no special art, no secret rare, only common and holo.

[@Machu_Pichu_]

appreciate these amazing videos and all the hard work behind the scenes!

[@codyekaf967]

Super new to your channel , started investing upon finding you. Awesome to get the nostalgia from when I was kid opening Pokémon Cards. Got some lost origins and fusion strike booster boxes in my collection so far and hoping to catch the 151 reprint if it comes while picking up boosters as I can:

[@PottsV1]

Great work as always. Have you seen TCG Players data? They had a sample size of 8000. Similar to yours (as usual) but SIRs and Hypers were a bit rarer still. Seeing the data I feel I was quite lucky. No SIR or gold but had 15 hits. 6 Double rare, 2 ACE , but 3 IRs and 4 Ultra Rares.

[@8DrunkenGods1]

Nice! But 2k packs, omg! I'll never be able to complete that binder set unfortunately.

[@PackageTotal]

I hope the pull rate is down and not just batching issues where like we saw in other sets. Like 151 sometimes there's no hits and sometimes I'm pulling 4 SIRs out of 4 products that I picked up at the same time at the store.

[@GoCubbies1]

awesome video! love all the iron crowns in temporal forces

[@Go_Bills]

excited to open up some temporal forces (despite the tougher pull rates!)

[@Gab2456_]

Pretty sad to see this set having tougher pulls tbh, it makes it harder to get desirable singles. Problem they might get more expensive in the future because of its artwork and circulation atm. It's not an easy set but it is pretty amazing for it. Seeing how these cards look I will not be very surprised to see this set going up on price in the future like Evolving Skies or Fusion Strike atm. It might not be the same due to quality control but due to the awesome artworks id say it could go up on price. But once again thanks for the information man. Great Video.

[@larryfrostgiver4933]

Just finished watching. Outstanding content. Something to wonder about, the competitive aspect of this set notwithstanding: if the Special Illustration rares don't have a lot of value as singles, given they are so hard to pull, will this set just die on the vine? Will be interesting to track pricing and trends for this one.

[@gamesandactionfiguresetups4281]

Great work, thanks for update!

[@PokeNewbie]

Thanks for all this information! Crazy pull rates.

[@therolando608]

2000 Booster Packs * $4.5/pack = $9000..... absolute insanity

[@jasone42683]

You could probably buy 3 to 5 master sets for that price after the dip

[@le_med]

He said he opened 50+ booster boxes

[@ScizzyGibbler]

They opened booster boxes, about $100 a box if you bought cases of 6, which breaks down to $2.75 a pack-ish.

[@cheaseeds6207]

hes a lgs so his boxes are cheaper

[@buffalobill9793]

Your missing the point. Pokemon isn't designed anymore with the expectation that people have to collect them all. Some cards are so rare that getting one occasionally is suppose to be expected and accepted. If Pokemon never wanted this to be the case they never should have started printing prize cards and staff cards in low numbers.

[@jourdin6158]

Appreciate the info Danny! Cool set but rough pull rates.

[@dingross]

Great video as always! Always love your data videos

[@RainMakerTIA]

I love how the video started!

[@kevinmottershaw5363]

Great sum up as always Danny. I don't see me pulling much in my 2 3pack blisters then.🤔😁😜

[@vivianvanhek9562]

Thanks for all the useful information. I’d like to see reasonable good pulls in booster packs.

[@PiannaCh]

Thank you for sharing pull rates!

[@openedmango]

Let's goo Danny! The pull rates are super intersting. Seems the trend is to make cards harder to pull to try and boost up the singles price to make the booster boxes more valuable. Thereby selling more products. While at the same time gradually reducing print runs. Pokemon be smart. I would say 2 years from now, were are going to be looking at nice growth.

[@npeterson89]

thanks for saving me I was almost ready to buy two boosters on this.

[@PokeAnto96]

Thanks for the update 👍

[@ThatGuyyOnYouTube]

Awesome Video, as per usual!! Keep it up 🫡

[@smackcast]

Oh wow thanks for this video! Insane! If they actually do limit the prints of this set, these sealed box will be really expensive in a couple of months/years I believe...

[@ajithrajaful]

theres no confirmation that they are limiting the prints of this set. they may have printed less initially because they don't expect much demand but that says nothing on how much they can print later. anyone who says this set is short printed is either misinforming you or they must be a billionaire because they know the true print run data of all the pokemon sets

[@kaijutraps]

I mean from what we know now you make a good educated guess I mean you can get a box at 93 rn lowest I've seen and it is having a shorter print run that's fact we are already selling the next before this one drops now is it that significant we don't know because they have been increasing print numbers each year so even tho it's a shorter run it could still be larger than prior years due increased volume but there's a chance you can take rn and buy low w a chance this stays lower printed than the others and it has pull rates that are tough could end up making this box more valuable you don't need crazy data to make an educated guess this box could be better

[@ajithrajaful]

@@kaijutraps im not saying this set isnt a good investment. I like this set a lot along with 151. My argument is that nobody knows what the pokemon company will do about the print runs. "it is having a shorter print run that's fact" - this is not fact the pokemon company can decide to print more later on. "we are already selling the next before this one drops"- this is done for many sets you said it yourself its an educated guess. Which is fine. My argument is against the claims that its a fact that there is a shorter print run. This is not a fact.

[@smackcast]

Yes yes I totally agree with you, that's why I carefully started by "If they..." ;)@@ajithrajaful

[@xkpunisher]

Thanks for the information that was great 👍!

[@thomasvlekke5365]

Unbelievable... really just insane. Thousands of dollars + nearing 2k packs. The pull rates are really rough. Love the set though, both tcg meta and collectibles. Thanks, as always, for your contribution to this community Danny ❤

[@nelio123]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@Rock_Ruff1]

love the deep dive into the pull rates

[@josephs.4716]

Thanks for for the information!

[@EnergeticSloth1]

what an amazing feat! thank you for documenting the journey for us

[@ericle8463]

hello, Love your videos! Thank you for your help always. What a beautiful master set. i would love to complete it one day.

[@MrkThomas888]

Love your channel. Keep up the good work.

[@robertbushjr5947]

Great info and well put together

[@chrisgraphs1015]

Thanks again Danny for the cool pull rate numbers. These are my favorite videos. Packs are fun but like you always say spend your collecting dollars what is best for you and for me it's singles. Granted I tend to like more than a couple cards in a set, so I end up with more than one copy.

[@Andrewyosh22]

These numbers are crazy! I think the best course is purchase between 2-4 booster boxes and hope for a SIR. but I think the bulk of the hits I'll buy/trade as singles

[@fnkypenguin]

gastly illustration rare is really nice. hoping to pull that one myself.

[@travisoneill1385]

I just started collecting Pokemon again and they bring the sets out way to quick I've got Scarlett and violet base ,paradox riff , Obsidian flames, 151, Paldea evolved on the go still haven't even got the paldea fates yet then temporal forces comes out and then there bringing out Twilight Masquerade next

[@joseph1895]

Opened a couple PC etbs of each artwork. Got a few regular ex cards but no full arts, no gold cards, no SIRs and only 2 IR. I like the artworks in this set. I’ll have to buy the singles, can’t justify opening many more packs unless I open a couple occasionally just for fun.

[@mav1877]

I'm glad I didn't buy a booster box and just bought some bundles and single packs for Temporal Forces. It's unfortunate about pull rates. It might turn off some people for future sets if Pokemon doesn't give you a hyper or SIR per booster box now on average

[@jeremyanderson2503]

packs are too expensive at msrp to only get all the normal 10cent rares.

[@pokedaddycards]

I agree. I think I'm out after my first box I already have orders coming in the mail. Wish me luck

[@jacobchickering]

I love this set of videos danny keep it up my friend

[@kale2325]

Looks about right, from what i got in my box. 5 full arts, 2 ace specs, 8 ex's total

[@maeluu7937]

I opened one of each etb and two booster bundles and pulled a special illustration rare, two illustration rares, and three ace specs. I had a few base ex hits but I’d have to look in the pile to see how many. I enjoyed opening it but I have about ten packs left in me before I just get singles because I know my luck won’t hold out

[@AlltheAces101]

Lmfao nice snow analogy! What kind of shovel do you have that annihilates your ankle like that?!?!

[@sleepyslowpoke]

so many nice illustration rares in the set! especially lickitung.

[@sobasaiyan7972]

I just saw that selling for $1

[@t00tiredforthis]

beautiful master set! love the future pokemon in temporal forces

[@nicholaslandis596]

Danny... ur such an honest person and that's y I'm here to stay. Not worried about pushing product, making money, or even making a name for yourself. Just giving it straight. I respect you for that.. thank you danny for being u

[@weskarp7643]

Your nieve. He was buying this card up when it was $55. Now he is selling it for $250. His job is to hype it up so he can profit off fomos like you man. Don't be duped .

[@nicholaslandis596]

@weskarp7643 u really think he alone controlls the pokemon market? Who is nieve again? U must not really watch danny, he gives wayyyyyy more than he should.

[@TRose18]

Excited for opening this set, but sad that the pull rates are worse.

[@itsame4373]

RIP Danny ankle. Thank you for delving into this!

[@AeroDak]

tough pull rates but awesome you got it done!

[@annieversary89]

the pull rates have been very tough for us but hopeful we'll pull both biana full art cards

[@Fritzappeal]

Definitely going to start buying singles from now on. Thanks for the input & being very informative

[@fishyonme6897]

what an amazing video and master set journey!

[@SnuffyPuppers]

master set looks beautiful in that binder!

[@PrometheusRize]

love all the ghost-type related pokemon and trainer in this set!

[@Asuperbad]

Happy release day!!!! Not going too ham this set but excited to rip a few

[@Semitote]

What was bizarre is I did not get a single 2nd reverse slot pull (IR/SR/HR?) in 16 sleeved boosters, 2 3-pack blisters, and 2 1-pack blisters.. and only 6 IR + 1 SIR (Gouging Fire) in 2 booster boxes.. but my overall hit rate was still 37%... lots of ex's and full arts.

[@davloy1]

Danny phantump kept up the good work , from Australia we enjoy your content

[@MajorenSnor]

Damn mr Phantump, you've been hard at work, much respect

[@lowdowndirty100]

Wow I think I actually might stick with opening paldean fates after seeing these pull rates lol

[@brandonforster3719]

I would still try and see you might have good luck. I got 1 Pokemon Center ETB at 59.99 plus tax and I pulled Biancas Devotion Alt Art, Iron Leaves Ex Full Art, and Metagross IR. Also comes with the promos that are only in the ETBs

[@toasty699]

Love the content danny! Does this mean your ankle is the new finger 🤔

[@karrielau4227]

I just pulled my first 6 packs. I really love this set🎉

[@mitchellryan7509]

Hi mate, Thanks for sharing the info

[@RayRayVmax]

love the iron leaves chase card from this set

[@ChickenAndBreadCollectables]

I was super surprised, I was at the store and checked the pokemon machine and.... Temporal Forces etbs..! They never have brand new at the machines on the day of release... I... Times are changing.

[@KAOS4EVER1]

Awesome accomplishment!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 After hearing about the tough pull rates from a couple of poketubers, I would expect this set will drop in price hard because there's really nothing that's super appealing about it IMHO. 😅😅

[@LegendaryRips]

Thanks for sharing! 🎉

[@Edwin582]

Amazing information. Thanks

[@Jelly_Raptor]

Super excited to crack this set!

[@ActuallyNoma]

Have yet to open anything from temporal forces but I did end up just buying singles and I'm kind of glad I did

[@jessearodriguez]

Opened a booster box, got one SIR (raging bolt), three IRs, two Ace Spec, three Full art Pokémon, one full art trainer, and five DR ex’s. Sounds like I got extremely lucky! I have a second box on the way but after that good luck and seeing the full pull rate data, I’ll probably just sell that one and grab a few singles that I’ve got my eye on after the prices cool off.

[@perrymiles3073]

appreciate the work phanny ;)

[@babyyoda92]

huge fan of the return of ace specs! so OP

[@JoWiASMR]

I bought 3 sleeved booster packs from my LCS while I am waiting for my bigger orders. In the third pack I pulled the Raging Bolt ex SIR! I never have that kind of luck. 😊

[@Dylan_Leafstorm]

I guess the Pokémon company heard us complain about the pull rates for SV 😅

[@williamhernandez8526]

😂😂

[@thecommoncollector]

Oof sorry about your leg Danny! Hope it feels better soon!

[@electric_manectric]

the future pokemon full arts look awesome! my favorite is iron leaves Ex

[@kdufflive]

This is the first set in a while that I'm only opening 1 booster box and then by singles after that. I loved the SWSH chase because there was something worth chasing. I don't get that with this set at all.

[@gloomygloom]

Love temporal forces! So many gorgeous artworks.

[@StevenNeoSayBin]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@TheFriskySquid]

Pretty crazy. Definitely think the SIRs should retain value, and rarity helps that - but still it makes it less fun to open on average. I definitely think they could make the sets more exciting again if they made the regular holo rare pattern actually interesting though. Back in the day we had cosmos holo regular rares and really cool reverses, now we have bland holos and bland reverses.

[@MrGuitarfreak132]

This 100%!!!! Keep the hard SIR chase. But make ex’s nice hand drawn closer to a baby shiny or old school holo. Something that actually is fun to collect and feels like a hit. I hate regular ex cards. So ugly.

[@JosephTramm]

thanks for the info.

[@angel1735]

The art in this set is beautiful and I love the new ace specs cards

[@Probasaur]

I may need to purchase some singles. That eri SIR is incredible. So many nice ilkustrwtion rares. Will be interesting seeing to see what singles prices look like in relation to these new pull rates.

[@RLaoGT]

This is my first set in the while that I decided I was going to open a bunch of boosters for too bad. The pull rates are not great but I'm not really collecting rather building to play somewhat competitively. I just bought a box of build and battle displays for $130. I'll let ya know how my pulls go when i receive and open em up

[@Milo_Mitchell]

This is an awesome set! I love the sirs

[@shinyhunter93]

what a journey but thank you for sharing it with us!

[@joelsegovia6971]

Awesome video !

[@PiplupParty.]

love the raging bolt alt art in this set

[@mewXmewtwo]

so many beautiful IRs and SIRs in temporal forces :)

[@nathanfarrugia4778]

I got totally done on my booster box, no SIR or hyper rare and only 3 illustration rares. As someone that only collects SIR and IR was a total wash :( I miss 151

[@pokefangirl23]

This set feels like it was made for me! Gen 5 pokemon and Gen two alt forms of my fave beasts ❤

[@dontread12]

Working on my master set

[@xcyphs]

this has to be my favorite set so far, both for the vibrant artworks and the amount of playable cards